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Can you shoot wildlife on a 4x5 view camera?? Stenopeika 4x5 + Rodenstock 360mm + FP4 - BRING IT! 

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Someone once said you can't shoot wildlife on a 4x5 view camera. So I did.
Well, to be completely honest I did it, but not very well. Cos it's quite hard you see. Alas, what those nay sayers were referring to was the inadequacy of the view camera for shooting wildlife in the wild. If you could bring the wildlife into a studio, or work with them in a controlled setting, that would be easier. Or actually, if you had whole year to take one frame. That would also work.
But shooting wildlife in the wild, in a completely uncontrolled setting, even with 4-5 hours to play with, is pretty tough. More so if you're trying to shoot small animals.
There are two issues. One is really obvious - it's that with a view camera you have to set up the shot, the close the shutter, load the film holder, remove the dark slide, then make the exposure, by which time your subject has probably moved.
The other issues is also, supposedly, really obvious, although it didn't really occur to me. Focal length. My wonderful Stenopeika Air Force 4x5 has a max lens length of 360mm. Which sounds like a lot. But like for like coverage, a 360mm lens on 4x5 is the same as a 120mm lens on 35mm. Which as any of you will know, ain't enough for wildlife.
Aaaaaaanyway, it doesn't work. Have a watch, see me fail, and then tell me how badly I failed in the comments below. Thanks.

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@tedphillips2951
@tedphillips2951 Год назад
Your videos are always fun, different & interesting. I always look forward to them!
@the120ist
@the120ist Год назад
For fun, different and interesting, read "silly, ill-conceived and rarely successful"!!! One day I'll learn. But not today. Glad you're enjoying them, lots more to come!
@bernardkealey6449
@bernardkealey6449 Год назад
I did enjoy this. Great you got the Stenopeika fixed, and had the sort of bonding experience with it that most won’t be insane enough to try 😉 If you had unlimited time and a hide you could probably have some extraordinary experiences, but heck this looks like it was a great day trip that most of us can just dream of. I look forward to your upcoming Bronica adventures.
@the120ist
@the120ist Год назад
Thank you! There is definitely a bonding experience when your camera take heavy damage and you nurse it back to life. I also love the fact that I have replaced what need to be replaced, but the base plate is still visibly damaged. Like a scar that is a little unsightly, but is evidence of the journey you've been on. Me and the Stenopeika are definitely closer now! Unlimited time is the key! I spent maybe 4 hours down there that day, and the best image was the very last one, my last sheet. Give me a few days there, and I think I could come back with a couple of shots that I was really thrilled with. Time! That's all we need, right?
@annp322
@annp322 Месяц назад
Love the giraffe pic. It was worth the effort. 4x5 might not be the ideal format for wildlife photography, but I love doing things that are a bit “out there” because the results are so different. I’m currently mulling doing a sports photography project with either large format, or a manual focus Mamiya 645. Sure, I could do it with $5000 worth of digital equipment and the results would be very competent, but it just wouldn’t be as visually interesting as what I would get with a totally inappropriate film camera.
@the120ist
@the120ist 25 дней назад
There is definitely something appealing about totally inappropriate film cameras! That's kind of why we're here right? I am still not put off the idea of wildlife (or sports for that matter) on the 4x5. Given the chance again I would approach it differently, of course, but I still think good results are totally achievable.
@andrewbartram2478
@andrewbartram2478 10 месяцев назад
I really like the blurred motion ones !
@the120ist
@the120ist 10 месяцев назад
Thanks Andrew! If only that was what i was trying to achieve!
@epicdream
@epicdream Год назад
Well done for at least taking the challenge! I remember, back in the 90s, shooting some action bike racing on 100 iso slide film, handheld with a Mamiya RB67. That was also a little challenging. 😂
@the120ist
@the120ist Год назад
We just love the challenges don't we! I don't know if, in my case, it's arrogance or curiosity that makes me do these things. But I feel like you've got to at least try it before you write it off, right?
@paultaylorphotography9499
@paultaylorphotography9499 Год назад
cracking effort, totally admire your determination in the face of such limitations. looking forward to the ETRS love those cameras.
@the120ist
@the120ist Год назад
Thanks mate! What I really need is some high benefactor to pay me thousands to go off and do these sorts of shoots for days on end. Then I might actually get some good results! I'm sure that benefactor is going to call any day now. Let me just check... yes the phone is on the hook. Aaaaaany minute now.
@paultaylorphotography9499
@paultaylorphotography9499 Год назад
@@the120ist sorry to disappoint ya mate but he said he's calling me first
@danienelphoto
@danienelphoto Год назад
Yes, you can, but why? .... that is a question I keep having to answer for me. BTW - medium format for wildlife is great. Oh, and the offer for a beer when you make it to Cape Town stands!
@the120ist
@the120ist 11 месяцев назад
Why is the big question. I guess I would like to be able to take huge, crystal clear negatives of majestic creatures like elephants... but realistically the complications massively outweigh any resolution benefits! But I needed to learn that for myself, and try it out! The biggest thing I got my head around here was the limited range of focal length on LF. I hadn't really considered it properly before. But I headed out with the longest lens my Stenopeika could handle - 360mm - and was still really wanting for lens length. And when you do the maths, 360mm on LF is equivalent to about 120mm on 35mm. Not nearly long enough to make a decent go of wildlife photography. not in the wild at least. You could do some very pretty zoo portraits i suspect, but where's the fun in that! Still haven't made it to Cape Town, but when i do, I'll let you know, thank you!!
@richardmoore8899
@richardmoore8899 10 месяцев назад
Great video and top marks for trying. I'm just getting into large format and would really like to see if I can manage to get some images of horses. There are some stunning photos of horses out there although I suspect most are taken with MF cameras. Oh and while watching you stalking giraffes I was wondering what your chances were of getting eaten by lions or other big cats ? Can you outrun a puma while holding onto that 360mm ? I'd be tempted to take my Pentax 6x7 as a defensive weapon.
@the120ist
@the120ist 10 месяцев назад
Ha ha! No chance of being eaten by lions where I was, it was a private fenced reserve. I went there because I knew they had giraffes and that they were pretty relaxed around people, from a previous visit. Not the big wide open wilderness, but if you head into unfenced wilderness looking for these things, you could be looking for a long time! That 360mm lens is a weapon in itself! It's a proper heavy lump. I wouldn't like to have that smashed over my head! You should be able to get some great images of horses, and I think you'll have lots of fun trying! A lot of the enjoyment I get out of LF is from trying to work out how the hell I'm going to get the image that I want. For example, in this video where I was trying to get the shots of impala, and knowing that they wouldn't hold still for me, I was trying to position myself in their path, hoping they would pass close to me. You could do the same thing with horses, maybe on a jump or something... position yourself, get your focus and frame set, load the film, take out the dark slide, and then time your shutter release for the perfect moment? Sounds like fun, let me know how you get on!
@Casualfulltime
@Casualfulltime Год назад
Is there a risk of being eaten by a lion? 😅 Great effort! Cool images.
@wojciechneprostipotocki
@wojciechneprostipotocki Год назад
a lion is running towards you, what do you do? save yourself or a large format camera?
@the120ist
@the120ist Год назад
I mean... there's always a risk, right? Luckily for me, no lions in that particular game reserve. A giraffe will still make a good hole in you though, if you stuff your camera too far into its face!!
@the120ist
@the120ist Год назад
I think we all know the answer to that. I will heal (probably)... my beautiful camera will not!
@wojciechneprostipotocki
@wojciechneprostipotocki Год назад
@@the120ist that's why I always have it with me mamiya rbsd. this is the best defense camera. Or to attack😂😂😂
@Kitsaplorax
@Kitsaplorax Год назад
How about using a Speed Graphic in 4x5?
@the120ist
@the120ist Год назад
It would definitely help, but all you'd gain with a Speed Graphic is the focal plane shutter. You'd still be looking at about 360mm max, and unless you had one of those reflex viewers, which I don't have and don't often see, then you've still got the frame-focus-load-expose time delay. But it would definitely be easier, for sure!
@gertbehrmann4877
@gertbehrmann4877 Год назад
@@the120ist with 4x5 shooting a moving target, I go with an slr. Fast focal plane shutter and a telephoto lens. Managed to get a flyby of a plane with that, handheld. The plane being faster than any animal should mean it would work with any wildlife :)
@the120ist
@the120ist Год назад
@@gertbehrmann4877 SLR is definitely the way forward. But how many 4x5 SLR cameras are there? I can only think of one, the name I can’t remember, but it has kind of a funny tall turret. Quite old. Are there others?
@Kitsaplorax
@Kitsaplorax Год назад
@@the120ist It worked well enough for sports journalists to shoot auto races from the bleachers in the 1930's. Zone focus is your friend. Add in a laser rangefinder on the side, and I suspect you could focus on the go so long as you kept it in the viewfinder.
@gertbehrmann4877
@gertbehrmann4877 Год назад
@@the120ist 4x5 SLR’s are not that rare, but certainly old. I have a Graflex and an Adams, both way over a hundred years old. And either you have an awful lot of money, or are mechanically inclined, they usually need a bit of work after a century… And they’re heavy, with a long-ish and fast-ish lens your looking at around 8kg. Possible for handheld, but not for the faint hearted.
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