I totally relate to this! I have experienced how I’ve added memories to my already established memories that I’ve been retelling myself for years! And I’m so grateful to have been awakened to the fact that memory is indeed faulty.
Trauma can shape memory when the brain trying to protect itself with blocking it out. For PTSD sufferers that worst thing is remembering. I wish he would have addressed that as well.
Yes. And not only by blocking things out, but by reshaping beliefs and perception to be able to cope with experiences. My mind has done this, and I'm a different person now than I was before. My code has literally been rewritten as a response to stimuli.
Thank you for being so clear on a complicated topic. I will have to listen to it again and take notes. But for somme people, it is imperative to have a sharp working memory, because, lives will depend on the truth, data, instructions etc. And yes, I agree with you, we all have bias and emotions that might influence our perception. And of course, once we factor age our memory could decline. Let me tell you a story. I made a career in the Canadian Armed Forces, 36 years as a Logistic and HR Officer. I was in a Middle Management Training. The instructor asked for volunteers to be interviewed by a supervisor. I voulunteered as the interviewee. At the end of the exercise, the instructor proceeded to the analysis, collecting comments from the other students. At one point I disagree about a comment on what I apparently said. The majority of the students (including the instructor) 30 people, were adamant that I said and behave in a certain manner. But like you explained, I voice my opposition once. Luckily, one student had recorded the interview and he said he was going to listen to it during the evening and report back the next day. The next morning everyone was impatiently awaiting for the verdict...and I was right:) The interviewer said and behave in the wrong manner, not me. So since then, I do not pretend that I am right all the time. But let's say that sometimes, you have to be confident in your capabilities and develop a stronger awareness when it is important.
I have been keeping a dream diary for over 10 years, and something I have observed is that you can dream of having memories, and these memories are not necessarily 'real,' like the ones you have when you are awake.
Honestly, I don't trust my memory. Just merely thinking about is somehow shifting my how perspective on things. It's kinda hard to diffrentiate what's real and what's not real based on a sequential timeline of events in your life.
I watched a movie once and recalled a scene in the movie in fine detail. I watched the movie again and realized my memory of the scene contained a significant flaw. There was only a short amount of time that passed between the first time I watched the movie and the second. Sometimes I think to myself, "How many other vivid memories do I have that are fundamentally flawed like that?"
We see what we wish to see, we remember our version of incidents. That's why official legal incidents we keep written records. In detailed information in recording 😊
Interesting that a byproduct of this self-awareness (of the fallibility of memory) ought to be humility... but a byproduct of NOT having this self-awareness is often confidence. Those who are skeptical consumers of information will question things - but those who are sure they know what's what probably will not
Terry Funk, a legendary wrestler, was asked if he wanted to see a video of one of his most famous matches. He said, in effect, no because it might not be as good as he remembered it.
If you want practical proof, simply have a family discussion of past events. On some issues, you'd think my sister and I were at different dinners with different parents. I hope we all had a good time.
Yes, what I think or what you think is only a small part but what might be true is the bigger part of something. And I believe GOD loves you very very much...😊
Science communication doesn't get better than this. Wow. If I have the chance to ask a question that Mr. Fenton would respond to, I would ask, "What does this 'being open-minded to autocorrect' mean scientifically? What is the mechanism behind having an open-mindset?" Thank you.
This is an interesting and well communicated video, but the either/or set up leaves a big hole for talking about topics like abuse, trauma, etc. - instances where memory becomes weaponized. IMHO a follow-up to this - which is inclusive of those nuances - would be fantastic, and more practically educational.
Many cultures know that memory is fluid.😴The pandemic exposed many to the fluidity of time & perception in the midst of trauma--in the same moment, time moves at speed of light & goes by achingly slowly.
But....doesn't the recorder have their own perception of what is happening? That would then influence what is written down/recorded. Our perception is our reality so... our perception of the reality we're witnessing is then recorded. Hmmmmm (Just a thought to ponder - not being argumentative, etc.)
Ah yes, this is *the machine doesn't lie* type of energy. A statement that many people would actually accept at face value even though anyone with a basic understanding of life can give 10 examples why the *machine* was faulty. And *written down* is an even sillier example. A written down story has already been through 1 or 2 filters at the very least.
I've had what I was certain I remembered correctly instead proven false so frequently that it no longer even surprises me when reality shifting adjustments to what I thought happened do occur. I could walk outside, see that the sky is orange instead of blue, and if everyone was saying it was always orange I would shrug and move on with my day. I'd be the most boring protagonist ever from this type of scifi movie.
This video is great stuff for gaslighters. A couple of people have tried this trick on me but the things is, I do keep a diary and record all my phone calls by default. I do this because I've been burned one too many times in the past by people who've tried to convince me of exactly this line of thinking. Sorry, but some people do have pretty exact memories which are at least over 95% accurate. Especially if you have something concrete to fall back on for validation or invalidation of your memories, this video just sounds like politically desirable and fashionable nonsense.
History itself, and the way it was recorded is, for the most part, is fiction and creativeness mostly based on lies and guesswork. If there was an encyclopedia of history as it really was, not based un lies and inventions, we would be collectively shocked as to how different it would be from what we have studied.
The only people that generally truly care about this are the ones that would use it against other people to get away with insane acts. But sure, 10-15 years from now anyone who ends up in court is just automatically guilty of whatever arbitrary deed they are accused of by other people. All memories are false anyway so we can say what we want and the only ones that have a memory are people like neuroscientists and judges right? It's like when I worked for this detachment agency that would just change the roster *after* sending out 15 people to a place that didn't require help until 1 week later. Just so they didn't have to pay those 15 people for 3 hours each as is mandated in such a situation. Like all 15 people read their roster wrong. I never forget an appointment the moment I make it even without keeping track of it in my agenda. But somehow I am supposed to believe these theories of mass hysteria and delusion? When it's just a simple case of money being involved? Yes, yes, yes. This is a wonderful world we are heading for like this. I am surely going to believe the professional gaslighters!
Judgements depend on knowledge, and one's knowledge relies on one's memory. So when this scientist isn't sure if he can trust his memory, he should be not so sure about his opinion in this video and his unsureness on memory, right? 😂 So, should we trust this video at all? 😆
Add ourselves to that equation to deepen the paradox. Since we're uncertain that we can trust the video, we have to consider if we even trust ourselves to trust the video to begin with lol
short answer, no, everyone has different expericnes and so everyones mind gets molded differently. if you go pureley off memoery than chances are you have hevay bias or different recollection than someone else does of the same event blah blah blah
I think what is happening that when u remember soemthing which is memory then what u remember is not exactly or accurately happened So say some u r good looking,you may say they said u r beautiful and it my bwsta ss ur own story to it which is ocir some kind of addition some change which is similar episodically but may not be semantically,I mean even I didn't understand but this is what memories are false
¿Este señor que supuestamente sabe tanto no sabe que hace 400 existió un pensador llamado Descartes que ya decía exactamente lo que aquí no para de repetir como si fuera una novedad? La incultura nos gobierna disfrazada de modernidad.
Hes right. Perception is very impressionable and flexible, akin to an opinion. Its hardly as solid as most assume. World would be a better place if everyone understood that.
Yes. I've had arguments with "friends" who would conveniently never remember something they did wrong a few days ago or a week ago but they kept record of every one of my transgressions. Somehow this "friend" would try to convince me that the way I remembered something she said or did to me was inaccurate.
@@0ptimal The only times I ever hear people really argue this is when they just want to gaslight someone so no, we would not be living in a better world. Not sure what you are referencing anyway. Religious people?
Trumps memory is that he won coz he didn’t conceive and gave his speech, so must be true😂. Oy vey. We think too much of our won spices. Can’t even get things straight.
Ah, the classic self refuting pseudo science: if all memory is unreliable, the memory of the person recalling the research proving it, is unreliable. Therefore the research may not exist, meaning memory is not unreliable.
You’re putting words in his mouth. He said that memory may be faulty, not all memory, not definitive. He then lays out why he believes memory (can be) faults. We are basically low level AI that write over our experience in the now, second by second. Big ideas are collected and linked through the emotions accompanying them. It’s all interlinked. Self, family/friends, local government, national government, overall species. No two people are the same. We see what we want to see. “If you are open to listening, if you are open to self correction…”
@@bluestar1234able that's an even worse argument: you can somehow know that his recollection that memory is unreliable must be reliable, because reasons. And no, we are not AIs. That's really stupid. We know for a fact that our brains are not computers and don't work like them.
@@daveblack2602can you remember events that happened exactly a week ago, on a specific day, at a specific time? No. Because our memory is linear, and is overwritten by new memories every single second. That’s why memories are faulty. Mistakes can and often do happen during memory recollection. Why else is first witness memory so scrutinized? You need multiple first hand accounts for a factual story to emerge (or other concrete proof like video/sound footage) because everyone interprets the situation differently due to many factors outside of their control (social/societal, economic, religious, etc).
@@bluestar1234able that's one of weirdest ideas I've ever seen online. No, our memories are not overwritten. If they were they wouldn't exist any more and we wouldn't remember anything. That's just bizarre.
@@daveblack2602let me simplify it for you. Tell me exactly what you did 33 days ago at 2:39pm. If you cannot, since we aren’t computer programs, then there is some version of memory loss that allows big events or overarching themes to be preserved. The human brain doesn’t care what happens every single second of the day. It instead condenses it into bigger/more memorable experiences which it then encodes into long term memory at night during sleep. Any other questions?
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