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Canadian Corvettes Battle U-boat Wolfpacks in the Battle of Atlantic, WW2 - HMCS Sackville 

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Join me as we look at an action packed scene from the Tom Hanks movie, Greyhound, as a Canadian Corvette (HMCS Dodge aka “Dicky”) and American destroyer coordinate to kill a U-boat attempting to sink merchant shipping transporting valuable supplies to the European theater of WW2. Following the scene, we'll take a deeper dive into the last surviving Canadian Corvette, the HCMS Sackville, upon which the Dicky was inspired.
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@Kathy-q7d9h
@Kathy-q7d9h 7 месяцев назад
Father served on the Chiliwak during the war. He was 16. Never said much about it except how cold it was in the north Atlantic until near the end of his life. Then had nightmares about what he had seen. Said one day they found a lifeboat with all the sailors frozen to death. But the worst he said was after a ship was torpedoed the cries of the men in the water, as they were not allowed to stop and pick up survivors as they would be sitting ducks for the uboats. He then was a sailor on a hospital ship during the d day invasion and had flashbacks to that day. Like most of that generation, he buried everything he went through and it never surfaced until his last days. Miss you dad.
@BlackEpyon
@BlackEpyon 6 месяцев назад
I live in the city of Chilliwack. One of the landscaping maintenance contracts I service is actually on the site of the old ASU Chilliwack, which has since been turned into subdivisions after it was decommissioned. Canada doesn't get nearly enough media recognition for the roles we played in WWI and WWII.
@davidmcg762
@davidmcg762 7 месяцев назад
Like some others commenting here, my father served on corvettes during WWII. A 17 year kid from Montreal never spoke much about the experiences, likely due to those times he did painted an ugly picture. What I learned from a shipmate of his, who annually visited our family, he served very gallantly. Not only lucky to survive, but lucky to come home with a "Newfie war-bride", who became the greatest Mom on earth ; ). That you for this!!
@jeanniebgood
@jeanniebgood 6 месяцев назад
My dad, also 17 years-old from Montreal, served on the North Bay and the Bowmanville corvettes during the war. They were based in Newfoundland. He never said much about it either, but he had some photos of the ships covered in ice. When not at sea, the crew served as volunteer firemen and honey wagon drivers.
@garylogan3640
@garylogan3640 7 месяцев назад
My father served in the Battle of the Atlantic, he signed up at age 16. Dicky and Greyhound were the radio callsigns for the ships in the movie. The Sackville WAS the "Dicky", at least in essence. In preparation for production, a team came to Halifax and laser scanned the Sackville from bow to stern, superstructure to waterline from every angle, and multiple photographs were taken. This info was used to create the CGI Corvette "Dicky" for the movie. There is a Sackville close to Halifax, and there is a Sackville in New Brunswick, close to the NS border.
@davepowell3293
@davepowell3293 7 месяцев назад
Lower Sackville, Middle Sackville and upper Sackville are near Halifax
@TheNightlessFall
@TheNightlessFall 7 месяцев назад
Very well, but you're wrong (in half). The Dicky is not totally HMCS Shackville but HMCS Sahwinigan. How can you tell? There's an identification number on the bow of each ship. The Shackville's is K181 and the Dicky's is K136, which corresponds to HMCS Shawinigan. But i think the Dicky is just a mix of both ships. Anyway, i send all my respect to your father.
@garylogan3640
@garylogan3640 7 месяцев назад
The number is the Shawinigan, but the ship that was scanned and is the base of the cgi Corvette in the movie is the Sackville. The Shawinigan was sunk in '44 in the Cabot Strait, torpedoed by U1228, and so was not around to be scanned for this movie. She did complete 3 trips as a cross Atlantic escort before being put in drydock for a refit, and then served out of Bermuda and then back up to Canadian coastal service, where she was sunk while escorting a ferry from Sydney NS to Port Aux Basques Newfoundland. My guess is they used that hull number as a tribute to the ships that were lost.
@TheNightlessFall
@TheNightlessFall 7 месяцев назад
​@@garylogan3640 My friend, that's a very good point. Since the HMCS Sackville still floating, it was easier for the production team to make it.
@jesse33cdn
@jesse33cdn 7 месяцев назад
On behalf of my Country CANADA ...I THANK YOU!...🇨🇦♥️🇬🇧♥️🇺🇸
@Jeremynicholson
@Jeremynicholson 7 месяцев назад
Should look into “HMCS Haida” it’s a museum ship now but in its prime served ww2 in the battle of the Atlantic taking down more enemy ships then any Canadian warship in history, later served in the Korean War and then became the first warship sent on a peacekeeping mission during the suez crisis.
@sid7088
@sid7088 7 месяцев назад
Tribal class destroyer also in the D-day invasion, I toured it and was amazed at how small it seemed, especially for the open ocean.
@neilcameron1716
@neilcameron1716 7 месяцев назад
My father served on the hmcs Haida at the end of ww2
@philpaine3068
@philpaine3068 7 месяцев назад
The author Nicholas Monsarrat wrote a novel in 1951 called "The Cruel Sea." It reflected the authors' own experience closely, and was an extremely accurate rendering of a corvette at war. It had more of a British than a Canadian emphasis, but, nevertheless it was taught in Canadian high school literature classes for many years. The book was filmed in 1953 starring Jack Hawkins and a very young Denholm Elliott. The film feels even more "Britified," but it's extremely well done, a minor film classic. I'm sure that "Greyhound" owes a lot to it.
@davidlove895
@davidlove895 7 месяцев назад
Decades ago I taught a seminar on Ethics in Warfare at the Canadian Naval Officer Training Centre. I started every one of them with the scene from "The Cruel Sea" where Jack Hawkins' character had to attack a U-boat (unknowingly reported to him by his ASDIC team) that was beneath a large group of floating survivors from a recently torpedoed merchant ship. They thought he was coming to save them... until the depth charges were launched. I then broke the large group of young faces into small working groups and gave them 30 minutes to answer the question: "What would you do, and why?"
@philpaine3068
@philpaine3068 7 месяцев назад
@@davidlove895In 1983, there was an award-winning documentary series produced by the CBC called "War: A Commentary by Gwynne Dyer" hosted by Dyer, a journalist well-known at the time, who had considerable military experience. It was a very serious discussion of many aspects of the phenomenon of war, and was a fairly big budget project. For example, the Pentagon and various national armies gave him access to a lot of stuff to work into the series. Dyer began the series, if I remember rightly, by recounting his youthful experience of watching and reading "The Cruel Sea" and worked a lot of references to it into the series. That sort of matches your use of the film in training.
@davidlove895
@davidlove895 7 месяцев назад
@ine3068 It was my pleasure to be mentored by Dr. Reginald H. Roy, CDII, PhD, FRHistS as an undergrad at UVic. He once introduced me to Gwynne Dyer at a function and, of course, I've read most of his books - in particular, "War (1985)" comes to mind, as it was the follow-on to his CBC special you mentioned. I've little doubt that construction of my lesson plan for the NOTC Ethics in Warfare seminar was influenced by him and others I was introduced to by Dr. Roy via his 'mandatory reading lists' - where my reverence for "The Cruel Sea" and other nautical classics grew as an escape from all the occasionally dry non-fiction!
@philpaine3068
@philpaine3068 7 месяцев назад
@@davidlove895 I'm sure you must have found your way to the Patrick O'Brian novels.
@davidlove895
@davidlove895 7 месяцев назад
@ine3068Absolutely, and James B. Lamb, "The Corvette Navy", and many, many others! Forgot to mention Douglas Reeman - toss-up between "HMS Saracen" and "Killing Ground"...
@dwh58
@dwh58 7 месяцев назад
My dad from landlocked Alberta served on the H M C S Tillsonburg K 496 . He had many convoys to Ireland, Scotland , Murmansk (Russia ) and Bermuda. A great Canadian site for anything navy is - " For Posterity`s Sake ". 🇨🇦 Thanks for this video.
@peterfrost6507
@peterfrost6507 7 месяцев назад
John, you will enjoy seeing Sackville first hand. My dad was a 1st Lieutenant on HMCS Fennel. I can't believe how matter of fact he was about his experiences on convoy duty. All he complained about was the food and generally poor accommodations. He never talked about the dangers they underwent while at sea. "We were needed. We went to sea." That summed it up in his mind and in those he served with.
@wayneleeke8724
@wayneleeke8724 7 месяцев назад
My dad had the same attitude. It was a job that needed to be done and they just did it
@PegCityBacon
@PegCityBacon 7 месяцев назад
Great video and reaction! Proud to be a Canadian! 🇨🇦
@vlcccapt
@vlcccapt 7 месяцев назад
Hollywood made a movie afeaturing corvettes in 1943, it was called "Corvette K-225" and starred Randolph Scott. The Good Shepherd by C. S. Forester was the book "Grayhound" was based on.
@gryph01
@gryph01 5 месяцев назад
K-225 was HMCS Kitchener.
@higgybee6509
@higgybee6509 6 месяцев назад
My Dad enlisted in the Corvette Navy from 1939 until the end of the war. He served on the escort armed yacht HMCS Renard and frigate HMCS Royal Mount and one other ship I can't recall. I have some of his photos which show the ship covered in thick ice from one of the crossings. He was proud he served in the Navy and we traveled to the Maritimes every few years so he could attend Naval Reunions and he and local sailors founded a Navy Veterans club where we live. Anne
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 6 месяцев назад
Hi Anne, Thanks for sharing you’re dad’s story.
@chadmagee1792
@chadmagee1792 7 месяцев назад
John this made me think of the US709 A Sub chaser, which went aground off the coast of Louisbourg NS, the US sailors were rescued by local fishermen who went out in their fishing dorys in the middle of a blizzard. Many years ago working as an interpretor at the Fortress of Louisbourg national historic site. ( which has many ties to New England, especially the battle in 1745), i had the privilege of meeting one of the survivors and was looking for some of the men who helped in the rescue.. i was honored to set him up with the few who i knew where still living.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
What a great story. Thanks for letting me know. I’d love to look into that further.
@chadmagee1792
@chadmagee1792 7 месяцев назад
@johnf-americanreacts1287 correction.. it was an American ship, but the name was the SC709
@floyd2222
@floyd2222 7 месяцев назад
@@johnf-americanreacts1287 here is a link I found..... louisbourgstories.blogspot.com/2010/03/local-heroes-daring-rescue-of-709.html
@daviddevitt2248
@daviddevitt2248 3 месяца назад
John, I love your reactions to these videos. I am an American citizen that moved to Canada as a 7 year old. I joined the Royal Canadian Sea Cadets when I was 12. The sea cadet corps was named after HMCS Chebogue - a river class frigate during WW2. Thre frigate was named after the Chebogue river in Yarmouth county , Nova Scotia. I love your presentations sir. Keep it up as much as you can! I will never give up my American citizenship, but I love Canada so much.....
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 3 месяца назад
Hey David. I guess I can call you my Canadian cousin and my American brother. Thanks so much for sharing your experiences. I remember some of my high school friends that were bound for the navy and the marines joining the sea cadets. I wonder if it’s basically the same thing here as there. Anyway, peace my friend.
@luckyskittles8976
@luckyskittles8976 7 месяцев назад
Thourghly enjoyed this, thank you. I believe she was named after Sackville ,N.B.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
I suppose that would make sense since she was built in N.B.
@jenniferbryan5775
@jenniferbryan5775 7 месяцев назад
If you come to the eastern shores of Canada, please go to Newfoundland (and not just St. Johns). Also, I would suggest looking into WW1 and the story of the Blue Puttees. So sad but so beautiful the way NF sacrificed a generation of young men for Canada and Britain.
@camseymour8680
@camseymour8680 4 месяца назад
Thank you Sir, I think you teach more about Canadian history than anyone in Canada does now, my Dad was RCNVR from 43 to 45 and served in Corvettes and the River class Frigate Strathadam, 17 yrs old and home before his 20th birthday. Love your videos!
@wayneleeke8724
@wayneleeke8724 7 месяцев назад
I lived in Sackville about twenty klicks outside of Halifax for years and there is also a Sackville New Brunswick, hence the name. Although none of my relatives served on a Corvette, my uncle served on several warships during the war but primarily on the HMCS Ingonish (minesweeper) that saw service patrolling British Columbia's west coast after the attack on Pearl Harbour, then fought in the Battle of the Atlantic on convoy duty, then down off Jamaica before returning to the British Navy in 1945. There it was sold for scrap. My dad age 13 was one of the children (C.O.R.B) that were evacuated from Britain during the Blitz to Canada during the Battle of the Atlantic in convoy ZA on 10/8/40 with 187 boys and 166 girls aboard the HMS Oronsay. Other children were sent to the United States, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand. Three years later after lying about his age he donned the uniform of The Seaforth Highlanders to go to war. When Germany capitulated the call came out for volunteers to fight the Japanese and he transferred to the 1st Canadian Parachute Battalion and trained with the American Forces before the VJ Day was announced ending WW2.
@lauriea2971
@lauriea2971 7 месяцев назад
Sackville is in Nova Scotia not in New Brunswick. I’m from the east coast
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for this great family history and the history of distinguished service of the Ingonish. The history and individual stories of the British children who were sent to the countryside in the Uk and around the globe is endlessly fascinating to me. We here in North America were so lucky to have been spared the horrors of that war at home. Of course there was Pearl Harbor, some acts of sabotage and the treatment of Japanese internees in both our countries. Still, for the most part we had a pretty big moat protecting us.
@Nosaj1978
@Nosaj1978 7 месяцев назад
@@lauriea2971there is a Sackville New Brunswick as well. Home to Mount Allison University. In the case of HMCS Sackville it was named after the NB Town.
@wayneleeke8724
@wayneleeke8724 7 месяцев назад
true true@@johnf-americanreacts1287
@cubangal1
@cubangal1 7 месяцев назад
this amount of bravery can never be forgotten......thank you and yes I will be watching Greyhound
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Hi, are you of Cuban descent or from Cuba originally? My wife’s father and his family came over as asylum seekers after the revolution.
@desertdinghy9833
@desertdinghy9833 Месяц назад
Nicholas Monserrat, the great Canadian author, served on a Flower Class corvette in WW2. His novel "The Cruel Sea" is a must read. My copy is old and yellowed now, because I have re-read it several times over the years. You have created an excellent video about the HMCS Sackville, nicely done.
@stephenpublicover8818
@stephenpublicover8818 7 месяцев назад
Hey John, my late father was a merchant sailor during WW2, he sailed from Halifax, N.S. to Gander, NFLD in av-gas tankers! did 20-plus trips,(considered going overseas! in those days) NFLD was still British territory. great video!
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
People too often forget the bravery and sacrifices of the merchant sailors in the battle of the Atlantic. Much respect to your dad.
@stephenpublicover8818
@stephenpublicover8818 7 месяцев назад
@@johnf-americanreacts1287 Hey John I served in the Canadian Army Reserve Artillery (first field Halifax-Dartmouth)
@ToddSauve
@ToddSauve 7 месяцев назад
Actually, Newfoundland was a Dominion of the British Empire during WW2, just like Canada, Australia, South Africa and New Zealand!
@shawnwarren7131
@shawnwarren7131 7 месяцев назад
I love your videos! You will certainly love seeing the HMCS Sackville in person. I would also highly recommend the Museum of the Atlantic (which I believe the Sackville is docked at anyway) while in Halifax as well as Citadel Hill. I'm from Moncton, New Brunswick a little over 2 hours away, there is definitely no shortage of fun things to do while here. I hope you enjoy your trip!
@TheYukonnahanni
@TheYukonnahanni 6 месяцев назад
Thank-you,Respect & heart felt Honour given to you for this Vid.~~ Part of my Families History.. All the Very Best to You & Yours
@JohnHill-qo3hb
@JohnHill-qo3hb 7 месяцев назад
I have had the privilege of visiting both HMCS Haida in Hamilton ON and HMCS Sackville in Halifax NS. Conditions those young men lived and fought in is a real eye opener. HMCS Haida has the record for the most North Korean steam engines destroyed from sea during the Korean War.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Oh so she served in both WW2 and Korea. I’ll definitely have to look at the Haida’s story. Thanks. 😊
@vlcccapt
@vlcccapt 7 месяцев назад
I had an uncle that served on a Canadian destroyer and was involved in the convoys to Murmansk. His best friend took home movies of the trips, including attacks on their convoys. The films were confiscated by the navy and he never saw them again. My uncle said he saw many terrible things but would give no details.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Your uncle was of a special generation indeed. Too bad his films got confiscated but I guess I understand why.
@AllenDarling-d7n
@AllenDarling-d7n 6 месяцев назад
Another example of USN and RCN co-ordinated Naval action was on a Trinidad to New York tanker convoy. The Canadian corvettes Oakville and Snowberry, working with the USS Lee, encountered a U boat that was torpedoing tankers off the US. During the action the Oakville rammed the U boat and laid along side. The German crew went to man their deck guns and since Oakville's wouldn't depress far enough, the Canadian sailors pelted the German crew with empty coke bottles that were stored under the aft Pom Pom Bandstand. The German crew went below to scuttle their boat and Oakville sent a Boarding Party of two armed with pistols to secure their surrender. While the sub was sinking, Sub Lt Hal Lawrence went below to try to capture the German code books but had to leave before finding them. Lawrence was awarded the DSC for his action.
@camseymour8680
@camseymour8680 4 месяца назад
HMCS Oakville story is defiinately worthy of a movie, I think in the movie Greyhound when they can't get the guns depressed enough is a nod to the Oakville battle, Lawrence's book is amazing! I love that and have read it at least 10 times or more, the best is the guys wingin the coke bottles stored by the funnel at the Germans when they could not get the guns depressd enough as the u boat was right alongside and Lawrence losing his clothes as he was thrown to the deck of the u boat and shooting the Germans as they came at him! My Dad served on the Corvette Edmunston and the Frigate Strathadam from 43 to 45, he was 17 and was home before his 20th birthday, Nothing was better as a kid in the 60's right up till my Dad passed was to get him talking about his Navy time, no matter how bad it was I think he truly loved it! all I had to do was put on a Naval movie like The Cruel Sea and he would slowly start telling me everything, all I could do was shut up and listen! I sure as hell miss that!
@AllenDarling-d7n
@AllenDarling-d7n 4 месяца назад
@@camseymour8680 I had a fiend who served on Snowberry in Nov'43 when she ;the British Frigate Neen and the Corvettes Calgary and Edmonston caught and sank a u boat off Cape Finnestere . Perhaps your dad was in that battle as well. There is a book on Canadian frigates of WW2 and there is a photo of part of the Strathadam's crew in a mess deck playing cards.
@camseymour8680
@camseymour8680 3 месяца назад
@@AllenDarling-d7n yes, thanks, I have that book also!
@davidlove895
@davidlove895 7 месяцев назад
The naval technical advisor for "Greyhound" was a retired Canadian Naval Officer, Gordon Laco (as am I). The tactics and shiphandling (though time-compressed) are the most accurate I've ever seen depicted. The Corvette 'Dickey' carried the hull number K136. While HMCS Sackville (K181) was the digital model, they used K136 on the hull in deference to HMCS Shawiningan, torpedoed by U-1228 and lost with all hands on November 25th 1944. The model for the RN destroyer F80 was another Canadian museum ship, one of our WWII Tribal-class destroyers, HMCS Haida (G63). The real Convoy HX-25 actually departed Halifax in March 1940 and was led by HMCS St. Laurent (H83), a former Royal Navy C-class destroyer sold to Canada in 1937. The USN was not yet in the war. While escorting Convoy SC-110 in December 1942, St. Laurent sank U-356. The fictional USS Keeling (DE548) depicted in the movie was a nice digital model of an American Fletcher-class ship. However, the first one commissioned into the USN wasn't until June 1942 and of the 175 built, all 25 lost or damaged beyond repair occurred fighting the Japanese in the Pacific. Nonetheless, this was an excellent depiction of novelist C.S. Forester's, "The Good Shepard".
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
David, first, thanks for your service. Second, thanks for this great and detailed info. I’m very grateful to all of you who take the time to help me learn these great kernels of history.
@davidlove895
@davidlove895 7 месяцев назад
Thank you so very much for showing this. ASW (Anti-submarine Warfare), at a much later time, was my specialty in the RCN. Tom Hanks and Gary Goetzman did a masterful job bringing this story to light and I hope they're rewarded for the historical realism they obviously worked very hard to achieve. I'm certain this brought many an old salt to a 'Charlie Brown Moment': "THAT'S IT!!!"
@PaulGreening
@PaulGreening 7 месяцев назад
former navy guy live in halifax and have been on sackville several times great tour if u get the chance to come to canada well worth the money
@oib0y
@oib0y 7 месяцев назад
Admittedly I haven't watched all your videos but I always appreciate your coverage of Canadian topics/content! So thank you for this & all you do! -From one of your neighbours to the north. ❤
@K1ddkanuck
@K1ddkanuck 7 месяцев назад
I went aboard HMCS Sackville as a kid, when I was in the Royal Canadian Sea Cadet Corps. She really is a beauty. It's good to see her legacy still going strong nearly 25 years later.
@Mac3622
@Mac3622 7 месяцев назад
HMCS Sackville was named after Sackville, New Brunswick, a small university town just inside the provincial border with Nova Scotia
@ryanwilson_canada
@ryanwilson_canada 7 месяцев назад
I've actually done a tour of the Sackville, as Halifax is only about 2.5 hours drive from where I live. Pretty cool experience. The entire Halifax harbour honestly is awesome. Especially duing the tall ships festival. If you vist ever, I recommend checking it all out. Hope everyone is staying safe and taking care. Sackville is in New Brunswick, also Nova Scotia, the one in NB is about 20 mins on the highway from the NS border, the university of Mount Allison is located there. Nice small town if you like quiet living.
@DouglasCroft-w9l
@DouglasCroft-w9l 7 месяцев назад
Thank you John for another great video about Canada. I have followed you for about 7 years and have watched almost all of your vids. keep up the good work and enjoy!!
@Alan-pv2bi
@Alan-pv2bi 5 месяцев назад
The community of Sackville is only 20 kilometers from Halifax. HMCS Sackville does not always sit at a berth accessible to civilians, she winters at CFB Cape Scott. The 2 berths are physically very close but accessibility is restricted while she is on base.
@shawnbrennan2583
@shawnbrennan2583 6 месяцев назад
"Dicky" and "Greyhound " are the ship's callsigns as apposed the the actual ship names that were never ever broadcast on an open radio channel, nor by signal light.
@Sharon-bo2se
@Sharon-bo2se 7 месяцев назад
Had friends in the RCN on escort duty in the North Atlantic, including the run to Murmansk(the Rusduans did not let the crews come off the ships) there. Tough ships, tough crews. These vessels had a tendency to ship a lot of water in heavy seas, did not make a pleasant situation. Randolph Scott made a movie Corvette K-225 during the war. They used a real corvette that was listed as on a long refit, number K-225. They also went out on escort. Very realistic presentation and under rated. Depending on cargo, the merchant ship crews prepared for bed differently. Regular cargos = as usual in case of abandoning ship. Cargoes like iron = clothes on, boots ready, doors open as sinking would be fast. Explosives = close the doors, dress in night stuff because if ship blown up there would be no chance. Was told this by veterans and read it too.
@Dimcle
@Dimcle 7 месяцев назад
Great video, John. Thank you.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Thank you Diane. I’m glad you enjoyed it.
@billfarley9167
@billfarley9167 7 месяцев назад
Canada's navy started convoy duty and UBoat warfare starting September 10th, 1939. Didn't see the Americans in the North Atlantic until the Spring of 1942, two years later. However, the USA assisted greatly through the lend lease program.
@joerichards2658
@joerichards2658 7 месяцев назад
Living in Halifax, I've been on the Sackville quite a few times. She's a tough little ship. Ugly, cramped, and built to kill subs. Beautiful in her own way, even eighty years later. The Sackville was photographed extensively and digitized, to be used as the CGI model for the Dicky.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Oh wow. It’s great they had a living example of a Corvette of the time. They did a great job at recreating her.
@joerichards2658
@joerichards2658 7 месяцев назад
Several former crew had asked to be buried at sea, having their ashes strewn from the Sackville. Many times, she has been towed out of the harbour by a Navy tug to perform this last duty for her crewmates. @@johnf-americanreacts1287
@Caperhere
@Caperhere 2 месяца назад
An interesting piece of history on this topic is the story of three American ships ( USS Truxtun, USS Wilkes, and USS Pollux) who were manoeuvring under radio silence, heading for the American Army and Navy base on the Burin Peninsula in Newfoundland. They ran aground against a rocky cliff. The Newfoundland people took them in, saving the crews. The Americans built a hospital there out of gratitude.
@Zak6959
@Zak6959 7 месяцев назад
Thank you For the video. 31:27 Sackville Nova Scotia is 19 km (12 miles) north of Halifax.
@Dwergarphalanx
@Dwergarphalanx 6 месяцев назад
I believe my Grandfather served aboard one of these ships. The HMSC Napanee. I'd have to check with my mom though to be certain.
@dragon-shepherd
@dragon-shepherd 7 месяцев назад
My Grandfather and one of my Uncles served on the corvettes. They never told 'war stories' when I was little. Now, looking back as an adult, I know why.
@margaretjames6494
@margaretjames6494 7 месяцев назад
My father was an engine room artificer on the HMCS Barrie towards the end of the war (lied about his age) and so missed the worst of the Battle of the Atlantic. They never saw 'action' but did deploy depth charges and, one time, picked up survivors. Apparently, a detail of the rescue was mis-reported and made it's way into several books...there are several books in our local library where my dad's handwriting corrects the record. :) They stopped in New York a few times and Dad said it was great because "the Americans always paid!" haha Great commentary and choice of subject matter again!
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Great to hear about your dad.
@lornemackinnon6694
@lornemackinnon6694 7 месяцев назад
thank you , one of the real unknown stories. of great hero's. i remember when i hear of movie makers were in Halifax ns. they took as i understand a lot of pictures of HMCS Sackville
@aidenisbill5697
@aidenisbill5697 7 месяцев назад
I don't comment a lot but as a history fan and Maritimer I wanted to say I loved this video. Sackville is a town in New Brunswick. Having visited this ship I wanted say it is definitely worth it, such cool history! Learn a lot of things that I didn't know about the ship, like it being converted into a research vessel, as a biologist this was a extra bit of history that I didn't know that is so fascinating to me! Been a fan for a while keep up the great videos!
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Thanks for the info and I’m very glad you liked it.
@jonmce1
@jonmce1 7 месяцев назад
Actually the US provided escorts before it was in the war. Oddly when the US came into the war many of the escorts were withdrawn by King either to support the Pacific war or to escort expected troop ships leaving only the US coast Guard vessels. King was no fan of the British and had limited belief in convoys. Ultimately the Canadian Navy had to extend it escorts down as far as New York and the British had to supply 35 anti sub trwlers and corvettes down to escort ships along the American coast. Because so many tankers were being lost along the coast of the US the Canadian and British navy had to establish their own convoys of tankers outside the American sealanes. Later that was resolved with the massive production from the US. There was a standing joke about corvettes that they would roll in wet grass. There was a movie about the corvettes made during the war pushed by Randolf Scott called Corvette K225. Another really great movie about corvettes is The Cruel Sea.
@randyhale4181
@randyhale4181 7 месяцев назад
Thank You from a patriotic 🇨🇦
@timtabor6893
@timtabor6893 7 месяцев назад
You will love Nova Scotia ! Halifax is a terrific modern city with lots of history The Maritime museum of the Atlantic is on the waterfront in Halifax Titanic exhibits and tons more The rest of the province is just as spectacular But I am biased 😊
@fumblerooskie
@fumblerooskie 7 месяцев назад
"Give 'em hell, Dicky!" 11:04 😃
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Love it.
@gryph01
@gryph01 5 месяцев назад
The Flower Class Corvette was based on a Whaler. They were not built to Admiralty standards, which allowed other ship yards to build them.
@peterk3227
@peterk3227 6 месяцев назад
The size of the boat is not the factor for how many men on board, its about redundancy and attrition. I worked on a tanker and was a deck hand , one of my duties was to layout and man the spring line which is the first line out when birthing. We pulled into a naval base and as we were docking I noticed there were 7 or 8 men on the deck of a frigate manning one line that was smaller gauge than the line I was manning. I thought about it a lot and realized why and it is disturbing. The battles in WWII were pure carnage . I believe we had 4 aircraft carriers by the end of the war, not bad for a tiny country.
@DavidQuaile
@DavidQuaile 7 месяцев назад
Had a chance to go aboard the Sackville a few years back - very impressive! When you are in Halifax see if you can take in a match of the Halifax Wanderers FC.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Hi David. Yes, you’ve piqued my interest indeed with the Wanderers. I didn’t know Canada had a separate soccer league beyond its teams in the MLS. I’d love to take in a game. Thank you. 😊
@DavidQuaile
@DavidQuaile 7 месяцев назад
@@johnf-americanreacts1287 Yep, (CPL) Canadian Premiere League, starting it's sixth season in April. Halifax has some of the best fans in the league - almost as good as our Atlético Ottawa fans! ;)
@fumblerooskie
@fumblerooskie 7 месяцев назад
Greyhound isn't a bad movie, and it's one of the rare examples of Hollywood actually giving the RCN some credit for even being in the war, nevermind that the entire North Atlantic theatre was commanded by a Canadian. As for Tom "Hard Over" Hanks (improbably playing a commander 25 years younger), I can't remember any other movie where "hard over" was barked even once, let alone 5 or 6 times. Still, I enjoyed it. I got a bit of a thrill to see that maple leaf in battle.
@camseymour8680
@camseymour8680 7 месяцев назад
the maple leaf was on the funnel on Canadian warships he is not referring to the flag
@fumblerooskie
@fumblerooskie 7 месяцев назад
@@camseymour8680 Exactly. The Red or White Ensign or Naval Jack was never shown.
@MrMontm
@MrMontm 2 месяца назад
@@sommebuddy in the Atlantic it was in the smoke stack
@danhepburn5120
@danhepburn5120 7 месяцев назад
Thank you John
@michaeljamesstewart1000
@michaeljamesstewart1000 7 месяцев назад
Throughout the Royal Canadian Navy, until 1972, sailors of age were each allowed a daily rum ration. Chimo
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Old traditions die hard
@michaeljamesstewart1000
@michaeljamesstewart1000 7 месяцев назад
Thank you for paying respect to the Canadian men and women who sacrificed so much to keep the supply routes open. No one should ever underestimate Canadian resolve. Chimo@@johnf-americanreacts1287
@Someloke8895
@Someloke8895 18 дней назад
Basically, someone whispered "It's war" to the Canadians and it escalated from there.
@karlhaug5001
@karlhaug5001 7 месяцев назад
Thank you kindly
@markpro8039
@markpro8039 7 месяцев назад
u boats where spotted in saint john NB harbour off the bay of Fundy at that time my home town my dad was a navy vet lot of great ships where built here including the fast sailing ship in the world at that time the marco polo also the current frigates
@Scrabbledat
@Scrabbledat 7 месяцев назад
I swear I’ve been on this ship lol it’s in our harbour here in Halifax. Part of the museum now! Have you heard of the Halifax explosion?
@jangriffiths8013
@jangriffiths8013 5 месяцев назад
If you do ever get to Halifax, try to visit the Marine Memorial in Point Pleasant Park. Among many others, my uncle's name is listed there (1942, Guilfoyle, T.)
@nickgooderham2389
@nickgooderham2389 7 месяцев назад
A common tactic for corvettes and sometimes destroyers was to ram surfaced u-boats. Many of the corvettes were built in yards on the Great Lakes from Kingston to Thunder Bay. The ships were small enough to make it through the canal past Montreal and out to sea. Canada also built frigates and destroyers including the tribal class destroyer which was more akin to small cruiser.
@atomant451
@atomant451 7 месяцев назад
As an arm chair Historian, I have my doubts about the US relegating the Fletcher class Destroyer to Convoy duty only because it was the most advanced US Destroyer of its time and served mostly in the Pacific. What the US sent for Convoy duty was mostly outdated Frigates and Destroyers, at the presumption of the War the US didn't even want their Cargo ships in Convoys until they suffered great losses and only then did they acquiesce to the idea of Convoys and give over Command to the Canadians.
@woobyca7709
@woobyca7709 5 месяцев назад
Thank you for this
@Ottawajames
@Ottawajames 7 месяцев назад
Oh hey John. Just thought I'd let you know that Come from Away is having another run this August in Ottawa at the NAC. 2 weeks only.
@petergarayt9634
@petergarayt9634 7 месяцев назад
If you're interested, there is a new doc on the Lancaster. My dad flew one.
@petergarayt9634
@petergarayt9634 7 месяцев назад
It's on Netflix
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
I’m very much am interested in learning more about the Lancaster and the Halifax bombers, especially now since I’m in the middle of the Apple TV show about the B-17 fortresses, Masters of the Air. Thanks for the tip. 😊
@jerkyd499
@jerkyd499 7 месяцев назад
Thank you ❤️👊
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
👊
@sirlarry7229
@sirlarry7229 7 месяцев назад
I am a Canadian and have learned much from your channel, You find the best clips. Have you ever heard of the folk singer Stompin Tom? See if you can find a song called Wop May by him. There is a display about him in The aviation museum in Edmonton.
@ToddSauve
@ToddSauve 7 месяцев назад
Wop May was the fellow the Red Baron was trying to shoot down when he himself was shot down in WW1. Sorry Snoopy! 😉
@harveyostrander7426
@harveyostrander7426 7 месяцев назад
The movie is based on the C.S. Forester book 'The Good Shepard' Dicky is the radio call sign, I can't remember the original call sign for the destroyer but it was not Greyhound. Destroyers are know as the greyhounds of the seas.
@Nosaj1978
@Nosaj1978 7 месяцев назад
As a kid I visited the Saint John shipyard that was building our current Frigates. It was also at this time that the Merchant Marines were in court fighting to be recognized as Veterans. I do not believe they were able to receive pensions nor were they able to access supports from Veterans Affairs.
@ToddSauve
@ToddSauve 7 месяцев назад
I recall the court battles being recounted on TV. Many navy vets were not happy to see the merchant mariners getting pensions because they received higher wages than the navy men during the war. They figured both groups took their chances during the war but the merchant marine were better paid so they didn't deserve a federal pension for it.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Interesting. I suppose the pay difference is a point but, personally, I’d err on the side of giving these men their pensions. Here in the US, there was recently difficulty in getting a bill passed through Congress to provide health benefits for veterans who were exposed to burn pits in Afghanistan and Iraq and are now sick. The rationale of those that opposed it was that there was no medical proof that the illness was caused by the exposure. Thankfully it ended up passing but I was so annoyed that it was even a debate.
@ToddSauve
@ToddSauve 7 месяцев назад
@@johnf-americanreacts1287 I was too young at the time to understand the feelings of both parties. I have since come to not trust government. Not that they are always wrong but their motives are generally ugly. As in bureaucrats climbing the ladder by denying benefits to the worthy and the needy both. That comes from personal experience with all levels of government. Beyond that I can see the positions of both the vets and the merchant mariners. It is very hard to face your twilight years with insufficient resources and oftentimes people of that generation were hard in their opinions of those who had little. My dad was born in 1922 and was not able to get into the services due to back problems, but he was not a generous soul in his assessment of those who had not succeeded in life. I suppose if someone had been lazy then they were stuck with their reward at the end. But being a Christian myself I believe that those who are generous will be blessed when they are judged. So as you said, better to err on the side of giving.
@NatoBro
@NatoBro 7 месяцев назад
HMCS Sackville was named after Sackville, NB according to the ship's website.
@kirkharris4988
@kirkharris4988 7 месяцев назад
Let us know when you’re coming to Halifax 😊 if you’d like a tour of the harbour, I’d be pleased to offer you a sail on my old Catalina 30 . Cheers
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Wow, Kirk. That’s such a generous offer. I’m determined to make it happen this spring. I’ll let you know. I’d love to meet up.
@sid7088
@sid7088 7 месяцев назад
That was great to see. 👍👍
@thebeagles2025
@thebeagles2025 7 месяцев назад
Dickie was not a real ship but they did a good job with her. If I'm not mistaken, the last Canadian Corvette, HMCS Sackville is at the Halifax Harbour now. The producers of Greyhound came to Nova Scotia and took thousands of photos of Sackville and used them to render the digital Dickie. It was nice to see Tom Hanks get it right after being unfair to the Canadians in Saving Private Ryan.
@ToddSauve
@ToddSauve 7 месяцев назад
How did Tom Hanks be unfair to Canadians in Saving Private Ryan?
@MrMontm
@MrMontm 7 месяцев назад
great video, British corvettes were named for flowers \and Canadian corvettes were named for Canadian cities and towns
@TheNightlessFall
@TheNightlessFall 7 месяцев назад
The Dicky is not HMCS Shackville but HMCS Sahwinigan. How can you tell? There's an identification number on the bow of each ship. The Shackville's is K181 and the Dicky's is K136, which corresponds to HMCS Shawinigan but this is just a movie.. the HMCS Dodge could be just a mix of both ships.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Good point. Either way, they captured an era specific Corvette very well.
@wombatwilly1002
@wombatwilly1002 7 месяцев назад
We go from the third or fourth largest navy in 45 to today's three inner tubes,two rainbow rowboats,and tampons in men's washrooms..lol. Thanks Justin.
@gryph01
@gryph01 5 месяцев назад
You can thank every PM from PET to today for that.
@scottanderson2768
@scottanderson2768 5 месяцев назад
My father was a stoker on a corvette during WW 2
@ronzinn3336
@ronzinn3336 5 месяцев назад
Don't think early Corvettes had a main gun, so sailors were known to acquire 3.7 in ? Anti Tank guns and mount them.
@tysoncomfort4244
@tysoncomfort4244 7 месяцев назад
Wish canada would get are buts in gear and start putting effort into makeing are military good agian
@jerkyd499
@jerkyd499 7 месяцев назад
There’s a town with same name from east to west here in Canada, here in Ontario as well
@bruce8321
@bruce8321 7 месяцев назад
Sackville is a small town in South Eastern N.B.
@warrengee-f9l
@warrengee-f9l 5 месяцев назад
LOL ... as Im enjoying a Guinness ... we had the 2nd largest navy in the world at the end of the war .... mostly Corvettes & Destroyers for convoy duty thats how we still have a flying Lancaster in Hamilton because it was active Coast Guard till ? 1970 ish
@frankwood-sn5pu
@frankwood-sn5pu 22 дня назад
when will we learn people are all the same it dose not matter where they live we must learn to stop killing each other and live in peace so are young men don't have to go to war
@maryannerudy1663
@maryannerudy1663 7 месяцев назад
If you can go to the tattoo with your family great event great experience.
@PaulGreening
@PaulGreening 7 месяцев назад
sackville is in newbrunswick but lower sackville which we call sackville is a comunity just outside of halifax nova scotia canada
@bradleyfitkin4141
@bradleyfitkin4141 7 месяцев назад
By the end of ww2 Canada had the third largest navy.
@arniewilliamson1767
@arniewilliamson1767 7 месяцев назад
The advantage of the corvette is they could be built quickly
@gryph01
@gryph01 5 месяцев назад
And were small enough to get through the St. Lawrence Segway locks. That allowed ship yards on the Great Lakes to build them.
@allanross611
@allanross611 6 месяцев назад
Thanks for all your videos. Amazing. I would be interested in your reaction to this one. INFANTRY SOLDIER - CANADIAN ARMED FORCES. Posted by Kun Fang . It is just over 4 minutes, but very informative and interesting IMO
@davidmalcolm2707
@davidmalcolm2707 7 месяцев назад
I believe that corvettes were more of a poor man’s navy choice and that may well have been the reason your navy chose not to use them. From what I understand they were not really made for operation in open seas and were hell for their crews. Btw, if this hasn’t already been answered, Sacksville is in Ontario.
@dashdece
@dashdece 7 месяцев назад
my bad got the wrong one sorry all i was thinking sackville
@stephenwise734
@stephenwise734 7 месяцев назад
I believe Canada had the 3rd largest navy at the end of the 2nd world war?
@jerkyd499
@jerkyd499 7 месяцев назад
The black watch snipers by history hit please again my friend 🙏
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Yessir. I haven’t forgotten. I have a few others recorded waiting for me to edit and then I’ll get to that one for ya.
@jerkyd499
@jerkyd499 7 месяцев назад
@@johnf-americanreacts1287 thanks friends!
@karlhaug5001
@karlhaug5001 7 месяцев назад
Have you ever covered the devils brigade? If so when
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
Hi Karl. I did cover the devil’s brigade about 9 months ago. Here’s the link in case you’re interested. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-KC-fjOYpXRE.htmlsi=o1t9o2qldEKA5ARf
@brbear54
@brbear54 7 месяцев назад
You want an example of Inter-country cooperation. Royal Canadian Navy Mine Sweeping flotilla 31 assigned to sweep the approaches to Omaha Beach. That's right Omaha. They were told before they left, expect 75% casualties. They were also told that once they started the sweep no matter how heavy the shelling got they could take no evasive measures they just had to take it. If their ship was disabled and had to stop they would be sunk by the guns of the US Navy. Spoiler alert 31 did it's job no ships sunk. But no Flotilla 31 no Saving Private Ryan.
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
That’s amazing. I want to know more.
@brbear54
@brbear54 7 месяцев назад
It is a good story. To get a more detailed account Google. HMCS Wasaga Battle of Normandy. Just a few tiny Canadian ships plus a couple of Norwegian given the task of ensuring the safety of American Infantry. This is why the Allies won WW2. So many countries working together in a common cause.@@johnf-americanreacts1287
@PaulGreening
@PaulGreening 7 месяцев назад
i sailed on the river class hmcs fraser and retired her they pretty much had same technology except for weapons onboard lol when we went to american ports the us sailors use to ask us if it was a museum boat lol
@johnf-americanreacts1287
@johnf-americanreacts1287 7 месяцев назад
lol. I just looked it up. Served from 1957-1994. She had a long career. Thank you for your service friend.
@PaulGreening
@PaulGreening 7 месяцев назад
And I'm the same age as u lol
@PaulGreening
@PaulGreening 7 месяцев назад
Yup
@PaulGreening
@PaulGreening 7 месяцев назад
@@johnf-americanreacts1287 thanks
@christopher480
@christopher480 6 месяцев назад
Fyi you mentioned a maple leaf flag on the sackville.....that was not our flag until well after ww2.
@Clever01010
@Clever01010 7 месяцев назад
🤔 One time 🇨🇦Canada had the third biggest Navy in the world Next to the U.S and Britain.😉
@DouglasDruigA
@DouglasDruigA 3 месяца назад
Canada was the first Country that included women to vote back in the first world war.and it took USA to do the same after so much pain within your own country. we try to include everybody with commence. Not so difficult if you really think about it.
@woobyca7709
@woobyca7709 5 месяцев назад
Sackville, New Brunswick borders onto Nova Scotia
@viking670
@viking670 7 месяцев назад
The RCN was the 4th largest in the world at the time but thanks to the likes of Pierre Trudeau who also dismantled the last of our Belvedere aircraft carriers, the RCN now is around the same size as Luxemburg's.
@MrMontm
@MrMontm 2 месяца назад
The Navy is a fair size and up to date .. the ships are I bit long in the tooth. but remember that the tories had a hand in the downsizing of the military remember Diefenbaker and the Avro Arrow by the way Luxembourg is landlocked and has no navy
@viking670
@viking670 2 месяца назад
@@MrMontm Up to date? We only have what, 12 destroyers?
@MrMontm
@MrMontm 2 месяца назад
the uk has 4 destroyers and 12 frigates
@MrMontm
@MrMontm 2 месяца назад
@@viking670 UK has 12 frigates and 4 destroyers
@viking670
@viking670 2 месяца назад
@@MrMontm Only 4 destroyers in the RN!!?? No way!!??
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