Canister Shells Vs. Professional Display Shells 2.5inch! 

Thanks man! I appreciate the feedback on my video!

Hello Cody

Hell cody

I agree!!!

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I do agree there. They need to get higher than they do now.

Part of the issue is the short tubes that come with some consumer kits. Swapping from a 12” to 18” gets a lot more height. Still could use more lift though.

Definitely agree had shells brake just above a house height 😂

100% a few years ago I got a batch of "electric rain" they weren't kidding about the rain, set my yard on fire, they were 60gram cannisters and they only went 60ft in the air at best, they were WAY too low.

Thanks for watching and subscribing! And yes 1.3 just blows consumer out of the water.

Thankfully we can get some 1.3 stuff here as consumers although we aren't allowed any form of mortar shell... Hence we have some huge stick rockets available! Display stuff sometimes goes up to 1.1!

Thanks for watching!

Glad you enjoyed!

i see people saying this but never see it happen once . i my grand father did 1.3g shells in 70's and 80's in that time era it was knowing they did a lot of reloading shells at pro fireworks shows and my grand father did pro fireworks over 30 years just saying

@@funtyes1970 I've never seen it happen either, but I don't like taking chances. Some people have never seen a plane crash or a boat sink, but apparently they happen too.

@@pex_the_unalivedrunk6785 Pro tip: always load the mortar with no part of the body over the tube. Lower the shell with the string or fuse from the side of the tube. Treat it like a loaded gun and never put any part of your body or hands over the tube. I guarantee you that's how @david elssworth's grand father and his professional colleagues did it too, especially if they were reloading mortars.

I haven’t bought a case of cans in almost a year to be honest.

@@midwestpyrotechnics318 I would rather have overloaded and in some cases regular canister shells instead of the 2 and 3 inch diameter ball shells but the 5 and 6 inch ball shells are awaome

@@dontpanic_pyro6366 except for salutes. Everyone loves salutes.

Even the fuses on the pro grade ones are even burn and better timed

Thanks! I will have some more in the near future.

Well the lowest rates I can get are: 3” 72/1 are $170 4” 36/1 are $160. It really just depends on the quality desired and the size. It’s hard for me to break it down all the way.

@@midwestpyrotechnics318 No worries thanks for that, even that's a good insight into it :)

120 shells for 200? Wtf are you on crack ??

I use a distributor. There are all throughout the country. Kinda hard to find though. You must have your ATF license to purchase display fireworks. Thanks for watching!

Yeah those are some good canister shells. Some of my favorite for sure.

Just use a longer tube. Use the appropriate plastic or fiberglass tubes.

Then they would have to add less stars because total weight of a shell has to be 60 grams of explosive material. That would make the break seem smaller because less stars while higher.

yeah cuz most class b shells are balls so the break is gonna be more symmetrical den canister shells

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Yes

Glad you enjoyed! And I will be posting a video on the ATF license process this month or next.

@@midwestpyrotechnics318 that would be perfect! Keep up the good work!

Keep in mind the ATF license is not the end-all be-all to shoot these shells. Depending on which state you live in, there may be more requirements involved. Like insurance, shooters license, permits, fire coverage, and an appropriate site with appropriate distances.

Look up displayfireworks1 on youtube. He has a video & a webpage with info to help you.

@@sethwatson8952 you only need extra permits if you doing a big show with a lot of people what i understand

What you need to do is stop making your own fireworks and work instead learning how to write or type in English because I cannot understand what the fuck you are even saying.

Check out my other videos. I explain the entire process

@@midwestpyrotechnics318 And the alphabet boy's can come to your house anytime without notice and you have to let them in, it's not peaches and flowers. I'd never get a 54 too much worry, I just do what I do and enjoy like I been doing for decades

I looked into the Type 54, and everything that goes with it. I came to the conclusion that it generally costs way too much money, and I ultimately don't want the responsibility and hassle of it. Particularly, there's obligatory paperwork that you better have correct when it gets looked at, and I'm not super awesome at that stuff. On the other hand, I did get my state display operator's license. That allows me to run any 1.3 show. It is a fairly straight forward apprenticeship type thing, and I got paid to do all those shows even as a non-licensee. It is not much money, $100 for the license, and a written test. $100 every 4 years to renew. The best way to do that is to join a firework club if available, or if not, call up display companies that work in your area and ask them if you can get in with their company. They're usually looking for help.

ATF type 54

You must have a license to but them

@@midwestpyrotechnics318 is there any way to get them without a license? I wanna have a good time next year

Are you mentally diaabled or are you smoking some great drug we never heard about?

I will have to cut a 2.5 open sometime to find out. Great ideal though! Thanks for subscribing!

@@midwestpyrotechnics318 cool, awesome Content. I had to SUBSCRIBE for more👍🎇👍. I'd love to see more of the effects that came in that 2.5" case. I may grab a few more for the Stash!!!

@@midwestpyrotechnics318 I second this. What is the content?

The shoot experience is where I’m stuck, not sure how I’m going to help shoot 3 different professional shows..

The people you buy from or a display company will store it for you until needed date most times.

@Kevin Nix what is a hobby license? is this the 1.3g license?

Why would storage be an issue? Almost all dealers do contingency storage for you until the day you shoot. Also a indoor storage magazine is only $325 to build

@@fredluden2298 see these are thing I never knew lol. I need to find a hobby group I can talk to cause I'd be down

Honestly it used to be cheaper to buy professional shells than to buy consumer canister shells.

I can’t remember…I usually do

Surprisingly they are depending on where you buy them.

I have a license and I made my mortar tube.

I can’t remember honestly.

I can get consumer shells for about $1.90 ish per shell and 2.5” display shells for about $1.75 roughly.

Nice!!

You can get your 54 in Illinois but the state requirements are ridiculous to shoot 1.3 legally there

Yes they do I’ve enjoyed lots of their products

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@@midwestpyrotechnics318 no doubt.

I have a distributor who imports them.

@@midwestpyrotechnics318 can you tell us who your distributor is

@@minicinnamonpoptart2494 the 1.3 box in the background says Wayne's World Fireworks, Llc.

Funny enough, consumer 1.75" shells cost nearly the same as 2.5" commercial shells. My wholesale cost for a case of 5" or 6" cannister shells is $178 plus shipping to me is $24/case. That comes out to $2.80/shot. If you look at Casabella's public price list for 1.3g 2.5" shells, they average $2.93 each with 3" shells at $4.15. This was my first year shooting 1.3g with a local company, and I can tell you without a doubt I would have argued the 1.4 stuff I shoot is similar to 2.5" shells....and I now realize just how wrong I would have been. At basically the same price, the 2.5" is WAY higher breaking and with a larger spread.

@@adammerritt It's an exciting time for fireworks. That's for sure! While driving to view a professional display in my area now (where serious fireworks have been illegal for my whole life), the whole route is lit with amazing displays. It makes me wish I were a pilot.

Not too bad

No it's not too bad.

Also nice vid man love it

Depends. What size?

@@midwestpyrotechnics318 the 2.5a that you have

I just checked the catalog and my distributor doesn’t carry all coconut shells but I’d imagine it would cost around $200 for a case of 2.5s.

And 100 comes in the case right?

The high angle of the effect vs camera plays tricks. It's hard to discern the height of the break.

@@richavic4520 there are a lot of the consumer videos where they put a scale on the screen. Not that it's a perfect measurement, but it would at least give some form of compare and contrast. Maybe do both vids in split screen? Just thinking of ways I would do it if I could make a video myself. I know there's still fisheye to deal with, etc. but again, side by side is still pretty hard to argue with. Like I said, I applaud your effort in the video you were able to present! Thanks

Are you blind or mentally disabled? You can clearly see how much higher the professional shells break. Just count the seconds from as soon as the lift charge goes off on a consumer shell till it breaks in the sky. It's 3 seconds. With the pro shells is around 4 to 5 seconds. And common sense says it will obviously go higher because pro shells has more black powder on the lift charge than a canister shell.

They are considered professional and exceeded the max limit of 60g comp.

Get your ATF license

Go on purple magus and e bay

Yeah but my distributor only carries salutes in 1.75 and 2 inch. So 2.5 inch is all I’m able to get for display color shells that small. Next time I go to lynch imports I may try and get some 2 inch display shells for a comparison. I’d really like to put some death shells next to some 2.5s. I think that would be a good comparison but I don’t have any of those.

That advice is going to get someone killed. NEVER us PVC, it fragments. We use the HDPE for a real good reason, it doesn't fragment.

@@sethwatson8952 calling the cops gets people killed

@@charlesyates6687 That's not relevant to my statement...

@@sethwatson8952 bit true you call the cops on neighbors dog and you or the mejor will be killed beaten or kidnapped by the cops . And as far as pvc been doing it for 50 years no problems.

I agree but I can’t find any around me

Check out my video on that process!

I really don’t have many great consumer brands available for a decent price. I just had to work with what I have. I’m hoping someone will send me a box of death shells or something good to compare against 1.3 shells.

No idea lol

That’s such a consumer fireworks guy comment. You obviously have never fired a single display shell in your life. Let alone seeing a 1.3g shell burst in person. RU-vid is one thing, up close in person is another.

@@beemerguy2160 I replied and it looks like somebody might have taken it down. You're a moron if you think that I would make a comment like that and not have dealt with them personally. Maybe you should get out there and have more experience with things and see for yourself. Looks like you haven't run into the right canister shell. And as I said before, drink a little more whiskey at 3:00 a.m and insult someone else on RU-vid and start an argument. 2.5" to 3" 1.3g COLOR SHELLS, NOT SALUTES are nothing special. I have cans that are the equivalent and some even better. You just have to find the right ones. But nobody can tell you anything you have it all figured out.

Price difference not worth it? You must be talking about illegal "street" prices. I can legally buy a good-quality case of 72 3" shells for less than the cost of 2 24-piece can shell kits. The performance will be WAY better also. 1.3 will almost always be a better value product when compared to 1.4 dollar per dollar. US consumer fireworks are 60% cardboard/clay and 100% markup.

Awesome! Thanks for watching.

@@midwestpyrotechnics318 Np pyro brother

Wouldn’t be the first lol

Yeah everyone wants the good stuff haha.

I got one in Houston

i disagree . you can see 1.3 ball shell have way bigger break and like it should cuz it is 1.3g

@Ethan Hill Terre Haute area.

@@midwestpyrotechnics318 awesome! I’m from spencer. Which is 40 min from terra haute. I just got my 1.3 license yesterday. So I’m pretty stoked

Because they have flash which makes them salutes.

Then we’ll just get bigger 🤷🏽‍♂️😂kush shells are weak compared to the bigger display shells

@@jesusg853 Kush are still sick for 1.75 canister shells.

Get a license

We have done that a time or two

Nice!

They are 2.5 inch display shells and they are over the 60 gram limit is my guess.

Because they contain more composition than legally allowed in consumer shells and are regulated by the BATFE as explosives.

Send me a sleeve and I’ll do a comparison!

Yes it’s not uncommon I’ve noticed.

Yeah, it’s kind of stupid though. Wish people would pay attention to it and label it correctly. Actually sometimes it’s because they’re copying another brand’s shells and just slapping a random label on it

Unfortunately so…but it helps pay the bills and fireworks aren’t cheap

@@midwestpyrotechnics318 I hope you didn't misunderstand, it wasn't meant to be an attack on you, it's just commentary (frustration) on the entire youtube website.

Pretty much

Which one is $8 a shot and which one is $2 a shot?

@@111DAKIDD canister shells are about $2 the 3.1 atf 2.5in shells are about $8-10.

@@johnnyleewalker9872 1.3g 2.5 inch ball shell cost about 2 bucks for color, 3 bucks for salute. Find a wholesaler near you and buy by the case.

@@johnwimer5902 give me the name of the company that sells that cheap?

Sure hgivens1.3g@gmail.com

It’s still fun to see the comparison between the two though. This was just for fun.

Yeah. Just a scope of black powder, scope of stars and plug it up.

It was just for good fun. I really want to get some top of the line canister shells like Death Shells to make it a little more even.

I am with u though, I dig the Zeus shells!!

They are very impressive shells. I’ve used them in shows for several years.