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Canon 650D & 700D - Should You Buy One? 

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Since the Canon Eos-m is in high priced and in short supply, I made this quick video about my thoughts on the Canon 650D & 700D which both have crop mood
Im really enjoying the 650D and in my opinion is a much better camera than the small eosm body.
0:00 - Intro
0:47 - 650D Sample footage
2:10 - Price is too high
2:44 - Heat Problems
3:47 - Image Quality
5:32- EF is BEST!
6:23 Rigging
8:08 Should you buy it?
Lenses USD in sample footage were Canon FD 50mm 1.8 & 35 -70mm F4
Canon 650D & 700D - Should You Buy One?
#canon #magiclantern #eosm #650d #700D

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@posiaduroja1599
@posiaduroja1599 Год назад
The sample footage gives me an idea of a perfect fashion film ad. Brilliant
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Awesome bro. We're filming one too soon.
@posiaduroja1599
@posiaduroja1599 Год назад
@@Altcine on magic lantern or the Sony cams?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
@@posiaduroja1599 both. We're shooting some stuff in the sea so that will be ML for sure.
@coreyallan-audiovideo
@coreyallan-audiovideo 9 месяцев назад
Im in the habit of immediately liking your videos because I KNOW its going to be massively informative and extremely entertaining. Pretty cool that your content can instill that level of confidence. 🙏
@Altcine
@Altcine 9 месяцев назад
That's a good sign 😁 thank you
@cinematicvlogger3467
@cinematicvlogger3467 Год назад
This footage looks like a feature film! I'm looking to add another camera or two for my multi-cam studio shoots, I'm gonna look at these camera on marketplace, I've even thought about a 50D, so we'll see. You're video tests are always inspiring, thanks for what you do!
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Thanks man. Try get a 700D over a 50D if possible. I think it'll give you more options in recording.
@officialsayer1tv328
@officialsayer1tv328 Год назад
fabulous shots brother never could I imagine the 650d would produce such beautiful shots
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Nice one bro and thanks for being the talent for this 🙌🏾🙌🏾
@wilsoncortezribeiro
@wilsoncortezribeiro Год назад
Very nice video, Colin. Besides all the tech stuff, you now what amazes me more? Your progress, bro! Fantastic 😍 congrats, bro!!!!!
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Wilson, you're too kind bro. Thank you so much bro
@titaniumshell
@titaniumshell Год назад
Great video - I do agree, I much prefer the form factor of my 700D especially with the battery grip. The only thing I need to get used to is going back to not speedboosting lenses. Loving the teaser for the documentary too, can't wait for it to drop. Needs a premiere night
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Yeah Paul, I know we're in the same camp on the handling side. Speedboosters are sooo useful but thankfully I gave them up a long time ago when learning about light and incorporating it more so I don't really miss it. Yeah I'll definitely do a premiere for the film 🙌🏾 good idea.
@soulmsteve1466
@soulmsteve1466 Год назад
@@AltcineI'm officially intoxicated 👍👍👍🔥🔥🔥 keep up Man!!!
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Thank you 😁🙌🏾🙌🏾
@Abraham_dvij
@Abraham_dvij 10 месяцев назад
Thanks ma man! I do think to purchase my first camera, so I had two choices: 650d and 700d, coz I don't have a lot money for 5d Mark2 or 90d. I really realised the fact that it's not always about camera, but the person who hold it. The footage is really great 🙌
@Altcine
@Altcine 9 месяцев назад
Hi, that's the great thing about ml...it's low price point. Try to go 700d if possible.
@PVMMAC
@PVMMAC Год назад
Great work Cole! 🎉
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Thank you 🙌🏾
@MehmetKozal
@MehmetKozal Год назад
Looking forward for more dude. Thanks
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Thank you brother. Will definitely do more on this...there's so much more to explore.
@otter-pro
@otter-pro Год назад
Wow, that was an amazing clip of 650d, never thought it was an old DSLR. The color just pops! I might need to get 650/700 even though I already have EOS-M. Looking forward to more videos on magic lantern on these camera.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Thank you. Yes this camera performs extremely well. Still has aliasing in 1080 but that's common across all the ml cams. Very nice to get a stable shot on 5k modes too, to avoid rolling shutter. I can't recommend it enough.
@DarkTrapStudio
@DarkTrapStudio Год назад
@@Altcine Yeah the aliasing was intense at moment
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Yeah but that's why it's important to test often. If I need to shoot 1080 again in a similar setting then I know it's only his glasses that could potentially give it away that this was shot on ml. A lot of people leave those shots out but I think it's important to leave them in otherwise we'll never get past the limitations.
@DarkTrapStudio
@DarkTrapStudio Год назад
@@Altcine Yeah or add diffusion filter like in your other video on ML and Aliasing
@Hamidu
@Hamidu Год назад
I love your methodology when it’s comes to this lifey
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
I spent so much money trying things out that you really have to consider future purposes 🙌🏾
@royverges5925
@royverges5925 8 месяцев назад
re lenses - I use a lot of vintage M42 mount Super Takumars, and they'll work on tons of different cameras, so I wouldn't be discouraged about having to resell lenses. Great video!
@Altcine
@Altcine 8 месяцев назад
That's a good look, and better that you don't have to sell them because of their adaptability.
@jamesfulton8310
@jamesfulton8310 11 месяцев назад
Just getting into Videography, purely for enjoyment and creativity. Can't thank you enough for sharing these great cameras and methods. There is nothing less inspiring than crap video quality, this is the perfect solution for what I want to do, Anamorphic cinematic shots in the mountains. I ordered my 650d yesterday.
@Altcine
@Altcine 11 месяцев назад
Oooh Anamorphic + mountains = win 🙌🏾 thank you bro
@brahim20112010
@brahim20112010 Год назад
Thanks for sharing this 🙌
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
No probs bro 🙌🏾
@spidiq8
@spidiq8 Год назад
Excellent video and great footage as ever man. The 80's was the best era, I love the tech that's evolved since but everything 80's was so cool.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Thank you bro. Yeah the 80's was a special period man, so much going on and a time when movies were actually good.
@spidiq8
@spidiq8 Год назад
@@Altcine How true. Think about all the quotable movie lines and how many from that period. So cool.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Yep, and they all live on till this day
@spidiq8
@spidiq8 Год назад
@@Altcine Too right, my 18 year old sons favourite movie is back to the future. There's such a charm about that whole era. Practical effects and great stories.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Ahhh BTTF is the best man. Number 2 is one my faves
@wilsoncortezribeiro
@wilsoncortezribeiro Год назад
BTW.... interesting doc about the ML. GREAT idea
@lucisdiary01
@lucisdiary01 9 месяцев назад
Good content deserve more subs ❤good luck ♥️
@Altcine
@Altcine 9 месяцев назад
Thank you so much 🙌🏾🙌🏾
@robocoontv3245
@robocoontv3245 Год назад
Thx for the video. I like your silver lens 😀. I owned a 550d for a very long time. It was also nice even without a flippy screen. I think my son still has the 70d lying around but he isn't doing anything with it 😢
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Thank you, and yes...that silver lens is my fave 😁 you need to get that 70D and put ML on it lol. Or wait a few months and sell it for £300 🤣🤣
@kingpossie
@kingpossie Год назад
Or get both. EOS M pocketable with the 22/2 or kit zoom lens and the 650/700D for longer shoots. I think I prefer the convenience of mirrorless for my casual shooting although I could get my M42 lenses adapted to EF. Looking forward to your ML docu ❤ peace!
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
That's definitely an option too 👍🏾👍🏾
@independent_shoot17
@independent_shoot17 9 месяцев назад
I have 650D from 2022 and use for racing photography it's enough good for me, happy with it
@Altcine
@Altcine 6 месяцев назад
This is it bro, keep it going 👌🏾
@isaacstech3629
@isaacstech3629 Год назад
I just got a 700d for my fiance and I might just get one for myself. It's good to hear that ML performs as well as the EOS M or even better because of heat management. I'm in a hot environment so that would be great! Also, the 650/700d are still great photo cameras. It's great if you're like me and are interested in doing more photography and travel video than making short films or doing client work.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Awesome man, I can only imagine how good the photos will look 👌🏾 It's a great all-round cam so you should definitely pick one up if possible.
@isaacstech3629
@isaacstech3629 Год назад
@@Altcine Plus even though you can’t use them with new canons, there’s like 20yrs worth of glass you can get for cheap
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
💯. I really like sigma 18-35 and canon fd on the ml cams.
@PaulKepnerProductions
@PaulKepnerProductions Год назад
I love vintage things as well. I collect and watch laserdisk movies and love using my og BMPCC and 2.5K BMCC. BTW that music on House of Black has a cool Grandmaster Flash vibe to it 😊
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Yes Paul 🙌🏾 I remember watching movies on laser disc at my friend's house. The first time I saw it was thinking this quality looks so good and it very futuristic. And yes, the OG Blackmagic's are definitely the best option if you want your footage to look alive with that beautiful texture. I love modern sensors but these old ones can't be beaten.
@PaulKepnerProductions
@PaulKepnerProductions Год назад
@@Altcine currently I have around 500 laserdiscs in my collection and two Pioneer players. If you were close Id be happy to let you check them out 🙂
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Wow!!! That's an impressive collection 😮 I'd probably just sit and watch movies for an entire week lol
@e.s.channel1526
@e.s.channel1526 Год назад
Couldn't take my eyes off that Sony tube tv. Gorgeous
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
😁🙌🏾🙌🏾 I've actually used it in music videos, hired it out for 80's parties etc. I wish I had a bigger apartment to have more retro things.
@mblendezt
@mblendezt Год назад
Most of succesful people loves Hystory, not just remain but Hystory is Re-remain. Ages and years change, but the pattern of succesness are the same. Loving old things is one of the sign
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
That's very interesting! I do find history fascinating from ancient upto modern times. Everything after the 90's just feels so dead though.
@PVMMAC
@PVMMAC Год назад
@@Altcineit’s because everything to computerized (ex: Hollywood marvel movies ) lol
@hvxcolors396
@hvxcolors396 8 месяцев назад
I got the EOS M because of its small size. Given the size of the 700D I could as well go for a 5d mk3 which I can get fairly cheap. Has the 700D in ML an advantage over the 5dmk3 in terms of clip length overheating etc? The development of ML goes so fast that videos on YT get outdated very quickly! Many thanks. Great to see that you cover ML so well.
@Altcine
@Altcine 6 месяцев назад
Yeah you definitely could. The 5d prices have become quite reasonable now which is really good. The 700 has crop mood which is great but the 5d's have the most insane quality
@jhernandezpvd
@jhernandezpvd Год назад
Omg man i just got a 650d on ebay for $100 with battery grip and its a great!!! Thank you
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Damn that's cheap man! Great deal
@jhernandezpvd
@jhernandezpvd Год назад
@@Altcine mad cheap ill take it out today and see how it compares to the EOSM
@bluerabbit1236
@bluerabbit1236 Год назад
I had my eyes on the EOS M but someone in the Facebook groups said don't buy the EOS M and go buy a 650 or 700D instead. I pulled the trigger 2 days ago and purchased a 700D for less than 200 bucks including shipping. It comes with two batteries and the original 18-55mm lens too. Now I see that I made the right decision. That is an insane bargain lol. Thanks a lot for the video. I can't wait to take this baby on a test run as soon as it arrives.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Awesome. Yes I think the person gave you good advice. The body alone makes it a far more versatile tool than the little Eos-M. It's just perfect for filmmaking.
@TMIDD
@TMIDD Год назад
great video!
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Thank you. Much appreciated
@nemisis4804MaddLabsTv
@nemisis4804MaddLabsTv Год назад
I bought a camvate half cage even if you don't buy just look it up, it might be worth it. Respect!
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Do you have a link please? 🙌🏾
@alphawolfa4e773
@alphawolfa4e773 Год назад
AYE! It's here, watching it now
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Lovely 🙌🏾
@alphawolfa4e773
@alphawolfa4e773 Год назад
Do you recommend the Canon eos m running magic lantern in a warm Caribbean climate, outside in particular. Or should I go for the Canon 650D?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
There's plenty of people using it in hot climates so I think you should be ok. Recording long form content might be an issue but I'm sure you could still get some decent work done.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
I would say that the 650D/700D has better heat management but we're still maxing out the hardware but you will have a better experience than the normal body m
@alphawolfa4e773
@alphawolfa4e773 Год назад
@@Altcine I'm interested in using it for fashion photography to start a business and grow my brand/image. So I'm interested in using it to do cinema level videography for RU-vid, Commercial work for television and Instagram as well as photo shoots for artist development in terms of music reel. Artist Branding and development. Do you recommend the 650d for that?
@rag3geCKo
@rag3geCKo Месяц назад
Great video man. You just holding shotgun mic for the fun of it? lol
@Altcine
@Altcine Месяц назад
🤣🤣 I don't know, sometimes I just grab it and hit record.
@amermeleitor
@amermeleitor 11 месяцев назад
Maybe it's time to get a T5i before the prices start skyrocketing 🤔 I have a 77D and M100 just for hobby photography use (cheap cameras, cheap lenses, can adapt my old vintage lenses collection). I hope someday ML can land in the 77D
@Altcine
@Altcine 11 месяцев назад
Yep, now is a good time to grab one
@PalmettoMoon
@PalmettoMoon Год назад
So close to 10k subs!!!! You big time baller 😂
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
🤣🤣 only took 100 years lol
@joemonteithcinematography7477
If you want a stupid cheap option...check out the 50D! Shoots 14-bit RAW video continuous without needing ANY experimental firmware...just the stable ML build. Super35 14-bit RAW video for as little as $95! Caveat is huge: The camera originally did not shoot video with it's stock firmware, so there is zero onboard audio.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Oh that's interesting. Is the build for 50D a nightly build? Crop mood is extremely stable though.
@joemonteithcinematography7477
@@Altcine I believe so! I don't actually own one but have known about it for a while. Might pick one up sometime to play around.
@bluerabbit1236
@bluerabbit1236 8 месяцев назад
@@joemonteithcinematography7477So your source is some dude who talked to some dude about a dude who owns a camera with a supposedly great ml build that's a mystery. Aka a bunch of hearsay bs and ZERO personal experience. Got it.
@jodagold5481
@jodagold5481 Год назад
Really cool thanks ! What lenses did you use on the video it was very slick !
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Thank you, I just added that to the info about 10secs ago as I forgot. Canon FD 50mm 1.8 & 35 -70mm F4
@jodagold5481
@jodagold5481 Год назад
@@Altcine fantastic thank you so much - I actually bought the 650d on the back of one of your vids , I’m very grateful for your tutorials and advice muchos:)
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Awesome, glad to hear it 🙌🏾 hopefully you get one that doesn't have the shutter bug. If you do ..don't fight with trying to get the shutter right in ml menu. Just make sure it's set correctly on canon menu. Happy shooting bro
@stephanes.
@stephanes. Год назад
your antenna on your TV is awesome! Stranger Things like lol
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
😁 yeah I hear that.🙌🏾🙌🏾
@BradJames83
@BradJames83 Год назад
I've only just found this channel?! I am a fan of vintage, to the point that I am going to try and buy a Krasnogorsk K3, Super 16mm camera.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Vintage is amazing right! I love vintage lenses the most bt that Krasnogorsk looks very interesting
@MrBilloven
@MrBilloven 3 месяца назад
Excellent video. Which magic lantern version do you use with 650d/700d?
@Altcine
@Altcine 3 месяца назад
Thank you, definitely crop mood. I've been meaning to try out the latest Danne builds but been to busy
@skybillz6640
@skybillz6640 Год назад
Am sure this tool can give me the best shoots of my dreams
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Yeah if you have good light and a good scene it can work wonders.
@rappahel
@rappahel 7 месяцев назад
heyy love ur videos i also wanna know your ML settings for video can you make a video or some info?
@Altcine
@Altcine 7 месяцев назад
Thank you, you're very kind. I'll definitely do something in the new year 💯
@martinmcguire2329
@martinmcguire2329 Год назад
Love ur vids . If i buy a 650d can i use it in the mlite body or do you plan to make one for the 650d?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Hi, unfortunately you can't. The m & 650 are made very different from eachother.
@rvtbh
@rvtbh 4 месяца назад
is there any way which can be zoomed in then taking a picture ?, i've had this question for a while and all sites seem not to have an answer, whether in picture mode or recording , can you zoom in and take the picture while zoomed in/ recording ??
@kadenschilling8377
@kadenschilling8377 Год назад
Right now I’m close to deciding on getting the M-lite rehousing as long as it’s still in stock. If I rehouse the EOS-M into the M-lite would you still recommend the 650? Or at that point are they not worth comparing?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
They're too very different cams imo and definitely depends on what you plan to shoot. The 650 does have a lot of the features I was trying to solve by building the M-Lite but the M-Lite has to be seen as a more professional tool. No magic lantern camera will beat the M-Lite for heat management, rigging and handling but the 650d is a far more useful than the small Eos m.
@mattstone8878
@mattstone8878 Год назад
I love the dad joke in the intro! Classic 😂
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
🤣🤣 I'm so lame lol
@outsidetherapyexperience
@outsidetherapyexperience Год назад
fantastic video. i've been wondering about heat displacement lately. i live in a hot climate so i usually do my shooting early in the day before the temperature rises. the other day i decided to run some tests in the afternoon and my record times were rubbish. the shots were outside (35-37c) so obviously no way to control the environment. the M wasn't even giving half the amount of record time i can get in the mornings when its 21/22c before it would stop recording on it own. I'm wondering if you have pushed the m-lite with continuous shooting to see if it overheats with the fan? or if you have just noticed a difference in performance/ record times using 12 or 14 bit? for reference i usually shoot danne's build 5kfrtp 10 bit. the tests i referred to earlier was trying out crop moods in various settings and then back to 5k frtp. the M choked on all attempts in those temperatures no matter what settings i was using. I'm thinking about pulling the trigger on either an m-lite or a 650d to see if i can get better performance from a cooler sensor. since you have both what do you think would be the better option? thanks for any input. i love your vibe and love your content, you do great work.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Firstly, thank you so much for kind comment 🙌🏾 I've stressed the M-Lite in Barbados & Spain. Barbados was about 35° when I went but the M-Lite performed like a boss with the fan. The key is to start the fan immediately upon turning on the camera in hot conditions and it'll always stay cool. The 650d is great too but I've never tested it in a hot country. In Bilal's walkthrough video I noticed his temps were quite high and I believe he's from Lebanon. I've never seen my temps that high but UK is obviously much cooler.
@outsidetherapyexperience
@outsidetherapyexperience Год назад
@@Altcine thank you for the reply. i noticed that about the sensor. once it gets hot it doesn't want to perform well until it has fully cooled down again😂. i just pulled the trigger on an m-lite. i haven't been able to find a video doing a full walk through of it. how does the fan work? i assume it's on full time as long as it's plugged into power? i figured I better grab one before they are no longer available. super excited to get it. my ultimate goal is to get longer continuios recording in 5kfrtp 12 bit, or better yet, dare I dream 14 bit.
@Meddred
@Meddred Год назад
Nice one again bro ! Would you say the footage quality is the same as the original eosm ?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Thank you. I would say they look similar but the 650D looks a tiny bit better to my eye. I really need to do a side by side asap....just to make sure I'm not seeing things.
@Meddred
@Meddred Год назад
@@Altcine It's a very close call bro
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Yes, agreed
@RobertsMedia01
@RobertsMedia01 23 дня назад
What are those mods you’ve done to make it look more like the cinema cameras?
@poetu7334
@poetu7334 Год назад
Hi, first of all I would like to thank you for the informative videos, they really helped me learn a lot! I want to get into what Magic Lantern means and I have a question: In my country, the prices for a 700D and a 5D2 are roughly similar (150 USD) and a 5D3 is a little more expensive (400 USD) and I honestly don't know which choice to make! Do you think the 5D2 is worth more than the 700D? And what do you think of the differences between 5D2 and 5D3? Do you think it's worth investing a little more and buying a 5D3? Thanks in advance for the answer and for everything you do on RU-vid! Edit: And, for me, it's more important to be able to use an external monitor without problems, because with the fixed screen on a 5D you can't do too much!
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Hey, thank you bro. Well this is a really hard decision considering the price similarity. The 5d2 & 3 will have much better image and work well. Crop mood is the best experience and for most people it makes sense because the 700D is a couple hundred cheaper in most countries. I would probably go with the 5d2 if it's the same price and hope that crop mood comes at some point.
@MrKytai90
@MrKytai90 Год назад
I got a canon 70d , with all advantages of 650d, but no cropmood, high fps, dual iso, So envy!!!
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Hopefully we will see crop mood developed for a lot more camera's in the future.
@Troy_Sent_A_Message
@Troy_Sent_A_Message Год назад
@@Altcine I'm hopeful for the 77d, little smaller than 70d/80d with all the same good features!
@ouzijoee
@ouzijoee Год назад
Really great footage. I have, for my part, started the journey with 100d, but unfortunately the pixel maps for all crop mood resolution are not yet available, so you have to deal with the pink dots everywhere, i also got some random striped frame, which can randomly appear if you are under exposed. Have you got any of this issues?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Thank you 🙌🏾 I thought the pixel maps were available, are you sure you have them installed correctly? I don't have any of those issues on my cam but never underexpose the image otherwise it'll look awful. I do remember someone talking about that stripe, even when exposed correctly and I'm pretty sure they found a fix on the m Facebook group.
@ouzijoee
@ouzijoee Год назад
@@Altcine For the moment, there is pixel maps but not for crop mood presets (the developer replied himself about it), as for the stripes it is work in progress :) cheers, great channel
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
No pixel maps for 100d only?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Ps thank you 😀🙌🏾
@soulmsteve1466
@soulmsteve1466 Год назад
The color...Woohoo wwwwooooow🔥🔥🔥🔥
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Thank you 🙌🏾 the camera is really nice man, looks organic.
@stampydragon2739
@stampydragon2739 5 месяцев назад
I use ef lenses on the m with the adapter
@moik7089
@moik7089 7 месяцев назад
Nice video! I just want to confirm that is there any differences between the japanese version (Kiss X6i) and the 650D. Will I still able to use the crop mood with this?
@Altcine
@Altcine 7 месяцев назад
Thank you, they are all the same so I'm certain you'll be fine.
@moik7089
@moik7089 7 месяцев назад
@@Altcine okay! I think I’m buying it 😂 Thanks for very fast reply!
@Altcine
@Altcine 7 месяцев назад
@@moik7089 glad to help 🙌🏾
@Hamidu
@Hamidu Год назад
Great small film
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Thank you brother
@nosferadu
@nosferadu 9 месяцев назад
Hey, thanks for the video. I have a bit of an issue shooting with the EOS M in broad daylight. Either I overexpose shots and then the whites start to look pink (or purple?), or else if I expose for the highlights, then the entire shot starts to look kind of... bleak? I mean the colors stop looking "alive" and sure I can bring some of it back in post, but it's fiddly and unreliable. Help!
@Altcine
@Altcine 9 месяцев назад
You can fix the pink highlights in mlvapp app. It has a section made just for that. Explore every control in mlv app and you'll be very surprised how powerful it is
@DavinciHD_
@DavinciHD_ 5 месяцев назад
What’s the best quality setting with this camera in crop mood for unlimited recording ?
@Altcine
@Altcine 5 месяцев назад
Tbh they're all quite good now. On some of the higher res modes you might have to drop bitrate or shoot at 2.35:1 1080p is always going to be the most stable but you might see aliasing & moire
@bryanbarajasBB
@bryanbarajasBB Год назад
Funny I just ask about this on fb😂
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
🤣🤣 madness
@cruxidomack3845
@cruxidomack3845 8 месяцев назад
Amazing shot.. As new using 650D it would be a massive help if you can share your setting in this kind of video shoot🫶
@Altcine
@Altcine 8 месяцев назад
This was all shot in 1080p 14 bit raw. 25fps and the 1080 hfr for slow-mo. I exported in CDNG uncompressed for fast renders in mlv app. In Davinci Resolve I use sharpening in the raw tab to get it looking a bit more crispy. No other changes made, I hope that helps.
@cruxidomack3845
@cruxidomack3845 8 месяцев назад
@@Altcine thank you so much Fam, Appreciate you🫶
@Altcine
@Altcine 8 месяцев назад
Respect brother.
@aerovision257
@aerovision257 5 месяцев назад
Only concern is EF lens couldn’t adapt all the old manual lens
@BryanElliott_
@BryanElliott_ Год назад
How good is magic lantern with the 70d and is it as good as the 650d or 750d . I’m new to magic lantern and wanting to learn.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
With magic Lantern there's 3 different types Nightly Builds = Bad Dannes Builds = Good Crop Mood = Best You might get by with one of the nightly builds on 70d but if you want the best experience it's going to be crop mood on eos-m, 100d, 650d & 700d
@erovoda
@erovoda 11 месяцев назад
Imma stick to eos m, bcz we can use speedbooster... and it lightweight so the rig wont be too heavy... But nice info btw....
@Altcine
@Altcine 11 месяцев назад
Yep totally understand.
@Decoii
@Decoii 7 месяцев назад
Just a stupid question. Is the 700D the same model as the Rebel t5i. I read they're identical, but do they work the same for Crop Mood? I love my EOS M and would still use it, but I would love to try another body where I don't need an EF adapter. I invested in a couple of EF/EFs lenses rather than EFM
@Altcine
@Altcine 7 месяцев назад
No such thing as a stupid question 👍🏾 yes they're the same just have different names depending on region. Nice body shape too for an older camera.
@Decoii
@Decoii 7 месяцев назад
​@@Altcine Wow thank you for the fast reply! Your work is amazing and you ultimately convinced me to purchase the M-lite body on the last day it was available. I'm still waiting for the kit, but I've yet to find a secondary EOS M that I'm willing to take apart. The prices skyrocketed and I might be able to find a 700D for a little more
@Altcine
@Altcine 7 месяцев назад
@@Decoii awesome man, thank you so much for purchasing one..I really appreciate it. Imo you may want to skip the 700D if you've bought an M-lite. Yes it has flip screen and EF but the M-Lite has much better handling than all of them.
@winngh
@winngh Год назад
Being the tech guy among my media friends, looking to run this on one of my friend's 650D. I once introduced him to it but that was way before Crop Mood came into the scene. He uses my Sony for his shoot but want to give him reasons to use his (he actually has two 650D). Any thing I need to know would be helpful (Asked him to bring it over this weekend).
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Hi mate. It's very straightforward Tbh. The only thing is the shutter bug which I mentioned. If you try to change shutter in ml menu and it reverts back to 1/30 or whatever....don't be alarmed. Just make sure it's set right in canon menu and everything should work well.
@ruff1draft
@ruff1draft Год назад
Excellent that Canon colour science
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
It's so nice right. I think the canon fd was partly responsible too.
@namopinaeddy
@namopinaeddy Год назад
I'm about to buy my first camera. I'm not newbe in video, i'm aware of the standart now which is 10 bit internal but i can't afford them for the moment. I can afford lumix g7 or canon 700D here in my country. Would you syggest me canon with magic lantern for work, or you keep your word to keep magic lantern for B camera and buy something stable first.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Whilst you can get away with using ml for paid work with crop mood, I would be silly if I told you to have it as your only cam. Yes the colour depth, highlight recovery etc is amazing but if someone was paying me to do a job I'd rather have a normal camera first. The ml cameras are very cheap so if you're really stuck for cash they can get you started but really for your main cam you need something "normal"
@namopinaeddy
@namopinaeddy Год назад
@@Altcine thank you very much for your answer
@muraraynights5709
@muraraynights5709 Год назад
I would like to know which Crop build have used for 650d, because I tried few crop build however am limited to 10 sec recording time. Appreciate your help brother.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
I've tried all of them and they all work well. You might have to drop bitrate to 12 or 10bits but remember it's raw so there's more than enough data for colour grading. In 1080p you can still use 14bit.
@muraraynights5709
@muraraynights5709 Год назад
@@Altcine My bad, I wasn’t investing my time properly. I’ve installed again the lasted build did configure to have a correct settings this time and manage to get it work like charm now. Crop mode really a sweet spot for all ML enthusiasts.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Excellent 👌🏾👌🏾
@DarkTrapStudio
@DarkTrapStudio Год назад
Where would you buy a 650-700D at this moment ?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
I got mine from Facebook marketplace. Lots of scammers there but this woman had been a member since 2009 and had a solid profile. eBay has plenty too
@leolansangan2505
@leolansangan2505 9 месяцев назад
What are the best videography lenses on canon 650d?
@Altcine
@Altcine 9 месяцев назад
For film look I'd go with with canon FD. For clean I'd use sigma 18-35 1.8 & canon 50mm stm.
@birianination7097
@birianination7097 Год назад
When you said i recomend it above the eos m, I am like what? Know i need the vs video
@posiaduroja1599
@posiaduroja1599 Год назад
Haha, would be very a bore draw. It boils down to preference and cost (esp now that the M is expensive). Major advantages for canon 650/750D are flip screen and battery life Major advantages for EOS M are adaptability of the mount and speedbooster
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Yeah it will be extremely close and I'll only do a rec709 conversion on the footage. Doing the test against bmpcc I just noticed how much cleaner the noise was compared to Eos-M that I've shot in similar conditions. I may be just dreaming though and they're the same.
@birianination7097
@birianination7097 Год назад
@@Altcine bro i was thinking why don't you do 2023 macbook air m1 review mostly working with magic lantern
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
I did one ages ago m1 air Vs a £5k intel MacBook Pro. Hardly anyone watched it 😅
@birianination7097
@birianination7097 Год назад
@@Altcine saw that, you will be surprised what time can do. 😂😂
@DarkTrapStudio
@DarkTrapStudio Год назад
1 second : Ohhh sexy quality image
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
🙌🏾🙌🏾😁
@heartbeat5659
@heartbeat5659 6 месяцев назад
Which is better for magic lantern? 650d or 700d? And why?
@Altcine
@Altcine 6 месяцев назад
700d will be better because 650d is a gamble on the fps issue
@jovenborjal
@jovenborjal 11 месяцев назад
hi sir i installed the magic lantern but the display is still the same canon display but 5* crop, it is not like the display from every tutorial i saw that has this fancy things, what should i do thanks
@Altcine
@Altcine 11 месяцев назад
It sounds like you haven't installed all the required modules or haven't put your camera into manual and movie mode. Please follow every single step
@jovenborjal
@jovenborjal 11 месяцев назад
@@Altcine i took some picture how can i show it to you sir coz when i try to record the mini camera icon turns from orange to red and stops recording and some error pops up
@Altcine
@Altcine 11 месяцев назад
Join the Facebook group and post there 🙌🏾
@jovenborjal
@jovenborjal 11 месяцев назад
@@Altcine waiting for the approval
@testingtesting58715
@testingtesting58715 Год назад
how did you mount fd lenses on 650d? some adapter with a glass inside?
@untipollamadoraul4380
@untipollamadoraul4380 Год назад
Actually there’s an adapter with no glass, directly made by canon, though i think other brands got a no glass direct FD to EF adapter!
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Yeah I used the one with glass from k&f. On wide open fast FD's it did degrade the image a little but stepped down it looked nice.
@testingtesting58715
@testingtesting58715 Год назад
@@untipollamadoraul4380 fd to eos adapters without glass can not focus at infinity, right?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
That's right!
@LouisLuzuka
@LouisLuzuka Год назад
😮
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Hey Louis 👋🏽
@winngh
@winngh Год назад
So, what is really required to get this working on the 650D. Scouted the forum, RU-vid etc and no one seems to even talk about it. Am at sea here and might give up, it's not my camera (even though I have permission to install crop mood). Some talking of firmware versions and when I tried, am being asked about firmware 1.0.4 (which is not available on canons site) etc. I'd rather be safe than mess up since the camera is not mine (I take risk only with my gears no matter what). 😮Any info from anyone here?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
The process of install is the same as the Eos-M. On Bilal's walkthrough video he actually shows the whole install on 700D which is same as 650D. Canon fw 1.0.4 can be found online quite easily but here's a link drive.google.com/drive/mobile/folders/1ayUoWGwWzfbPanNmhEusFLA76EhZz5Ag?fbclid=IwAR3cRyO2QA4UVxZuE_Pk9e8I-d6v6hzdlhhjhsWuwDQqKMZq0YYd-cEVoSI Go to Canon firmwares folder.
@jhernandezpvd
@jhernandezpvd Год назад
What firmware is needed for the magic lantern to work?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
1.0.4 for the 650D
@beatprocess
@beatprocess 4 месяца назад
wow
@dhananjayringe
@dhananjayringe Год назад
Is there something for 600d as well? I have that since 2013. A bit effed up, but still going strong.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Not crop mood I'm afraid. There might be a nightly build which is very old and probably very buggy.
@dhananjayringe
@dhananjayringe Год назад
@@Altcine got it. I guess it's due to the processor difference?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Yeah I believe so. Digic 5 processor is in the crop mood cams.
@dhananjayringe
@dhananjayringe Год назад
@@Altcine and what about the m50, does that have any chance?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Nope, that was abandoned long ago. Eos-M, 100D, 650D & 700D are the cheapest most stable camera's for magic lantern.
@gabedestellano
@gabedestellano 9 месяцев назад
That wireless mic is the dog's bollocks, innit?
@Altcine
@Altcine 9 месяцев назад
Yes mate, absolutely love this. Hands down my favourite ever review item.
@yannickandrianambonisoa6318
How the 650d can do slowmotion?
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Yes, upto 57fps
@yingkunsrisa2752
@yingkunsrisa2752 9 месяцев назад
Are there any moire problem like EOS M?
@Altcine
@Altcine 9 месяцев назад
It's practically the same sensor so you will get moiré in 1080.
@salimakaty2773
@salimakaty2773 8 месяцев назад
I got so much grains with my 650d , even with iso 100
@Altcine
@Altcine 8 месяцев назад
What kind of lighting conditions? These cams need a lot of light
@birianination7097
@birianination7097 Год назад
Man it's a movie
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
🙌🏾🙌🏾. The doc/film is like 40mins. Tbh I didn't have a plan...it just kinda fell into place. I'm just joining up the last little bits to make it flow better.
@birianination7097
@birianination7097 Год назад
@@Altcine man your future is so bright.
@cai1000
@cai1000 Год назад
always!!
@fadelfarinsqi4304
@fadelfarinsqi4304 8 месяцев назад
Does 650d support SD card?
@Altcine
@Altcine 8 месяцев назад
Yes, same as Eos-M
@youtoba4714
@youtoba4714 Год назад
can you shar your build?
@Altcine
@Altcine 6 месяцев назад
My build is the pretty much stock crop mood. I don't really change anything.
@ericd1084
@ericd1084 3 месяца назад
5:01 I think your sunglasses are broken. 🫠
@Altcine
@Altcine 3 месяца назад
Lol that’s the style of them….very weird glasses.
@beatprocess
@beatprocess 4 месяца назад
recording time?
@Altcine
@Altcine 4 месяца назад
Unlimited if you choose the right settings
@beatprocess
@beatprocess 4 месяца назад
@@Altcine can you get 1080 on the 700d? Unlimited time
@Altcine
@Altcine 4 месяца назад
@@beatprocess yes 1080 is definitely unlimited at full 14bit raw 16:9
@beatprocess
@beatprocess 4 месяца назад
@@Altcine dang
@beatprocess
@beatprocess 4 месяца назад
@@Altcine might sell my Fuji xt-3
@stephanes.
@stephanes. Год назад
After this video, the price of the 650D jumped about 200%!
@Troy_Sent_A_Message
@Troy_Sent_A_Message Год назад
The reason I wish YT'ers wouldn't spotlight the good stuff. Happens every time.
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Madness 😔
@Troy_Sent_A_Message
@Troy_Sent_A_Message 11 месяцев назад
@@Altcine it's all good. No where near as bad as what IG, and Articles have done to outdoor nature locations. Wish everyone would just go to Disneyland, and Las Vega's.... no reason to go out in nature, nothing to see, better to just go to some man made cement playground for your vacation, much nicer, no bugs, and A/C, wifi everywhere! okay I'll stop ranting :P
@dboysify
@dboysify 7 месяцев назад
can you show me the quality in 16:9 ratio...??
@Altcine
@Altcine 7 месяцев назад
If I remember rightly this will Al be 16:9 ratio as I shot them in 1080p. I only use different aspect ratios when doing higher resolution.
@dboysify
@dboysify 7 месяцев назад
@@Altcine oh ok..im a newbie on this...just want to see it cover the reguler youtube screen...
@Altcine
@Altcine 7 месяцев назад
Ahhh ok, I've often been criticised for my use of black bars 😅 I know I have to stop doing that lol
@EckySeptarony
@EckySeptarony 7 месяцев назад
Does anyone got err70?
@Altcine
@Altcine 6 месяцев назад
What's this?
@EckySeptarony
@EckySeptarony 5 месяцев назад
@@Altcine i bought used 700d and after a week, its show an error 70 when i use usb cable to tranfer data... so i never use it again... but recently when i switch from movie mode to picture mode or vice versa, i got error 30... And now i so scared to turn it back to picture mode... and always turn on stright to movie mode
@les8518
@les8518 3 месяца назад
I love my 650d. Would not part with it. Thank you.
@At_r34
@At_r34 Год назад
Hiiiiiii
@Altcine
@Altcine Год назад
Helloooo
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