I'm a long time late here, but after trading in my sturdy and reliable 7D, my 7D Mk II just came today. Really looking forward to giving it a good workout. Along with my 1DX Mk III and 20D (not to mention my beloved original 300D that I've had for just about 20 years), plus some reasonably good glass, I'm really happy with my current kit. Since what I have will more than meet my needs for the indefinite future, I'm not concerned with moving to mirrorless.
@@The_Algorithm_ I love it! The pairing of that body (which is built like a tank) and the 24-105 lens is fantastic. When I go birding, I put my 100-400 on that camera and my Sigma 150-600C on the 1DX and things are in great shape.
Fantastic review Chris & Jordan. You two continue to push the boundaries of what it is to make quality, unbiased reviews, something that is often missing on youtube. Keep up the good work. Chris Winter
One note about the 1080p/60 mode you would have mentioned is it has limitations. You do NOT get the on-sensor phase detect AF, nor can you record in ALL-I. Pretty annoying for someone like me who likes 60 fps video, but it's a good camera so far (for me) so I won't complain too much.
Jordan how did you keep focus when using the Ronin on that first shot? Did you just keep a deep enough aperture (lets say 5.6) and keep a certain distance from Chris?
Chris Winter By the way, thanks Chris. I performed a no-no. I commented well before finishing the whole video...where he mentions the same thing. :) Thanks again.
A big part of the appeal of this camera are the great lenses that work so well with it, particularly the new 100-400mm II. It's an exceptional package. For pros, the combo of one of the 5D variants + 7DII will be a pretty compelling package. The 7D adds capability rather than just being a backup.
You have most beautiful looking video in months and guess what, it is done with 7D Mark II and you are actually talking about average image quality. Really guys? Please do not shoot some underexposed black object and than add +5EV in post to prove us how D3300 has better image quality. Why don't you go outside and take some three-dimensional color photos of something simple, like grass or sky and than try to show us how 7D Mark II has worse image quality than Nikon D3300. If you can. Also, just use that 70-200 at f2.8, please, do not be afraid. I am also surprised to hear comment about size and shape of the 7D grip. Still, amazing review, very informative, done with lot of effort and overall great production (not only because using Ronin). Well done!
TheCameraStoreTV Jordan, but you have used those cameras during a review. I agree with Branko here. I don't get the criticism when it is clearly your best looking work.
ejbernal2 I like the compositions and a few of the shots in the review, but when editing I was constantly fighting the soft image and low dynamic range. It's subjective, but I think the X100T, Sigma Quattro, D750 and Phantom 2 videos look much nicer. But I'm glad that everyone likes how this episode turned out! Jordan @ TCSTV
TheCameraStoreTV You just can't ignore colors that Canon camera produce. It is subjective, but everybody agrees about that. Immediately after I hit playback of this video I saw something better, more pleasant and then Chris said that you are using 7D2 for filming. Yes, dynamic range is not good on Canon DSLRs but it's not like it is much better on similar (DSLR) cameras. And second part of the problem and probably bigger regardless dynamic range is h264 compression combined with 4:2:0 which makes any color/exposure correction very hard. I am not defending Canon, I am just saying. But I have to defend Canon about "soft image." There are to many cameras with over sharpened videos that just are not pleasant. You have to remember that sharpness of digital sensors is big problem in movie industry. They just want image with less sharpness. If you use three digit ISOs you can make Canon DSLR footage sharp in post and it is not like every second you need amazing dynamic range, but it is very hard to replicate colors of Canon cameras and with compressed footage almost impossible.
I sorry but recovery in post when things go wrong matters. Also I don't know why everyone is saying this video looks good. Blow highlights everywhere with poor rolloff. While I think sometimes other videos on this channel come across a little to flat, this is the horrible opposite extreme.
im looking for a good autofocus and the 7d Mk 2 is very appealing to me especially with the 10 fps cont. shooting, however your analysis on the low picture quality has turned me off a bit. is there a better Nikon alternative in the same price range? I like shooting sports and wildlife with compromising the image quality.
I purchased my first DSLR, a Pentax K-30, for a trip to Antarctica. I LOVE this sturdy camera and the wildlife photos I was able to take as a total rookie. However, I've reached its limits (especially when photographing birds) and want to move up. Here is my dilemma: Do I sell my K-30 body and buy a K-3 now (only a few hundred $ out of pocket), keeping my existing lenses _or_ do I save my $ for another year until I can finally buy into Canon's universe of lenses with the 7D Mark II? I guess what I am asking (being the impatient sort ), what features, beyond lens selection and availability, are significantly superior on the Canon 7D Mark II vs the Pentax K-3? Also, does Nikon have something in the pipes for wildlife photographers?
Aside from the more complete system, the 7D MK II has significantly better autofocus tracking and video quality. For my money, they K-3 has better image quality though. Jordan @ TCSTV
***** I don't think Pentax ever made an action camera that competed with something like the Canon 7D series or Nikon D300s. Pentax looks like it's really aiming at the Medium Format field and is looking to make Medium Format photography more affordable.
Thanks for all the comments gang. In the end I caved to my techno-lust, sold my K-30 and added a few hundred for the K-3. Love it! But do wish I had access to all the rental lenses in the Canon/Nikon world. May end up going multi-brand one day.
So far, I would say yes. It's really knocking on the door of a 5D3 with some of its capabilities, but not quite there yet. Skin tones look amazing and accurate while the noise performance can work in most wedding environments. The honest truth is that at 10fps, I shot an event and let it do a 2-3 image burst for many shots - especially speaking people. You get home and throw them on the computer and see that one of the burst shots looks great and the others may have them with a weird expression or blinking. I see this as a real work benefit that surpasses the 5D3 for shooting an event/wedding. It it capable of possibly capturing a particular moment better.
BRENNAN'S TECH BITE Yes, if you buy 7D for sports and wildlife it will be very good for portraits and weddings, but 6D and 5D will be better. If you buy 6D or 5D for portraits and weddings, they can still take sport and wildlife photographs, but 7D will be better the more and faster the subject moves or the smaller or farther away the wildlife is.
Hi Guys, Nice review. Not big on DSLR filmmaking ,but yes for stills. The 7d Mark II looks good and has some nice features. I shot the TV series "Bluff" in Calgary with a 5d Mark III. At first, I was hesitant, but loved the way it held up under low light conditions. Images were very clear and holds up in a larger format. The 7d Mark II as well as most of the Canons are great for TV. In terms of filmmaking, after seeing the Nikon's image clarity on your review, I am sold. I would rather get the sharpest image possible and dumb it down in post later or ad a filmic look. I am going to look at more comparisons on here. Keep up the good work!
I am watching the first review of yours and I must say this is the most comprehensive, informative and unbiased review of a camera Ive seen till date! Great going.. I agree with you on the IQ part, I recently upgraded from entry level to mid-range and I switched from a Canon 1100d to a Nikon d5300 just because I wasnt happy with the Canon sensors. Please take note Canon :(
GREAT REVIEW, DO U EDIT YOUR PHOTOS THAT YOU SHOW US IN YOUR REVIEWS ?, I mean do u edit them before you post them or do you leave them stock for the viewer to see ?
Saw your 80D review, I decided to check this old one out. I'm wondering which will be best for video work. The 7D Mk II have more focus points, less moire, better lowlight and a clean HDMI out. The 80D have articulating touch screen useful for focusing, sharper video (from comparisons I've seen) and WiFi which enables monitoring and tap focus pulling with app. Really torn between the two.
Somebody doesn't like convenience . So .... A Touchscreen doesn't help you get quick precise manual focus ? And smooth pull focus So .... Wifi doesn't help get your pics on your site or social media quicker ? So .... Turnable screen doesn't help you get shots that were very difficult w/o ?
Personally I think the word professional applies when we are getting professionally paid for a job, which comes at varying levels of requirements. We use tools that are necessary to achieve the requirements, and convenience and practicality are always welcome.
@@ansari_kabeer even a old 5D (mark 1) is good for streetphotography if your budget is tight, one step up would be a 5d mark 2/3 or a 6D, no need for a powerhouse like the 7dm2 or 1d m3/m4/x they are for workhorses for sports/wildlife
Great job guys! I liked the review. I have one question, is this a good camera for shooting a Wedding? What Canon Camera & Lenses do you guys recommend for shooting/ filming Weddings?
Excellent review. I agree with just about all of it. Question: what hardware are you using to capture your audio. I didnt see any wireless sennheisers or anything so Im thinking an on-camera mic? Its very good audio if it is.
We use Sony UWP-D11 wireless mic systems for audio. You can't see it because it's hidden in a Rode Invisilav under Chris' jacket. Thanks for watching! Jordan @ TCSTV
We ran a single Sony UWP-D11 wireless system into the 7D MK II. To run multiple mics into the 7D MK II you'll need an audio recorder like a Zoom H5, or an XLR adapter like the Beachtek DXA-SLR. Jordan @ TCSTV
lightroom 5 is your friend when it comes to this camera, I totally agree with what you called "softness" which I consider out of focus, I have tested mine with a 300mm prime lens from Canon and I have had to take several images of the same subject in order to get a dead on sharp picture (shooting Raw). The landscape pictures I have taken with other canon lens also come out soft...but then again I'm being very critical and pixel diving on a 1:1 and even 1:2 ratio.
Hello all, I was hoping you could recommend a camera for me. Im planning on shooting mainly wildlife, landscape, macro, and some indoor/night photography. I'll also be taking the camera on vacations , trips and shooting family and friends. Video is not as important to me since I have a GoPro for that, but I would certainly like to be able to shoot with these cameras as well. I can't decide between the d7200, 7d mark ii, and sony a7 ii. Which of the three would you recommend for what Im planning on shooting? If there is a better alternative than the three I listed above please let me know. Keep up the reviews I really enjoy watching them!
I want to start getting into videography and am currently doing some research on what camera I should buy. I want to make car videos which would be composed of a lot of in car perspective shots as well as exterior tracking shots. It would primarily be filmed in daylight and include a lot of wide scenery clips, but I would still like to have a camera with lowlight capability. Any advice on a what camera I should get. It's a bit overwhelming right now as this kind of thing is a bit foreign to me. I'm currently looking at the the A7s and the Canon 60D and 70D. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Wow that is really good 720p video. Oh wait! That is 1080p. With 4K cameras now this just isn't going to cut it for video. The AF looks really good but the final product just isn't there.
As usual guys, phenomenal review. On another note, can you guys review the Sony A77II. It seems like a pretty compelling camera from the spec sheet alone, but from what Ive been able to gather it somehow disappoints.
Jordan brilliant review was looking at purchasing the 7d i have Sony alpha camera at the moment and have no idea on the lenses to buy with the 7d. what lens was used to take the rugby pictures? Pls Help, i will be using to take rugby shots as well as family days out. Cheers Also this looks like the best DSLR for the money?
really a very good review on DSLR. I already using canon 700D and thinking about to upgrade it and it pretty detailed and helpful review. Thank you so much for doing this. And keep up helping.
I still have my 7DII 4 years on and its been saturated with rain, salt spray, had a rough life in Aussie heat and cold yet still produces the goods. Yes the images can be soft in crap lighting but a little basic editing in lightroom and its fine. Its been a great partner to my 5DIII and as Im hearing there will be no 7D3 I think I will hang onto it. I've seen images in print taken by both the 7DII and the D500 and to be honest cant pick which camera took what, a lot has to do with the photographer and their editing skills, I will say that its a workhorse, not perfect but certainly never lets me down
I got the 7D2 because it addressed specific issues I had with the 7D. Although I have used it for night photography, the main reason was for wildlife/bird photography. The almost silent shutter of the 7D2 has afforded me excellent '2nd' photos when the loud 7D shutter would have scared off the subject. As for the CR2/Raw files being soft: Well,with every variety of camera I personally have used I have had to do sharpening. Not a lot, but it seems to be the nature of the digital beast. I like pairing it with my L 100-400, or Sigma 150-500.
Hi Guys, When you get a chance to do a compare video please do a Samsung NX1 vs the Canon 7D2. I'm a Canon user but I've never been temped to buy another camera system until I took a look at the specs of the NX1. Head to head... who wins!
Hi Do you guys recommend this as a allround camera? I have 7d and i like about the bigger body and handling...i do all kind of photographing, from sport to portraits......this is much cheaper than 5d 3.
Appreciate your to-the-point comments on the 7D MKII sensor. If the Sony APS-C 24mp sensor was in it it could be worth $1800. With the Canon sensor-I say $1200 max.
Hey guys, I'm having a hard time choosing between something else... Nikon or Canon? I already have some cameras in my mind depending on which brand I choose; like the Nikon D610 or D7100 or either this Canon or the Canon 70D would do. So please, could you answer that question (just if there's an actual answer)? Thanks in advance, guys.
Canon 7D mark II or Nikon D7200? Which one should I buy? I would like to buy a camera for my personal purposes and which has all round ability.. Image quality is something important to me.. Please suggest..
Things like the MP count (20.2) is a basic statistic and can be found anywhere, and it doesn't shoot 4K. I don't think there is a traditional DSLR that shoots 4K. Yet.
I heard somewhere that the Canon 7D's '1080p' is soft because it's up-scaled internally because of line-skipping. Could it be something similar with the 7Dmk2?
Hi Chris. I would like to see your thoughts on the Sony A77m2. I have one and the focusing tracking is awesome! I had the old Canon 7D but I sold it and got the Sony and have no regrets.
Depends if the car is moving or parked. If you want to get a car moving 7d. The speed and autofocus is great. If you are just taking stationary photos of a car the 6d's full frame would be nice
Hi I have got canon 7d ii and can't make it work for sharp continues tracking photos. What settings do you actually have if you shoot sport or wild life as when I use it I have 2 out of 10 photos sharp . Where my Sony a7r II can track perfectly... thanks
Every camera has trade offs. For example, sure the Nikon D3300 has 4 extra megapixels but the 7D Mark ll has double the burst rate and get usable shots until ISO 12800. Maybe.
"The metering is very Canon" ..... clearly you weren't shooting in Manual mode then since on the 7DII the light meter disappears from the top LCD altogether and in the viewfinder it moves from the bottom to up the right hand edge. Anything but "very Canon" and for me who also uses a 5DIII it is friggin annoying!
Nice review - tempted to get one for its weather sealed capability and autofocus. I can skip a generation though and use my 7d/5d2 combo. Or most likely scenario wait till the price crashes over time before I pick one up half price. I'm not an early adopter but good to hear the people who actually bought it, like it from comments so far.
Brian Michael Yep, i think so. Although they both have very similar Dual Pixel Autofocus systems, the 70d does still have an advantage (for video especially), in that it has a touch screen, allowing you to select exactly where you want it to focus, as well as having a swivelling screen which allows you to use it at different heights. Both great cameras though!
How the AF of this camera compares to the nikon d750, I know that is FF. But talking generally about AF through the viewfinder. And the sharpness of the pictures. I have the 70D and I get a lot of soft images even a high shooter speed and single focus.
I haven't tried the 7Dll, but from everything I have heard, your conclusion is the same as mine, i give Canon some credit for the auto focus system, and how the sensor works for live view and video, but this is 2014, and there is no excuse for the entry level Nikon to have better image quality as far as sharpness and dynamic range, there is also no excuse for a lack of a fully articulating touch screen, or wi fi, screw the ruggedness argument, it doesn't hold weight, also the 7Dll is to big and heavy, I am really hoping that Canon will put out something like the new Samsung NX1, and also a full frame version, and I am really hoping that Nikon also does, I switched from Nikon to Canon when I got my 5Dlll, but I have always missed having a Nikon, Nikon is part of me, and I wish they would put the D810 parts in a smaller and lighter camera, even smaller and lighter than the D750, but what I really hope is that Nikon will join the future of cameras, and make a full frame mirrorless like a Sony A7r, but with a fully articulating touch screen, 4k and wifi, and a popup flash, yes I want the ability to have fill flash without carrying around a big speed light like I have to do with my 5Dlll, if Nikon does, I will be happy to go back to Nikon and sell all my Canon gear, but it might be to late for Nikon and Canon, because the new Sony A7ll with 5 Axis IBIS, and the rumored A9 about to come out, and also the Samsung NX1 with a 28mp backlit sensor and 4k, I think Canon and Nikon are about to lose a big part of the camera market, anyway, nice review, I hope you are about to review the new Samsung NX1 and there glass, and the New Sony A7 ll
I cant understand why you would review a camera like this taking street shot when the majority of buyers will be shooting wildlife. This is a great camera for that far ahead of it's competition. Go out and shoot something real for a change.. As far as sharpening set your camera up properly plus if you do shoot wildlife get a good L lens you don't have to get a 400 f/4 get a 100 - 400 or a 300mm f/4 that will be in the reach of most people. That's just my two cents ! LOL !
hi, i am just a beginner and i am at the the time when i have to buy my first camera (i did shoot before) and i just wonder if it's better for me to go for it and buy something like 7D or some less expensive stuff like Lumix 7D or Fuji X-T1. What u guys think? maybe u got some suggestions? i will be grateful for any help :)
Nicely done Chris & Jordan. But I do hope Chris will test the AF performance by himself into some sports and fast action photography. But of course, I appreciate Todd Korol's opinion about its AF performance. :) Cheers
Wow, after watching your reviews filmed on GH4, fz1000, LX100 i thought a lot of the static shots were actually out of focus they were so soft. I agree with the ending of the video that it does seem weird that canon seems to lagging behind on IQ.
What do you guys process the RAW images with? If you're using Canon's Digital Photo Professional then you're wasting your time. I keep reading or seeing videos claiming Canon RAW files are not too good (poor for recovering highlight or shadow detail). This is absolute nonsense. Use the current version of Capture One Pro and you'll find you get great recovery at both ends. I'm often amazed at how an almost flat white sky turns into a blue sky with well-defined clouds after sliding the Highlight Recovery slider.
Hey guys would love your help am looking for a decent camera and bird lens. Can't decide between a few . Am curious at new 7d mark 2 with either canon 300f4 with tele 1.4 . Or maybe the newer 100-400 canon. Or the cheaper Nikon d7100 with the newer 80 -400 lens. Combo please help obviously the better length is best for birds. Anyone got any idea or what they use ? The 7d mark 2 looks like a great ad sty stem. And decent buffer.
What AF settings were used on the Rugby series, specifically Case number, tracking sensitivity, Accel./decel. tracking and AF pt switching? I am new to Canon, I have set the camera similar to my Nikon, any help would be appreciated.
Tony Barrett I used "Case 3" in the AF menu. I set the camera to focus with the back AF button. I used the selectable AF 9 points, and used the centre AF spot, expanded by one, so the surrounding 4 spots were live as well. AF was set to AI Servo and the motor drive was set to high (10 fps). I shot that sequence with a Canon EF 400mm F2.8L IS II USM lens. The images were shot on Auto ISO in AV Auto mode F/4, with the range that the shutter speed could not go below 1/1000 of a sec.
Todd, Thanks for the reply, as I said I am new to the Canon line. I use back focus too, I haven't tried Case 3, I have been using Case 1 and Case 4, AF pt on the 4 and 8 plus the center. Have you adjusted the tracking or other settings available in the Case settings? I have shot 7 football games since I got it, I used it this past Saturday to shoot the OSU game for the first time, I used TV mode and Auto ISO, shutter speed 1/1250 - 1/1600, eval metering. Overall I am happy with it, I still have some focus problems but that could be me more than the camera. Thanks again, Tony Barrett
+Klausjp Lamers This was mostly shot with the Canon 16-35 F4 L (great lens!) and the Sigma 50mm F1.4. We just used the 40mm STM for the AF test. It focuses better than the L lenses in video mode. Jordan @ TCSTV
i just baught my first camera i concider good. a 70d. was as much as i could afford with 2 good canon lenses, a macro and telephoto. soo excited. but the video editing seams really freaking expensive to get into, why do i have to pay adobe 40$ a month just to video edit, IS stupid. What i dont like about the mark2 is you cant pivot and move the lcd, the 70d was suppose to get a firmware upgrade to let the wifi and video funcion to work. i dont know if that was ever released.
