I'm sure I'll end up buying the R5 mk2 because it sounds like it'd going to be a very good camera. i've been able to hold the R5 and to use it for a few minutes. there were 2 issues - first, I very quickly lost track of the number of photo's i'd taken. i later found out i'd taken 5000 and it was down to me being inexperienced using an electronic shutter. the second issue related to the size of the camera. With massive paw shaped hands, handling the R5 was awkward at best. not sure how I'll get round that one. might need to permanently attach the battery grip accessory. Why does the 'miniaturisation' of electronics mean the miniaturisation of the end product? Ok, there's a financial issue but really.......... !