CANON R6 MARK II vs A7IV, X-H2S & R5 for VIDEO | Which one should you buy? 

xh2s - pro res raw internal. #bump!

but it lag behind in low light and autofocus so not the best

Thanks a lot Carlos. I think for photography the af is great. It even ha touch tracking there :-) Merry Christmas as well. I appreciate your comment.

Interesting, what was the main reason you switched back?

@@pascalbasel this is a hobby for for both stills and video and overall i feel very comfortable using the Canons. Everything makes sense to me and my memory. It feels better in the hands and with limited RF lenses I can still cover 95% of my needs. One thing that drove me crazzy with Sony was that the C custom modes would remember the last setting that was changed even after power down/up. You would need to rotate the dial from lets say C1 to C2 and back to C1 to truly go back to what C1 was set for. Because I mostly use custom modes and different cameras i would always rotate the C dial after power up.

I mean both of them get blown out by Sony a7siii and Sony A1. R5 rolling shutters is terrible plus only Sony a7iv high end camera suffers from that. tried the R5 and orignal r6 and got back immediately to a7siii and A1. main reason was colors and image quality. Video quality on a7siii is like literally top gun maverick Sony Venice. You need edit lot more to come close to Sony Venice.

@@tekguyphoto interesting. What was your observation re Skin Tones comparing the Sony with the R6 II? Is Theresa consistent difference?

@@tekguyphoto totally agree i'm on the fence with sony a7iv and r6ii and leaning towards canon now. sony system is just difficult to understand. the menu system is too overwhelming for me. canon's user interface is just so easy to use.

I was torn between the two cameras and lens selection was a factor. The EF lens selection ended up being better than Sony so that's the direction I went. Plus the RF adapter with built in ND filter adds an interesting advantage.

The video quality of this camera is probably the best of all mirrorless ones.

Same situation. Just bought the Mark II today. Not sure if it was the right call... I'm not technical by any means but here were my reasons not to buy A7IV - 1.5 crop on 4k 60 fps shots (if my iPhone doesn't have a crop why should my $4k CAD camera have one?) - Bad rolling shutter - Digital video look (not as cinematic) - Overheating issues That's my reasoning... seems like Canon fixed a lot of the problems from the original Mark I on this version... curious to hear others opinions

And good job i like your videos, good luck 👊🏻

I had lots of issues with audio not recording on the X-H2S. Always thought it's a mic issue as I got a new one but now realized it was the camera.

Were you testing 200mm Fuji vs. 300mm Canon/Sony?

Which fuji? What focal length?

No. But the RAW can be manipulated as you wish. SOOC look is individual to each generation and camera manufacturer. I have Fuji but I like all these cameras SOOC output.

FX30 is the best value (and generally one of the best) cameras one can get right now.

I honestly think the X-H2S is the most interesting with the stacked sensor. Having that technology gives Fuji more potential to improve the camera. But then it’s up to Fuji to make use of that technology.

@@ghas4151 Very true. I'm still deciding if I keep one X-H2S body to see what Fuji comes up with. Excellent camera overall.

@Sophie LANTERI Photo and video dynamic range is different. They are not directly comparable. Video dynamic range involves using of log curves so those play a part as well. X-H2S: Total detected 14.6 stops, 11.8 (SNR2) -> Denoise in post 14.3 R5C: Total detected 13.4 stops, 12.2 (SNR2) R6ii: Total detected is ONLY 12.2 stops. 11.1 (SNR2) So no matter what you do, even with perfect lighting/denoising, the Canon will still perform worse than the X-H2S or A7iv by 2 stops. Also if you're quoting photons to photos, do take note that Canon values are all measured with Noise Reduction ON (look for the triangle pointing down - which means the true dynamic range is much lower). I haven't tried the R6ii or R5, but if you can't turn off NR that's a dealbreaker. Seems like Canon only allows low-medium-high?

@Sophie LANTERI You can check Gerald Undone or CineD. They usually do DR tests with Imatest Xyla21 charts. Just take note that their results cannot be directly compared against each other as there might be slight user error in their tests methods. But it's good to compare and see how accurate things are. FX30 is quite good, it's roughly 11.4 stops of DR, with some noise reduction it probably goes up to 12+.

@Sophie LANTERI Yes, Canon cameras are the easiest to use. I like their interface.

Thanks for clarifying in the beginning. It’s easy to get comments wrong. I actually sold the ZV-E10 last year after only 3 weeks because the rolling shutter looked bad at every so small camera move. I also remember back in the days when I shot Panasonic, that I never liked the footage from other people shooting Sony etc. mainly because of the rolling shutter (back then I didn’t even know the word rolling shutter but I noticed it. It’s true that in most shots it’s not visible on the a7iv but it is important to know. That’s also why I say at the end that the differences are minor. No camera really stands outs in either positive or negative way.

@@pascalbasel 💎💎💎💎 Top man

Interesting. For me fuji colors are #1, canon 2 and Nikon 3. What about Nikon colors do you prefer? I as because I am considering a z8. =) I don’t care for Sony at all.

@@BoiseTDI Sony A1 and later have far better color science. Nikon tends to add a tad more saturation and contrast and I prefer their blue/green/red rendering… just closer to what I normally do in post. Sony is actually the closest to real life to me… but that’s not what I tend to prefer in photographs lol.

The Fuji is better

@@Yupthereitism nope, sorry but de fuji's AF, tracking, the dynamic range is worse than the R6 Mark II. I like the fuji on vídeo and zooms but i need the most powerfull AF

@@almancorpa1048 Sony has the most powerful video autofocus and equal still autofocus to canon. Fuji has the best video dynamic range and very good stills autofocus. You should just use the gear you have because no one company is the best at everything. Fuji is also way lighter and more affordable than canon with third party lenses for BETTER video.

I am tired of things breaking on my Fuji ,so looking to sell and move to canon

I just bought a second hand Fuji Xh2s for a test and now I'm thinking about switching back to Canon EOS R6II🥲

It doesn’t really matter

I'd love to but I don't have the XH2S anymore.

Gimme xh2s any time. Sony shooter here.

@@alkathorat2859 Gimme all of them! Really, give them to me as presents. And I'll also need some lenses.😎

The canon shoots in 8bit

Yes

I got the 50mm 1.8 but only to make thumbnails etc. The af is super slow, not good for video. But image quality is good enough for social media. I hope they bring some affordable 1.4 primes soon with a bit higher quality.

They are kind of shitty for video

I know I'm a bit late to comment but: the RF 35mm f/1.8 is an excellent lens. It's sharp, AF works well and it has image stabilisation which helps the handheld shots by a lot. In my previous company, it was the main lens we used for videography.

Thanks again bro. Yeah, Canon has to open their mount to stay big.

To be fair EF lenses adapt perfectly to the RF mount. So from that perspective. Canon has a ton of lenses to choose from. While not the same as newer modern lenses I also have found in the past 3rd party lenses to be a bit hit or miss in terms of quality control and electronic control. For those that want to get the most out of the AF and stabilization it is sometimes better to avoid 3rd party lenses. Especially in video applications where both need to be continuous and consistent.

@@digitaldevigner4080 I use EF polarizing filters mount adapter. pretty nice bonus. or get ND filters. "older" EF lenses are a good deal.

@Sophie LANTERI no, Sony ef is far superior to canon rf.

No, for that I'd use Fujifilm.

Thanks @@pascalbasel

I would like to see more camera reviewers talking about HDR, it always feels glossed over. But I guess the majority of camerawork is still in sdr so it makes sense

I kept all cameras at standard to give a fair comparison. However, from my experience with the X-H2S it’s sometimes smooth and sometimes jumpy even at the slowest settings. Quite random.

@@pascalbasel I use X-H2 and from my experience every lens is different. Thank you anyway for high quality videos! 👍

My bank account says it doesn't compare ;-)

Fuji colors are not dark, I color grade because I like the look of it.

They were made in factories.

@@pascalbasel obviously i mean which country but anyway, thnx

Thanks for the info about the Sigma lens. Been looking for a faster 50mm prime. I didn’t test it with 4K60 as everyone seems to get about 40mins out of it and I think that’s more than enough in 60P. Clog2 would be great.

No, pretty much everything you said is wrong.

Video and photo dynamic range operate differently. One thing though, is that the R6ii and R5(C) both have less dynamic range than the Fuji XH2S (according to Gerald Undone's tests). The R5C scores higher when shooting RAW but for regular internal recording it seems to do worse? The X-H2S has almost 2 stops more DR than the R5C. And this is backed up by cammackey's video too ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-x3-RJWQkaUY.html Fuji XH2S has the sharpening toned down a lot compared to the previous generation. Sony well, it's a Sony. It's always going to be oversharpened. Fuji has no crop at all in 4k60 too. Or do you shoot a lot of 4k120? The Sony 4k60 crop is a dealbreaker, agreed. These video imo showcases what real talented colour grading on Fuji is like ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qdytGXSKVls.html ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-1vn2OOTkEKU.html None of the cheap purchased lutpack look. They don't look oversharpened at all. It's all about the lens and grading. Is the full frame look really advantageous? I find that for video it gets too distracting when the background is blasted into oblivion with fast lenses. I've seen a few local dramas where some talking head shots were done probably at 135mm f/1.8 or 85mm f/1.2 wide open and I don't know why they bothered set dressing or renting locations when it could have been green screened in a small studio. All the new high end cameras are S35. RED's new sensor is S35. ARRI's new sensor is also S35. Having to stop down for more DOF requires more powerful lights too. Doesn't seem too useful to me... Even when I was using the A7S2 with a 24-70GM I was mostly shooting f/4 or f/5.6. I like full frame for stills, but for video I find the lack of DOF is really annoying for storytelling. As for sensor readout, BSI has nothing to do with readout speed iirc. BSI is simply the superior method of making a sensor that increases dynamic range with better light gathering. Sensor readout speed is based on the underlying circuity and architecture. Idk why but Photons To Photos only show R5 results with noise reduction baked in. But if that can be disabled, it likely won't be much different than the A7R5. Is NR permanently enabled on Canon?

beautiful language expression "Fuji... it also has some sort of really oversharpened look to the files that is more like old "video" than film.."

ohh an r5 RAW internal video. canon r5.

Anyone who wants can make lenses for E mount. With Canon you're locked to whatever Canon thinks you might want, for an egregious price.

@@r4yker442 that's why I am saying, there are still lens made by anyone for EF mounts. And besides that, unless it's your first time using a canon with RF mount. Most canon users are upgrading and are not going to ignore their EF lens for a RF lens even if third parties make them. Unless they don't have that focal length and there is a need to buy it. It's a disadvantage for those switching to canon.

Adapting lenses sucks. It just long and front heavy.

@@pascalbasel yes.

You’re talking about photo, I talk about video. Not possible there and it’s still more than one button click.

True, I was also a bit surprised on the R5.

R5 has terrible rolling shutter still but way better than eos r.

@@pascalbasel Sensor readout speed determines rolling shutter Sensor + CPU (strength and optimisation of both) determines DR

@@alkathorat2859 not as terrible as sony's a7r series

Works great for me, they just need to get rid of the stepping.

I would say something similar about my A7iv after shooting stills of people running and getting only 30% of properly focused pictures.

@@benoittissier58 I have an A7iv as well and the Focus is amazing! Nikon was blah! Not sure why you would only get 30%.. I really want to get a Fuji xh2, but the autofocus is not sony level, everyone would agree to that who has shot both systems, and it is hard to go backwards and spend 2000 dollars for an APSC and have less autofocus on a full frame you know what I mean...

sorry, less autofocus and not full frame, seems like a big downgrade..

C'mon 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 bullsheet

I’ve been shooting with the xt2 for video and a 6d for photo. Idk what to do lmao I think the r6ii idk why.

Should probably be the other way. XH2s is a way better camera overall. Much better dynamic range (not slight like Pascal claimed here, at least a stop and half better), less rolling shutter and high fps because of stacked sensor, all intra codecs and internal prores, opengate 3:2 6k mode. Image quality wise it stacks up well against cinema cameras minus the ports. It is unfair for R6 to be even compared to XH2s. For context, I am a narrative filmmaker and own FX3 and RED Komodo. Previously owned a Canon C70. And after testing XH2s from a friend, I'm ordering one for myself. Pascal's R6 footage looks crushed, I donno what he means by "I have never been in a situation where I needed more dynamic range than that". Our phones today can get more dynamic range with hdr processing than R6 can. Even R5 and R5C aren't good in that aspect. C70 is the way to go if one cant switch systems from Canon.

@@BalaKrishna-bq5izwhich is your experience with H2s?

Not lighting, I set the color space wrong in Resolve.