I'm more interested in a Canoo truck than I am anything else on the horizon. If I could get a crew cab version with 4 doors, that would be ideal. Otherwise, the Ford Lightning is also looking likely.
I have been trying to get somebody with Canoo to actually take my ideas serious. I am a truck guy and have been for years. I know how truck people think and how we use our trucks. Canoo needs to stretch their skate board out another 12 inches and it would bring them into serious competition with a broad range of truck manufacturers. They need to go from 112 inches up to 124 inches of wheel base. That 1 foot adds more battery space and could allow them to increase the cab size more and still have some pickup box left to start with. I own a 2021 Silverado double cab with a 6.5 foot box. I love that truck but would give it up in a heart beat for the Canoo pickup if they could just change it slightly to get it up into the 1/2 ton range of specs. I don't want a true crew cab for just me but I like a little in cab storage behind the seats to make my truck more usable year round. 124 inch wheel base makes it better for towing stability also. 112 inch wheel base is just to short to even get into the midsized truck realm. It is shorter than a ford ranger or chevy colorado and many others. 124 inch wheel base would fix it for many people and many reasons. 😁
@@desertdan100 i completely agree, however they have to prove themselves with their base models before they expand into territory that competes with a traditional pickup truck. If they can pull off just getting production off the ground and fulfill contract orders while selling civilian vehicles that will give them the pulse to find a niche in the ev market. I feel their initial concepts were striking enough to get me, an old petrol head, to get excited. I hope they can get production into hyperdrive. I have 4000 shares, so I want to see them succeed.
@@theshapeexists I also have shares in them. I am selfish I guess. I saw the truck and fell in love. I am an older jeep guy who has a soft spot for the old FC Jeeps and Econoline vans. Their mini van is a brilliant idea for many use cases. The range is a little low but for around town and a big city use it would be great. For a mail delivery route or similar small package route it would be awesome. Right now though, the first workable electric trucks to market from anyone in any amount are going to make a killing. Notice I said workable. IE usable and practical. I kept telling everyone I know that the Ford Maverick was going to be a hit for that niche that has been way underserved for years. Canoo could be the first manufacturer to hit that sweet spot that the first Dodge Dakotas hit many years ago. I bought one of the first ones that were sold in my area in the Midwest. A was farming at that time and caught hell from everyone that new me for about 6 months. As they learned more about it and saw what I could do with it attitudes changed. I was using a smaller truck that could do everything a 1/2 ton truck could do but got way better gas mileage and was cheaper to maintain. It had a 2500 lb payload and could tow around 6000 to 7000 lbs. one day I hauled 36 bundles of asphalt shingles back home to re-roof my building and a neighbor stopped by. He could not believe it. The truck was squatting but I still had an 1.5 inches to the axle bumpers going down the road. 🙂
Excellent video. Glad yer feeling better. Ford Transit Custom is apparently coming to the U.S. with an electric option soon to follow. Be interested to see that. Canoo's still the obvious frontrunner for me. I'll be crushed if I can't fit my bike in the back though. I really want to like the Xbus but it's numbers put it squarely in the "expensive toy" category.
Chad! Thanks so much my man, feeling better for sure. I'll have to look into the Transit as I don't know much about it. I also echo your thought about the Xbus, yea, it's pretty awesome... but you nailed it, expensive toy for sure as there's no way it can serve as your only vehicle.
Forty plus years ago we had a VW Vanagon that we really liked. The Canoo reminds me of that and that could be a deciding factor when I buy my next vehicle. I'm also looking at the Solterra or a EX30 or an Equinox EV. All this to replace my Forester which I really like. For sure, I will be looking for something that can carry my kayak.
If I could afford it, I'd go for a Rivian. But I love the look, design philosophy, and the price of the Canoo offerings. I hope they can make it, I want it to be my first EV.
3 of the engineers I work with have rising pickups. Insane power and torque. It will outpull a massive diesel and accelerates like it doesn't have a load even when pulling a huge trailer.
Thank you. Huge fan. Canoo pickup WILL BE my next truck. My GMC Sierra has 110K, I am retired and have patience. The only competition for me is/was the Alpha Wolf. I thought it was dead two years ago but they seem to have been granted patents etc... Cool little pick-up but still do not really believe it is real. Alpha Wolf choice #2. GOEV, Go Canoo!
You've got good taste Dennis, what can i say... I also love the Apha Wolf, but very much doubt that it'll ever make it close to production, which is too bad... all the other electric trucks on the market are maaaaaaaasive.. we need mini trucks!
@@GearboxPizza I have gone from a Chevy LUV (Izuzu) through S10 etc... to my Sierra. I cannot even reach the bed over the sides because it is so massive. WAY more than I need. Canoo: Footprint of a Prius, carrying capacity of a 1500. Love the concept.
Great video. Canoo has my $100, for the adventure van. However, Aptera has my attention. Cool looking and great range. Canoo is a bit more practical, but sometimes I am not too practical! The X Bus is the only other vehicle with my interest. Again, great video, keep them coming.
Thanks Jim! I'm sort of in the same boat.. The Adventure van, if I can get one, might be on top, and the Aptera might actually compliment it well.. those two, side by side in my garage.. yea, that'll do!
Here's my situation... I currently have orders with dealers for: - 2023 Ford Lighting - 2023 Hyundai Kona EV They were placed 9 and 5 months ago respectively, but neither have seen any progress (which is why I have both orders, kind of a game of wait and see...) The F150 ticks boxes for me because there weren't really any larger EV SUVs on the market in 2021/22 when we started looking at EVs which could fill the role that my Kia Sorento currently does in terms of internal space and towing. I would certainly consider an EV minivan (or similar) but there really haven't been any decent options. I used to own a Honda Odyssey and loved it for the build quality, the drive, and the space. The Chrysler Pacifica is a non-starter for me as my extended family had a few Chrysler vehicles over the years and the were sadly the least reliable cars and vans anyone drove. So that leaves ... not a lot. Here are other vehicles I'm also following while waiting on the two orders above... - Canoooooooo (duh) - Rivian R1S / R1T (love them, but too expensive in Canada) - VW ID.4 (almost as big as the Sorento, plus can tow with top package, reasonably priced) - VW ID.Buzz (love the fresh look, but from early reviews this seems like it would be better to wait until they work out some of the bugs) - Volvo EX90 (just announced, but don't have pricing info yet - but based on the XC40 Recharge pricing vs. the regular 40, I presume the EX90 will nudge the $100K mark in Canada) This list runs the spectrum, but given the fact that auto makers are finally starting to fulfill orders and it seems the EV landscape is bringing more options to market, I'm excited to see what is announced in the next two years to hit the streets in the next five. Ideally, I'd love a Tacoma EV... it's one of my fave ICE vehicles, but I still find it bizarre that Toyota and Honda have been so slow to offer mainstream EVs.
Christian! Happy New Years my dude! Anyway.. My daily is a Tacoma now, and an EV version would be just awesome, but you're right, both Toyota and Honda somehow didn't see this EV thing coming somehow? Anyway, the Lightning is awesome, not cheap, but awesome and I think your summery on the other options are spot on... Rivian is just way too much cheddar, and I dig the EX90, but fear it'll be way out of my price range. My dream is to have either the Canoo Pickup, or the "Adventure" version of the van with all/4 wheel drive and some offroad chops..
@@GearboxPizza Thanks - and happy 2023 to you as well, glad you're back with a vengeance! Even the Lightning is a massive investment, but it seems that everything I'm considering is north of $75K. 😭 It's crazy to see EV versions being nearly double their ICE counterparts. I just wish companies would announce the stuff that I want so I could make an informed decision on my vehicle future. Is that too much to ask?!
Yea. you're totally right... If you think about it, this might be one of the most confusing times to try to buy a car/truck/suv for all the reasons you've listed. I turned in my lease about 4 months ago and have been driving the Tacoma daily as I still have no idea what to get... and probably like yourself, I spend way way way way too much time researching and "building" things online. To be honest, I might wait this out for a year or two.. my pal just finished building his 1967 pontiac lemans, and now I'm thinking class muscle car while the market stabilizes.. ahh, who knows.. I change my mind twice a day at least. But I'd buy the Canoo Pickup in a hearbeat right now.. even at a premium.
@@GearboxPizza lol, like my Kona EV order, it almost feels like a game of "Order everything, see which ships first." (So long as there's no commitment!)
Originally, the Xbus was my van of interest. Then I saw the Canoo, and fell for it. The Mini is also interesting, but if the Xbus isn't coming to the US, my hope is for when my family goes for a replacement for our Kia Soul EV, we go for the Canoo.
Thanks for posting. I'm interested in the Canoo, but some of what makes it unique is breaking the deal for me. The square wheel and the "lounge" area are gimmicky. I would have put a deposit on one if it had more traditional seats and a round steering wheel. I currently have a Transit Connect, but wish it was just a little longer for camping in. Great for hauling my family and luggage. How do you do that with the Canoo? Your cargo would be sliding around in the center. Any cargo is easy to see by thieves sitting in the middle. The price is reasonable compared to the I.D. Buzz, which is what I am looking at, but I want to like the Canoo.
Good comment. I'm also wondering if this will end up being available with a more traditional layout for the back.. I think it's a no brainer personally, but we'll see I suppose.
I’ve got a preorder in for the Canoo truck and the Silverado EV, and am watching with interest the GMC and Ram EV truck news. I doubt I would want a truck with less than a full crew cab though, so I’m hoping Canoo will announce a crew version this year. I noticed Ram kind of taking advantage of its late to market position to stuff their concept truck full of most every idea everyone else has already put forward (love the idea of the pass-thru to the frunk that would let you carry say a 16’ 2x12 out of the way inside the truck). Please give us a true crew cab Canoo.
I'm interested in a small pickup ev, but need 4-5 seats for the family. Mostly waiting for an electric maverick or a cheaper rivian, but hoping canoo has a crew cab truck option.
Broski! Broski? It doesn't matter. It's nice to see you back, mate! The Chrysler Pacifica is made by Chrysler. That's a nail in the coffin for me. The VW is just going to sink in sails, unless some wealthy hipsters decide to buy some. Nothing against VW, but that model simply does not face a chance against a Canoo in an MMA match. Hydrogen, (H) makes cars piss. The expense is large, and it pisses out of the back. So... why do it? I've always said to people to own a bicycle, a petrol auto, an EV, and a hybrid. All bases covered. My recommendation would be looking at Lexus as a hybrid for a future one. Apologies for not being as humorous as I try, but it's been a bad day. You know how to contact me. It wasn't a big issue, so no worries.
Not direct competitors, but top 2, fingers crossed, waiting to make it to production vehicles are canoo pickup and aptera. Whichever is available first I'll grab.
Both rad choices.. I want the pickup bad, and I could see the Aptera parked next to it in the garage. Come to think of it, might just be a solid pairing.
I'm a long time fan of oddball cars. Loved my VW bug back in the day and always wanted an electric VW bus but gotta say not impressed with the buzz. I currently own a Tesla X (we also have a model 3 and a leaf and used to have an i3...been years since we have owned an ICE) and in the market for my next EV either Van or Truck. I have a pre-order on the Cybertruck but honestly loving the look of the canoo much more. Was also interested in the Rivian quite a bit but price kept increasing drastically. What's holding me back on the canoo? The range. pure and simple. and this is coming from a long time EV driver. I had the I3 and we currently have a leaf...so I'm used to low range cars. BUT when I get an adventure vehicle (which is what the next one is for, either truck or adventure van) it needs to actually get me to the far off places! I hike in the mountains A LOT. I need a car that can get me there and not die while I'm out hiking and leave me stranded (I live in New England so we are talking real winters). So if they can fix the range issue - I'm sold for sure!!
I have had a preorder for years on an Atlis truck and still waiting and losing faith in them. I am interested in the new Ram. They are blending some of the features of the Canoo pickup box into the Ram. I am invested in Canoo and think their van is a stroke of genius. I love the truck but it needs some tweaking to bring it up into the realm of midsized or just step into the 1/2 ton truck market with an extended wheel base version and decent tow and payload capacities. It needs to compete with the current Chevy Silverado but does not need to sit as high. The lower load height comparable to a Honda Ridgeline would make it more usable.
pricing in the EU and the UK is always with VAT sales tax included......so prices are always 10-18% higher compared to North America...there's the exchange rate to deal with and the fact that most euro brand cars for the NA market are built in North America to cut down on transport costs
Would LOVE a Canoo.. I can say if they get into production they will have a looooong time of supplying contracts like Walmart etc before they get around to people like us. I got a Lucid for now and am sure it was a good choice. (I got in before the last price increase). I do see a lack of info on the new Lucid Pure that are actually rolling off the assembly line.
@@GearboxPizza Sorry if I wasn't clear.. I got a Lucid Air Pure on the way.. Not here yet.. But Q1 this year is the hope.. Im in San Diego.. Home of the Aptara ! Also home of Doug Demuro lol..
The Ioniq 7 seems like the most legitimate competitor. Hyundai has sort of stolen the EV crown from Tesla in a lot of ways. The Ioniq 5 is just the most cutting-edge while still reasonably affordable thing I know of. And the 7 is gonna have a lot of interior space, and clever design elements, as well as just a bizarre exterior . It's just a concept right now, so there's a few years before it will actually be a thing. Canoo still has the advantage. I really want the Canoo Truck though :D And, right now, there's just nothing that even comes close to what the truck is doing. It's picture perfect everything I want in a vehicle right now.
I like the Canoo as it looks. Very original and I hope that here in Europe we can see some before long. Rivian, Canoo are 2 real competitors for all EV cars / SUV. Living in Europe, I would never buy a German made EV...too expensive and quality is questionable... as always. Korean / Asian will do really well ..your next video on some Asian models...!
Edge case. How about the Morris Commercial JE electric van? As for the ID Buzz. I would think $45-50k is probably correct. UK pricing is super high. Just look at Tesla. Take the price you pay in the USA and then add another 30-35% for the UK price. It's a mix of TAX and companies gouging people who just want the latest thing.
I think the bus does have a chance in the State side! I think if they get the range up to 400 range, and 120mph it will do really well,! I do like the Canoo tho! It's cooler but the BUS looks good too! Honda is just HONDA one of the best production vehicles out there! I think they might wait just a little bit to see what options come out, but if they add a cooler in the Van! Well that's going to be the Best ever Honda yet!
I'm disappointed that Canoo is so eager to shed the image of a minivan that they've gone out of their way to design a really impractical cabin layout which can't really carry people and cargo at the same time. The Mini Urbanaut has the same problem. Both are designed to be lounges on wheels. There may be some demand for that, but not from me.
I'd like to see a single person, possibly 3 wheeled efficient commuter I can drive to work when I'm by myself, which is most of the time. Use my real car for real traveling with the family
Check robovan from tesla announced for 2024. Sorry you don’t like vans. I love them. They are the best option all around if they are nice looking with a good performance and versatile. Toyota sienna only hybrid so far
I’m looking at the Toyota Sienna for price and being a reliable hybrid. My next choice would be something like the Ford Transit or Maverick. If the Canoo really existed at a reasonable price, I’d be all over it. Still, Canoo is just a con, they’ll never build it.
How about a why the Canoo people won’t stop smoking ganja and playing video games, go down on the shop floor and build some Canoos for delivery? Video.
I’m not really sure Canoo has a head start over Tesla. If you haven’t built your factory yet then Canoo is behind as Tesla factory building experience shows their efficiency. Giga Mexico will go up quick, then casting and assembling streamlined before we know it.
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as an avid aficionado of the bizarre (I ride an Electric Unicycle for fun, check my channel for proof), I appreciate the style of the Canoo But as a utilitarian, also like the function of the Canoo. I wanna put this in my garage right next to my (future) Aptera 😉
I put a $100 deposit down for a Canoo pickup truck, BUT my real use of an EV will be V2L... Vehicle to load (house load). I only drive 1k a year BUT I want a battery back up for my Solar install, I think EVs will be the future of home battery back ups..... I could keep driving my Dodge Charger and get a used Tesla and put the Tesla up on cinder blocks as a battery solar battery back up....smile. I am really impressed with the GM ultima battery tech AND GM is going to come out with V2L charger stations.... so I might go with GM. But THE Canoo pickup is so cool looking smile interesting times. My solar contractor gave me a bid of 25k for ONE Tesla battery....
Sadly, if Canoo is successful they will get bought by some mega-corp. If they misstep they will be crushed. I think it is about 50/50 if Canoo exists in 2 years - And I am being optimistic /(.v.)\
@@jimniecurtsinger5361 We'll see when/if they hit the market. On the negative side, not planning to make any deliveries until well past when they run out of money. On the positive, battery tech costs are dropping every day and they constitute they main cost of the vehicle.
The Canoo over the VW for sure! I don’t trust VW quality as everyone I know who owned one, including myself, had problems. We’re looking at the Tesla van also.
SUV'S = Station Wagons --- YUCK. Mini Vans? YEAH. Center Console? YUCK. 3 person front seats? YEAH. 2 box body -- YUCK. One box body.? YEAH. Former owner 55 VW Transporter, 66 Microbus. YEAH. 2WD's fine.
Canoo is still far away from delivering any vehicles. Not so long ago they were almost bankrupt. Untill they ‘ll start producing and delivering to customers, there’s no point of speculating on anything. We’ve seen so many promissing EV car makers vanishing before being able to produce any of them. Wait and see…
