Canyon Endurace 6000km Later | Follow-up Review 

Hope you enjoy yours as much as I do mine. 😀

I was very tempted at one point to use my touring bike for the 600km. My sit bones are like steel but my arms not so much which is why for really long distance or touring I prefer the more upright position. Once I get my fitting checkup to make sure I'm aligned well with the new stem I think I'll be good to go for a while, no 400/600km rides planned this year :)

That is interesting and a bit odd. Yes my bike did come with thru axels. Hope yours arrives soon and you love it as much as I love mine.

Thank you Stuart 🍷

Hi Linda, Sorry for the slow reply I've just seen your question here. My Canyon is woman specific.

I have no regrets with my Canyon, it's been over 2 years now and looking forward to many more miles on it. If I was to upgrade something I would likely look at wheels as they would make the most noticeable difference. The 105 is a great groupset so other than getting Di2 I can't see changing that. You are right about the PR in cycling... I try to keep what I love about cycling in the forefront of my mind when deciding what to spend my money on :) Good luck with your decision!

🙌 Good taste 😁

They used to have testing days in the UK. You can sign up to their newsletter to find out about them.

Bonding with your bike is very important and loving the look of your bike helps 😀 I almost went with all black! 😮

Mine was done at Business as Usual 😀 I swapped out my stem for a shorter one, I have a really short torso. It made a big difference.

Have you tried to fit tires bigger than 700 x 30s?

@@BrwnRc no I haven't, I'm still riding the 28s :(

@@janine565 nice! Been eyeing the endurace and coming from a trek domane sl5 2021. Want something a bit more road riding focused but want clearance for 32-35mm max to do a few gravel races this year hence the question

Hello Kieran! How did it go? I have the same height and 81 cm of inseam. I'm also doubting between these two, inclining more for the S. I'm a guy but looking to order the WMN model because of the less aggressive geometry.

@@sebaslap ended up with a 2nd hand TCR as one popped up in my local area for a great price!

@@kieransweeney6010 Thanks for the quick reply! I hope you end up liking the TCR :)

My pleasure, glad you enjoyed it.

I would have had to add spacers. I have long legs and a smaller frame would have put my saddle higher which would have put me in a more aggressive position with my saddle higher than my handlebars than I currently have. I prefer an upright position ( even more so when on rides over 200km or multli day rides) so to get that I'd have needed more spacers than I had previous to shortening the stem. My first road bike was the same size as my S canyon and when I had it fitted I was told it was the right size. When I had the Canyon fitted I was told the same (even with the longer stem). Hope that wasn't too confusing! 😀 If you need more clarity let me know.

@@OneLessCar Yeah, I can see what you're saying. I sure wish I could talk to you--- I REALLY don't want to make a mistake with the size when order, even tho' the rep has told me twice that if it's not the right size, I can send it back and they would pay the shipping. Well, that's nice of them, HOWEVER, I don't want to have to do that-- I want to get it right the first time!!! And with the shortage of bikes over here, who knows how long it would take to get the replacement? You and I have almost EXACTLY the same measurements of height (168 cm) and inseam-- mine is just 5 mm longer than yours... 82.5! But the rep keeps saying that I should trust the calculator on their website, which says XS. An XS may be perfect for my reach, but on an XS, I'm afraid my knees will hit me in the chin when I pedal! You can only raise the saddle so much to make the bike fit your leg length! If all that isn't confusing enough, this Endurace CF SL Disc 7 is also available with a WOMEN'S specific geometry! I just WISH I could try out the bike like you were able to!!!! Unfortunately, Canyon Bikes are located over 1000 miles away. May I ask you-- how much stand-over clearance do you have over your S? Also, do you recall how much you have the seat raised? I think I'm very fortunate to have run across your video-- what are the chances of finding someone the same size as I am riding the exact bike I'm looking to buy?????

@@SisterBaby My saddle is 72cm from the middle of the bottom bracket. I have plenty of clearance (and I have a bike with very little and this isn't the case with the canyon). The thing I found strange with their online measuring tool (when I ordered my bike) was I could change EVERY other measurment and nothing would happen (except the occasional warning of that doesn't seem right). The only measurement that made any change in recommondations was the leg length. So with that, with the fact that I'd had a bike previously the same size as the S and the fact that I'd had that bike fitted were all confirmation, the S was the one for me. All the test ride did was confirm how small the XS was. The top tube was so low when I stood next to it It was like it was a kids bike. I'd say if you want an aggressive position go for the xs, if you want a more upright one go for the S and adust the stem for the reach.

@@OneLessCar hiya may I know how far in height and inseam you were from that of the actual measurements Canyon recommends for an S? I've ordered an Endurace CF SL 7 too but in 2XS as recommended by Canyon but when I tried my friend's unisex Ultimate in 2XS, the bike feels tiny to me. Granted it's not the same bike but I compared measurements between the Endurace and the Ultimate in 2XS and the Endurace is even smaller. So, now I'm wondering if I should get it in an XS instead. I'm 164cm with an inseam of around 75cm but the recommended measurements for an XS is minimally 166cm. When I increased my height and kept my inseam the same, they then recommended me an XS. So, it seems their measurement system is purely based on height. Shrugs.. really confused.

They put on events through out the year. If you sign up for the newsletter or keep an eye on the events section of the website that's where you can see them.

I'm not sure I can make a whole video on a road tire. However with the help of my new colleague at my new job it might become a possiblity (he's much more educated on this stuff than I am). Stay tuned!

Mudguards aren't a problem. This 400km Audax I rode last year requires them ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-Rp1ktM96gCc.html 😀

I'm not sure of the angle (I'm sure Canyon have it on the geometry chart), I have flipped the stem now so it's no longer slammed and it's the 80mm . Hope that helps! 😃

@@OneLessCar Thanks! I checked the chart and it is 6 degrees if the model is V13. Seems quite relaxed riding position with that setup.

In the UK they have test rides. You can find out about them on the events section of the website (and I think by signing up to the newsletter). After lockdown is over it might be a good idea to message them. Otherwise if you are between sizes I'd take a look at the geometry of the bike and compare it to what you have, if you have a similar type bike already, that could help.

I explained in the original review. You can find it here ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9l6q5GLexYI.html 😊

I think it's a great starting point if you go lower you may find yourself wanting to upgrade sooner. I think the 105 groupset is the sweet spot for value for money and the gear range is great to help your beginner legs get up those hills 🙌

I'm not sure how widly available it is (the black one is sold out as far as I know). This is it in the colour of my orginal one: road.cc/content/review/166553-selle-italia-diva-gel-flow-saddle

None, still using the original.

what size did you end up getting?

I have the same issue as your girlfriend. I'm 164cm but my inseam is 75cm. I compare the geometry of the 2xs to my current bike and the measurements are way off. Which bike did you go for in the end?

Hi. I am 172cm and inseam is 86ish cm....where do you live,can I try your bike? Canyon is recommending me xs aeroad... need help

this might be late but I think the difference is that you have smaller inseam than Michelle, I also have long legs compared to the rest of the body and that makes it so that I need a really high saddle height which, if you have a smaller frame with lower stack, puts you in a more agressive position. I think Canyon sizing works for people with more normal sized legs lol but for us with longer legs getting a bike is a little more difficult, we kinda have to compromise somewhere. In the end it is easier to adjust the reach, by getting a smaller stem, than adjusting the stack of the bike. I'm 1.61m and have 79cm inseam eheh compare that to your measures and you can see how much longer my legs are compared to my body size, Canyon recomends 2XS for me but I'll probably get the XS :)

Thanks Sheila, hope you are well. I'm waiting for when stealth camping will be ok. It's the over night adventures I'm missing right now, especially with all this dry sunny weather.

The Canyon is all matt (frame and all) and always has been, same for the cranks on the Brodie, though it has seen a fair amount of UV ☀️☀️☀️😀

If she is happy with the size of the Giant I would check the geometry chart of the Canyon and compare them to get an idea of how it might compare to what she's used to. That's where I first noticed something seemed off, the bike I currently had, which I'd had fitted was the same as the size S not XS. My fitter had said I had the right size bike. Going to test ride the bike confirmed to me that the xs was very small. I don't like an aggressive riding position and I felt that the xs would mean I'd have to pull the saddle to the max height putting it too high in comparison to the handlebars due to my long legs. With the size S I ordered I switched to an 80mm stem to make up for my short reach. I have normal to longish arms but a short torso so I have a short reach. It's for this reason that one day I look forward to getting a bike custom built for me :)

@@OneLessCar thanks very much for your reply. I sent the MTB size chart to Canyon and they said it varied too much and the angulations were too different for a decent comparison. I bought her a shorter stem on the Fathom as well so that's interesting to know that you switched it. I have sent Canyon some side-on mages of her sat on my turbo whilst upright and reaching forward. Which is a 60.5 top tube (XL) Giant TCR with a 120mm stem LOL. But just to show them that she might need a longer position. I will let you know what they say :)

@@HowayTheMags I'd guess they will just go by their size chart which is online. What I noticed about it when I ordered my bike was I could change the measurements and nothing made any difference as to the size bike it would recommend except for the inseam number.... That's when I lost faith in their sizing.

I'm not sure how widly available it is (the black one is sold out as far as I know). This is it in the colour of my orginal one: road.cc/content/review/166553-selle-italia-diva-gel-flow-saddle

It's been great. 105 is the sweet spot for me of the group sets.

It was more than just height, that I based my decions on (info is in the video at the 05:00 mark) it was my inseam and the fact that the S was the same size as my current road bike wihich I'd had fitted and was told it was a good size for me. The final thing that made the decision was seeing how small the XS was when I test rode the bike.

@@OneLessCar ... may I ask where and when did you do test ride on a Canyon in UK? I need help for test riding an aeroad please.

Thanks Helen, it's from DHB the link is in the description 😀

@@OneLessCar ahh fab thanks I've a few of the jerseys x

You can find out more about the frame size and why I chose the one I did here: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-9l6q5GLexYI.html :D

Those changes were to achieve a more upright position, which I prefer for endurance riding. Had I got the smaller size my saddle in relationships to my handlebars would have had me in an even more aggressive position as it would have been raised higher out of the seat tube to accommodate my 32" inseam. I've also had multiple bike fits and the one I had on my first road bike the fitter advised I could have gone up a size, another factor in my choice.

Indeed you are, a wet 200km at that! 😭

@@OneLessCar why is he?

@@ck21985 We rode Bristol to London together :)