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America is falling behind when it comes to leadership, and it's pretty much directly correlated to how we value people with technical brains. They aren't given enough power, so much of the American way of the last 50 to 60 years or so has been marginalized by middle management types. The reason, Eric Weinstein argues, is that these types don't trust the smarter and more technical minded men and women. One example Weinstein gives is that university presidents 60 years ago might come from a physics or math background-now they're much more likely to be middle management types who have worked their way up the ladder using charm. Weinstein also makes an extremely valid point that technical talent can build a more optimistic future. This was certainly the case in the middle of the 20th century, but has been lost by the wayside. Meanwhile, superpowers like China have the same outlook we used to and are vaulting ahead in the world using the same mindset we used to have.
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ERIC WEINSTEIN:
Eric Weinstein is an American mathematician and economist. He earned his Ph.D in mathematical physics from Harvard University in 1992, is a research fellow at the Mathematical Institute of Oxford University, and is a managing director of Thiel Capital in San Francisco. He has published works and is an expert speaker on a range of topics including economics, immigration, elite labor, mitigating financial risk and incentivizing of creative risks in the hard sciences.
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ERIC WEINSTEIN: I get asked a lot about the state of capitalism and I think that for those members of society of a certain age we think of capitalism as being locked in an ideological battle with socialism perhaps or even communism.
But we never really saw that capitalism might be defeated by its own child - technology. And I think that what we find is that even the most diehard free market economists usually save place for what they call market failure.
That is, markets really only work when the value of something and the price of that object or service coincide. So the key question is: what causes value and price to get out of alignment? And, in fact, every government on earth has a form of levying taxes of some form, because at some level there are certain things that need to be paid for that cannot, in fact, be priced where they must be valued.
So, for example, raising a standing army is tough because if somebody chooses not to pay for it it’s very difficult to exclude them from the protection of that army. So that in general-what we find is that these market failures are found in every economy, but they are also hopefully a small portion of the economic activity so that we can deal with them as a special edge case.
Now the problem with this is that technology appears to do something about figuring out the size of that small slice and making it rather large. So, for example, if I record a piece of music, once upon a time if you wanted a high quality version of that music you had to go to the folks who actually pressed the record albums.
But now I can record music with arbitrary fidelity and share it as a small file. And my having a copy of that file doesn’t preclude anyone else from copying the file and using it themselves. There’s no question that the number of times I use that file doesn’t really degrade the file because it’s, in fact, digital. So in that situation musicians were among the first to feel the earth crumble beneath their feet and they had to find new business models because, in fact, they found that they had gone from producing a private good where price and value coincided to producing a public good.
And the idea of taxing people to pay for both an army and their diet of jazz and rock n’ roll probably didn’t make a lot of sense.So the danger is that more and more things are being turned into small files, and that means that the portion of the pie that is private goods is likely to shrink. This is one of several different forces.
Another one that I talked about in an essay called Anthropic Capitalism is that software has some very peculiar features.Traditionally technology has moved us from low value occupations into higher value occupations. So while we always decry the loss of jobs we usually create new jobs which are more fulfilling and less taxing...
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@bigthink
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@smallstudiodesign
@smallstudiodesign 3 года назад
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@kmurray119
@kmurray119 3 года назад
@@BlackbodyEconomics yy
@ChannelMath
@ChannelMath 6 лет назад
As a software developer, I am daily aware that the measure of my success is how much work I eliminate from the planet: the work of our customers, the work of future developers, and even my OWN future work -- it's crossed my mind to include a few small bugs for me to get paid to fix in the future!
@reneedwood8703
@reneedwood8703 3 года назад
This greatly illustrates what’s wrong with capitalism: the extent to which it generates fear of loss of job to the extent to which people generate such mindsets out of fear of lack of income. Very insightful comment
@Rnankn
@Rnankn 3 года назад
It also illustrates the irrationality of glorifying work for its own sake. We could employ a whole town for a year digging a ditch if we gave them only spoons. Shovels faster, and robots best. Why best, because the towns people could all picnic instead. As technology succeeds, it is more a question of redistribution. As long as citizens come first, whoever owns the robot cannot hoard the productivity gains, but must share them as equally as possible.
@davruck1
@davruck1 3 года назад
@@Rnankn most work today is pointless. It does nothing but get people rich off consumerism. I enjoyed life the most when I left America and all it’s stress.
@jazzissick4152
@jazzissick4152 3 года назад
@@davruck1 where did you leave to? Just curious because I feel similar about America
@peteryost6770
@peteryost6770 3 года назад
Man, I think about this every day... I think it's the nature of engineering to constantly make systems more efficient. Through frameworks and tooling, coding has become more accessible than ever to everyone. Heck even higher languages are just humanized abstractions of binary. I think we'll soon reach a point where coding will be a basic office skill; like Excel or even SQL are today.
@kage-fm
@kage-fm 3 года назад
when i was a kid during summer vacation, i never thought to myself, “i better start trading my labor for a salary, otherwise i will have no source of self-esteem or will to live.” i went swimming.
@kage-fm
@kage-fm 3 года назад
@tuber2113 see 6:10 - he is suggesting that the place people can get respect is in the marketplace. this is obviously ridiculous, just as it would be ridiculous to say that subsistence farmers would start to hate themselves if they could get doordash.
@EggEnjoyer
@EggEnjoyer 3 года назад
This is a large part if why life doesn't have that same feeling it did when you were a child. Humans weren't meant to be in this constant state of stress and worry about the future. It makes it almost impossible to live in the moment. Consumerism and modern media and technology only makes it worse. But the difference between an adult and a child is that a child is fully present in the moment, an adults not because they are preoccupied with worry and thoughts of the future
@Epicurean999
@Epicurean999 3 года назад
How beautifully and simply you put forth the brutal facts of Life.. This hits hard when one is jobless like Me going through tad bit of anxiety at 2 AM. 🙃
@roykeane1922
@roykeane1922 3 года назад
Sounds deep, but if your parents weren’t thinking this way you would’ve fucking drowned
@kage-fm
@kage-fm 3 года назад
@@roykeane1922 are you saying my ability to swim is predicated on my parents having no reason to exist other than wage labor?
@SYLXM
@SYLXM 7 лет назад
To the people running this channel: Thank you for the content you provide and the people you bring on the channel. Please continue to bring new debates to the channel regardless of the childish people disliking the video because they don't agree with the speaker.
@SYLXM
@SYLXM 7 лет назад
I meant it more as something that can be debated. This is not a concrete idea, so it can be debated. You are right, though.
@classicalteacher
@classicalteacher 7 лет назад
Yes, censure anyone who agrees with other ideas and disagrees with this idea. We must be automatons with a hive mind. If anyone disagrees, send out your drones to put these childish people in their place.
@ahmedshinwari
@ahmedshinwari 7 лет назад
@Kotu I think you are the one who has gotten personal here. When one look at the title "Capitalism 2.0 Will Include a Healthy Dose of Socialism" one expects a good arguments. Unfortunately the speaker has attacked a topic that he could not present much. That is why I have thumb it down. I do not mean that this video be removed. I just marked it not worth time be spent on it. If you like it, you can share it no body has stopped you.
@abcd123906
@abcd123906 7 лет назад
Kotu If you had said "regardless of the childish people who disliked the video because they are offended" then yes. But disagreement is potentially perfectly legitimate as long as it is based in logic and reason.
@CandidDate
@CandidDate 7 лет назад
Imagine someone who could do differential equations in split seconds, or who completely understands quantum field equations both explicitly and intuitively. They would definitely be considered a freak of nature. By nature, man is good at talking, not computing. He goes through life bullshitting and conning if he wants to be "successful". UBI will create more problems than it solves. The stratification is happening. A technological caste system is forming. In the end, it is still and always will be a dog-eat-dog world.
@ricks6250
@ricks6250 3 года назад
lol, "we never saw capitalism could be defeated by technology" No, we did, that's literally the basic premise of marxism.
@davidfaustino4476
@davidfaustino4476 2 года назад
He's a moron. Best to ignore him completely
@andybaldman
@andybaldman 2 года назад
Bravo. It’s amazing how many people don’t understand this.
@viktorkoalamos
@viktorkoalamos 2 года назад
I agree totally. I understand and view Capitalism to be the exploitation of Marxism. Karl Marx clearly expressed that the logical conclusion to Capitalism is Socialism.
@Wog68
@Wog68 2 года назад
That is why I have been saying for a long time that extreme capitalism = communism. In communism: 0.1 % control the masses aka polite bureau. People get basic needs. Moto is do what we say, or else. In capitalism: 01.% control the masses through their extreme wealth and influence on governance. Would like that the rest get bare minimum in market and in employment. Moto is: do as I say, or else…..
@mackeejack6731
@mackeejack6731 Год назад
Go back to your safe space. We’re DECADES away from technology replacing human capital. Even then they’ll still need humans for ancillary functions.
@tasheemhargrove9650
@tasheemhargrove9650 6 лет назад
Finally, someone is bringing up the points Weinstein brought up. First, we need to think past socialism and capitalism. And second, the fact that most of our representatives come from non-technical or soft-science disciplines is a significant problem. Law school does not have a long track record of pushing the boundaries of our knowledge of objective reality.
@gspaulsson
@gspaulsson 2 года назад
Leaders have to be integrators of knowledge, not necessarily creators. The skill required to write a compelling book or a gripping speech or an all-absorbing movie is no less, and no less important, than the skill to build a bridge or a rocket. I say this as a software developer turned historian: I defend the value of my second career as much as the first. History, done properly, is self-evidently one of the historical sciences, like archaeology and palaeontology. It is the study of particular events, not a search for universal laws. My speciality is the Holocaust, an event that bears a lot of studying from many different angles. Proper historians start with a set of events and try to explain how and why they happened. They gather all the evidence they can, analyze it using all the tools at their disposal, draw conclusions and present the conclusions in the form of an argument, supported by scholarly apparatus so readers can chase down the sources, and illustrated with probative examples. The finished product makes the claim that the theory it proposes is consistent with all known facts, and predicts that future research will turn up no evidence that falsifies it. Of course it always does, so history is a continually evolving subject, but it is not just a narrative, as many people think. There are lots of narrative historians out to spin a good yarn, mind you, but they are not taken very seriously by the pros. We dig up bones and figure out how they fit. The popular historians build dioramas. The spinners of fiction build a creation museum. It's the same process as a plane crash investigation, and for that matter, a criminal investigation and a trial. The J6 committee is going through it now, and you betcha it takes a lot of legal knowledge and soft skills. Hopefully the DOJ will take it further. School, shmool: the practice of any empirical discipline pushes the boundaries of our knowledge of objective reality, which includes a lot of soft knowledge that isn't taught in STEM disciplines. You don't get to do much original work in STEM either until you get to the PhD level. One thing historians and the like are good at is countering disinformation. We have good bullshit filters. Sure, an engineer thinks critically and test hypotheses and all; but then you have Arthur Butz, engineering prof at Northwestern - and a Holocaust denier. Or Philipp Lenard, winner of the Nobel Prize in physics in 1905, who denounce the theory of relativity as "Jewish physics" and founded an Institute of German Physics. Don't sell highly educated people in any discipline short, and keep your bullshit filters up no matter how eminent the authority.
@lindaraereneau484
@lindaraereneau484 2 года назад
Nor does it emphasize self-knowledge, an inner objectivity if what's inside that implements systems and ideas in the first place. It takes the user and implementer of systems for granted, as if unchangeable. But isn't the director and executor of any system the most important element?
@Moosemoose1
@Moosemoose1 2 года назад
Why do people think you can just blend two economic systems which are completely antithetical to each other? Socialism REQUIRES the abolition of Capitalism because socialism REQUIRES workers control of the means of production and the end of private capital. That is completely incompatible with Capitalism and its worship of private capital and its accumulation. Social Democracy isn't socialism, it's simply regulated Capitalism, and Capitalism has shown time and time again in multiple countries that regulations cannot control it forever. We need to simply move beyond Capitalism, there's no need for rich people to exist. If that means some people won't create, then so be it, others will take their place. Capitalism is so destructive it needs to END, not be reformed. You cannot reform cancer.
@tasheemhargrove9650
@tasheemhargrove9650 2 года назад
@@Moosemoose1 You’re speaking as if socialism and capitalism are things which exist naturally. They’re man-made. Where the hell do you draw the line at Capitalism and non-Capitalism? The same applies to Socialism. We can say that Capitalism exists no where since markets are regulated. Also, before these two economic systems were even a thought, there were systems like feudalism and hunter-gathering. These systems weren’t great either. You can say literally every economic system that has existed is cancer if Capitalism is…
@Moosemoose1
@Moosemoose1 2 года назад
@@tasheemhargrove9650 Capitalism involves regulations, Adam Smith HIMSELF wrote it. This idea that capitalism requires unregulated markets comes from idiot libertarians who simply hate taxes. You draw the line between the two systems by who controls the means of production and capital: individuals or society as a whole, as well as what production is for: profit or use.
@goodtimes333888
@goodtimes333888 6 лет назад
I hope it ends up looking like Star Trek. Total freedom from needs and focused on creativity and self improvement.
@bodaciousbull8553
@bodaciousbull8553 3 года назад
I’ll have some of what you’re smoking
@andreasplosky8516
@andreasplosky8516 3 года назад
@Justin D That would be awesome, but the human ape is an awful greedy thing. and easily mislead and indoctrinated.
@mickmathews6748
@mickmathews6748 3 года назад
Gene Roddenberry insisted the Deanna Troi character should have multiple sets of breasts. It could be his vision of the future is flawed.
@steven-el3sw
@steven-el3sw 3 года назад
It's not going to look like Star Trek.
@dontgettoknowm9864
@dontgettoknowm9864 3 года назад
I find it telling that the pessimistic comments before yours got 246 likes to your 40. I’m with you tho. MAKE IT SO!
@domm1341
@domm1341 6 лет назад
He made a very good point about the stratification of society and those who lead us. I think career politicians, as opposed to people who had successful careers before entering politics, have a lot to answer for.
@spidersinmykeyboard6367
@spidersinmykeyboard6367 5 лет назад
This is one of the best and most honest breakdowns of what’s happening that I’ve seen.
@PockASqueeno
@PockASqueeno 5 лет назад
I fucking love this channel and the open mindedness of the speakers. They aren’t communist libtards or nazi conservatards. These folks really think through what they say based on facts, science, history, and other disciplines to come up with practical and intelligent solutions to social, political, and economic problems. Without insulting others.
@rkoh3740
@rkoh3740 5 лет назад
Capitalism is the highway Socialism is the guardrail Nobody hates guardrails so its a matter of perspective and we need politicians to be honest about limits of free market capitalism. FDR saved capitalism from itself and its that time again.
@abarbar06
@abarbar06 7 лет назад
I'd say there are very few politicians that have any clue what a partial differential equation is :P
@laneromel5667
@laneromel5667 7 лет назад
What is demonstrated by countries that have large social programs, is that services that all citizens need are delivered far cheaper by governments than by the private sector. The countries with the best education and health care have government run programs, and spend vastly less than countries with private sector Education and Health care. For example US spends 10,000 per person and only the middle class and up have excellent health care. Germany spends 5,000 per person and 100% of the population has access to excellent health care. Generally countries with well constructed social programs have the lowest debt to GDP ratio's, economically pure capitalism makes no economic sense, just as communism seems to be just as destructive.
@weatheranddarkness
@weatheranddarkness 5 лет назад
But it's been an easy argument to make for those in favour of privatisation. It's unfortunate that the claim has been taken so uncritically by so many people.
@mr5nanda591
@mr5nanda591 5 лет назад
Except no. #1 Germans would do much better in a Free Market, hands down. #2 The US spends close to 1+ trillion a year on welfare. #3 The US spent 350 billion in 2015, and 553 billion in 2017 in Medicaid and that's just a fraction of what gets spent in medical programs. You're repeating a false narrative that the Americans spend close to nothing for the poor.
@weatheranddarkness
@weatheranddarkness 5 лет назад
That's literally the opposite of what was said. Twice as much money is spent in the United states per capita to deliver an imbalanced return of services. Nobody's claiming that less is pent in the states. The fact is that making a profit off of public services demands that they only get delivered to those who already can pay, or that the government gets shafted because the service providers they rely on charge them more. Americans go to Canada for cheap drugs, not because they are subsidised, but because the prices aren't artificially inflated.
@swordarmstudios6052
@swordarmstudios6052 4 года назад
@@weatheranddarkness Prices being artificially inflated are a not a result of capitalism. Capitalism by definition requires competition to reduce prices. Income based subsidies for services are directly responsible. Privatization can and does work. Provided you can create a fair an open market. A market where some people get subsidized but other people don't for a particular service are what cause price inflation. Price transparency is super important to a capitalist system. case in point - education. It's totally possible to 'produce' education for 1000 dollars a year or less. But you don't get that option because the goverment subsidizes certain forms of education, and it creates laws that only recognize a limited kind of education that doesn't make sense in an age when you can google how to do bio-engineering in your house. Your not paying for education with a degree, your paying for certification gated artificially beyond a paywall backed by the goverment. If we had an education Market, you'd be getting a 4 year degree from google on the internet for a couple thousand dollars or less. What your complaining about, is actually the worst of both worlds - a capitalist entity protected from competitors by goverment. The answer to that equation isn't to make goverment just pay all the bills. Do you really want the same system that procures military equipment used to decide what kinds of education you can have? How exactly will that reduce prices other than hoisting them up to the tax payer and hiding the real cost further?
@weatheranddarkness
@weatheranddarkness 4 года назад
​@@swordarmstudios6052 you are extremely deluded if you think end user pricing is ever reduced to benefit the consumer. It's a competition tactic and always has to be supported by even greater cost savings. You can't handwave and say that the only reason shit is more expensive is that government regulations get in the way, because that's only a tiny portion of what any "consumer" ever sees, regardless of subsidies. Your education example is poorly chosen as Khan Academy is the only online based learning choice that isn't an outright scam at that price level. Market realities, are not the realities outside of markets. You want to pretend like everybody makes widgets but the majority of the money in the world is tied up in financial instruments. The drive towards financialization is one of the core hallmarks of capitalism.
@bramrhodesdouglas5861
@bramrhodesdouglas5861 5 лет назад
I’m a collapsitarian. Just waiting for this whole thing to fall apart.
@steezburger609
@steezburger609 4 года назад
So you're a prepper then?
@tomio8072
@tomio8072 4 года назад
Accelerationist gang rise up
@pinchebruha405
@pinchebruha405 3 года назад
@@steezburger609 probably not, guessing they just dont care and are gonna enjoy the life they make
@safety_sid
@safety_sid 3 года назад
Alaska's Conservative Governor Jay Hammond who oversaw the implementation of the Permanent Fund Program (oil money to the people) was educated as a Petroleum Engineer and served as a fighter pilot during WWII. A perfect example of a technically educated and fiscally conservative individual who successfully implemented a "socialist" type public service program because he was smart enough to see that it needed to be done.
@tmc8195
@tmc8195 6 лет назад
Ying and Yang are always better when they dance together, rather than opposing each other. Always enjoy listening to Eric, we need more people like him and his brother. A good brain on a good man.
@JeffCaplan313
@JeffCaplan313 3 года назад
yin*
@bluemethetys9267
@bluemethetys9267 7 лет назад
We've come to a point where people are looking for jobs that nobody needs. We should focus on more manual and environment friendly agriculture.
@mr5nanda591
@mr5nanda591 5 лет назад
Scale down the drugs, please.
@mr5nanda591
@mr5nanda591 5 лет назад
If that's how you think, then there is no "we"
@Rnankn
@Rnankn 3 года назад
@@mr5nanda591 we is the majority. In that you have no choice.
@amyper0012
@amyper0012 2 года назад
Thank you for this interview; very interesting. Perhaps it should be the technical folks and the psychologists who make the decisions, together. Technology with no deep understanding of the user seems to me the fastest road to the Matrix...
@Pancake833
@Pancake833 6 лет назад
wow this man speaks so beautifully. mathematician and economist, what a fantastic combination
@aichpvee
@aichpvee 3 года назад
He doesn’t know how taxes or money work tho, so maybe read a book instead of watching this garbage
@kashu7691
@kashu7691 3 года назад
@@aichpvee you must also be an economist
@aichpvee
@aichpvee 3 года назад
@@kashu7691 You clearly don't know how to do arithmetic. Stay in school, kid.
@kashu7691
@kashu7691 3 года назад
@@aichpvee what arithmetic lol. i know it might push the limits of your brain capacity a bit but try and explain yourself
@epictetus9221
@epictetus9221 3 года назад
@@aichpvee and what is that supposed to mean?
@tralfamadorian5270
@tralfamadorian5270 6 лет назад
Did he just say that nobody ever thought that capitalism might be brought down by its own technology? That was one of Karl Marx's central points.
@truecatholic8692
@truecatholic8692 3 года назад
marx was wrong about everything else, so he's most likely wrong about that one too
@madjak30
@madjak30 5 лет назад
The same thing is happening on a business level as well. The accountants are running the companies and bending to the will of investors, when the original formula that attracted the investment was the technical component being in charge and understanding the required precess instead of cutting where the spreadsheet shows a problem. This is reactionary thinking instead of being logical and finding the true cause of the problem...companies have cut the experienced people that probably had larger salaries and kept the less experienced and cheaper personnel which is now showing a glut in the experience base...projects are not completed with the same level of quality or on time...and the amount of rework due to lack of foresight is appalling.
@pinchebruha405
@pinchebruha405 3 года назад
Interesting you mention this; my daughters very young friends were all getting jobs at a once famous mortgage lender (the biggest one) they were making great money said it was easy, my mother a real estate agent during the horrors started asking them some questions, after they left Jesus Christ i see exactly whats going on there, hire the young kids that have no idea theyre burying people in debt they can never afford, she was outraged with the company doing that. She said it would only be a matter of time before it all gets shut down…Countrywide!
@murraymadness4674
@murraymadness4674 2 года назад
Well said. Greed has taken over, and since Reagan's 80's the unregulation of the market has just let the monster money take over, and politics is almost purely run by big corporations that fund almost ALL elected officials of both parties, so no regulation == monopoly, back to 1920's
@catherinemoore8129
@catherinemoore8129 2 года назад
Couldn't have said better myself.
@archaic9525
@archaic9525 2 года назад
We may qualify our epoch as a degenerative period for our civilization: in almost every aspect things go from wrong to out of control. The circle is well known for those who envision history as a mere absurd cyclic repetition -- which it is, no debate here: 'difficult times make strong humans, strong humans produce easy times, easy times engender weak humans, weak humans leave to future difficult times.' Now we are right on the third 'base', means enjoy present days, panic to come. This just because power, even worse in 'democracies,' soften people, letting them to enjoy the dumb stuff they require, for the sake of a comfort-vote. Behind this is the sordide thinking of 'the most stupid people become, the most predictably they will be handled / manipulated.' This as a basic rule for the humanity course. My point is: we are aimed to a fatal crash, and there is nothing we can do against but try to minimise it to allow survivors exist to initiate another loop. What a common destiny!
@danlightened
@danlightened Год назад
Yeah, I'm a firm believer in 'doing it once and doing it well.' But rather, they would hire 3 people for the price of that one talented person, and a manager that tells them what to do.
@williamfritz189
@williamfritz189 6 лет назад
He's right about the leaders trained in law and poly sci instead of tech that uses differential calculus. What he doesn't know is that fundamentalist Americans who have college degrees are usually engineers. What we need are people who understand tech but know how to think as humanists rather than as technologists. In other words, put the techs in charge but require them, like the elite of the last century, to learn some history, philosophy, literature, literature and literature...before they launch their solutions upon us all.
@eddougherty6087
@eddougherty6087 4 года назад
This was a 12 min. of thinking-out-loud that almost suffered from being too dense, having too many provocative ideas. It’s a fascinating listen, don’t get me wrong, but you could unpack about 12 separate thoughts that are embedded in here and give each its 12 min. treatment. Pretty remarkable this segment.
@andrewmaher8409
@andrewmaher8409 5 лет назад
Eric, I’m a fan of yours. I love the way you consider problems, break down and express ideas. The last interview that popped up was awesome, maybe it was rebel wisdom or Rubin. I might have misunderstood you, but at around 5 minutes it seems you might be projecting your world and your abilities onto others. I have heard the story of you and your brother and how it was a challenged genius. I get it, a lot. For some the level of challenged and genius didn’t hit the sweet spot that yours did. Or they were not privy to peers who identified the genius over the challenges. Eric, you have won the I.Q. Lottery and had it nurtured until it was off its knees. You’ve also obviously applied it well and worked very very hard, so kudos to you Sir. However, most people will find themselves in a more middle ground. They’ll never write a timeless poem, a symphony or have a light bulb appear above their head with ‘Apple Computers’, Air BnB’ or ‘neutron bomb’ written on it. There will always be ‘masses’ of people who need to be gainfully employed in a useful task as part of a tribe. Maybe it’s written in our code from societal evolution, your brother would know better than I.. then there’s 10% of those ‘masses’ who don’t even have the light bulb potential to be gainfully employed for any real task, despite their strong desire to be as productive and useful as the ‘normal’ people they envy. As a ‘socialist’ I’m sure you’ve given time (your most precious and finite resource) at the coal face of the destitute and would understand that for every genius who makes it to the top there are also many who get ground up at the bottom of the pile. My other concern is your belief that those people with creative technological genius should be treated as special angels. Please remember these are the same people who brought us nuclear weapons... Im not sure we should fund them to the hilt and let them run amok unhindered. That might not end so well. Sure, some of these scientific geniuses have expressed remorse in hindsight but the same technological levelling that allows a 15 year old to become a rockstar from her bedroom, also means that it only takes one ‘mad’ scientist for things to go from bad to much much worse. Anyhow, I’m still a huge fan...
@ten_tego_teges
@ten_tego_teges 5 лет назад
SO few people understand this argument. Thanks for laying it out clearly.
@cmw3737
@cmw3737 5 лет назад
Not to mention the power of the only slightly more capable individual given the cheap tools of CRISPR, X as a service, AI and other (bio)hacking tools. The ratio of the power of the 'worker' who just wants to earn a living but has to compete with several billion others vs the entrepreneurial hacker with several billion potential customers has never been greater and that's not a recipe for stability and raising of families.
@edgepixel8467
@edgepixel8467 3 года назад
Bullshit. It’s not the scientists who are mad. It’s the managers.
@SamOliver4
@SamOliver4 3 года назад
I'm the kind of person most people would call an intellectually gifted technocrat, but I think you really nailed it here. While his base points in describing the problem (creeping automation, etc.) are sound, his fixes sound a lot like issuing in a technocracy when I think the point should be in examining the concept of governmental hierarchy in the first place. No one person, or even relatively small group of typically privileged people, possesses even a fraction of the near-omniscience required to run something as complex as an entire country, especially a country with over 300 million people spanning over 3 million contiguous square miles, let alone an entire planet. Technocrats may have been partially stymied by the "soft discipline" types, but their leadership, as you pointed out, is not always going to be the answer. If we only accept answers in the form of the kind of "leadership profile" we want to be running the world, we will be sunk, accepting some hard-to-swallow costs as the natural result of some other arbitrarily defined set of desired solutions. We don't have time to make compromises like that anymore, setting aside the reality that many such compromises are immoral on their face.
@danlightened
@danlightened Год назад
@@SamOliver4 I don't agree with the doomsday scenario you're painting. People often say we're learning stuff in maths that we'll never use in real life. Probably we won't. But it's about problem solving skills. People in STEM field are likely to be better at problem solving and logic. In fact, anyone with any higher education is likely to have a more critical and rational thinking. And we can certainly have people from the Arts field to keep the moral things in check. And I'm not talking about pure specialists. There are a lot of people in their 40s/50s in management posts or sales/marketing team deal with their own employees and clients. Why are we assuming that all of them are holed up in a corner without any people skills or being unable to look at the bigger picture?
@DocWolph
@DocWolph 6 лет назад
Sounds more like Technocracy.
@KingScorpio84
@KingScorpio84 4 года назад
no it means the banksters pretend to be social, to prevent the people from throwing away their money
4 года назад
He's arguing for state capitalism. He literally said our leaders should not be trained in humanities but be trained in coding computer software. Can I vote against a policy recommendation by AI programmed by politicians? God I hate these Weinstein brothers no one actually stops and thinks what the ramifications are for their analyses.
@emilemilio3344
@emilemilio3344 3 года назад
@ what he's saying is technicians can solve human problems and not politicians.
@SimGunther
@SimGunther 3 года назад
@@emilemilio3344 What if the technocrats become the politicians? Now I'll never know that Hunter Biden's laptop password was "Hunter02" thanks to those mean censoring technocrats who don't want me to know what was in those laptop drives. How sad!
@hinglemccringleberry7265
@hinglemccringleberry7265 3 года назад
In capitalism 2.0 technology will replace those who make large quantities of money not by producing something of value but those that just trade. Trade, investment etc. will be more efficiantly handled by A. I. and should happen without corruption, immorally large profit margins and enviormental damgage or exploitation. I don't think politicians will be replaced. But constitution of basicaly 18th century democracies will need an upgrade adaptation as well. Not necesarilly too technocratic in that sector maybe. But still needs an update. Tradeand large investments in oligopolic companies must disappear though because they will be less efficiant and less fair.
@CarlosFloresMusic
@CarlosFloresMusic 7 лет назад
As a thought, I wonder if automation would be a sustainable model, if companies try to sell products and services to people with less ways to find income. As far as I know, economy is about exchange; at least money-wise, capital would concentrate on less people, mass produced products would be harder to sell... Cars, gadgets, many would need to ramp down their output. It's too early to tell what will happen, but companies should take this into consideration if the automation bandwagon could make their sales collapse (and needless to say, the social unrest caused by millions without means to make a living).
@robLV
@robLV 3 года назад
Great video. If we accept his final point that the tech class ought to have leadership and decision-making powers, we need to be able to answer these questions: how can we be sure they have enough humanist training and humanity's best interest at heart, how can we understand what they say, how can we trust them when we don't understand their field, their language, their constructs?
@theMuritz
@theMuritz 3 года назад
So you understand today’s politicians and decision makers and in return think they are humanist? Cheers … no offense honestly!
@murraymadness4674
@murraymadness4674 2 года назад
@@toddthreess9624 Trump disbanded his Technical Advisory office when they were not a bunch of yes-men.. I think we need a 'jury' system to make policy decisions. 18 randomly selected citizens listen to experts testify and make a decision. and perhaps their decisions can be over-ridden with a super majority of congress only...or something, what we have no doesn't work that is certain
@ionutalex7347
@ionutalex7347 2 года назад
@@murraymadness4674 that sounds pretty good, it will be highly dependent on the intelligence of them 18 randoms, and im worried as the vid i watched before this was showing some uni students being total retards and shutting down good arguments in favor of their feelings, we definitely need perspective tho
@danlightened
@danlightened Год назад
Yes, because the school drop outs somehow know better.
@KilgoreTroutAsf
@KilgoreTroutAsf 5 лет назад
Not a big fan of technocracy, but at the same time I don't think we can afford having people in charge who don't understand current and future technology, and can't solve a simple technical problem by themselves. If nothing else, STEM degrees teach you HOW TO THINK.
@KilgoreTroutAsf
@KilgoreTroutAsf 5 лет назад
"Stalinists or SJWs" LOL. You talk exactly like the kind of idiot I would like to keep away from power.
@dsyy90210
@dsyy90210 5 лет назад
​@Kytsche what the fuck
@Matt-ov1qp
@Matt-ov1qp 2 года назад
I have a degree in electrical engineering. Learning about automation and with reasonable presumptions towards the future consequences of it essentially convinced me the economic consequences of technological growth under capitalism is destined to prove Marx correct should democracy be sustained. The issue is people with STEM degrees are more likely to be creative, smart, and think for themselves rather than what's already been done. People with power under our current order won't touch that. The political representatives they corrupt are there to maintain the rather unsustainable status quo in democracy via economic regulation.
@johnorourke5444
@johnorourke5444 2 года назад
For decades we have been increasing the output of our workers with all of the spoils going to the people at the top. Ai will soon create an even more exaggerated wealth Gap. Picture Bezos buying a 15-story superyacht while his workers scrounge for crumbs. Right now there is nothing to stop that scenario
@wernerstapela4616
@wernerstapela4616 Год назад
Some very valid points, particularly on the nature of (especially political) leadership. One consequence is already apparent: very inadequate (digital) security structures at all levels, with huge costs. The one point he missed related to capital's in built seeds of destruction: capitalism's need for constant growth in an environment where resources are finite.
@CrownRider
@CrownRider 3 года назад
What you describe is what actually is going on in countries such as Germany and the Netherlands. The Rhineland business model is a moderate form of capitalism with socialist ways of doing daily politics. Virtually free healthcare and education is the best starting point for all people.
@truecatholic8692
@truecatholic8692 3 года назад
socialism brings everyone into poverty
@noahway13
@noahway13 5 лет назад
When they can beat us at charades, we're done.
@jv-lk7bc
@jv-lk7bc 3 года назад
"they"? cats?
@MikeAIright
@MikeAIright 3 года назад
@@jv-lk7bc computers
@LionheartLivin
@LionheartLivin 3 года назад
HAHAHAHAHA!!!;)
@denniss3980
@denniss3980 5 лет назад
Obamacare is a perfect example of a bunch of lawyers trying to fix healthcare,
@truecatholic8692
@truecatholic8692 3 года назад
amen to that, made it 2x more expensive and less available
@marcorodriguez6240
@marcorodriguez6240 7 лет назад
Capitalism becomes a problem when 1 person owns everything
@Unclenate1000
@Unclenate1000 7 лет назад
typically the outcome when the state gets involved and legally protects a given entity so that they can own everything.
@micham.9296
@micham.9296 6 лет назад
@@Unclenate1000 No, just no. Monopolies are greated when the government doesn't intervene. Thats the exact problem, its easy to secure rights on farmland and areas that hold ressources like silver, gold, oil or any kind of valuable mineral, if you already have money. A poor man cant buy a mine. Ungoverned capitalism (aka the free market) will make the rich richer while the rest is working for it.
@Arnsteel634
@Arnsteel634 5 лет назад
Diseconomy of scale is part of capitalism too. And it’s a wonderful thing.
@JanisFroehlig
@JanisFroehlig 5 лет назад
@Kytsche Except when they don't. If the rich see investing in the general public as pointless, which they will if they're in it for a return, the oligarchy continues.
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869
@ChipmunkRapidsMadMan1869 5 лет назад
It's an attitude like that that confines you to poverty.
@zombieowen
@zombieowen 3 года назад
UBI is businesses way of saying, we're not paying taxes, we're not paying workers, government has to pay our workers for us.
@daidaitastic
@daidaitastic 6 лет назад
I think it would be disastrous to have all positions of power be filled with people that have such small windows into the world and human experience. That is not to say that technical people should be barred either. There are more ways to understanding the implications of technology than being the ones who have built it. Understanding how something works is not the same as understanding how something is used. I would propose a different way of bringing technological knowhow into our governing bodies. Utilizing the expertise of engineers to design systems that would allow others to more effectively govern seems like the more ideal route. Right now it seems we have a system in place that has access to and is using all these new tools, but doing so without the proper framework. We've seen the impact of these tools, and it's time to apply our awareness of those consequences into a new system.
@danlightened
@danlightened Год назад
Why do you think those people would have a small window into the world? Are you saying that the current politicians are vastly educated and experienced in all fields and walks of life? Yes, there maybe quite a few deep into their specialization. But there are a lot of people who are generalists too, but in technical fields. Especially the owners. And managers. They surely have people skills. And they do market research. And what is market research? The current scenario, what people like, what they are looking for, feasibility and a whole lot of psychology amongst other things.
@aridianknight3576
@aridianknight3576 5 лет назад
Yang for president 2020
@mr5nanda591
@mr5nanda591 5 лет назад
yeah brrroooooohhhhh free money yallllllll
@erice1763
@erice1763 5 лет назад
the only candidate with a deep understanding of tech
@UtkarshKaushik
@UtkarshKaushik 4 года назад
:(
@mnali17
@mnali17 7 лет назад
This guy is brilliant.
@GoolamDawood
@GoolamDawood 6 лет назад
He makes the common sense factual argument, that the mainstream establishment does not allow, because it cannot honestly question its own foundation. Taxing billionaires and providing equal/fair access to public resources is not some crazy other worldly idea. Most countries do it, except the United States.
@patrickmccormack4318
@patrickmccormack4318 6 лет назад
Thank you for posting. Explanation by Eric Weinstein is insightful. Your conversation touched on the Technocrats of yesteryear. Oh boy, you're treading on dangerous ground.
@StephenGKirk
@StephenGKirk 2 года назад
Interesting commentary although traditionally the vast majority of theorists and technocrats have shown little interest or patience in assigning valuable time communicating their ideas and works to others, who most probably do not have the skills to understand them. Instead of disinterested specialists, we need more generalists, people who understand the principals behind the science, how the technology may best be applied, have the people skills and most importantly; the time and desire to do so.
@overcaffeinatedengineering
@overcaffeinatedengineering Год назад
This is a very intelligent take on several fundamental misunderstandings of "programming loops", taxes, capital markets, creativity, industrialization, and socialism.
@Rnankn
@Rnankn Год назад
It is a further distortion and perversion of reality. Prices are a deeply flawed and inaccurate reflection of value under normal conditions, but the extent of failure is becoming unmanageable, and tyrannical. How much failure is necessary to invalidate an economic model? i could list volumes of failures, but the devout followers of capital have a religious commitment that causes them to ignore reason and evidence. I would think changing the biosphere to threaten life on earth would be enough on its own. Programming loops just mean capitalism doesn’t work - its a utopian aspiration that is becoming dystopic.
@whoisamp620
@whoisamp620 4 года назад
UBI, done. Establish a minimum income for people who might be displaced by tech in our capitalist economy.
@Rnankn
@Rnankn 3 года назад
They won’t even give them $300 during a lethal airborne viral outbreak.
@truecatholic8692
@truecatholic8692 3 года назад
LOL
@shadetreephilosopher5568
@shadetreephilosopher5568 6 лет назад
Love this video! There has to be some ideal gray area between capitalism and socialism. Perhaps it should be taken as a case by case basis. Where where free open capitalism may work better in some industries, socialism may be better in other industries.
@Rnankn
@Rnankn 3 года назад
We already have a mixed economy. It just a question of tweaking the mix.
@richardflower7408
@richardflower7408 2 года назад
Social programs were developed to help people through hard times until they could get back on their feet. But those who detest taxes, fair wages and non profit health care bought legislators to eventually reduce the effectiveness and dome cases programs. Now we we have millions living on the street instead of thousands.
@bitterlilraccoon
@bitterlilraccoon 6 лет назад
I've been telling myself for a few years now that the only relevant jobs humans will have in the future will be research, administration and art. As technology replaces all repetitive means of work, humans will need to find other means of leading meaningful lives.
@espvp
@espvp 3 года назад
But that's one of the fundamentally inherent problems of capitalism: in capitalism, automation = failure, fear, a future "problem" in the economic system. But that is only because the system is conditioned to work under labor. Under communism (as in the ideals of Karl Marx, not whatever you learned in 5th grade/PragerU about Stalin, the USSR or the CCP), automation = heaven. How can eliminating human labor and replacing it with machine work be so daunting? How can freeing the people and allowing them to pursue their passions without caring how sell-able their creation is be a bad thing? Read some 'Capital' and 'C.M.' by KM for the answer, but do so as you would approach a philosophy book, not a politics/ideology one.
@The.world.has.gone.crazy...
@The.world.has.gone.crazy... 3 года назад
Well spoken!
@hidalgov1
@hidalgov1 3 года назад
8:19 Honestly, all people in congress should have a PhD. If you are in a committee, you should have a PhD in that particular field. Only then we can hope to see good laws.
@Bigglesworthicus
@Bigglesworthicus 7 лет назад
enlightened socialist technocracy when?
@TheShiz9797
@TheShiz9797 7 лет назад
Fully Automated Luxury Gay Space Socialism
@albertrogers8537
@albertrogers8537 6 лет назад
Socialism, properly defined, means a society arranged for the benefit of all its members. Capitalism obviously is the rule of wealth. Marxism was a theory published by Karl Marx, which if Marxist-Leninism was indeed the Rule of the Proletariat, Marx correctly predicted that it would end. Communism by any reasonable interpretation of the word does not exist and never did, except perhaps during the period of the Acts of the Apostles. It wasn't very pleasant. All government is Kleptocracy, but it beats Anarchy.
@HakWilliams
@HakWilliams 6 лет назад
25 years
@Teth47
@Teth47 6 лет назад
When we stop electing cheetos and limp noodles to leadership positions. Problem is that those are the only things crazy enough to run for office.
@myheartspits
@myheartspits 6 лет назад
Don't hold your breath, let's say.
@tonyr7854
@tonyr7854 7 лет назад
its like blaming the car for a crash caused by blowing a red light. It doesnt matter what system you put in place, if there are people willing to take advantage of it then it will slowly break down over time.
@autohmae
@autohmae 6 лет назад
Piriathy my believe is: build a system with the right incentives and it will work. Now we need to figure out what that is.
@luckymanindeed
@luckymanindeed 5 лет назад
Very well reasoned and articulated. Either we listen more to people like this and put more of them into leadership roles so that reasoned and calm debate can be our path to finding the future or we will end up a hopelessly polarized society that eventually ensures it’s own destruction through a complete lack of vision, reasoned thought, empathy and compassion for all.
@benjaminkramer9440
@benjaminkramer9440 3 года назад
Wanted: Capitalism based on making the soils as great as possible again, The water as clean as possible again The air as clean as possible again. Friendship as deep as possible ( for the first time?)= basis for the only acceptable socialism Together works better
@scottconlon5124
@scottconlon5124 2 года назад
Universal basic income 👍👍 should be enough for fundamental right of every individual. Air food water and shelter from the storm
@scottconlon5124
@scottconlon5124 2 года назад
Beer is almost a fundamental right lol but not quite. Spend the Daly ration well lol
@maxhess3151
@maxhess3151 3 года назад
More like Albert Einstein. Seriously, though, this man is a genius.
@winterhaydn5640
@winterhaydn5640 6 лет назад
Capitalism, Socialism, and Communism are simply variations of the same underlying structure: Monetary-ism ($) = which is actually a measure of scarcity & inefficiency. Both phenomena used to be very real. But over the last few decades, they largely don't apply anymore. Technology is allowing us to do more and more with less and less. We can now provide a sustainable abundance of resources/goods for everyone on earth, while greatly reducing the need for undesirable labor. Technical design & understandings are key. Value can be measured in real time, with built in security and transparency (blockchain) at every step. Repetitive tasks can be automated. And 'products' can be collaboratively designed and customized online, with A.I. programs assisting in maximizing durability, etc. So, we have vastly better means to meet our true goals. However, today's hierarchy-based structures won't allow this. So it's up to us to think outward. ((source: ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-HbvCxMfcKv4.html))
@oudguitar
@oudguitar 7 лет назад
Awesome and timely challenge, great stuff, thanks for this brilliant talk!
@jackmckay2241
@jackmckay2241 6 лет назад
This man is the real "most important public intelectual to come onto the world stage". Jordan perterson maybe the intellect we deserve but eric is the intellect we should desire.
@epictetus9221
@epictetus9221 3 года назад
Plus Daniel Schmachtenberger.
@monkeymox2544
@monkeymox2544 6 лет назад
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! Hooray for ignorant people on both sides of literally any argument, they make for the best entertainment.
@dayrohan
@dayrohan 5 лет назад
When he says the technical class, where not taking about putting Amazon an apple in Congress right. If so, I wanna keep it soft disciplines in government.
@BreatheManually
@BreatheManually 3 года назад
When he said that I thought it was something more like when Isreal asked Albert Einstein to be president. Amazon and apple are just capitalistic companies.
@paulojrmsantos8
@paulojrmsantos8 3 года назад
This is evolution unfolding, as it has always been and always will be. You can run, but you'll just die tired. Humanity is the cocoon, AI is the butterfly.
@patrickgallagher9069
@patrickgallagher9069 3 года назад
People have been saying things like this for generations. History has shown that as one technology makes another obsolete, the job market shifts to meet the new needs. For example, wheelwrights of old are auto mechanics now.
@elias_xp95
@elias_xp95 5 лет назад
The pursuit of happiness takes place as you step outside from your home and enter the world. What I mean by this is socialism, or socialist policies around welfare of the citizen are important. To ensure everyone has the same access to opportunities in life. To an extent, you get from the world what you give to it, but some people are born into circumstance beyond their control and we as a developed society should be taking steps towards building a social safety net. It of course needs checks and controls because it will be abused, humans are very predictable. But once you step outside the home and take on the world you should not be held back. You should be free to think, invent, build, and sell your ideas. Following the do no harm/do not instigate suffering principle. Driven forwards by Capitalism, protected by Socialism. These names do not do the combined ideal justice. It is both and it is neither.
@WarpScanner
@WarpScanner 7 лет назад
Capitalism and socialism are only differentiated by property norms. As long as means of production and land property exists as something to be capitalized (leveraged over others essentially) you have capitalism. A "healthy dose" of socialism thus makes no sense. Socialism and welfare are not the same thing.
@weatheranddarkness
@weatheranddarkness 6 лет назад
I suspect that's why the only "feature" of the future he singled out was universal income, because he's unwilling to take a bet on the rest of what it'll look like. I think he would agree that there's something that's going to force property out of the hands of some of the most powerful for the greater good. It'll take an extremely long time to fully dismantle the notions of property that will continue to see people claiming property rights that abuse other's freedoms, a hundred, a few hundred years? So for the meantime, some sort of hybridization between private and public property is going to continue to be at the center.
@devilsshield
@devilsshield 6 лет назад
Let's break down what you just said. You want to take away what others have earned in order for you to re-distribute it to people that have not earned it and on top of that, pay people equally no matter the job, so people also do not wish to become Doctors and Engineers due to the sheer amount of stress and the 10+ years of studying they have to endure and instead they prefer staying home and playing video games and working on other stuff. This is coming from an Engineer. If I did not get payed significantly more then other people for my work, I would instead stay at home and not deal with what I studied for and just play games and this is exactly what universal income would cause.
@ibraveheart5700
@ibraveheart5700 6 лет назад
6:10 how did he do that with his eye?
@Sorgenfri0
@Sorgenfri0 4 года назад
he's got a bum eye
@TheShootist
@TheShootist 4 года назад
genius
@ibraveheart5700
@ibraveheart5700 4 года назад
Scott McCloud Fuck off
@packrat-y7j
@packrat-y7j 3 года назад
Humanities. You're looking for the humanities. Sociologists, Philosophers, Psychologists and Anthropologists. These understandings are the keys that are overlooked today.
@broughtonparkade5381
@broughtonparkade5381 2 года назад
Short answer- yes.
@Valstein0
@Valstein0 6 лет назад
Summary: Academic perplexed at hurdles to Utopia. Suggests left-wing solutions.
@shawarmageddonit
@shawarmageddonit 5 лет назад
He doesn't, though.
@frankmiller721
@frankmiller721 7 лет назад
I don't think technology is the child of capitalism. I have heard it said that technology is the child of necessity.
@weatheranddarkness
@weatheranddarkness 6 лет назад
I suspect it was convenient as the explosive proliferation of devices of leisure is fairly representative of at least the arguments for capitalism, if not an object lesson in what it's best at, for better or worse.
@luciernagas5661
@luciernagas5661 6 лет назад
We can have tecnology development without capitalism, but capitalism accelerate it. Im a socialist
@eleganz
@eleganz 6 лет назад
no, technology wouldn't exist if it wasn't for self interest. Silicon Valley is one of the least regulated industries in the USA and its the fastest growing and fastest funded.
@luciernagas5661
@luciernagas5661 6 лет назад
hellopuppy00 Human beings produce things with their hands, that's human nature. Technology can exist without capitalism, are two separate things.
@weatheranddarkness
@weatheranddarkness 6 лет назад
that's an impressive leap there hellopuppy00. Especially considering "Silicon Valley" is not an "industry" but a place name. Necessity is the mother of invention. Useless and superfluous invention is the child of the capitalist need to continue to put out new products faster than landfills and recycling plants can deal with the old ones that still probably work but get thrown out because they're no longer the latest and greatest
@MrHarveyrex23
@MrHarveyrex23 5 лет назад
Bernie Sanders/ Andrew Yang 2020
@moyndebs6759
@moyndebs6759 3 года назад
As a Nigerian🇳🇬 many SubSaharan African countries practice capitalism(like the West does)yet we’re earth’s poorest region. I’m not a socialist or communist but I surely know the flaws in capitalism.
@davidalmeida2991
@davidalmeida2991 2 года назад
In my mind, if Humanity wants to achieve a higher level of freedom and Justice, we need to end the monetary system altogether and implement a resource based economy using technology to help us manage said resources and if done right this would lead to a fair distribution of wealth and probably the end of most of the violence we inflicted on one another. Labor would be optional, maybe granting a slightly higher status in some way and it would comprise creative and satisfying activities, the dull jobs would be fully automated
@noahwalters2732
@noahwalters2732 6 лет назад
What we need at this point is another age of good old fashioned expansion, and since we can't go out anymore we need to go up. Expanding into space would give jobs to tons of people, develops new technologies which in turn would bring more jobs. Unfortunately people these days are to focused looking at the dirt beneath their feet to care about ascending the human race to the stars.
@edgepixel8467
@edgepixel8467 3 года назад
So your solution is to export human greed to the stars. Yuck.
@noahwalters2732
@noahwalters2732 3 года назад
@@edgepixel8467 Well its either that, or we get slammed by a random asteroid and our entire species gets obliterated.
@zarkoff45
@zarkoff45 7 лет назад
I know a game more human than Go - Dungeon Master of a D & D game. Let's see the computers make a master game master for fantasy role playing games.
@JeffCaplan313
@JeffCaplan313 3 года назад
Have you seen AI Dungeon yet, courtesy of GPT3?
@clarkthomas354
@clarkthomas354 2 года назад
Unregulated capitalism and lack of some central planning are a problem. Letting pure profit guide society ☯️
@bubbercakes528
@bubbercakes528 2 года назад
None of the “isms” work on their own. It takes a balance of different ideologies to create a harmonious economy.
@footiemate03
@footiemate03 7 лет назад
capitalism got us to where we are today and it has been very effective with how it has bought such rapid technological growth but this system cannot continue forever. you can't have infinite growth with finite resources, the wealth gap between the richest 1% and the rest of the 99% is massive. Now with automation it's​ going to further widen that gap with high rates of unemployment in the near future, its rediculous that there are no checks to stop how wealthy this 1% class of the people can get. I'm not saying communism is the answer but the current capitalistic system needs to change.
@masterpalladin
@masterpalladin 5 лет назад
Basic income.higher taxes on the wealthy .eventually phase out to a resource based economy
@murraymadness4674
@murraymadness4674 2 года назад
Indeed, we need to abolish the Stock Market, no more shareholders. buybacks, financial swaps, etc, etc, just business for their workers, and workers who can swap jobs at will with their basic needs NOT coming from their employers, and people being self-employed or back to 1800's small shop capitalism. The Genius of Ralph Nadar has been lost
@uncleshark1103
@uncleshark1103 6 лет назад
I wonder if he'll cry wolf when AI is capable of economic analysis and theory.
@jv-lk7bc
@jv-lk7bc 3 года назад
when AI is capable of economic analysis and theory there will be no one left to cry wolf.
@Rnankn
@Rnankn 3 года назад
Humans don’t need to work, but that doesn’t mean they can’t choose to.
@epictetus9221
@epictetus9221 3 года назад
You missed the actual point he made. Too busy rushing to comment? He "cries wolf" at 05:14
@jonasfringe2793
@jonasfringe2793 5 лет назад
What a weird mixture of interesting analysis (automation, price/value...) and conflated terms; followed by an irritating plea for technocracy! Illustrates a political disconnect, indeed. Food for thought.
@H0n3yMonstah
@H0n3yMonstah 5 лет назад
Do you think it's a bad idea to have more people with engineering and scientific backgrounds in government?
@purpurina5663
@purpurina5663 3 года назад
I agree the largest crisis is of morals. Technical knowledge is an aid, but I don’t want to be (officially) ruled by, say, Bill Gates.
@brunoannetta5288
@brunoannetta5288 3 года назад
The bottom line is that we are paradoxical in nature due to the opposing views of the two hemispheres of our brains. So yes, we need to have a system that combines both capitalism and socialism … in harmonious opposition … if we are to have a system, society that truly works for humanity … in its current point of evolution.
@truecatholic8692
@truecatholic8692 3 года назад
No we don't, socialism has no redeeming factors.
@publicguy1664
@publicguy1664 2 года назад
Technology IS NOT the child of capitalism, however, poverty and wealth inequality, and greed are.
@elminster710
@elminster710 5 лет назад
make the AI try to play D&D for you're human edge :P
@donivanzete
@donivanzete 6 лет назад
How the hell did he do that with his eye?? 6:10
@ray4ix
@ray4ix 5 лет назад
Probably he has only 1 real eye
@voodoowilliams4074
@voodoowilliams4074 5 лет назад
Severe lazy eye. I think he talked about it on his first JRE appearance.
@kefsound
@kefsound 5 лет назад
What a stupid question.
@petermartin5030
@petermartin5030 2 года назад
The key is this: to build a rounded set of values (such as wellbeing and sustainability) into our systems and processes of production and commerce, instead of giving primacy to financial value alone.
@carolchen2320
@carolchen2320 2 года назад
as someone who hates routine and repetition and despairs at any standard corporate job, this is so enlightening and life-affirming!! May the future be full of creative, humanistic careers and lives
@danlightened
@danlightened Год назад
Exactly! I worked for a total of 1 year at 2 companies and never again. People were given such menial, repetitive tasks. As a giant construction company, there are similar things which will be done again and again at various sites. I was surprised to see no such software or even a basic spreadsheet existed for those things. I literally learnt Excel there and created 2-3 things that could cut down the workforce required there by at least 10-15 people for the entirety of the project (3 years). Even after I left, colleagues said they were still using it & found it immensely helpful and efficient. Funny thing is, I'm not even an engineer to be in a construction company; I'm an architect. And since I quickly learnt all the drawings, the Heads of each department literally approached me to help out with stuff. And after a while, with that collaborative work, I could further help other departments. And had they had listened to my suggestion about using BIM software (Revit), I could have alone done the work of 50 people and shaved a couple months off the projects, probably saving millions.
@stevedonald9667
@stevedonald9667 6 лет назад
A very USA-specific discussion. The other western democracies have already incorporated a "healthy dose of socialism."
@Arnsteel634
@Arnsteel634 5 лет назад
Europe is dying at the moment.
@dsyy90210
@dsyy90210 5 лет назад
@@Arnsteel634 and america isn't?
@edgepixel8467
@edgepixel8467 3 года назад
@@Arnsteel634 Really?
@Arnsteel634
@Arnsteel634 3 года назад
@@dsyy90210 never said America wasn’t either. We are burning our own cities down
@p.bamygdala2139
@p.bamygdala2139 6 лет назад
Before America can transition to a new and more effective economic model to survive in the 21st century and protect its most vulnerable labor class, it will need a cultural shift, because socialism is widely perceived as outright “evil” by a large segment (who ironically would benefit most from UBI implementation!). This group is not interested in hearing new or contrary points of view, and simply will not negotiate, so the sales pitch will need to be modified to best reach them. And to be frank, you’ll need to convince Fox News to promote it positively.
@devilsshield
@devilsshield 6 лет назад
That would never happen, since it would be stifle on their own ideology. Socialism like Capitalism and Communism is an ideology that has specific things that go with it depending on your extend. In general I do not like Socialism in any way. In fact, I hate socialism due to multitude of reasons and I will list a few of them: - It creates class based hatred - The more socialism, the less incentive all the way to almost 0 incentive in Communism (What I consider radical socialism) - The system results in a big government and in general, I truly believe that Government sucks at everything that is not national defense. When they put their finger anywhere, their systems are too controlled and usually result in great increase in prices and lowering quality. - It also greatly increases taxes, which I do not like. I believe in small amount of tax for everyone. In my own country we have a flat tax of 10% to all and that's around perfect for me. It can go up to 20% for all, but in a Socialist country, usually this changes to 40-70% tax systems, which for me is flat out theft. When you combine the last two you also get an enforcement to pay for a service that is bellow your standard and as such you do not wish to use, so effectively it's also oppression and enslavement.
@Matt-ov1qp
@Matt-ov1qp 2 года назад
You can call this a hybrid system if you wish but this is basically what Marx predicted to follow capitalism essentially via the socioeconomic consequences of technology as inspired from his similar experience through the industrial revolution. The only tremendously meaningful difference is the intelligence capable of being emulated today by machines relative to his time but he had the vision of such an economic future and how democracy would be forced to adapt. I don't believe he simply got everything correct obviously but this will probably be his crowning achievement in predictions among others on what capitalism promoted.
@jordanmumaw2310
@jordanmumaw2310 Год назад
I agree with the inversion that needs to happen across all levels of societal policy decision-making. I would also add APPLIED BEHAVIOR ANALYSIS (ABA) to the framework of hard sciences that belong in the collective governmental thought. It is another under-represented, evidence-based scientific field that would work synergistically with technological minds to better meet the needs of a HUMAN workforce. Current organizational psychology curricula would include ABA as a tenet of understanding human behavior.
@samueltomjoseph4775
@samueltomjoseph4775 2 года назад
Actually towards the end, I just realized how much he and I share the hatred for the management folks in the tech industry. I mean, to be honest, they don't really know how to keep up with us. I feel let the engineers also learn management and replace the pure management folks.
@baronvonbeandip
@baronvonbeandip 3 года назад
This is actually a neat thought. The types of goods begins to determine the market dynamics.
@sedisvacantia8581
@sedisvacantia8581 Год назад
Giving power into the hands of STEM field people is the fastest way to societal collapse I can imagine.
@ThePhysicsConnection
@ThePhysicsConnection 6 лет назад
Jaron Lanier has cool ideas on how to solve some of these problems. He's been warning about it for 20 years
@intlprofs
@intlprofs 3 года назад
True
@commie563
@commie563 5 лет назад
Maybe we can do socialism with a small dosage of capitalism.
@johnk2452
@johnk2452 5 лет назад
TA ... you cannot possibly be serious! ONLY a person who does not understand FIRST PRINCIPLES can make such a statement.
@lordgarion514
@lordgarion514 5 лет назад
@@johnk2452 Actually, there's never been a pure government of any type. But during the industrial revolution, capitalism had almost no oversight from the government, and it made millions of slaves, kept them so destitute that even their 6YO kids worked 10-12 hour days in horrifically unsafe conditions, and polluted the land and water so bad they took decades to mostly fix. That's why they didn't make America a capitalist government. They made it a constitutional republic. It's of, for, and by the people, not the people for the company. We wouldn't be worth a shit without socialism. Fire, rescue, police, roads, the electrical power grid, gas lines, social security, and much more are all 100% socialism. And they are great for our country. The government is supposed to be regular people (that's why they're elected) doing what is in the best interest of the people. Can you explain how us paying 400% more for healthcare than the EU while having more disease, higher stillbirth and SIDS rates, and a shorter average lifespan, while also directly paying for almost 20% of clinical trials and over 40% of drug, medical device, and biotech R&D? And let's not forget that if whatever we're helping pay for is a success, we not only don't make them pay us back out of their profits, but we let them take their part off their taxes, AND allow them to charge us considerably more than any other industrialized Nation. Go ahead and try to tell us how how great capitalism is. It's a destructive system that needs constant oversight and right controls.look at the 2008 crash. That was capitalism with almost no oversight.
@vividdaydream1516
@vividdaydream1516 Год назад
This recommendation may not make sense at first, but anyone who's interested in theorycrafting what life after turbo-capitalism may look like should look up the channel Not Just Bikes and their videos about walkable neighborhoods. It's a huge eye opener on how the layout of American cities/towns being designed primarily for cars has far-reaching consequences on just about every aspect of our lives, including keeping us locked into a hyper-consumerism economy.
@sujitsadhnani750
@sujitsadhnani750 3 года назад
we will have an optimistic outcome
@Eltalstro
@Eltalstro 2 года назад
Technology is not the child of capitalism; it is the child of necessity.
@jimbobaggins231
@jimbobaggins231 2 года назад
Technology is not the child of capitalism
@nicktaylor5264
@nicktaylor5264 6 лет назад
Pre-Napster, only 3% of musicians signed to major labels made more than $600 a year. The idea that any but a statistically insignificant number of musicians made their livings via "selling copies" is bollocks. The whole thing always was set up so musicians got ripped off.
@johnminehan1148
@johnminehan1148 2 года назад
Here is the actual issue: "solving a partial differential equation," no less than doing legal research, is absolutely easier to replicate with technology than to have a human do it. Put another way, neither of those skills (necessarily) gives you the framework to avoid the Challenger disaster. That event did not happen because NASA did not understand the system could fail, it was because the felt the importance of the Mission justified accepting the risk.
@springtime4haroldinparadis615
@springtime4haroldinparadis615 5 лет назад
Technoctacies are no better that capitalistic oligopolies, and China is both of these. Technocrats have no problem dumping on the middle and lower classes. This guy is full of it.
@BatMan-oe2gh
@BatMan-oe2gh 5 лет назад
Do you even know what Technocracy means? Technocracy is a proposed system of governance in which decision-makers are selected on the basis of their expertise in a given area of responsibility, particularly with regard to scientific or technical knowledge. So a an Environmentalist is put in charge of the Dept of Environment and so on. How is China like that? Seems to me, you are full of it.
@Redd_Fawkes
@Redd_Fawkes Год назад
No longer a question of 'if' but 'when '.
@SikWidiT390
@SikWidiT390 7 лет назад
very interesting . I would love to learn more on this idea, and would like to hear the views of other persons in this field
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