Capitalism Has Mutated Into Something Worse with Yanis Varoufakis - Factually! - 247 

They're a company that's designed like a union & operating in a similar fashion as Shawn Fain his UAW. By supporting start up companies like Oblivion Oddities Project Studios who are trying to push for Social Capitalism who want better societies. Companies that use their money to create shelters for the homeless, gardens, & more. Hell they want to create community studios that give free education.

Social Capitalism is the solution! It's the only form of Capitalism that's both Moral & Ethical!

Adam... I see Republican folks there counter-argue against people say usa 🇺🇸 is a democracy by saying it's a Republic. What do they mean? Is it worth a program, I think?

As Yanis said, it is in the link. https : Hypertext Transfer Protocol Secure. Yanis is the dream interviewee, ask a question and he is off for 10 minutes of brilliant exposition.

Uber calla cab better service

Hell yeah

🙌 😉 😂 😭

Yeah, us ordinary scmucks should be getting paid to handle the stresses of social media.

nice pun

Underrated comment

Exactly. The rich never gave away power willingly. They surrendered small bits while kicking and screaming.

yes, power never gives up without a fight. nature of the beast (corruption).

It would probably take violence, and rational people would rather not spend the rest of their lives in prison, the government isn't going to do anything about it, so, we can be angry, but there's nothing anyone is going to do about it except enjoy the last few years we have left before everything is a subscription service.

Anyone else seriously troubled that historically this generally only happens via massive bloodshed and revolution...? I feel like we should be beyond this, but human greed combined with what id call a completely lack of empathy and distance too great to relate to those they are affecting leaves me thinking this doesnt change without history repeating in a horrible way.

Hell yeah dude

Exactly. And this video is free 🤫

When is the internet free though? I gotta pay for it to have it in my house and on my phone.

I guess he tried to say "if you use something in the internet that is free, you are the product." You "pay" them with your time (or data idk) in that free app or site or whatever. Is not free for the "sake of being free".

The 1st lesson people should be taught in life is nothing is free. You will pay one way or another, you may not even be aware you have paid until further down the road. Hindsight is always 20/20..but some are so blind they never see how they pay, which is a sad state of affairs, they just accept life isn't fair. Perhaps being ignorant to the point is a blessing for them. 🤯🙊🙉🙈

​​@@paulblyde2175So, if I ask a stranger on the street what time it is, or they Help me with something else - I have to pay? What about people who ask for food - I have several Times bought food for strangers who asked me, and I didn't charge them for it...was I supposed to, for the sake of your mantra being true?

Underrated comment, did you actually make it through the entire book wealth of nations? I made a solid attempt but reading ledgers written in ways we no longer speak was just too painful

​@@jessehamilton4223 I read through the entire work over a weekend when I was taking government in high school. It's not as long as it seems, about as long as your average Harry Potter novel and I see people chew through one of those in a day or so.

@@BiscuitDelivery It's not the length in pages for a book that counts, but the amount of information and its difficulty to process. Harry Potters, like all other child fiction, are easy to digest. Those monumental books on economy or history, like Wealth of Nations, make you stop every page and think for a good while on what you have just read. If you are not doing it, and reading it just like you would read HP, you are actually just browsing and might as well not read it at all.

​@guteksan totally agree that a book's length does not determine its digestibility. Can you imagine if it did?

Well the closest I can think of is the policy Marianne Williamson is advocating for which is an economic Bill of Rights. But the DNC would not give her a chance.

Secure the votes to pass it

I don't know. I kinda like tapping on godawful ads for products I'll never buy just to mess with their algorithms. It's not like they actually make money off me, in fact i cost them in the end, but I suppose I'm a special case.

There is a fun little idea in the book Angrynomics which proposes that the state should charge big tech in order to be allowed to use the various data of their citizens and use that money to provide a certain baseline income to each citizen. Basically instead of them more-or-less-legally (and comprehensively) already using this very data, make it official but charge for it.

It's the job of congress to "fix" the digital world we all live in. It's unbelievable that they haven't come up with a digital bill of rights by now. WTF are we paying them for!?

@@alexandertownsend5079 You poor, unimaginative soul. I'm not blaming the people. I'm exorting them to use the power they have (LABOR), so we can ALL live the solarpunk future of our dreams. The machine currently crushing us will stop only when we stop giving it our active labor, and our tacit consent.

It's also safer. If I go after the board members of hedge funds the CIA will stick me in a black site ​@@alexandertownsend5079

@@alexandertownsend5079 You may want a /s. Remember there are people who really are really dumb and you don't want to be confused for them.

​@@alexandertownsend5079 all blaming does is shift the responsibility on someone else. That's why there's an inverse relationship between blame and accountability.

When will the left or even the plebs actually collectivize? We talk and performatively protest and write this stuff, but then what? We can't organize like an actual organization, and we dont have oligarch access to do so and maintain it.

....go on....

Yup. This is all inherent to the capitalist mode of production. Marx predicted much of this stuff.

Capitalism has never been so alive my friend

Someone knows the music is about to stop and everyone else has forgotten the whole game is about keeping a place for their --- when it goes silent.

Yanis Varoufakis openly supports the genocide of the Ukrainian people.

To be fair Greece isn't exactly known for it's sound economic policy

@@aegon123, To be fair Yanis quit the job when they told him to hurt the economy of Greece. Cupcake! Some people are simply smarter and better read than you Cupcake.

I guess a complete economic collapse is hard to ignore? lol @@aegon123

Aegon i think you need more Varoufakis in your life 😅😅😅

Who organizes the workers?

@@senaesul3128managers. Which are also workers.

@@Gobbldeegoo1 What do manager's make that's categorically different than what the CEO of a company makes?

@@senaesul3128 What is your actual argument here? The same tired regurgitated rhetoric about how we somehow need capitalists to organize us? We have instantaneous global communication - your argument is invalid :)

@@spitt3640 CEO's don't interact with managers?

lots of honest critical thinkers call our modern world neo feudalism. because if you are honest and critical when analyzing our situation, thats the only truthful conclusion you can come to. but our culture demands we arrange our lives around the feelings/egos of well off eurocentric people, and if you point out anything that even remotely removes personal responsibility from their fortunes, you get called jealous, crazy, a communist etc etc. ffs, we live in a system that only functions because of lots of people participating in it. the notion of self made anything is actually psychotic. because we dont live in a vacuum. and if all our laws, businesses and economic distribution systems are designed by wealthy eurocentrics for the purpose of improving the fortunes of wealthy eurocentrics, and most critically, done without equal influence of all parties involved or even measurable influence of all involved, it can ONLY be feudalism. we live in a system designed by and for people that are not us. a system solely based on prioritizing making rich people richer and ignoring the state of anyone or anything elses well being. then i remember that there are literal monarchies in europe who call themselves the best democracies on earth and i lose hope for our species because most well off people repeat that same blatant falsehood.

And stealing the labor of artists, writers and content creators

These AI systems currently make it basically impossible to hold anyone (any company) responsible when they inevitably cause harm (as they already are)

This is what happens in Rome with the salves, if they do this in US, it will guarantee a fall. If, but will fall.

@@down-to-earth-mystery-school Yeah, I'm surprised they didn't go more into that when they were talking about free labor. The amount of labor they steal from everyone via their shitty chatbots and image generation is order of magnitudes larger than the amount of free labor they get from someone writing a review.

Real problem is that automation should work for everyone, and not just for a small wealthy group of individiuals, whatever the nature of the automation, the idea that labor can be stolen is a nasty side effect it self of unchecked capitalism, because suits get to control the labour while reaping nearly all its benefits. Take spotify... they basically pay existence ransom to warner, to the point that as spotify artist you're basically making warner rich in the first place, while needing to pay a middleman to even be on the platform, and not even making a millionth of a cent per play yourself... responsibility was dodged by big corpo just fine without modern AI, but no "artist" seems to care about that.

Banks never fail. They are always saved by taxpayer money and on top of that they count us saving them as furthering our debt.

Corporations are the true welfare queens.

A number of banks has failed recently. It is the large too big to fail banks that get bailed out with taxpayer money.@@07Flash11MRC

Our taxes went to enrich them. The richest need to pay BIG TAXES

It seems a massive theft of public funds occurs every 10 years or so. Think of the money that was legislated into existence and then disappeared during Covid. Exponentially larger than in 2008 and global in scale. Politicians are the robber barons of our modern age. Disasters are their greatest opportunities.

Also buy the book 1984 by George Orwell

Thank you for your service. You will also enjoy David Graber then!!

its not even revolutionary. its just honest and critical analysis. we just live in a culture where prioritizing the feelings/egos of rich people is the main mode of behavior, so we are used to being extremely dishonest about everything in order to not upset their delicate little fee fees. want to test this? just go to any person in the UK (or most of europe tbh) and tell them that a monarch appointing all the officials who have the most say in what happens with laws means they dont live in anything close to a democracy. they'll flip their lids and of course, look down their noses at you, call you uncivilized and unsophisticated etc. they will do anything but address the factual statement you made about their monarchy government.

@JohnHall I'm so laughing at this, because this is the ( not so hidden irony) of the reality of this discussion, and there is Adam talking about his girlfriends chickpea pasta.

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If you thought Capitalism was bad wait till you get a load of Capitalism 2

@@ThisIsANameBruh The market is so efficient.

We literally have an entire genre dedicated to describing what a dystopian nightmare technology will become under capitalism and it's called "cyberpunk" ;)

The Industrial Revolution and it’s consequences

@@ThisIsANameBruh well played. I almost spit out my drink reading this.

Apple does it worse they wait for smaller more innovative companies to introduce a technology in a good way and then copy it with a small twist and sell it to consumers as new and innovative

Don't forget the money laundering IP and tax evasion tricks that they hold Ireland hostage under

Welcome to capitalism - Profits over People!

@@PoppoYoppo Just look at the vision pro. It exists SOLELY to create hype and fomo. Apple knows a $3500 VR headset isn't going to sell a lot but it's influencer bait. Tens of thousands of videos and posts of obnoxious idiots showing off how cool it is so Apple can manipulate people into spending money when the cheaper crappier $1000-$1500 dollar version comes out later this year or next year. That cheaper version will also conveniently need a brand new Iphone to power it since it almost certainly won't be stand alone like the Vision pro. That's product synergy right there. It's all an insidious behavior manipulation tactic. All that to sell people a VR headset that does LESS than most other cheaper VR headsets. Even what it can claim as unique and new is impractical and niche. Doesn't matter though because Apple did it and people have been trained to believe that matters.

Says something about our.. susiety though that we fall to these ads and manipulations.

Yeah, that's what happened with me and 'Another Now', brilliant ideas.

100%, he is brilliant.

It is his profession to identify who agrees with what he saya whilst he serves the other side!😢

How fitting that someone with 666 in their profile likes Marxist ideology .

Socialism or barbarism isn't a choice. It is a description of what your life is and spoiler. You live in barbarism.

They already are serfs in all but name

@@jacksonfurlong3757serfs that own a home, have a 401k & multiple cars? I wouldn’t call that serfdom.

​​​​​@@craigmakuh most people do not have 401k's and multiple cars, and most people CERTAINLY dont own a home...

​@@craigmakand you know what? but even if they did have a 401k or own 2 cars or whatnot, this is a FOX newsass talking point. It's along the lines of Bill Oreily back in the day saying "How can people complain about inequality when they have fridges now?". The analogy of capitalism to feudalism isn't 1=1, but it sure is a lot closer than you smugly insist.

Back to feudalism it is then

It's ironic isn't it. Because the reason people are so afraid of socialism is because they think it's where the government takes your stuff. Check out the video by Second Thought about Why You Don't Own Anything Under Capitalism.

💯, I know the “subscription heated seats” thing was a rich-guy stunt from last year but IMO that was just some subcontracted marketing company testing the waters and introducing the idea in order to soften up the population for such exploitation to be later be rolled out (probably sooner than later, too)

​@@jameseglavin4they learned from the videogame industry

​@@jameseglavin4 Thankfully there's hundreds of thousands of older cars out there that are good enough to not need to buy the new ones that will eventually that.

Don't forget your 401k.

@@tinoyb9294 I'm not familiar with 401k as I am not American. What about it?

@Eboreg it is a bit complicated to explain here. You will need to investigate it. It is a program to save money by putting it in the stock market with deferred taxes instead of investing locally. Makes stock prices go up and billionaires richer since they own the vast majority of stocks and bonds. The average person has to hope the stock market doesn't crash when it is their time to retire. It pretty much replaced pensions.

@@tinoyb9294 Thanks. I guess we have something similar here in Sweden. You won't get very far on just the state financed pensions.

@@klaatoris it also replaced pensions from private companies as well.

Aww that rocks

Even when neo-Nazis attacked Yanis and gave him a black eye, this modest man kept his word to appear at speaking engagement, swollen and bruised, he still SHOWED UP. BRAVE YANIS.

I agree. It's always interesting, not using loads of jargon and you do not have to agree with all his opinions

​@@joeldwest They were not "Neo Nazis" He said so himself.

to me it did not

And this is how I learned lol

Same same

Took me till I read this comment, I thought he was using thieves as feudal lords

I kind of thought Adam should have clarified that early on. I picked up on "fief" in the context of the conversation, but it's not a common word these days and I figured that it probably sounded like "thief" or "thieves" to many viewers

As Greek, why do you think yanis seems to have a better time being politically influential outside of Greece than inside? Seems to be loosing put to the KKE, NA and even PASOK

@@truedarklander we as Greek use to do that.. we've done the same thing to Socrates!

@@truedarklander Anyone who gets his hands in politics in Greece is ruined. Greece is ruled by corrupted police, corrupted politicians and mafia. The reputation of our institutions is abysmal. Yanis tried to do the right thing by chipping in at a difficult time by joining "SYRIZA" to serve as financial minister but the party's now ex leader (ex prime minister Alexis Tsipras) made a disastrous decision in 2015 and Greece's left popularity is still on a downward spiral from back then. So his reputation is forever tainted even if he immediately resigned and left the party the people still have a foggy and bitter taste of that memory. Moreover, people are completely convinced on the incompetence of the Greek government. They keep voting for rightwing parties that use the same old tricks again and again: promise the voters "gifts" then take 40x the amount. At the moment in our parliement we literally have 4 parties that are exactly the same just with different aesthetics.

He literally imposed the Troika's cuts on Greece and he comes from an elite Greek family

@@OnlineEnglish-wl5rp no he didn't? He left the government when tsipras agreed to the troika's terms

Yeah he's pretty smart too...last I checked he left Greece for the UK/France (speaking as somebody who visits GR all the time, lol). As for his thesis "capitalism is dead" it makes for a great headline but actually all he seems to be talking about is imperfect competition, meaning you don't have "Adam Smith" type textbook "perfect competition" (which has hardly ever existed in the real world).

@@raylopez99 go watch interviews where he talks about his book specifically...its not ''imperfect competition''. Its about macro economics...these cloud fiefdoms are not sustainable long-term. And guess who will pay or who pays for their riches...us.

And because most of the Web runs on AWS, the entire online space is renting from Amazon. It was an absolute _blunder_ on the part of the other tech giants for allowing Amazon to swallow up this market.

Amazon is being destroyed by resellers selling ikea furniture and shein goods, just like Etsy. This whole libertarian deregulation thing is working out great 🙄

I also want to point out landlords still don't provide anything, exactly like their feudal counterparts.

can i make a point how do you do Socialism without it leading to a dictator marx led to Hilter

​@erayskirata6716 my grandad built a house near a beach by himself (construction worker). He was renting it when he wasn't living in it. I thought land lords built their houses and rented them bc of the money and effort it cost to build them for the longest time, till middle school when I realized what was happening. I'm from Greece and it's lately that we've become a neoliberal hellhole after a fascist dictatorship. Till then, most people built their own homes, by themselves. Like my grandad.

Yes I agree. With one added component; the exporting of manufacturing to the imperial subjects and leaving the management in the hands of imperialist capital. And then the subjects seize the means of production leaving the system in boundless contradictions. Do you see it too or am I simply wrong?

​@@JkjoannakiThat sounds beautiful. Building your own home, your own blood and sweat, sometimes tears. Something truly yours, for you and your family, and family to come. Another stolen future.

brought to you by neoliberalism and globalists. make everything into a commodity subject to arbitrage.

This is the greates problem with our system.

Many, if not most, of the products of our economy, whether physical or intellectual or digital, were conceived, designed, and built by generations of people combining work and ideas, and then someone with the money and means to play the system decides to "own" it and profit from it. The internet and medicine are some of the most glaring examples of which.

Didn't know that. Trek is one of the few optimistic sci fi realms out there so this is great to hear.

This is Exactly how I feel about targeted advertising. “The algorithm will serve you more relevant ads for things you actually want, not unrelated BS” is the positive spin they give for data collection. However it doesnt matter how cool or useful or necessary to my life the ads are…. they are irrelevant because I can barely afford to buy stuff secondhand, let alone new, let alone new and online with shipping fees. The ads will never work because I simply cannot buy anything.

Company: "Here's our product! You'll love it! Buy it today!" Me: "F**k you."

The problem with this thinking is that the algorithm isn't actually trying to sale you anything, they are being paid to serve an ad, not sale a product. It doesn't matter if you despise literally every product you see an add for, Google already got paid. Plus they know that eventually you will look for a product online either to buy or to find reviews and when you do they sale the top slots on their search engine to the highest bidder so they still can claim to drive sales. Lastly you are a very small part of all the people using the internet so the only need just an equally small amount of money from you and add it to that amount they get from everyone else's data.

DIY laundry detergent involves washing soda, fels naphtha soap, & borax. I haven't seen an ad for any of those in decades. Lots of instructions on the internet.

Ads are a tax loophole

I don’t condone the current functionality but the search results have to be sorted in some type of way. Every option is basically arbitrary

Yep, always search buy and sells or surplus stores. Developing local circular economies is an important thing to do, and it helps you individually as well -- and on top of that you end up finding sick deals, and that feelsgoodman! Me and my partner have an aquantince who liquidates hotel/motel furniture when they do renovation, and you can get near perfect condition smart TV's and couches for like $50-$100 each, lamps for pennies on the dollar, all sorts of furniture -- and then we filled in everything else we needed by going to consignment stores and thrift shops. We were able to furnish our place for a fraction of the cost getting things new, especially by today's standards.

@@franjkav Just because there is no theoretical perfect solution doesn't mean there aren't better or worse solutions. This is a worse solution.

Airports, Post Office. . . .Legal System.

Other than using the word they way to much you come closer than most here. The last "they" you referred to was the state. The main obstacle in the way of free market capitalism.

Yup. Capitalism is a competition, and competitions end. Eventually it becomes oligarchy.

Who's working from that premise? Are you talking about Varoufakis? Given he's a self-described Marxist, I don't think he's about just fixing capitalism, nor does he suggest anywhere here that that's what he's suggesting we do.

Yanis is definitely not trying to make it more palatable. He is laying out how capitalism has changed. This is a perfectly valid and useful thing for an economist to do.

He doesn't say this. Who thinks "Technofeudalism" is more palatable than "Capitalism"? lol take a breather and listen man

​@@Jomchen this seems to completely misrepresent the comment you're replying to.

He is E good academic but a disastrous politician and an egomaniac

yeah, he's great and all when he's abroad. he has all his intellectual friends and elite scholars in all the universities. exactly like Elizabeth Warren. Meanwhile, back in Greece he has created an egomaniac party, just to brand himself internationally, and effectively breaking up the radical left into more tiny pieces, instead of uniting and defeating the ultra-right wing. In two elections in a row he has done enough damage so that now the New Democracy right-wing government is able to enjoy a supermajority. Unfortunately he has zero real connection with the Left on the ground or unions. He's basically a celebrity going around on RU-vid channels while having real contempt for Greek or poor people. But you would never know that because you don't speak Greek and in English he has a different persona when he is with his wealthy peers. Just google 'varoufakis photoshoot paris match'. He later apologized about it because I guess it hurts his "brand"

@@peteralexander6619 Would be interested to know your reasoning

Check out Jaron Lanier. He’s been saying this stuff for the better part of a decade now.

Yes, and at this part he said instead of having to call Uber why can't I just get on some public app and say I want to get from here to there and have companies bid on it. I never would have thought of that.

@@SolidAir54321 because that's insane gibberish that doesn't mean anything is why. Why would there be a platform in an app where companies "bid"(34:30) to take you when they already have their own apps? And what are they bidding on? What for? A contract where they will earn billions of dollars? These companies won't do that because it doesn't make sense for anybody involved.

Don’t forget this is exactly what they want

@@SolidAir54321 because that doesn't mean anything is why. Why would there be a platform in an app where companies "bid"(34:30) to take you when they already have their own apps? And what are they bidding on? What for? A contract where they will earn billions of dollars? These companies won't do that because it doesn't make sense for anybody involved.

Same 😢

Welcome to capitalism - Profits over People!

Even shareholders opinions don't matter if they challenge the status quo. Exxon is suing it's shareholders because shareholders want to vote to put preventing climate change over short term profits.

maybe... just maybe, not everything should be a commodity for the 'free market' to operate on? maybe?

@@grumpyoldman6503 The mistake is to believe that the market is "free" heh

@@3nertia absolutely, in the long term and in the presence of competition (you know, the good part of capitalism economists like to dwell on because it's a good fairy tale where costs go down and quality goes up), profit trends towards zero. capitalists are interested in monopoly and rents, not competition (also subsidy, which is leveraged via corruption of political power).

My understanding is that he is arguing that we no longer live(?) under capitalism (as commonly understood and at least least not completely) and that it’s actually reverted back to feudalism. One key factor being the lack of a labor market. The novel part is that the feudalism has mutated to be primarily digital or in the cloud via(?) state funding/investment, privatization, what have you. Something like that

Shoshana Zuboff

Yeah. It's just same old capitalism but with surveillance aspects to it. People didn't say capitalism was over when the public relations industry or the oil industries rose up.

how is it 'surveillance capitalism' if what we are witnessing isn't capitalism

If you like hope, read his book 'Another Now'. Great book although the plot is a shallow device for the message.