Capturing a BOSS Metal Zone on the Neural DSP Quad Cortex… Can you Hear the Difference? 

If you're interested in testing another amp/pedal capture feature, I have a free plugin I made for fun called the SmartPedal that uses similar technology to the Quad Cortex. There's a tutorial on my channel of a pedal capture as well. Thanks!

Tried my boss NS-2 a couple days ago, you can't even hear the difference!

About to capture a monster cable.

I’m going to capture my axe fx ultra.

I’ll capture new ernieball strings.

I'll capture my ex gf

It's terrifying when you're not expecting it! We've got a video of Rabea attempting to scare Pete with it coming soon... 😂

SO , how exactly does the capturing work, I assumed youd need to min max every control so the unit could analyze whats going on, but it seems to just run a signal through ?

@@tharsgaard663 I think it captures a setting on a pedal rather than the entire pedal which would be probably unreasonable from a practical point of view.

@@ERWebster Yeah I read some other comments after asking , seems if you want to emulate specific tones from a pedal then the pedal needs to be set like that before you capture, then captured again for any different tones

@@andertons Are those sounds too loud for apartment amp captures?

I was just thinking of going to a concert with other bands and digging a dude's amp tone and just coming there "mind if I capture your amp?" and then I can use that sound too wow

I bought a Femder Twin Reverb off a guy that didn’t even use it, just captured on his Kemper and sold for $800. I was like ha! Sucker! Now I have the Quad Cortex which is arguably better than the Kemper and my poor Twin is crying. I’m like, “you too heavy baby”

As seen on the TC G-System 12 years ago.

Awesome for studio? Yes Awesome for Stage? No That thing would be safely tucked in a rack with a bulletproof Midi-controler taking the beatings and beers out front if I were to take it on the road

I saw it. It was a great episode!

Anything for Pete, Rabea and of course The Captain! :)

I was incredibly confused when I couldn't find it after I saw it on my home page

Thank you!

I'm more confused that you talk about a video you haven't uploaded yet at the beginning. Blindfold test?

Lol

You won’t buy them and return them when anyone online can share them. But you will still dream of having a real Klon. Keep chasing that tone!

Wouldn't you still want to play through a cab? For that you need a power section, and one of the few things the quad cortex is not is a power amp.

@@ERWebster the time has come my friend. Tube amp era is damm near no more.

@@ERWebster I play a headrush directly into PA and have no need for a cab. Comes back thru wedge or in ears. Why lug what isn't needed

@@daveg4236 Sure that makes sense for gigs, but what about playing at home, rehearsing, or just noodling around? I think I would be unhappy using just monitors for that.

@@ERWebster rehersal is the same as a gig...into PA. At home noodling and learning I just slap on flat response headphones and practice songs. Has an aux in so iPad in and learn the song. What I hear in my ears is very close to what we hear in rehearsal and gigs

What are you using to hear it?

@@neildeakin4454 I have it plugged into the footswitch out on my Peavy invective for now... I know, lol... I have Yamaha HS7'S on the way right now. I think those are sufficient, am I right? I'm knew to the whole Amp modeler thing. Or, were you asking me because you don't know either? Lol

@@GuitarDiddlerJP15 I was asking because I don't know either. I was looking at the Headrush FRFR speakers but the good news for me is that the Blackstar ID 260 TVP I own has a MP3/ line in socket. Tested it with the Cortex and it works. Just need to test it at higher volume to be sure im getting a good reproduction of the Neural captures

@@neildeakin4454 hooking into that on your blackstar will never give you the tones you are looking for... Or maybe it will, just depends on if you can recognize the difference. Idk your experience level... From what I've learned researching for the past few months, frfr speakers or a PA system hooked into an audio interface, then through your computer is optimal. I'm still learning though. My plan is to get those Yamaha speakers and skip my Amp head and cab completely. They will be a separate system that I use. I think all you need is an audio interface, possibly some kind of booster to amplify the sound coming out of the cortex and into the speakers you choose, and then a laptop. So it would go guitar - quad cortex - audio interface (quad cortex is audio interface so you don't need one, some people use a dif one on top though) - computer (with program of your choice for recording and processing) - then to frfr's. Or... You could skip the laptop and just go guitar - quad cortex - power amp - frfr's. You need something to power the speakers though... Unless you choose powered speakers.

@@neildeakin4454 and knew =new... Damn auto correct lol

Looper added a while back

that's actually not impossible at all...

If they aren't sending it, I'm guessing they caught an issue. Better to wait, you don't want her broken

The capture is just a snapshot of the current settings on a pedal but it's still an interesting thing to think about.

@@reallyeffingcooltechnodude It isnt just a snapshot? They also tweaked the settings. I run around 8 overdrive/boost pedals because a single channel amp. If I can drop these out of my board im happy with it.

@@noelhoekstra6852 There's a simple eq and gain builti in the Quad Cortex but it's not the same as the pedal. Like they mentioned in the vid Neural has a knob twisting robot that goes through millions of settings when capturing an amp or a pedal. You could easily capture those pedals with the settings you are using them with when playing live tho

@@reallyeffingcooltechnodude Aah i see!

As I understand, you only capture one position of the pedal's knobs. If you change the position of one knob, you'll need to 'capture' it again to get it inside the Quad Cortex. So, the pedals are stil useful if you want to play with the thousands of possible knob combination settings of your pedal.

Don't joke too much about that : it was the amp of the begining of the norwegian black metal, some people can be interessed.

That's mostly my plan. Sell some after I see what the QC can do. But I want to keep my non vanilla effects

And only one year later, they revert back to the real thing and pay 1.5 times the money for their old pedals.... 😁

@@heidegeistlicher sad, but true. ..

Yes but sell the pedals sooner as possible cause people will be buying the quad, and nobody will want to buy pedals anymore. And the market will change from selling real pedals to selling pedal captures online

@@guitarsfunmods3986 nope. People will always love pedals. There’s a giant market for them. The real pedal is just more fun to deal with. I’m not selling anything but one right now . Only because I don’t like it and I need money for this. Plus, I use real pedals with the Kemper and thre helix. They need it for feel and sound. They don’t react like a tube amp. A great tube amp and a great distortion, overdrive or fuzz will never be better than these. They’re fun to fool with but I play way more plugged into an amp than a modeler etc. tweaking it constantly. The best modeler out there anyway with power at only $799 or less used is the Yamaha 100hd double modeler. Simple. Plug in and play. Feels and sounds great. Totally overlooked. Yamaha owns line6 now anyway.

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That’s what I’m confused about. How would they capture reverb and delays. It would have to be as is, right? There’s no way you could tap in a delay after capturing it, or any way to adjust the delay or verb.

@@thatsmynamesowhat2949 You capture a snapshot of the pedal, but not the whole functionality of the pedal. The point is you want to capture the usable "sweet spots" of the pedal, which can sometimes take time with the real deal to figure out. The Cortex will give you gain and EQ leeway, but that won't react like any of the knobs on the pedal. Same with Kemper profiles. It's a snapshot of the amp, preferably in good settings. So you might find the profile a tiny bit sub par, but with the real amp some minor adjustments might bring it alive with your guitar/pedals/etc. So in reality, you'd rather find what works for you with the real amp, then capture that setting.

I could't agree more. I think as guitarists with amps and pedals we are people that love tech, and some of this newer stuff is absolutely amazing gear for what it does and can do. But at the end of the day, for me at least, it's really a question of how much this or that new gadget costs. I probably have this much money invested in pedals, but I invest(ed) that money a little at a time, which is what I could do, and what most guitarists can do. I doubt that I can make one large purchase for something like this, only to have it outdated in a year or so unless I were to finance it. I've considered financing things like this but ultimately, after trying something like this out, I just go home and plug in my Keeley Tone Workstation and Ibanez Tube Screamer into my old ME-80 with my delay and chorus after that, and run it all through amps. The old pedals work for what I'm going for, and if I feel the need or want for something a little different I can purchase another pedal for the fraction of the cost. But ultimately there are different players with different needs. I suppose if someone were just starting out and had the cash then this is an outstanding option, but for us folks that already have our gear and don't mind carrying it around when needed, I can't justify it for myself. When I plug in my existing setup it sounds how I want it to sound and does everything it needs to do. Like I said though, different players have different needs and I can see the draw to this type of technology. Small, light weight, very portable, and sounds pretty fracking awesome.

The amount of money I have spent on amps and pedals in the past like most of us is in the thousands. The amount that I have then sold because again, like most of us "I was chasing that tone" is head shakingly ridiculous. I think this definitely has it's pros and cons and assuming the hype is true, the pros far outweigh the cons plus it is going to save me an absolute f**k tone of money in the long run.

P.S. Guys, no hate, I come here to debate, not to be right. I'm always interested in what other people have to say and their point of view.

@@normanbates5182 yeah I agree. My opinion though is that a great valve amp will always sound like a great valve amp. If you buy a good used valve amp, it's always going to worth what you paid (maybe more). Tech dates quickly, and becomes obsolete fast. I absolutely love it though, they sound great. Just can't justify the cost for me!

@@SquidgyPickle Absolutely. I will never get rid of my Carr Mercury V, or Marshall SV20. I guess the point I was trying to make but didn't quite hit the mark is that when going to a music store for example, you could take this unit in with you to get a reference point in how an amp sounds with "your own setup" I will also be holding onto all of my boutique pedals.

Thanks for tuning in Kyle!

Looks can be deceiving...

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@@jeshvidmikkelsen4525 IMHO, Kemper is very limited, compared to Axe FX. This device has the best of both worlds. If you don't get this, you must be deaf!