Carcharodontosaurus vs Giganotosaurus | Who is the king of Ark? 

3:15 "all gigas in the area" don't go into a rage? It's only the one giga that got damaged that will rage. it's a very core aspect of giga fights in pvp that whoever rages first usually loses, though raged gigas can and will attack everything nearby and maybe cause a chain reaction if left unchecked.

Giga definitely desperately needs a TLC… if only the giga TLC mod was integrated into the base game

Giga's on PVE have top Dmg so far since they are capped. Carchar's beiing worked on. Carchars, move fast, can push past trees with ease and get over most rocks. They have a pretty good fall damage. so you can jump off quite a bit of cliffs without worry and they regain health faster than gigas. If capped to max dmg carchars will decimate especially with 100% buff. Tail whip amazing for gen 2 boss fight. Extinction drops a must. Carchars turn so much easier. Easy to get food with carchar because of speed. Theres more but can't think been up all night lol. For me Carchar all the way.

I think the Carcharo is a bit underrated when it comes to damage, my father has his Gigan at a base damage of 50% imprinting at 70%. Meanwhile my Carcharos’ that I’ve recently started breeding have 50% base damage imprinting to 76%. I think well bred Carcharos will become far more comparable as they settle into the game.

I'm loving the health regen of the carc, it's the only dino that I can ignore its health and just keep killing, it replaced my giga on pve already

I never realized hes so damn fast when he kills something, and i thought spino’s were scary!

Comparing a Rex to a Raptor in comparison to a Giga makes more sense now that there is a gigantic Allo as well😁

Carchar just seems to have a bit more use than giga, and that blood rage do be busted tho

Thank you for this video and lying down everything we need to know in this comparison😁👍🏼

I like carcharo just cos of it's design 😂

Why can’t we all agree that having both the gig and carch will greatly increase your game play. Sure gig will kill the carch as syntac showed in one of his videos. Carch has several different aspects that make it worth taming and having. And well gigs will be gigs! Lol

Giga is a risk to the rider and it’s allies, I’d use the giga as a suicidal battering ram for gates or drop a few inside the base to wreck havoc on the survivors and tames left unchecked, while waiting for them to kill the suicidal Gigas or waiting till the rage is done I’ll head in with the carch, yuty, direwolves and Rex army to get rid of the last of the tames. Obviously if it’s metal and tek it’s going to be hard but a man can dream

lol i remember doing this same test and thinking "This would make a good youtube video"

Tbh, char has better anims, model and sounds than giga in every aspect.

the giga looks so terrifying

Where's this whole idea that Gigas are "useless in PVE" come from? Speak for yourself, a high level imprinted Giga with a good saddle is extremely useful in PVE on pretty much every map. A meat and hide gathering machine! A dino that will straight up power level you! A partner in crime for stealing wyvern eggs(lure the wyverns out of the trench to the waiting giga and have your way with their eggs!). A tame that can easily and quickly solo kill any other non-boss dino on any map(including wild gigas, carchars, and titanos). There's no other big land tame I'd rather have than a high level imprinted giga with a good saddle!

Bro I'm so sad. I found a beautiful 95 carcharodontosaurus in the snow that I wanted to tame, and I found a throw away level 15 that I tamed because it was the opposite gender, so I practice taming on the 15 and move on to the level 95, only to find out she's gone. Now I have a useless carchar that only does 85 damage, and I can't even ride it till I gain 10 more levels

I think you were right on. I agreed with your assessment entirely. Well explained!

the only thing the giga really does better is AEO, Carcha will easily rage a giga 1v1 and get 2-3 bites while the giga does it raging animation making the 500 more base damage useless not even counting the rapid healing that counter acts the gigas higher base dmg when both full raged, carcha can easily tail whip a raged giga away avoiding the rage damage, Carcha will easily be able to 1v2 1v3 giga with raging giga and knocking them away with its right click both at 254points in damage Carcha wins and its not even close

im actually impressed by the balancing technique done to char

The nerfed the giga into the ground only bred ones are insanely op now. I mean they did need a nerf but not as bad as they did. They used to to be able to take on thousands of tames with np cause they would just one to two shot most tames. Enraged they go absolutely bonkers.

The Carchar is awesome! Looks amazing!

I would say the Carchar are really good for OSDs cause you always have 100% buff

carcharo requires less mutations since it can stack damage quickly with his kill buff and killing larger creatures (even unclaimed ones or enemy ones) will increase the counter by a lot its also faster, heals faster, dont rage, has a slightly higher stam, can speed buff other dinos, can decrease incomming heal in enemy dinos and players and also slows anything with this debuff

i would still consider using the Giga but if you want a fast easy strong tame early in the server surely go for the char

When talking about health you said the Giga vs. Carcharo had a 1,000 point difference. However, on your chart, you showed that the Giga has a base health of 80,000 vs. a Carcharo having 70,000, which would be a difference of 10,000 health points. To compare the tamed versions of the Giga vs. Carcharo you have to use a formula. This is the formula for figuring out the health of a tamed dino... Health points = (Base health * (1 + # of levels into health * (Wild level increase on wiki / base value of stat on wiki)) + additive taming bonus on wiki) * (1 + taming effectiveness * multiplicative taming bonus) This is a fair comparison of a tamed Giga vs. a tamed Carcharo with each having no levels distributed into health and a 99.71% taming effectiveness inputed into the formula... Giga (tamed) V = (80000 * (1 + 0 * (40/80000)) + -63000) * (1 + 0.9971 * 0 * 0) V = (80000 * (1 + 0) - 63000) * (1 + 0) V = (80000 * 1 - 63000) * 1 V = 80000 - 63000 V = 17,000 health Carcharo (tamed) V = (70000 * (1 + 0 * (56/70000)) + -54000) * (1 + 0.9971 * 0 * 0) V = (70000 * (1 + 0) - 54000) * (1 + 0) V = (70000 * 1 - 54000 * 1 V = 70000 - 54000 V = 16,000 health *Max Bloodrage buff increases healing by 1.75x In the damage section, you're talking about their base damage wild, not tamed. They both do get the same amount of debuff after taming. They both receive a -80% damage taming bonus additive. So, both of them are equally disadvantaged by this debuff. Here is the formula for damage... Melee damage% = (Base melee damage% * (1 + # of levels into melee damage * (Wild level increase on wiki / base value of stat on wiki)) + additive taming bonus on wiki) * (1 + taming effectiveness * multiplicative taming bonus) Here is a Giga and Carcharo with each having no levels in melee damage and 99.71% taming effectiveness... Giga (tamed) V = (1 * (1 + 0 * (25/500)) + -0.80) * (1 + 0.9971 * 0.4 * 0) V = ((1 + 1 * 0) - 0.80) * (1 + 0) V = (1 - 0.80) * 1 V = 20% Carcharo (tamed) V = (1 * (1 + 0 * (10.55/211)) + -0.80) * (1 + 0.9971 * 0.4 * 0) V = ((1 + 1 * 0) - 0.80) * (1 + 0) V = (1 - 0.80) * 1 V = 20% Both would result in a total of 20% melee damage with 1 level into the melee damage stat. So, now simply multiply that (20%) times their base melee damage value to determine their raw damage output... Tamed Giga with 1 level in melee damage and 99.71% taming effectiveness 20% of 500 = 100 damage Rage mode (2x damage) = 100 x 2 = 200 damage Carcharo with 1 level in melee damage and 99.71% taming effectiveness 20% of 211 = 42 damage Max Bloodrage buff (1.75x damage) = 42.2 x 1.75 = 74 damage In conclusion, after doing all this research and calculations I determined that you are actually pretty spot on with all your findings! All this math doesn't change much because the Giga and Carcharo have the same multipliers. I just am providing some additional information that could prove useful for some people making the comparison.

carcharo requires less mutations since it can stack damage quickly with his kill buff and killing larger creatures (even unclaimed ones or enemy ones) will increase the counter by a lot ,..,.

Im gonna miss ark 1 so much

Giga will always be my fav.if carcha didn't have that pathetic roar I'd be all over it but emersion is important, and there's just a feeling you get on a giga you can't get from other dinos.however,carcha is faster,more agile,and lack of rage mode makes it more ideal in pvp settings.pve and single player don't have to worry bout that so it's preference really.but it does seem faster for those meat runs to load the hatchery if using a carcha.but ultimately the giga will be my favorite tame in this category

Definitely prefer carcs, outside of pvp and titans they are far nicer to work with, because of their insane regen you don't have to worry about cliffs (as much) as they will out heal the fall damage, they can go non stop through all OSD at 100+ melee they don't even need saddles to do it, they out class the Giga on gen missions just due to no enrage and their speed/mobility.

The damage should have been tested in dps not Base damage

Carcha has the edge because of the lack of rage. If it’s bred right I’m sure it’ll 1 tap enrage gigas

It's been years since the incident... But every time I see a giga it reminds me of logging on to ark and seeing my base in shambles with with a gaping hole leading to the outside. I took a breath, and checked tribe log only to see that the poor fool who broke into my base somehow lost a 220 something Giga, 2 Rexes, and a few other assorted tames to the 40 odd hyenas I had chilling in the back of my base lol Poor dude didn't even get any of my loot as it was hidden outside my base 😂

Verry nice video I don't like the people how set the carcha on top only because it's the newest dino. End looks cool.

Speed matters more than absurd damage. Decent/ high damage with speed over crazy damage with low speed any day.

I personally think carcharo are better ifffff you get the buff witch can take time to build up fully

That was a very informative video

Great video man easy sub

I agree as in giga lines form in less than a minute and you won't be able to run around chasing wild animals trying to buff your car char, I think that gigas will still remain at the top of pop Dinos

Nice

Giga has a good roar. But Carchar is much stronger. When both are topstats and fully imprinted ☝️ Mine slaughters wild gigas with ease and super healing and damage increase per kill. So the isn’t impressive at first, but the carchar is invincible once it has a kill streak. It can kill even wild gigas lv 150

Char is the best Companion Giga is the best Weapon

Now raiding a base trying to be quite is hard with a giga as you can hear them from a good distance but the carc is better for raiding base without really being heard right off the bat

Reaper king:" am i a Joke to you ?"

Fun fact gigas carcar are brothers

My boy giga is still king of the hill!

For me giga has the second best roar behind reaper

I still have not found any on island, fjordur or lost island maps so far. Checked all giga locations to no avail.

Imagine that trilobite knocks down your camera

Yk what ima get both

The world water still reigns supreme.

given time the carc will over take the giga for the damage and lack of rage alone a giga line is useless when you rage in one bite and the appointment dose not and with max blood that regen makes it hard to poke down with bows and shotguns

I ran an OSD on Extinction on an unofficial cluster and the Carchar outdid the Giga by far with the giga having a good bit higher base melee

We need a charginatosaurus 😂

I think the carc is just gonna be used as a replacement for rexes

irl dinasaurs cant roar so charcha is winner of the roar round for me

Including blood rage is a bit unrealistic since you probably wouldn’t have it built up or even have it when you find a random ass giga chillin

So in pvp you should build a giga army that you lead with a char

0:42 more like the allosaurus

The infestation of squerpion

CARCH is definitely far more superior than the giga! Especially considering you have to get the giga to rage and then when it does it will more than likely kill you. nah ill stick with the Carch

I like Giga cuz it’s GIGA CHADE

Ima say giga because purely you can hypothetically tame a carcho when you just spawn in

okay, with all this being said, if u run into a giga, at least you have a chance to kill it lol, carch can beat it. and like all the cons for it, its scary how close it is to the giga

The way I see it they have slightly different uses, a pocket giga will always be better than a pocket carchar since without time bloodrage the carchar is kinda ass. But for OSDs the carchar will be a great choice. the carchar also has better mobility so id rather use it for meat runs as well.

You forgot to mention the Debuff the Carcha gives to enemies when he attacks them.

Bro I have been looking forever for this carchar but I can't find it anywhere. I even looked at spawn maps. Any tips in finding this guy? You'd think it'd be easy because he's so big. On xbox fjordur btw

If I’m being honest, the carcharodontosaurus looks like dominion giga because of the head

giga for rex lovers carcha for spino lovers one of them is heavy and strong other one is fast and furious

The giga shit himself when you said the carchar is better 🤣

everything just depends on imp buff saddles mate boost and all that good stuff

Gonna go with basilisk :) I kill both of those dinos 1 on 1 and sometimes 1 on 2 in the oilfields of fjordor. 31k hp 21670 atk. 150s put up a real good fight though.

the carch is way faster and cooler than the giga.I would choose the carch cause it has fast health reagen if I were to fight the king titan especially since their like yutys with their roar.giga8/10 carch9/10

Acro is the KING

Never let them know hire next move…ITS ACTULLY DODO

Sooo is this Dino being added to ark mobile, or just for console, and pc??

Hey guys Does anyone else suffer from the bug where the charchar sniffs a killed body and wont proceed to eat it? Pls help :1

Let the mutations start for a crazy version of it gigas are powerfull but wondering what a Hatch egg of 1000 +melee would be as end results. Its Just came out let see in time what this beast really can become.

How does the Char measure up on an Extinction Purple Drop?

I just never use giga, the rage mode is way too dangerous

Is depend of the health not to the number of dinos if you kill 1 dinos with high health you got blood rage faster than you kill very little things

Nothing beats the og

Giga on top baby! Pvp fights with 2k dmg are a breeze 😂

How do i get the old carcharodontosaurus b4 it got huge and op?

What about food drain rate ? Giga get starve really fast , Carcha is the same ?

The true kings of ark are troodons!, no matter what lvl u are, they find a way to surprise you & knock ur butt out 🤣

I honestly don't see why everybody loves the giga. Sure it can dmg stone. But that is a PVP only thing. I remember testing my friend's 450+ heavily bred and full imprinted giga against my 270+ spino and rex both only partial imprints. Spino and Rex beat the Giga on dps. Giga is just stupid and annoying to use. I hope to any and all deities that they don't have stupid oversized historical creatures in ARK 2.

I don't think a raged giga is a good comparison, because it goes berserk and kills everything, making it not really your tame anymore.

I think you forgot an important detail when it comes to base damage values and that is that poison to damage affect the percent means you have a much larger bang for your buck on a giga getting points in the damage me do you want a car Carp end for the car car. It is going to be exponentially weaker at level compared to the giga.

Giga health mutation/lv up is nurfed . Can you make it tanky

carcharodonto is the best for killing a titanosaurus

How does it work if I want to play with the old additional creatures car car. And the new a r k one?

now give the carc the bloodlust stacks at 100 Then watch the giga loose the carc also moves faster so the carc has control on when the battle actually starts, not the giga so anyone riding these 2 at the same level carc would win simply because the carc can avoid the giga always to get the blood lust to win everytime at the same level with similar stats. In the wild they dont agro eachother so you cant do a real battle accurately without using the carcs full ability. Only people without a brain would try to fight a giga without the bloodlust at max. The giga would never kill a carc simply because you couldnt catch it riding a giga.

Giga beats CharChar in taming because Gigas have a less complex taming method than Charchar sense I doubt anyone who wants to tame a Charchar would probably fail

Giga needs tlc ⬇

Giga musy be the king of ark cuz Gigas got in the game first and the carchas just got born in the game few months ago

A friend of mine took his 142 carcar to fight a 15 giga, and the giga melted him.

A lvl 20 carchar almost killed my Lvl 425 giga

Do the roar

Id say gigs better for defense car car better for attacking