Carl is spot on. And the comment that NASCAR'S biggest problem is NASCAR is so TRUE. NASCAR screwed Carl out of a Championship. I can not blame him for stepping away. Big Bill would be pissed off if he saw what they have done to his beloved sport.
Not just an opinion it's a fact, i was getting into NASCAR when I was young but then watched a guy with a half lap lead with 2 laps left (guaranteed win) get placed RIGHT beside the guy in 2nd place because someone in last place wrecked. Which had ZERO effect on a legit outcome. I noped tf outta NASCAR the next day. SCREAMS RIGGED for betting. Trashcar I've called it ever since, glad a driver sees it finally
For me it was destroyed when Earnhardt Sr. died by someone just shoving cars out of the way, and then NASCAR took no corrective action. They let using the car to hit other cars out of the way to pass become the standard practice, so I was immediately out.
It's always sucked for the most part there was a time in the 90s it was ok when they had some big name drivers and they were still allowed to drive aggressively.
I ducked out in the 70s when the Dodge Boys picked up their marbles and went to play EVERYWHERE else...I never did like Ralph Nader's agenda... NASCAR put him up to making that public statement about the Dodge Daytona... and as soon as he did they outlawed it from competition.. I am embarrassed FOR them.. Bunch of wormy suckers! Why do you have to be a team owner or an engine builder before you can get a rule book? Possibly Because they change the rules after every race!
@petesmith5092 lol dodge pulled out of nascar in 1985, decades after the superbird/Daytona stuff. And they outlawed them because they were ridiculous.
I love the idea of stage racing overall as far as points go. I would hate seeing a driver doing great the entire race just to have some shmuck cause him to wreck, with 5 laps to go. I think it really rewards the better drivers, and it’s really not that big of a deal. To his argument, basketball and other sports do stop every quarter or period.
@johnrhodes your statement sounds like something that I could have wrote different drivers but sing concept I love Dale Earnhardt I was Mark Martin and Geoff bodine of course I liked Alan kuluiki also but he died in 1992 or maybe he was 92 champion and died in 93 I can't remember it's been a couple years 2101875
“We’re too fast? Slow them down on some tracks. You know what? Just slow them down a little bit. Heck, let’s make them as slow as possible for closer packs!” One of many stupid nascar decisions.
The same thing goes for the fial 10 races for the championship. Thats not much difference if you’re in a poker game and you continue toallow the one loses their money to play the next hand as double or nothin.Sooner or later the loser will walk away a winner.
You are 💯 correct!! Cautions are thrown all the time for unnecessary issues!!! Which takes away a win for a driver only to benefit another driver 😠 😡 We all have eyes, Nascar!! Miss you, Carl Edward's!!
Carl is right on point, no, ifs, ands,or buts about it. Racing died the day they went to the new scoring system. How can you be the points leader and not be the overall champion 🤔
Absolutely. People who have argued with me about it say "what about in x year where dale sr. or Jeff Gordon just couldn't finish in last in the last race. That's not exciting." OK, they got in that position because they EARNED that spot. They performed well enough to GET in that spot."
@@Crowe0920my response to the people who piss and moan about being entertained is grab a lawn chair and go sit in the hood after sunset if that’s all you care about. Racing is not going to be “entertaining” every single second. These are the same dipshits who think the artificial pack racing of today is actually good.
@@Crowe0920exactly people don't get that the teams worked very hard to get those points all year not just win one race to get in the playoffs. "Playoffs"..... Stupid Stage racing and most of all the lucky dog. Free pass to get a lap back SMH.....
@georgemayhew1283 If I were in that position of being first in points and having a dominating season, only to not be the champion because of "playoffs" bullshit, I would be pissed
To Me, Nascar Back When Motors Would Blow Every Race And Also Would Cause Cautions Due To Liquid On Track. The Caution Would Bunch Up The Field Which Was Good Till The Field Spread Out Again. Then, All Of A Sudden The Motors Got Bulletproof.Now The Races Got Boring.So Nascar's Way To Bunch Up The Field Was T9 Start With The Stages. My Opinion.
@thefutureman8577 NASCAR viewership was declining hand over fist long before the rule changes. Rule changes were implemented to get more people to watch on TV. They weren't making money on die hard racing enthusiasts, so they had to go after new markets. It's all about money bro
Agree , nascar screwed up big time . Changing the rules every year hoping someone other then Jimmie Johnson would win the title. Stop watch 10 years ago
So you enjoyed a runaway leader races for 4 hours? Not exciting to watch at all. Restarts are very exciting, I love them. I want passing, not parading, bu by
@@Ozzy3333333idk from a drivers perspective it’s a really shitty idea. Why even go all out in round one when you can just survive till round two. Round one is just a glorified qualifying for a driver then. Passing is cool but when it’s forced upon the viewer and not just a random event (a safe crash where everyone is ok) then even passing loses its value. And it will lose more value for the racing drivers. Just my thoughts not coming at you or anything. I don’t watch nascar so what do I know lol.
@@knivess3 I been a road racer for 3 decades, then a friend turned me onto ovals and it changed my perspective a lot. Closer racing, more exciting, setup is more important and tire management. The stage racing gives points, they are not racing to the stage win for nothing.
@@Ozzy3333333So the team(s) that puts in the effort have to suffer for the slackers? NASCAR's, everybody gets a trophy. I give them ten years and where you finish won't matter because we don't want to hurt a drivers feelings.
@@Spike-sk7ql I didnt mind the playoff system unless they’ve changed it again. But I stopped watching when they added the splits in. Makes no sense imo.
Half way through the race NASCAR creates a less safe race scenario by throwing a caution where the cars are now bunched back up, causing a better chance that cars will make contact when the green flag returns. Catl Edward's was a smart man who valued health and happiness over manipulation disguised as a safety concern, that ny happening increased the odds that a crash would occur involving several cars with the drivers inside whose chances of possible injuries are increased due to the pack being stacked back up by the yellow that shouldn't be thrown unless doing so is to regain control over a safety issue, ie. a wreck or a car losing parts or dumping a crankcase full of oil on the track. A potato chip bag blowing around the track won't destroy a tire and cause a crash, but it will push chosen drivers back into contention if it's used to throw a caution and let chosen drivers catch back up to the the pack if a small issue put them a half lap down. Carl was smart to walk away from what NASCAR was destroying by their decisions that, in some cases, decreased drivers' safety. NASCAR and their boneheaded decisions have destroyed their brand, and stock car racing at its top level quit being fun for everyone, and we are berter off supporting local tracks, even if its a short quarter mile on dirt, ots still real racing without NASCAR screwing it up.
@@Spike-sk7ql - I think the figure is far upwards of even 600,000- 800,000 fans that NASCAR lost when they started the idiotic "Stage Racing" = it is probably millions upon millions of fans (not just in North America but around the world) that are no longer interested in NASCAR. Look at all of the empty stands since 2 years ago, that are getting smaller and smaller.
@@DonVideoGuy007 Oh I know that it's millions total. I was just talking about each year. It's actually sad to see empty seats at races now. I even hate seeing empty seats for Indycar races outside of the 500. I miss the racing from the 80s through the end of the Winston Cup.
Listen, i am hardly even a casual fan. I would watch daytona w my pops, and will occasionally watch daytona or dega, if i see its on. I had a stretch of going over seas to vacation in Afghanistan a few times, and i swear i get home on an r and r, and im at a buddies house, him and his dad are watching daytona and im like, "whats the deal w the cars? What do they do teams now or something?" Because i missed the bump drafting thing start, and seeing it looked re tarded. THEN i learn they are gonna have a championship race to determine the winner, which i thought was cool, "so they are just gonna let the top 10 or 12 guys race, that will be cool.". "No, they all still race." Oh, so its just another race, that 80% of the people have zero stakes in, and are only in the way? Awsome. Then learning about stages and the noose/blm bullshit, turned me off for good.
@@tblattel3873 From what little I've watched in terms of NASCAR video essays (from fans) the 2004-ish version of "The Chase" (IE before the shit was called "the playoffs" or whatever) was actually pretty good. But yea, stages, especially more than TWO stages to the race are stupid as hell.
@@Drunken_Hamster It was never good. The only thing that made the first "Chase" exciting was that three different guys during the last race led the standings at various points during the race. The problem with The Chase though has always been it's reliance on the final 10 races of the season to determine the champion. Completely negating what you did the 26 races before it other than winning a race and getting locked it. Not to mention that during the 10 race playoff the teams that don't make it are still racing. Nascar wanted a stick n ball type playoff but in those sports if you lose, you're out. Not in Nascar lol.
he isn't. he isn't at all. Races got boring as hell. i still watched. but watching a caution free 400 lap race that was over in lap 90 because a guy had a 17 second lead on the field was not interesting. It's way more strategy now. points. stage points. playoff points. give and take. choose what is important to you. People are just too dumb to understand it so they say they don't like it.
Amen! Was. Is. And will ever be...the BEST (for all aspects in racing competetion intelligents) ever in racing. WHY he retired in prime of his career. He IS smarter & safer then ALL the crooked heads who run nascar today!
You know what’s not racing. I mean quite literally NOT RACING is when Johnson and Gordon would drop to the very back of the pack and just cruise around for 480 miles at Talladega or Daytona just to avoid being in “the big one” and then decide to “race” the last 20 laps
the greedy france family is running NASCAR out of business and will have plenty of cash to play with after NASCAR is gone. CARL is 100% right. stopping a race to let all the loosers catch up is a chickenshit way to operate
They stopped caring about racing or the teams/drivers several years ago. It’s no longer about racing, it’s about sports entertainment. Just like WWE, according to Vince McMann, isn’t wrestling, it’s sports entertainment. Big Bill is rolling over in his grave.
Vince had to call wrestling sports entertainment or all his wrestlers were going to go to jail for using drugs. Because they weren't a sport and were an entertainment company. Lol.
Spot On my friend! Nascar today is like looking at an OLD WOMAN that got Tons of Plastic surgery to make her appear HOT! But she looks like a Hidious Old Freak that no MEN who grew up seeing REAL BEAUTIFUL women desire to be with
I agree 100% Carl there is no such thing anymore as a 500 mile race. It's either twin 250s or four 125s. It's the pussification of NASCAR it happened quite a while ago.....
You seem to have missed the point of the video, he's not in nascar anymore. When I visited california, everybody gave me crap about being from Kansas, and I shut them down by saying yeah, as in not there anymore, dumas!!
Carl left because of the injuries he was seeing to the other drivers he also left because of all the new rules the playoff system all that crap. He always said that the old Winston cup format was what he loved and what it should.still be today you race for a season and the best car for the season won.
I left nascar when Carl left. He was robbed of a legitimately earned championship due to nascars manipulation of the caution flag to obtain the outcome they wanted.
We get 2 dates including a Chase race and don't bother anymore. Quit going when they went to the ridiculous stage breaks. Just 2 more race stoppages that the fans didn't want!!
@@Mike-xt2ot last 20 years championship results would look different under pre-chase points system. JJ wouldn’t have 7 & I think Harvick would’ve had one more. It doesn’t make sense to me that seasons best driver based on points will be champion
He's 100% correct. I know NASCAR is a popular sport, but most older and hard core fans have dropped off the wayside... It's like the younger generations participation trophy... Sad what racing has become...
I was one of those diehard fans that left, when they became woke, instead of a sport, I stopped watching, following, etc. Makes so sad and sick to my stomach.
Salute to Carl, he was 100% right about this..he was cheated out of a championship. Things like this is exactly why I quit watching NASCAR , years ago!..and it feels wonderful!..😊
I used to never miss a race now I don’t even give a crap about see it or not. I hadn’t watch a full race in several years and don’t plan on doing it. They got too many rules and regulations now and what does a crew chief do now the old way, the crew chief look for a way to give his driver an advantage to get him to finish line 1st, now he gets penalized if he changes the least thing
He's 100% correct. I miss the legends ,cars, competition,heart and atmosphere of watching old NASCAR races. Just doesn't give me the same satisfaction anymore.
Like any endurance racing.. The Strategy is key, ever evolving to complete against seen/unseen challenges as they appear, changing the Race every lap, Adapting to overcome this is the essence of Auto Racing...
This is exactly why most of America lost interest in NASCAR because watching a 500 mile race that doesn’t matter a damn bit until the last 75 laps. They can just go ahead and check in the last half hour and learn everything that they need to know.
@@Therealcrazyhands Depends on the type of wreck. There are so many variables that you'd have to mention a specific situation. The current safety systems that exist on track are single yellows, double yellows, Virtual safety car, full safety car and redflag. Virtual safety car, full safetycars and redflags are the only ones that can affect the race which can either be positive or negative. For example if the leader hadn't pit yet, they now get a "free" pitstop under a VSC or safety car or redflag without losing track position. But if the leader had pitted and built a gap, his advantage gets erased under safety car and redflag situation. Safetycar situation is always the last resort and are only brought out after assessing the situation. Redflags are usually called after a safety car but this only get called if the barrier need repairing, a car is stuck in the barrier or there are multiple cars involved. Also if it's raining there are more inclined to call a redflag coz of the reduced visibility. It isn't as black and white, it isn't perfect but it works are whether a racer race gets affected or not is for the most part down to luck...
He's 100% correct. It's no longer the Daytona 500 (for example), it's the Daytona 150 + Daytona 150 + Daytona 200, and NASCAR even scores it that way because there are "winners" after each stage.
I wasn't a Carl Edwards fan but I have to admit he's right, not only on this but he has also said to take away the side skirts and raise the cars off the ground a little to make the cars less dependent of front down force. Give them horsepower and put in drivers hands.
It’s not only that. With this present scoring system, a dominant driver throughout the year can win 10 or more races, strongly compete for more wins, and lose the championship to someone who wins around 4. All because of a flat tire or something in the last race. Its ridiculous. The series is on a road to failure. Maybe it will so racing can be rebooted.
Spot on. I could maybe understand this in F1 or IndyCar where passes and lead-changes are rare. That's why they added things like DRS in F1 and some new thing in IndyCar, to try to provide more competition during the race. Throwing contrived/planned flags in the middle of a race just to stop the race and bunch people back up is bizarre. It defeats the spirit of racing, punishing the drivers who have worked so hard to gain the lead they have earned.
I agree with him that if a driver gets an advantage is because they worked on their equipment to meet the drivers skills. That's what racing is. Speed to equipment to tires and fuel for the length of the race and first car to finish wins. Same thing restrictor plates done. Nows it who stays out of the crashes win instead of the best skill of mechanical and skill for driving to the limit of his equipment.
and they mocked & expelled bill frances son. Between the name changes of the series & a complicated scoring system & the chase is complicated. It is kind of like the electoral voting system. You can win races but lose the series championship on points.
@@creedbratton4064 win on points? Is that not similar to the electoral college where a candidate can lose the popular vote & still win with the electoral college?
@@mikelight495the popular vote is the problem not the electoral college it’s frustrating because when people understand it they love it but when they don’t they hate it
