Absolutely love shows like this!! Some of my favourite episodes are the challenge ones. Inspiration for my board rebuild on Sunday as well..!! Question for Dan - is there a way of doubling up from 9v to 18v using 2 outputs on the GigRig Distributor/Isolator?
What an interesting, entertaining and instructive episode! I especially enjoyed that you put constraints on yourselves - small(ish) boards which limited choices. And then hearing your thought processes about what could go on and what couldn't and why. And then what tremendously lush tones you achieved with two amps you never would have chosen! Goes to show what talent and know-how can do with a modest sized board (admittedly with outstanding guitars and excellent quality pedals). Quality over quantity, eh, mates?
Erm, I don’t really like all the crazy verbs. I just like a basic spring type sound and the Catalinbread does that. Plus has a nice little preampy buffer thing in there too for a kick in the presence. Cheers!
I don't fly with my stuff, but I did have to lift it, so built a country/rock board on a NOVA 18: 18x15x6 inch using NO mini-peds. Where was this video a year ago!!
apologies for my ignorance, but how do pedals into the pedal baby differ from a solid state amp? I understand that if you use something like the Kingsley Maiden, you have a tube pre amp, but if i just chuck a fulltone OCD into a pedal baby, isn't that the same as a solid state amp?? anyway, great video, the challenge videos always are!
This video has a real sense of two mates having fun following their shared passion. Fun brief and really enjoy seeing the tinkering with the boards. Have always enjoyed watching your channel and it has become the steering wheel on the journey of tone.
Just watched a BBC documentary on the VOX AC-30. Who showed up? Mr Mick Taylor! Then working for Guitar Magazine. Great display of Fender,Marshall and VOX. Great job there Mick! Cheers!
The tones when Mick went wet/dry. A-may-zing. Assuming it’s not been dismantled already, could we hear Dans board with and without switcher? A ‘Why do you need a switcher?’ episode maybe? Be really good to show the difference
As nice a that strat sounds and as useful as the valve preamp is, the game changer for both boards was plugging into the Fender tube amp. Getting a good amp is crucial for getting a good sound.
I’d agree - Mick here - alas it’s not always possible. The Kingsley did a good job with the Orange I thought. But yeah, I’d have a Squier and a great amp any day of the week over this 61 and a solid state or modelling thing. Now there’s a video.
Great video. Did this for a gig in Germany once and had some issues at the airport. Turns out the used EHX Small Clone I was using had traces of pyro on it ... cue an “interesting” talk with security 😳! Suffice it to say I now give pedals a good wipe down before flying.
When I go to check in, I always have a screenshot of a NASA Boeing 747 carrying the Space Shuttle on top of it to show in case they say my small pedalboard is too big or heavy. I'm a God level genius... Maybe... Sort of...
It’d be cool to see a “low brow” challenge where all pedals had to be cheap classics available used under $120 or so, ie OCD, DynaComp, Boss pedals, etc.
@@horsehead Do you use the GIF format for all of your giraffe-ics? ;-) (On a similiar note, As a fellow "Gary" I am heartened to see you seem to share my enthusiasm for the debate over the pronunciation of the letter "G"!)
bones really are that color- i cut my hand open on an electric saw once and watched while on the operating table as the doctor sewed my tendon back up. at least while in the body bones are greenish
That Pedal Show Hey guys. I’m wondering why you both choose a tuner, over an extra pedal? I’ve used a Snark for years now, and in a band with piano player, who was a stickler for everyone being in tune. Only reason I ever kept one was because it had a buffer, which helped my WAH play nice with my Bc108 Fuzz Face.
Cool challenge! I have a board exactly of this size, I used a broken music sheets stand, you know the ones you cannot fold, that are one piece of metal with holes? The holes are great for running all the cables :D and I'm using an old suitcase to transport it around with all the cables - the wheels are nice to have!
thanks for including the RYRA. I got my hands on one of those after I made comment about needing a klon clone and the RYRA was your top recomendation. It's an almost-always-on pedal for me.
I would like to see a recording studio day pedal board...what to bring for recording day. I realize you could bring every pedal you own, just throw them all into the car, but it would be fun to see how you guys approach prepping for recording guitars.
I saw Primal Scream at Manchester on Tuesday this week, and their warm up act was the worst live music I have ever seen. They could learn so much about sound from your show, everything you do is gajillion times better than the shit they were putting out.
OMG! For the first time ever, my wife (listening from across the room) asked me to repeat a segment of TPS! She heard the first time "Hello" played followed by me laughing hysterically. After the rewind.. she also laughed hysterically. Never change guys! Moo!
Here is my official gig/travel board: Pedals: Dunlop Cry Baby Mini Wah -> Keeley Aria Compressor and Overdrive -> Keeley D&M Drive Dual Drive Boost -> Line 6 HX Stomp Board and Bag: On-Stage GPB2000 Compact Pedal Board with Gig Bag (cheap, light and small) Power: Mission Engineering Inc 529 USB (for all analog effects), Mission Engineering Inc P-529HC USB (for the HX Stomp) Power sources: AUKEY USB C Charger with 56.5W USB C Wall Charger (to plug to mains) or AUKEY USB C Power Bank, 20000mAh Portable Charger USB C (and AUKEY Power Delivery Power Bank, 10000mAh for backup). Basically, it works on any amp or no amp at all (direct), works even without mains power (runs from power banks for about 8h or more), nice analog gain stages for compression, boost, mid and high gain, nice analog transformer wah pedal, and digital amps/cabs/effects (also the tuner) from the HX stomp. :D. If a nice tube amp is provided, I can use 4CM on the HX stomp just for the effects. I can also practice in the hotel room with headphones and I can record directly to my laptop from the HX Stomp USB.
What's on my carry-on guitar pedalboard: My Polytune 2 sits off the board but gets power from the board. In signal chain order: tc electronic BodyRez, tc electronic SpectraComp compressor, tc electronic Spark mini, One Control Honey Bee overdrive, another tc electronic Spark mini, tc electronic Shaker vibrato, Digitech Whammy Ricochet, Digitech FreqOut, tc electronic Spark booster (used as an amp simulator), tc electronic Brainwaves pitch shifter, tc electronic Mimiq doubler, tc electronic Arena reverb. 13 pedals total, including the tuner.
When travelling, take a strat, unbolt the neck (leaving the strings on), put in suitcase with clothes for padding. Much more portable and less likely to break necks/headstocks.
@@ThatPedalShow would be interesting to see you do. 😊 I know you've spoken about treble boosters before you should think about featuring some treble boosters from knight audio technologies on your show! They build brian May's hand made units that he currently uses.
Feeling very good about my pedal choices! Maiden... ripply falls... 👌👌... i feel that mick's setup would adapt better to the orange pedal baby with the tube preamp...IMHO Dan chose poorly!
Cudos - that was fun! 👍 to Dan‘s board skills - but no D&M ??? Actually,, on a „space is an issue“ board the D&M would most definitively be on there for me.
These are the episodes I truly love. It just puts you on the spot for a limited choice and set up. I think you should do these every 2 months, that way any new pedals that surface will give you a selection headache. really impressed with your selections and it just puts into place what we all are learning, ..... rapidly.. Gold medal guys. I would be interested in your input on how you would set up my budget -ish board ???? thank you Sirs.
BTW, an idea / suggestion for the montage next time - I would have loved to have it more interactive, first dan's selection of pedals, then mick' selection, then one's first part of building the board, then the other's, then again to the first one and so forth, and then both of you saying you're putting on your JAM modulation unit or both taking a humdinger or both using the phrase "...and I'm that kind of player who really can't play without a reverb" :D instead of having two entire separate videos ... would have given a nice touch, both in terms fo following the two stories and in terms of the competition element :D
that quickly put together pedal board of Dan is what i have been trying to get and took me lke 5years or so and his is still better because of all that gigrig sruff... wonderful!..
Lovely show - thank you both. Mick wins for me - tone-wise. But the whole pedalboard build commentary from both and Dan’s custom board carpentry are an inspiration - keep it up guys!
I've just bought a metric ton of pedals because of this week's Black Friday sales. Now I've got to buy a Ripply Fall on JAM Pedals' 20% off sale too(I already bought a Rattler earlier this week).
The Ripply Fall is wonderful. All dials to 10 o'clock works great for both the phase 45 and the chorus either independently or together. Then speed up the phase to about 2 or 3 o'clock and kick on the ? Button and you get the leslie sound. Throw on some reverb behind it for good measure. I use a Broadcast, Harlot V3, and a KOTv4 to drive my amps and while all work great with the Ripply Fall, I enjoy a fuzzy sound with the Broadcast in front of that type of modulation.
Elon Mush ... I agree, this show is close to perfect. It’s like the perfect Thanksgiving bite. My American friends may know what I’m talking about. (A bit of all the dishes all in one bite...)
Awesome show here guys. It's interesting- you recorded this on Halloween, apparently, and we are watching over the Thanksgiving break (in the US)- a whole holiday season ahead. Does this mean on Christmas you guys will be wearing a Turkey sweatshirt? Ha Ha. Although- Brits don't celebrate Thanksgiving do they? Do you have an equivalent Holiday? Maybe one without the historical baggage? ANYWAY- I love this video partly because the amps you are using and the size of the boards actually matches up to what a lot of us are using for our main rigs- good to know you can get great tones with a standard amp and a few pedals. Very informative. I popped over to the Strymon page to check out the DIG. You know- you guys have done a lot of awesome shows (I was just rematching the volante show) on analog delay- it would be awesome to do a show on the DIG- get some old rack gear in, plus a few other modern pedals that offer retro digital sounds and have a go.
Dan - is there a logic/tech reason why toe-down is clean on your expression pedal - or is it just preference? My head just goes to toe-down = wet (because of volume pedals, I think)...
The Strat envy was the highlight of the show. It caught me off guard and made me laugh mightily! Keep the hits coming! The wetter box with the Ripply was awesome and Dan's Start through anything would slay! I really liked the sound of the Maiden with the Topanga! The D&M Drive was also brilliant! Great boards guys!
Carlo Soriasio and the Bottom Inspectors mentioned in one show. Was it just me? Phnaar phnaar. Loving the TPS Camoflange #44 that arrived today chaps! So clean and lush!
So good guys , Thank you for this . I have so been there , for a period of years . The Extremely low budget ,Regional ,Bar, Van tour. Multiple bands at every stop . 3 minute setup. Sound check is your first song . As you guys pictured here . The way I resorted to was Multi effects (This is a few years ago so Boss GT-6-8)(pre Helix and Kemper,which I couldnt have afforded back then anyway :-) )) which was ok some nights ,others not so great . No where near the Tones you guys are getting here .Gonna start building my "travel board " now ...
Hello Jordan. Yes, very much so. They are the MHS (Memphis Historical Spec) which were the closest to ‘vintage’ PAF that Gibson Memphis was offering at the time. Cheers!
Mick, where were your clothes? (disqualified?) - but your tone was better... ;-) Request: Please show more with "Pedal Platform - Specific" Amps like the Orange, Seymour Duncan has a few, EarthQuaker Devices, Gurus Amps 5015, etc... Thanks for a very enjoyable show!
US standard carry-on luggage size is usually 45" total, or 22x14x9, which in centimes is 55.88x35.56x22.86. I built my guitar board on a 7U EIA equipment rack aluminium blanking plate, which is 19x12.25", and fits in my TravelPro Platinum II 22" expandable rollaboard suitcase with room for foam around the edges and leaves enough room for a weekend's worth of clothing and toiletries. My next project is working on a guitar & bass oriented fly rig for hotel headphone practice, recording, and either direct to PA or amp usage at the destination that fits in an underseat "personal item" carry-on, which is a much, much smaller size, think "briefcase" size. These limits vary per carrier, as they all use different seat pitches and seat heights. US airlines are required by the Department of Transportation to allow cabin stowage of musical instruments up to the size of a guitar or bass, provided there is space at the time of boarding, so get there early. Unfortunately, your guitar counts as your "one carry-on", so you are limited to a "personal item" otherwise. Somewhere around, I've written an article detailing the maximum overhead luggage bin sizes, and noted that SKB's iSeries bass guitar flight cases fit the overhead compartments of all commonly deployed aircraft from Boeing. I'm not certain about Airbus, and we've loads of the A300 series in use here. Luggage manufacturers commonly play fast and loose with the "22x14x9" dimensions, which is meant to be absolute maximum, but usually ends up being the size of the case without the wheels and handles.
Mick and Dan, the perfect panto horse pedal board! Sounded bloody fantastic, was surprised at the subtle boost in sound quality that the Kingsley pre provided.
Great work guys! I’m wondering how you’d tweak a Supro amp? Very specifically, the ones that are backline at the Rockwood Music Hall in New York City. Every time I play there I wonder why they use exclusively Supro gear as their house amps, over a Hot Rod Deluxe, etc. Any thoughts on how to dial those in?
So many questions raised by this episode, but the main one is around clean tone. So hard to tell if the difference between the tube and SS amp was greater than when listening on headphones over RU-vid; there seemed to be more bottom end to the Fender for sure. I even A/Bed sections of the video to try and pinpoint the difference. Perhaps we can simply never hear the physical presence you guys get in the room? Also your disposition towards single coils, which just seem to suit pedal additions to the tone base way more. As the “non-tube” world encroaches more and more the issues around tube amps need to be solved. Weight and fragility. Pedals don’t really seem to solve the tonal and presence issues of non-tube alternatives, so perhaps some designer will start looking at a different approach around transformer and speaker weight, and actual tube/valve design? First step, boys: put the Tonemaster Fenders under the comparison spotlight. But can you see other answers within the tube format, rather than substituting the bit that holds the magic?
To your last question, we never see a day or a reason to give up valve amps that isn’t based purely on cost and convenience. Two Pro Juniors. They weigh nothing, take up no space, sound and feel more inspiring to me than any modeller I’ve heard yet. Mick here. That said, the Tone Masters are interesting! A couple are winging their way to TPS Towers as we speak. 10 years time... maybe quantum computing will have an effect. But I dunno, as you allude, old iron, old valves, heavy speakers. Still sounds ‘best’ to me.
How about the opposite of this? What's the biggest board you can make while keeping it useable and without redundancy? I wonder how many pedals you can add before you start to hit power/signal/size/weight issues. I see many bands these days that seem to suffer from 'too many pedals syndrome' and have failures during their gig or spend the entire time pedal switching and tweaking
I had to try to explain Viz to the world's most humourless border control officer the first time I went to the US. Funnily enough it was lain atop my hand luggage in much the same way. He didn't seem to get it.
So... am I the only one who wants to hear what it sounds like when you put Mick's front end into Dan's rear end? ;) Seriously, though, great show, gentlemen. I gotta say, Mick, adding the preamp so you can bypass the front end of whatever horrible amp you get stuck with at the gig is clutch. Here in the States you are very likely to be given some kind of terrible Peavey solid state thing.
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