Carry On Sailing. Volvo Penta 2003 Yacht Engine Rebuild. Part-3

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Sailing video from Scotland to Poole, we did not make it. After haul-out at Holyhead the engine is removed and completely rebuilt. Boat repairs and improvement boat-projects begin.
But what does it mean to "Rebuild" or "Recondition" a marine diesel engine? This video provides insight.
Starring Michael Schmidt & Partner - The "Yacht Broker". Motive Marine of Southampton, who supplied the Not-Fit-For-Purpose engine to the previous owner, and then they wanted another £3000! to make it Fit-For-Purpose, and RB Marine of Rosneath who filled it full of silicone sealant, and me, the victim of the booby-trap.
Also starring a fantastic engineer and we look inside the engine and see what reconditioning an engine looks like.
A great video for anyone who likes engines, mechanics, or boat-projects. Or, if you're thinking of buying a reconditioned engine for your yacht this video may help inform your conversation.
#WesterlyStorm #Westerly #WesterlyYachts #VolvoPenta #VolvoPenta2003 #EngineFailure #EngineRebuild #EngineLiftOut #BoatProjects #Holyhead

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@rarerufus8864 Год назад

Further to my comments in your Part 2, I find the level of incompetence, negligence and deceit that you've encountered to be absolutely staggering. You have been wronged for monetary gain and there should be inexpensive means available to you for full recompense. I hesitate to mention the loose raw water intake hose which, as you mention, could have been catastrophic. Credit to you for having such a stiff upper lip but I would still be considering every opportunity to discredit all parties who contributed to your pain otherwise they will continue to rip others off in similar fashion.

@SM40 Год назад

Thanks for commenting and like you was both shocked and relieved at the same time. What I didn't film was the main fuel pipe that had been left sitting on top of the shaft coupling, that was day one of ownership. The engineer at Kip spotted it and replaced the whole pipe that had 50% worn through. I'd only done 9nm! Installation by an RYA Instructor! I don't regard my role in this as being one which needs to shame them - they did that all by themselves. The videos are enough - they know who they are!

@Calumnw Год назад

@@SM40 Did you get the boat surveyed?

@SM40 4 месяца назад

Thanks for commenting. The engine installation was still being completed at launch and pre-dated the survey so written assurances were written into the sale in light of the fresh engine installation. Since the issues were contractual discrepancies (i.e. the seller and the broker made false representations and failed to honour their word). In that regard I also retained a complete audit trail for evidential purposes to support this, which turned out to be more important than the survey (i.e. the survey was of no value to the complaint).

@avidviewer1 Год назад

What an absolute saga. How you managed to keep so calm when describing the attitude of the the engine's supplier (not to mention the other cowboys) is completely beyond me. You must have the patience of a saint. All the best from here on in!

@SM40 Год назад

Many thanks, and thanks for commenting. It has been much bettter since taking control of the situation and the good fortune to meet such a fine engineer. Light beats darkness in the rock paper scissors game of life :-)

@SM40 Год назад

By this stage I had paid not an inconsiderable amount for the engine installation to be checked professionally, which is why some of the basic shortcomings were such a surprise. A lesson learned! If something needs doing...

@davesailing 2 месяца назад

I was squirming in my seat as your engineer was describing all the problems with your engine as he showed the insides bit by bit. You were lucky to get as far as you did. I have the same engine, and touch wood, only had minor problems with it. You certainly had some serious bad luck to buy that one. Hopefully things will only get better now. I'll look out for you when I'm next in Poole. Fair winds and calm seas - best wishes... Dave

@SM40 2 месяца назад

Thanks for commenting, I consider myself somewhat lucky in fact. No learning is bad learning is bad learning despite the modest extra costs. And the engine purrs like a cat now l. They're pretty good engines so long as they're looked after in my experience. Happy sailing ⛵️ 💓

@directorstu Месяц назад

Yes. I also have the same engine. I think my previous owner was more upstanding and mechanically minded. Thank god.

@kenleesuser1943 2 месяца назад

Good video thanks for insight into the problems buying a recon engine surprised you had non or little redress against the seller of the boat or the engine recon company .

@RainerHeger Год назад

What a story! Great videos. We bought our Storm in Dez 2020 also from MS&P in Rhu, she was on the dry with RB Marine. First sail to Kip Marine in Mai 21 and then towards Troon. But thats were the similarities end ;-). Looking at all your problems we seem to have been very luck so far. Wish you happy sailing - Storms are great boats.

@SM40 Год назад

I remember, I saw her I think nearer the main entrance than Runrig. Not sure she was on the market at that point. MS&P never mentioned her - though that wouldnt surprise me even if she were on the market! Glad to hear that your experience has been positive, they really are superb yachts to sail :-)

@lappiheikki 10 дней назад

Thanks for sharing! Who did the new refit and how much it costs?

@MrZx9rdoug Год назад

Keep doing this,great content .

@SM40 Год назад

Thanks, will do!

@petermilburn1214 3 месяца назад

When We bought our yacht I thought I would always use professionals to carry out work for insurance purposes! I've discovered that it's much cheaper to do your own repairs and maintenance then you know its done right! What an awful feeling it is getting caught in adverse weather with the engine over heat alarm sounding when it's getting dark!

@SM40 Год назад

Probably wont have time to edit for a week or two, but if there are any subject area's of interest I'd be pleased to receive iseas. However, I refuse to produce any video's about how to antifoul a boat 😂

@swanagejazzfestival3118 Год назад

I've done an article for the Westerly Owners' Association magazine on my experience this year of stripping my Westerly Storm's hull and then copper coating it. If they use it, it should be out in the spring. No video I am afraid, I can't scrape, sand and video at the same time. But I do have lots of photos!

@chmodman Год назад

Nice video! I also cursed the split pin on my VP 2003 gear shifting cable, it's ridiculous where it's located...

@SM40 Год назад

Many thanks 👍The trick is not to spit the pin too much I have worked out. The bolt that was loose is for the mechanism so was a bit of a red herring.

@user-wd8js8uv1e Месяц назад

How to measure compression? Through the nozzle?

@rivermagic Год назад

Seeing the water pipe Jubilee loose brought back some bad memories for me, first time I took my Hunter out into the Irish sea my mate noticed the bilge pumping water, when I looked in the cabin water was bellowing from the engine bay - the water pipe had blown off, had to lie in the water to reattach it - moral of the story, always double clip your water pipes

@SM40 Год назад

Or as i did, pay a volvo penta engineer over a £1000 to check the whole installation because the previous owner proved that he shouldnt have been in charge of a rubber duck in the bath let alone a yacht! Moral of the story is don't trust anyone else.

@rivermagic Год назад

@@SM40 My boat has a history of trying to kill me 😀 first time I took it from troon to Bangor, no issues on the sails, turned the engine on, went to dock, put it in reverse and the prop shaft blew out of the seal.... fun times lol - apart from that though its been fine

@SM40 Год назад

I'm feeling better already :-) Happy days!

@normanboyes4983 8 месяцев назад

Just found your channel, enjoyed your videos and admire your pragmatism. I know time has moved on but did you not consider lodging a small courts claim against the seller (the RYA instructor). Marine Power either deliberately bodged that engine or sub contracted it to another bodger- absolutely irresponsible deliberate wrecking.

@SM40 4 месяца назад

Hi, thanks for commenting. Yes, I did prepare a strong legal case, made slightly more complicated because the boat was bought in Scotland and me from England. I chose to spend the money on the boat and am pleased with the outcome. In any case, anyone who sees the videos and knows the boat may well know the previous owner, who claimed to be an RYA Instructor, and his reputation will be justly judged accordingly.

@geirerdal1548 Год назад

You mentioned the big problem of overheating and the smoke incident. Did you ever find out the exact cause of the issue? Anything to do with the heat exchanger or was it juts the blockages due to the silicone gasket issue? Or was it the electrics? Would love to know the exact cause as I also have a Volvo Penta 2003 which has in the past given me some problems of overheating. Great videos - thank you.

@SM40 Год назад

With the suspected overheating we concluded it was a faulty alarm. Later, I found faulty wiring for the water temperature and so that proved to be a reasonable judgement. The smoke, it was oily smoke, and I am 99.8% certain that was due to leaked oil in contact with a hot engine and we were beating into a F6 down the Irish which was quite bumpy. The crank case did have some smoke but nothing very alarming, more synonymous with worn piston seals/cylinders, which proved to be the case. It is, however, possible that we did also overheat due to the leaky engine block drain that was later identified when the engine was dismantled. All in all, that engine in the state that Motive Marine (Peter Burgess) sold it in, it was always going to fail. It was a dud! Thanks for enjoying the video; I thought it would be good to share with the wider community.

@stevencleary 11 месяцев назад

I have just acquired a Sigma 36, which apparently is a popular UK boat. Owner had passed, boat had been sitting for 5yrs. I'm debugging engine problems, layered...ie find one, fix it, find the hidden problem under the first. If you don't mind me asking, how much did the engine rebuild cost parts & labor? Great video, thank you!

@SM40 9 месяцев назад

Hi Stephen, Thanks for commenting. Sure, the Sigma is a great class with loads of pedigree. It cost about the same as re-powering with a commercially reconditioned unit, maybe slightly more but for the piece of mind that the investment returns it no bad thing.

@allandoyle1809 Год назад

Good grief, id Aufur Daly sell you that thing? Seriously though, I feel for you. It could have turned out a lot worse but you're making the best of it. Wishing you good luck from here on.

@SM40 Год назад

No, it wasnt Arthur Daly, but it was a member of the Royal Gourock Yacht Club who told me three trimes in the same sentence that he was an RYA instructor haha. As you say, it could have been worse and to be honest I've gained a huge amount of knowledge in the process :-) Thanks for commenting. ATB.

@laurencevanhelsuwe3052 7 месяцев назад

Small Claims court ? You don't need a solicitor, and judges are quite helpful in getting to the legal bottom of things. If you've been conned, the judge will rule accordingly.

@sligeach Год назад

It's not clear from your videos where you actually bought the boat or what company supposedly reconditioned the engine. I know if it was me got ripped off like that I would certainly be naming and shaming the engineering company to help prevent possible future unsuspecting customers getting ripped off. No difference in naming and shaming than reviewing products on websites etc. Can you at least tell us where the company is situated. Nice boat.

@SM40 Год назад

Have a look at the video description; although I do mention the company name in the video. I bought the boat through Michael Schmidt & Partner in Scotland,, if you see previous videos there's a bit more on that there. Thanks for commenting.

@sligeach Год назад

@@SM40 I see now what you wrote in description. Wish you loads of luck with her for the future.

@SM40 Год назад

Motive Marine of Southampton. I can't blame MS&P entirely, they blamed the owner for the misdescription, and Motive Marine gave me a copy of the invoice which doesnt say its been "fully reconditioned". I did insist on sea testing and remediation arising from the installation. MS&P suggested this could be done via video, to save me a trip. The owner sent me a video that RB Marine provided saying that everything was okay. So I should have done the extra trip really, but everything is easy with hindsight! Like I say, I'm not bitter at all. The sailing has been amazing, and Scotland was fantastic, met some really lovely people and made great memories.

@sligeach Год назад

@@SM40 Happy sailing.👍

@pocketcruisersailing 26 дней назад

I enjoyed the video!... But your overly tolerant attitude is unbelievable. You should have named/shamed these cowboys and taken them through small claims court. Please consider that your tolerance might help the cowboys to injure the next client. You come across as one of the good guys, but in this scenario, one could make a case of you aiding and abetting the cowboys in their next 'criminal' act. Sorry this comment is so harsh but as long as crooks are successful they'll continue... In spite of my harsh comments, I hope you have a long and trouble free enjoyment of the relatively new (to you) boat. Jack...

@tommyt4062 Год назад

It always surprises me the amount of piss poor repairs that you can find on boats, including safety critical one's. I think it's a vicious circle, often owners are about as practical and hands on as a chocolate tea pot which then feeds into the fact that many marine "engineers" have oddly placed God complexes. Come on people it's hardly rocket science, I'm sure there's a way for everyone to meet in the middle and actually help each other out.

@SM40 9 месяцев назад

You're not wrong there!

@V8guy3500 Год назад

Worst engine VP ever made sadly ,pulled ours out a few years ago gave up on it. Hope you have better luck

@SM40 Год назад

Oh dear! Having much better luck now after the rebuild. Sorry to hear that you're not a fan of them. I've had years of experience with the 2003 and have always found them to be good and reliable (except when ruuning out of diesel ;-) which i did once and then had to sail into a marina berth! ) They are an aging model now, so parts are that much more difficult to obtain.

@sigma436 Год назад

@@SM40 I have had a VP 2002 with 3000+ running hours. I have faced one problem with this engine: it will not start. This could be solved by closing the decompression valves 🤭

@lappiheikki 10 дней назад

Thanks for sharing! Who did the new refit and how much it costs?