Whenever i see a tesla at car shows i always ask the owner " wait what kind of car is that?" they look baffled and say "uh its a Tesla?" i usually respond with "cool, never heard of it. Let me guess V6?" They all always look like i broke them. "dude its electric" finally i retort "Why would you want that?" LOL i troll the teslas.
@@ThatDudeinBlue Did you see the Midnight Purple II R34 that sold for 310k on BaT? I don't car how good these were in 1999, they were never a $300k+ driving experience.
@@Gearbhall But that car has a very specific reason for selling at that price, sure, they aren't worth that money but that specific car has a very specific case.
The thing is tho, i'm old enough to remember a time when those cars were actually affordable. Most of them in the 10-15-20k range. Well, the R34 GT-R was always pricier than the others. I don't understand the obsession. Like David said in the video, nice driving sports cars from the 90's, but nothing that special.
So you agree with these experts, is what you're saying? I heard one of them even has VR. It's almost more real than real life I've heard. So he'd know better than anyone.
The AE86 should be top of the list im dissapointed litereally a piece of shit sells for 30 40 grand like wtf is people doing ooooOoOOoh cAr fRoM iNITiAL D tOuGe
I had a mkiv Jetta with the 2.slow and a friend of mine had a 1.8t gli. His car was pretty nice but he sunk a lot of money into it lol. I did on mine as well because of the damn oil leaks and check engine light. I eventually sold it and bought a 98 civic... I never looked back lol.
@@dono2926 because most people who actually go to meets have an understanding of what living with cars is like people who scream online usually dont even have a licence let alone the funds to pay and maintain a sports/niche car except for 4x4 owners, they all shit on each other for god knows why and to an extent muscle guys. most euro fans and not $1k shitbox jdm owners are usually pretty excepting of others taste
@@RogueCowTurd *accepting not excepting you are using it wrong just an fyi when someone “accepts” something or when someone is accepting” they approve of it “excepting” is the same thing as “except” or everything else But what your talking about
I feel like most cars that are “overrated” is because of the fan base/ community. I love the hellcat but I hate the toxic mopar community. Same goes with a few other cars.
@Boofing Pressies electronically yes, our cars are terrible but what else can be expected from a US Mercedes. Otherwise our drivetrain is pretty solid, same with our engines when you delete MDS.
@@jon_eliz99 As apposed to Chevy and Ford, who have extremely fast straight line cars that can actually take a corner. But if you like something that can only go fast in a straight line, I can’t fault you for it. It’s your opinion.
That really hurted me! 😥 Corvettes are a do everything cars, drag racing, circuit racing, street racing, drifting and even off roading if you lift them! 🤣
@Steven g hahahaha that's literally bad ass dude next time you should buy a speaker and play some sick two-step crackle sounds, I bet they'd be trolled immediatley
But lifted trucks (depending HOW its lifted) can still be useful tho....like a mild lift and tire will still retain towing and adds more offroad capability
My 20 year old nephew: “The Fast & Furious movies are stupid and they suck”. The same 20 year old nephew: “My two dream cars are the R34 & the Mach 4 Supra”. And that’s not a typo, he insists it’s pronounced “mach” not “mark”. Me: 🤦♂️
@@cj09beira I agree with you. My nephew does not. Hates every Fast & Furious movie. Refuses to watch any of them. Plus he thinks the Daniel Craig Bond movies are “too over the top”. Let’s see, Sean Connery flying in a jet pack; Roger Moore fighting in space, escaping in a horse trailer jet, escaping in a boat disguised as an iceberg, having a Lotus that turns into a submarine; Timothy Dalton standing a tanker truck up on its left wheels to dodge an RPG; Pierce Brosnan having an invisible Aston Martin. Yeah, the new Bond movies are sooo over the top 🙄.
David: It took High Power Lambos and Big Turbo GTRs to beat the supra Me: tell that to the dude who got sent to gapple bees by a Evo X with one of his passengers hanging a sign out saying "sell it"
@@afilleduptaco yeah...I KNOW....lol we built one to 600whp on a heartbreaker dyno.....on E85 using the cheapest ebay parts we could find. the turbo was some janky chinese BS that cost $340.....the whole catless exhaust cost $141. The only high dollar parts on that car were the $3500 coil overs. that car was FAST!!! sounded like it was about to implode the motor but the ones making the most HP always do...lol I wouldnt mind owning that car, but I lost track of it over the last 10-12 years. some kiddie boi probably totaled it out.....
Yes, here in my country there are a plenty of idiots trying to sell a golf/jetta mk1 or mk2 or even Mk3 and 4, at the price of a used mk5 or at the exaggerated price of almost a brand new mk7 Jetta, saying that "it's a classic" or "almost an Audi" and they think they drive an Audi with their mk6 Jettas and Chinese BBS wheels
@@NaruSanavai facts the younger generation will always think its hating if we state our opinion and thinking we can't afford them you can basically afford anything with good credit if you want whatever but you think everyone going to spend money especially if you want a house in reality I'm a car enthusiast just like the next guy but people take things to heart though and need to realize we're just stating hating
@@jordinhocharles You’re right they don’t know shit about cars. My one friend called me a fake car guy and proceeded to say he wants “a car with a V9 engine like cars from fast and furious” (He meant a 9 cylinder engine 😬).
I can get with Maserati it's absolutely trash compare older Maserati Land Rover bcs now become a car for rich and not like how it started For Bentley they just boring I guess.
Lol exactly , some of these mfs don't have a pot to piss in ,owe thousands in child support but still get a $60k+ car. Makes me think that dodge really approves anyone for financing
@@coolman72891 - Of course they do. They don’t care if people can truly afford the car. All they care about is all the interest they are going to make off people who can least afford it.
@@TheCynicalJay I highly doubt Chrysler gave you a loan with zero credit. 620-640 and you've got a good job etc sure. Manufacturer loans are scrutinized way more harshly than a bank loan and definitely don't give high risk loans.
I think when everyone is talking about JDM cars they’re talking about the hardcore Instagram/tiktok idiots who don’t know s*it about cars at all and if it isn’t JDM they immediately go for the stupid outdated stereotypes to try to prove a point that they can’t make with facts
Half the people who gas up the Supra and Skyline are the guys who don't own a car, and guys who've never worked on a car in their life. They're so delusional that they gotta defend a machine to the death lol.
I just want a 1980s MR2 as a daily. I know the shortcomings of the car and that there may be way better buys for the money, but I just like how it looks and have accepted that it is flawed. I hate to be grouped with the 12 year old mk4 Supra and R34 fanboys (although the cars are respectable in their own right) that go “hurrr my stock Supra just needs a single RGB light strip to beat a Lamborghini huracan😈😈”
What most of them don’t understand is that it’s the engines that made them great for the time. They are great at certain things. Often these kids don’t know the first thing about why those cars were great and only help to inflate prices for those that actually want to buy them. I’ll stick with my Aristo hahaha.
"The culture is open for everyone! You can like whatever you want!" *starts sending death threats to kids who says he likes a Supra more than any car in the world*
@@snapchatsnacks3154 they also "know"that labos are unreliable and can't handle 100bhp I think there is a discussion on one of them 1000bhp spura vs Lamborghini compilations
Kinda thought I'd see the Miata on here...after finally buying into the hype everyone has for them myself, it kinda isn't anything special. Had my NB for a little over a year now and 20k miles later, most of those miles being on backroads ripping around with my friends, I dont really think miata is always the answer. Although, that might just be my experience with the community since a lot of people tell me I dont have a real miata "because I dont have popups" or "its not turbo charged/engine swapped" and my favorite "why isnt it slammed." Makes me really want to sell the car and just put that money back into rebuilding my integra
I had an nb2 for a year with better suspension parts and it was great but the car was falling apart on me so i bought a c5 corvette which has been better but also has a 3rd the miles. The miata community was unreal. I went to a meet at a race track and hung out there with a few guys until 2am.
Whoever submitted “Supercar legends and any JDM due to their stupid fan base” is A: clearly jealous of those because they can’t afford the supercars, and B: hates the JDM because they have a Chevy badge tramp-stamp tattoo, a Calvin pissing on a Ford badge tattooed on one of their buttcheeks and clearly doesn’t have many branches in their family tree. Did I go too far?
Tbh, I don't think he was too off-base with the JDM comment, and this is coming from a JDM fanboy. The way I interpreted the comment was him saying that a lot of JDM cars, just by virtue of being older JDM cars, have this unrealistic, idiotic in fact, value associated with them to the point where you have people asking for $20k+ for a near 40 year old Corolla that is likely beat to shit and was someone's failed project car, and people willing to pay that. Same applies to the various generations of 240SX, Eclipses for a period of time, etc, though obviously to a lesser degree than the AE86 like I alluded to earlier.
@@danmyers9372 Actually he was spot on, JDM fanboys have over hyped the overall JDM market so that some people think piles of shit are good good and you end up with a lot of dumb ass with the "I know what I've got" idea.
I love people who judge hella cars and never drove any of them or never bothered to own one because they listen to the internet. P.s awesome video dude
12:22 that’s why I like Subaru, I’m not into heavily modified cars personally. They are not a perfect car company in terms of build quality that’s for sure, but I enjoy them.
Recently picked up an STi...yup...agree with all of the comments. It's not THAT fast, but it is crazy fun, handles well, can fit all the kids, and it's AWD for the winters. It's the great compromise.
Being a vw owner, I completely agree with the statement, they really don't feel like the same cars now and I think the mk4 was the last generation were they felt like a vw. Its really annoying when people in the community like vw like there the only car that matters. I'm gonna be honest here, vw are a pain in the ass some times and there are much better platforms out there for sure, that don't smell like a crayon factory
I hate em but love em. Just picked up a 2.0 wagon, would have gotttem a 1.8 or vr6 but it was the only wagon for sale state wide. Though it sucks the timing belt snapped and bent the valves. Got a bug 2.0 head to slap on it though. Though mk4s I’ve noticed in the last few years drastically disappeared and fast, used to see them like civics everywhere like 4 years ago Wnen I had my vr6. Cant hardly find but like 6 mk4s in total for same in a 200 mile radius. All the ones I find are 2 states over. And they just aren’t on the road anymore.
Ive owned Baltic green 1.8, a space grey gli vr6 6 speed, a mk6 2.5 and now the 03 wagon 2.0. I’m definitely finding a totaled mk4 1.8 manual to swap into the wagon though
Back when I had my FBO E55 AMG and Tesla guys would mouth off I’d challenge them to a race. They of course agree and laugh until I told them my rules were doing a 120 roll. I never lost btw. And just to clarify I don’t hate Tesla’s either a friend let me borrow his P80D and it was great. Just hate the fanboys.
@@spoofsports Challenging to a race, then setting the rules to be in your favor only after they agree to race, give them no chance.......good job, champion of the year this one. You might as well have punched a baby in the face and taken its candy. Teslas are markets to their strong suit, 0-60. 0-60 is the metric most car buyers pay attention to the most. Most people, even car people, don't care about the 60-120mph time or 120-xxxmph time because they almost never use that if ever.
@@burtonboarder503 A friend did just that and it was a very entertaining and surprisingly reliable car and after a set of KW's and some wheels/tires, it handled shockingly well....the terminal understeer didnt rear its ugly head until ridiculous speed
Maybe a ‘cars that deserve more hype’ video next? My first pick would he the Noble M600, a very underrated supercar imo. 650hp, lightweight by modern standards, manual gearbox, and no ABS, it supposedly offers a visceral driving experience rare in newer cars (never driven one so idk for certain lmao). Maybe not the best looking thing out there but I imagine it’d be a blast to drive Edit: 6:02 ‘puts the “ICK” in “Buick’ 😂😂
I don’t see a lot of people talk about Infiniti Q50s but those things are pretty damn cool. Kia Stingers as well. Had one embarrass my little 5.7 Challenger on the expressway and The owner was super chill
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@Seat arosa fan boy but I’m saying that it is because most people either pick the Hakosuka-R32 or R34-35, in fact, I have never seen one in a NFS game, and the worst part is that everyone’s keep calling it a boat, and yet it’s the smallest one, and the 34 weighs more.
Tbh the c5 was really good for the money until they went up in price, now I feel like its a lot less so, the c6 though is still worth what they go for.
Basically most jdm classics are overrated now. Coming from someone who dreams to have one of these cars, the prices are ridiculously high when compared to modern and better performing cars. Nostalgia is way too expensive.
@@preferreddrift6270 lol. Especially considering the SR20 can do this and the KA24 has gone quicker. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-0dATYGMoHvY.html
Honestly, this is all quite reasonable, and I love R34s. Skyline fanboys and Skyline owners has been some of the most unpleasant people I’ve met in the community
I was confused about it, lol. I've never heard anyone say they have engines that are great for making power, so it was weird to see someone trying to diss that.
Yeah over the past almost 9 years subbies been overrated they are basically the new civics I see one on the road everyday like the si and subbies engines are not even that good people complain about them all the time while they mod everything else up
absolutely nailed Subaru, unless you have the backing of a major shop or just tons of money to throw away Subaru is not your horsepower chasing choice. Or I suppose you do a swap. They are great for minor upgrades and just drive and enjoy the rumble.
Tell me about it. Never buy one at 100kmiles. I learned that the hard way this year with my 06 sti. New short block, turbo, injectors, sensors, struts, steering rack, etc. 15k later and all my OT pay and I have no savings account. Be smart and buy a newer Infiniti G37
@@blackfacegaming191 I respect those cars but it's not my cup of tea all of a sudden subbies and Evo have alot of hype but especially subbies they aren't reliable and the problem is in my area people who have them think nothing is better than a subbie It's bogus because they are plenty of cars I can name that are better just over the years I feel like subbies are the new Hondas after 2013 that's when the trend started people who had their favorite car brands than all of a sudden dissing them just because of them having an STI
When I bought my FR-S, I expected all of my friends who build cars to laugh me out of state. Real surprised when all of them just kind of shrugged and said "It's a cool little car. Not gonna outpace anyone, but it's like a Wal-Mart Miata, which isn't bad."
Get any car you want the car culture F up everything about people's opinions back in the 90s early 2000s you xan mod or hook up anything even Saturn's did now uou have to be in the in crowd to be cool it's better to ve duffrent then the same boring build
I actually find people who diss and make fun of supras, skylines, etc. and those cars's "fanboys" (for example memes like "EvERy12YeArOLd" ) as cringe as those fanboys.
Fr. Tbh I enjoy the appearance of an R34 and Mk4 Supra very much. Yes they are overhyped but I love what they represent, look like, and stand for yk? I hate when people punish you with the name of fan boy for appreciating a car lmao. If I were to have a GTR tho I’d take a R33 V spec and lower it ahaha im the odd ball but I love difference
blind hate is as bad as blind love, though i will say the 32,33 and 34 gtrs all have racing pedigree while the supra just has its engine really. i dont think either car is worth the money theyre being sold for but at least the gtr line has actual decent racing history behind it. the supra chassis is garbage, and it wasnt even the fastest straight line car toyota was producing from factory, the sw20 mr2 was faster note: my dad bought a supra because he was a little bit envious when i bought my s15 haha
@@RogueCowTurd well it depends on which generation of supra you are referring to. The a70 was the first car in 7/8s in the quarter mile in the world or at least for a Japanese car, the A80 has secured 27 JGTC wins and previously held the record of first import into the 5s in the quarter mile while the A90 has 5/6 wins in super gt including both gt300 and gt500 class. Additionally multiple formula d cars and time attacks cars are based on supras. So I would say there's no shortage of Motorsport pedigree but maybe not as much as skylines.
@@team_tuner88 I'm talking about the mkiv? The one featured in the video, the one that people overrate? Thought that was pretty obvious given the context sure they're in drags a bit but outside the US drag racing is pretty niche. And they are not at all abundant in time attack lol. they're a heavy gt car and there's no getting around that fact, for every supra you see putting down a lap you'll see 20 Evo's, 20 Honda's, 15 s chassis, 5 lotus and the odd supercar. Also there's only a handful of supras in formula D, and even less in grass roots
I gotta disagree- I think people dismiss them period. Not because they are “cool” When you drive a well suited Miata with suspension and tires almost nothing comes close to the driver feel at that price on a road course/curvy road.
why arent they cool exactly? theyre front engine, rear wheel drive that comes in manual, weigh next to fuck all, heaps of aftermarket support and plenty of room under the bay for swaps if you want to go that route. they out handle modern cars way above their price range, convertible or you can throw a hard top on them and treat them as a coupe. other than the mantra of "hur dur, small car = gurl car" whats so uncool about them?
@@ThatDudeinBlue I guess my experience is just based off the stock Miatas. In my opinion they just aren’t a very attractive car. Very feminine looking. Very slow, terrible sounding (no matter the exhaust you put on).
Skyline gtr to the rest of the world : that’s a nice skyline Skyline gtr in America : OH MY GOD ITS A SKYLINE GTR So basically the world reacts to a skyline gtr how we react to the r35 gtr
The Supra is incredibly over rated. We’ve all seen those videos of “IS THAT A SUPRA” or it beating a lambo or Bugatti or something but all in all they have to be heavily modified to beat those cars. Stock they aren’t that quick. Supra’s are only good cars modified
It had more to do with the cost per performance. For the cost of said lambo or supercar named, the ammout of money it would cost to acheive that level of performance would be very high. Compare that to just modifying a car to achieve somewhat that level is seen as more approachable.
@@One_LuvZthats very true. Couldn’t agree more. A brand new Lamborghini is $210,000+ depending on the model, where $20,000 or so and some work can build a car faster than a lambo or said super cars
Huge "VW only" guy here and I just want to explain my take on why I've developed such an affinity for them over the years and why now VW is my first choice. Basically after years of owning dozens of cars of various makes and models, I would buy something like a Honda Civic or Subaru and realize the daily driving experience was not what I wanted in terms of driving comfort and build quality. Then I would buy something nicer as a daily driver and realize it was boring and dull. I was stuck in that cycle of compromises and never being satisfied until I ended up getting a MK4 Jetta GLI, which was in my price range of what I usually spent on cars. I realized almost immediately it was the perfect balance of what I was looking for all along. Nothing up to that point felt as solid and quality yet fun and engaging in that price range up to that point. I was finally satisfied. Well, a few years down the road when it was time to upgrade I looked at newer cars and went through the same thing again of trying to find the right balance and landed on a MK5 GTI. Which again, I realized was ALSO the perfect balance. Where fun sport cars would compromise on comfort and quality and others sacrificed any sort of enjoyment for comfort and quality, Volkswagen always seemed to be a perfect balance right in the middle for it's price range. They kind of do it all. Now I have a MK6 GTI and every car I've tried in it's price range and category just doesn't compare in my eyes.
I am a mix of cars I enjoy and have owned. 1988 Scirocco twin cam engine. 1983 Audi 5000 Turbo. 1994 Corrado G60, Factory supercharged car. 1996 Audi S8 tuned. 2001 Audi S4 B5 Avant. Unfortunately I do not have any of those cars anymore. I switched to BMW for auto cross. 1986 E34 with a M54 engine, Dinan Supercharged, KW Club Sport Evo Suspension, M5 brakes, ARE intake, Remus Stainless exhaust. 2000 E39 Wagon. Started out as a 5.25I with the factory 5 speed swapped to a 6 speed ZF from a M5, M85 Engine, Ohlins suspension, BBS 3 piece rims, Tomei Titanium exhaust.
I agree with the premise that STI's make very little power per dollar, BUT up until 2010 when the Camaro SS came out, it was lighter than American v8's and had more power plus they were all wheel drive. for many years they were fantastic cars that were better than cars that where up to 20 grand more. The problem is that Subaru is a small company and stopped improving the STI after 2007 and tuning has advanced and we've discovered many new and better platforms for power.
Correction: "but, after the Camaro/Trans Am died in 2002, and ignoring the Cobra/Mach One, until the Camaro SS came out in 2010 the STI made more-ish power than American V8s"... Seriously, the STI spent that whole time at around 270-290 HP, while the Mustang GT went from 260 to 300, and the Charger R/T brought 340. The old Camaro Z28/Ws6 Trans Am had 315. All of those RWD V8s were slower 0-60, but they had higher trap speeds at the quarter mile, and posted similar times.
one huge benefit the sr20det had over ka24det was mpg. when I had mine at 250whp I was still getting mid 20's mpg intown, 28+ highway. As a daily driver the s13/sr20 was just a beautiful setup.. I got rid of mine way back and regret it ALL the damn time as I'd have to spend 15-20k to get an equivalent build. I disagree with it being overhyped in that it (pre drifting era) was extremely cheap (I bought my 2 s13's at 3400 and 2800 with no motor), was a great platform to learn to drive, learn to wrench on a car, and you could customize EVERYTHING. In that view, the car is well worth the hype. Performance wise, especially in today's market...it is extremely over-inflated. For cost of a 240sx you can buy c4/c5 with only 60k miles..
Why isn’t the E46 M3 on here? I’ve been in a couple they go round corners pretty well but have no power unless you drive the wheels off the thing, the interior is pretty bland and when you drive it on rough-ish roads it’s like being inside a paint shaker
Because the driving experience and intake sound makes up for the bland interior. Btw, the ride is actully fine, if you keep it stock. The problem is that people often buy hugely expensive coilovers and don't bother fine tunning them.
One of my favourite RU-vidrs said about the Supra that: "the only good thing about the car, is the fucking engine". This is why I love the new one. The engine is really good, but it god a lot more merits than just an indestructible engine
They say the A90s chassis is stiffer than the LFAs. And that's pretty impressive considering the time, money and effort Toyota put into building the LFA. Also considering the price gap between the 2 lol.
The Nissan r32 blows the doors off of the vw r32. They arent even in the same league . I’m in both clubs Nissan and vw mk4 owner and I love both r32s but the vw doesn’t even compare on track. Skyline wasnt deemed Godzilla for no reason. And the vwr32 was never banned for being too fast
I'm kind of a subaru fan boy but i also want a lifted cummins so i think it all just comes down to being a menace . But to be real like I blew up the engine in my WRX and I knew it was gonna happen but my first car was a non-turbo impreza and in rural Alberta, driving situations can get fucky really quickly and I think their AWD system has honestly saved my life or at least my car in multiple situations. I'm not overstating it, I know their limits, but I've pushed them many times and the worst thing I ever had to do was fix a tie rod and get a couple alignments here and there. This 2005 impreza was driven by two teenagers (my sister and I), taught multiple friends here and there how to drive stick, hit two deer, hit a goose that exploded the windshield while my sister was driving to school, climbed out of multiple ditches over the years, including one time when my sister rotated her own tires and she lowkey lost a couple lug nuts, i've also lost multiple lug nuts, and man after four years of teenage angst, my sister went off to university and my dad used this 2005 non-turbo impreza as a farm vehicle. Idk, just the fact that a car that I never really thought I was gonna love, could mean so much to myself and the people close to me, I mean, my entire family calls her by her name, my girlfriend calls her by her name, hell, even my girlfriend's family calls her by her name, because I would always talk about her and their dog would even bark when they could hear my shitty ass exhaust farting down the highway, their dog literally knew i was coming by the sound of that car. thats why i love subarus, thank you for coming to my TEDTalk.
The skyline is an amazing car but my dads olds Nissan Sentra reminded me a lot of it so that’s why I guess I never really found them appealing haha. Great video anyways man cool seeing everyone opinions.
I briefly owned a 2005 Passat 1.8T (ok, not an "enthusiast" car but point remains) and I can safely say while I enjoyed driving it... that's it. Ownership was a nightmare; that car would not stay fixed for more than a week before _something_ fell apart or stopped working.
Being a fan of the VAG and owner of an 8p 2.0t A3 S-line, I have always liked VW, Audi,Porsche. There are formula's for these cars but unless you Have $$ making a drag car is not what they do! But all arounders they can be! There is a huge range of performance parts you can build a good fun realistic car! My brothers MK7 w/ is38 at 370hp 400tq can beat most cars he rolls against. The EA888 motor is a good one, and the DSG is reliable. Just know their quirks!
@@AliceC993 the last Volkswagen I had was a 1996 1.6 vw polo classic 6kv. Had the motor done and bored out to a 2.1l abf motor and it pulled on the mk7 GTIs with ease and was pretty reliable too. I don't know where they went wrong, I used to love Volkswagens
Subie owner here, and I don’t care at all what others think. I love my WRX. To be clear though, I don’t think it’s anywhere near the fastest car around.
Yeah it literally runs very low 7s on the Nurburgring. It’s one of the best handling cars in the world and it’s easily the best performance bargain of this century. Crazy how cheap the car is for the performance. And it’s a nice car to daily and live with as well
You have never driven a hovercraft then or even seen one drive, lol. That is a horrid comparison. Just stick with the old stand by of "like a go kart" or "its on rails".
14:26 never buy a brz/86 to go on a straight line. I love that platform in its drive feel, the fact that I can rev it out, the car and driver connection and many more. I can go on an on. I personally love that platform. Yes its slow as hell. But you don't really need so much power on the road especially because laws and stuff are super strict where I live
The dude that said Ferrari F40 is entitled to an opinion... BUT, as an 80s kid, that is probably the top of the heap for me. That car is the epitome of a driver's car. Raw, visceral, almost nothing unnecessary.
as a guy who’s only owned post 2000’s vw’/audi’s (1999 to 2005) the 1.8t is just a fun engine, with minimal modification you can put down 240-260hp in a 2800lb hatch or sedan and it’s really just a blast. i personally enjoy the styling of this era in VW/Audi, especially the B5/MK4 platforms. it’s mainly about the culture. it’s a very laid back community from what i’ve seen from the VW guys who own these cars. the B5 S4 community is a different story😂. but as of now i have a 2.7t swapped b6 s4 and the interior holds up beautifully, and the styling i do really enjoy with the wider angrier flares and front end (yes i know the rear is a hot take but i enjoy it) and the Quattro system paired with the OA3 transmission snd the 2.7t is just a riot. With a stage 2 tune you break 300’s and with ko4’s you sit comfortably at mid to high 400’s depending on fuel choice. its something to experience in all of it’s facets, more than just the vehicle. going to a massive meet for the first time and seeing all of these swapped and built early 2000’s VW’s and Audi’s and all of the owners being down to earth and willing to talk and share what they know just made me feel accepted even before i had gotten into it. everyone has their opinions though i and i do respect them. have a good day y’all🤟🏼
The GT-R and Supra deserve some of the hype, but people, especially clout car guys, overhype them way too much. Yes, their engines are refined and can handle a large amount of tuning, but that's not the only thing note worthy about these cars.
Unpopular opinion, I think the hype around the Supra and Skyline are based more of Gran Turismo and Forza. For several installments those were the best cars in the games along with the RX-7
No matter how much I try. I just can’t see the R35 as a “GTR” It’s just a suped up Z car. It’s like a boosted, properly made 350/370. The fact that it never came in manual, it looks like a Z car, cost 100k and was sold mostly on hype, and have almost died out says it all. I’m sure it’s pretty great, but I could never see it as a skyline.
The problem with asking people what they think is over rated is that most of the people will just put cars they have never driven, where underrated cars come from more of actual owners/drivers
It’s kinda weird how skylines and Supras have spiked in price because 12 years old hype them up, but they’re not even old enough to drive let alone be able to afford a car in the first place.
