Cataract Canyon Without Lake Powell: A Monumental Legacy Of Dried Mud 

Wow sounds like an awesome child hood! U could probably write a book and inspire a movie! Did you get to see any of the 1000's of petroglyphs?

Yes as a matter of fact we used to go off roading. And found many petroglyphs. And we found arrowheads and little sandstone pebbles. We used to frequent the lake. We lived in Page for a few years. It was very fascinating to live there. I am thinking my favorite memories were finding the the horned toads. And even as a kid I remember how beautiful the sky was, and all the stars at night.

@@sthrnbll2u65 yes I was able to see this lake many times. Used to go every summer. Saw awesome ruins like defiance house and 3 roof ruins. As well as La Gorce arch and rainbow. Wouldn't mind seeing this lake disappear and have a chance to explore the river.

@@jared6361 I can only imagine the gems in the lake bed! I agree that would be another awesome exploration! Man that sounds like fun!

@@jared6361 the lake is a travesty just like so many rivers that were raped by human ignorance.

Yup.. I think he's like you wanna play God humans?.. Here solve this problem.. go ahead I'll wait...

I love believers.

My god says she can beat up your god! Hits you with a water squirt.

@@codyjones1098 Now that there was funny! Even if I don't believe you 🤣

Just keep shitting in our living room talking about how God will clean it up huh?

You do know Lake Powell's Echo Bay and Overton Beach have been abandoned for years?

There is pro's and cons to both side of the debate, with a full pool Lake Powell looses 2x the water needs of Cali on a yearly basis due to evaporation. However it produces clean power and provides recreation for all above and below the dam.

No we need to stop thinking we can have endless growth in a desert. The east gets plenty of rain. Seems a better landscape for human habitation

@@ecolocalguy The Vax is gonna cure that..

Thank You Mr. Zumwalt for sharing your first hand experience about this. It seems that well intentioned and enthusiastic supporters of these types of causes would gain valuable information by learning from the folks like you, who’ve seen it from the beginning!

Glen Canyon was not an ideal place for storing water anyways. Too much seepage plus all that silt from the San Juan, Green rivers etc. But Mead couldn't function without Powell as you said. JW Powell was right about not opening up the SouthWest to settlement and farming in a rampant fashion.

Interesting “solution “ to the problem. I was guessing they would pipe it over from the Columbia. Bureau keeps saying there is a plan in place to conserve. Wonder when that kicks in? Guess there’s still nothing to see here. Lol.

Water is more precious than gold. Gold will not grow a tree, but water will. Too many people, not enough water, even though our planet is covered with water.

I bet you type faster than you talk.

They are only trying to provide for their profiteering and exploitation.

@@ericmuschlitz7619 Agreed.

Or 4th, let the shithole cities like LA and Phoenix suffer the consequences of overgrowth and abuse of the limited water resource. A desert will not yield to human desires

The lake and dam are working as planned will fill again.sorry ashole

@@morganeast3403 Wishful thinking by a clueless idiot. Didn’t work when they built the thing, won’t work now. In a few years it will be too low to make power.

Maybe we should have never invented the wheel and sat in our cave and ate jerky. Did you ever think that if man had stayed in his cave and never ventured out were we would be? Fast forward to today. If we had no water nobody would have moved here. Sure the Indians lived here but they didn’t need internet, cars, drug stores, zip lines. You get it? We are all hypocrites saying we don’t need dams or electricity or water. Yes you do! And solar is not going to do everything for us for all you green people out there. We all have needs, and as long as we keep advancing as humans we will develop and spread further out. We will all be mixed ethnicity. No more black, white, yellow, skin. Right now our lives are just a split second in Earth time. Live your life and enjoy and quit worrying about mud in the bottom of lake Powell. In my lifetime I have seen a lot of changes as we all have. Some good and some bad. Life’s to short to sit around and complain. Humans try to do the best we can to survive.

@@geckocanyon We are very clever creatures no doubt. But we have made changes in systems that we don’t understand. It’s like letting 3 yos play with matches. The arrogance of our civilization knows no bounds. Unfortunately the planet is going to impose limits on us no matter how smart we think we are. You are forgetting that every single thing we need and use, every breath, bite of food or toy comes from nature in the end. Nature is being relentlessly dismantled to feed our short sighted stupidity. Had we kept our population close to anything sustainable we had a chance. Instead we have bred like rats. Our uninformed meddling has altered the planet beyond its ability to compensate and now we get to pay. No amount of rage will make it rain or get cooler as the co2 shoots past 419 ppm.

And you probably think you're a Tesla runs on clean energy

Actually JWP testified to congress that the west will never support a large population..

And back then they didn’t heed his advice, either.

@@weary1 His Journey started in Meeker Co (thinking that was the headwaters) then he floated to the confluence of the White / Green rivers and said Ruh Row.

It’s difficult to imagine how he and (most of) his crew made that journey. Not to mention all the important knowledge gained about the area. Quite a man.

@@weary1 I've floated the Grand twice, first trip was in 89 in a 14' raft. I would tell myself on several occasions stop your sniveling if a one armed man can do this in a wooden boat so can you! lol Another factoid from his journey is that he was the only one to have a life jacket on (made from wooden sticks..) If you ever make it to Green River Ut stop and check out the JWP Museum Then go over to Rays Tavern for for dinner, there is pics of Cataract Canyon at it's glory!! White Water!!

I would prefer that JWP came back and say "I told You So!"

Heres a thought...maybe building mega cities in a desert is not a good idea? We can defy nature only so long.

@@ecolocalguy Really? For how long?

The government needs to stop trying to manipulate nature, that's the problem.

Why’s that? In an average runoff year, it would have come up 10-15 feet already. This is what a drought looks like. This year is projected to be less than 8’ of rise. This is worse than it sounds in terms of water volume because the relationship between reservoir elevation and water volume is not linear. Water level changes are much more profound for a given volume at low elevation than they are at high elevation. The lower the lake gets, the faster it drops for the same amount of water.

@@gumwap1 Drove Loveland pass. April 1 and May 31. There was little snow (water). Drove the Virgin River Gorge. The Rio Virgin is green with stagnant water. Mojave was 120° and looking dead.

how exciting eh! or sad waste of time. you decide.

That's stupid

If we're going to go that far we should talk about LA and it being a desert.

You’re missing the point, which is that we don’t have a choice. The rain and snowfall annual averages which allowed Lake Powell and Lake Mead to be filled 50 and 100 years ago are gone and they’re not coming back.

@@warrenolmsted How different is the snow fall in 08 compared to then?

@@warrenolmsted Perhaps they should stop manipulating the weather???

Ask the anasazi about climate change. Well you can't, they were genocided by the last big drought. And it wasn't caused by carbon emissions back then. Must be a cycle