Sans aucun jugement, bon courage à ce plaisancier dans cette épreuve s’il lit ce message, en espérant qu’il garde le moral et puisse repartir au plus vite.
Looks like he lost his topping lift and had a hank on headsail. I'm surprised he didn't just go back in when he had the boat headed towards the pier, the bow was coming around. Hope this sailor is alright. If you haven't gotten yourself in a bad way at some point then you're a liar or never leave the dock.
It seems that the halyard jammed. Why he then carried on into danger is mystifying. He had ample room to come around if under power, and there was even a window for jibing around if he had committed early enough. I had a jammed halyard once, on a charter boat that I shouldn't have trusted. The lessons for me that day were (a) check your lines BEFORE leaving the harbor, especially on a vessel not your own, and (b) when things go wrong, the effects quickly multiply, so have a plan for contingencies. That was half a lifetime ago, and there have been many more such lessons. I got lucky with most of them. This poor skipper did not.
Well fuck, for all the armchair skippers out there who have never made a mistake ( or more likely never had the bollocks to take a chance) it’s fucking obvious he had his motor on ( unless you’ve never actually had a sailboat) until he had very obvious problems pulling up his main. After that it went to shit. No one. Knows what problems he had after that because his main never went higher and his boat drifted .Put yourselves there brave new sailors of the purple sage.
I don't think he had the engine on. If he had it would be fuckin easy to get out of this situation. I think his engine died. You can't see any propwash. looks like he was only pushed out with the tide and for some reason couldn't get his main sorted in time.
Situation bizarre on comprend que le skipper n'a pas réussi à hisser sa grand voile totalement. Malgré tout on voit qu'il avance je pense donc que son moteur était en état de fonctionnement je ne comprends pas pourquoi il n'a pas longé la jetée pour aller un peu plus au large et solutionner le problème de sa grand-voile. Maintenant il y a peut-être des choses que l'on ignore sur la situation j'espère que son bateau n' est pas trop abîmé et que le skipper pourra vite repartir en mer.
A very tough predicament. I'm guessing he was trying to get the sail back down but it was stuck. At that point I think he could have focused on driving the boat under power...let the sail flog until open water. Depending how long he was on the rocks that boat probably took a lot of damage. Looks like he was solo not a great day to be heading out.
@@josephreilly6328 Only it wasn't a jetty, it was a pier, with a fairly vigorous wash passing under it. I agree, though, that it was the more sheltered side of the channel even so. He didn't have to carry on out to sea, there was ample room to come about, provided that he was under power.
How sad for him. I pray he is going to be ok. I hope he will recover quickly and keep sailing. We learn more from our mistakes than our success. That looks like a day to enjoy staying in the harbor. The topping lift and boom so far down? He could have used an expert crew man that would have said today is a better day not to leave. Maybe his crew already told him that and to reef that sail and raise it tight at the dock. I am not sure an engine could provide enough power. What a tragic day. Such an expensive hard lesson.
Morale de cette situation, par mauvais temps, sors ta grand voile lorsque tu es rendu au large car s'occuper d'un problème de tissu lorsqu'on est dans un chenal est une très mauvaise idée...
Comme le dit Foil, Fun & Fly, la grand voile doit être hissée au port, on serre coté digue, et surtout tenir compte des courants traversants en sortie de passe, par fort coefficient. L'échouage sur ces cailloux est fréquent.
et ben non Luc, mauvaise idée de la sortir au large, l'idéale c'est de la hissé dans le chenal , bien avant de sortir, avoir de la vitesse, c'est l'essentiel, deuxième remarque, cela peut arriver à n'importe qui de foiré son envoye de gv, par contre j'aurais fais demi tour pour revenir même avec une moitié de gv, par contre il est en solo, peut être pas de pilote ou de inbord pour sortir en solitaire.....Je pense la prochaine fois qu'il ou elle réfléchira au savoir de sortir avec un joli voilier....Hissé une gv à la sortie du port, et ce faire secoué c'est pire...
All kinds of fun there huh. My hindsight advice is, assuming the sail was stuck, release, cut, or whatever you need to do to get that sail flapping free, you’d at least have a chance of motoring through that wind and current. A main sheet costs a lot less than a new hull. I’ve turtled a sail kayak in a busy channel once with many chances to make a better decision, no judgment here lol :)
There is no way to lower a sail from on deck if the halyard is jammed at the sheave. You would have to go up the mast. All that was possible there with a jammed halyard was to ease the sheet. And that would have been enough in that situation. It would have been more of a disaster if the boat had proceeded out to sea. The sail is fully depowered anyway, so it won't provide lift, but it will produce some drag so as to help return to harbor. Evidently the boat has enough engine power for steerage way, even head to wind, so it could be controlled. It's mostly psychological distress here, with the boom on the cabin top and the sail luffing violently. It can be hard to think straight, especially as a new sailor.
@@starfishsystems I don’t think you watched the whole video, that sail is definitely not completely depowered in all directions, especially at 3:01, that sail’s absolutely catching wind and heeling the boat over, pinning it to the rocks at the worst possible time. Had he cut or completely released the main sheet he’d have a better chance.
Looks like he was trying to raise the main in the channel, but was fouled. I would have motored with a little more power to keep the headway clearing the entrance, then dropped it and returned, or continued to try raising in the ocean. Single handing is not easy sometimes. Hard to watch a fellow sailor in trouble like that. Hopefully he/she had a good recovery
Very painful to watch, as it's easy to get into a situation when single-handed in a breeze. I hope the boat didn't suffer too much in the breakers against those rocks.
Why full sail, looks like he should have had that main reefed down. Maybe a bungee on his tiller to help self steer a bit while up on deck. Hard to have directional stability without a storm jib. Maybe Motor throttled up a bit. Sorry to see that hull dinged up, hope he got it back in!
It wasn't prudent to carry on. Not that we haven't all made such mistakes in judgment, but it's a lot easier to clear a fouled halyard when you're not also trying to steer a narrow channel in a seaway. Ease the sheet, come round, get back into sheltered water, then assess.
The tough life of a solo sailor. … it’s about priorities and wrong decisions are costly!! Shame, Bon Chance mate.! Get in clear water then sort that crap out.
This is absolutely unbelievable. He or She had plenty of time to have just dropped the main and turn around. Looks like they did have a working engine ? It's all very sad to see but hope all are safe 🙏
Why even leave port on such a windy day? Why deploy sails until you’re safely out into open water? It is not possible to make a judgement on how much sail you need out when you’re still in the shelter of an inlet, or marina! Then when in a narrow channel flanked by rocks and a pier, use your engine with conviction and make a b line for open water, observing chart plotter/local chartlet, local advice on when it is safe/not safe to enter and exit, while keeping a close eye on all channel markers. It is important to make sure your boat can make adequate headway, which means observing the state of tide, whether it’s springs, or neaps. This guy was crawling along, wavering from side to side. You keep a straight course by monitoring a transit line, regularly looking forward and aft, to see how tidal flows and windage are affecting your course. Im reluctant to say he asked for it by not following the fundamentals of good seamanship. If he had done, I’m sure his boat would not even have left its berth that day! Ignore these rules at your peril - some do because they have big egos, or are over confident, or are incompetent. Sometimes all of these things. The sea can be powerful and merciless - don’t mess with it!
He needed something...another crew or to be able to motor out first then choose a tack & go. This way he was fighting to fill the main on either tack & as a single- hander it was almost too much. That is, a rocky point downwind & a breakwater to bump into if he could have made headway on port tack. Barely successful as it was (so it seemed)
The boat wasn't sailing, evidently because of a fouled halyard. There was therefore no possibility of filling away on either tack. All he could do under sail was wear around, or come around through the wind under engine power which seemed adequate for that purpose. In this scenario it was not critical to get the halyard free. It would have become critical if he'd carried on out to sea. Or he could have returned to harbor and dealt with it in much greater safety there.
@@starfishsystems Ah hah, I thought there might be something unusual going on with the boat. Lots to do & often do quickly when trying to pull away from shore.
The fouling of the main had this fella cut the engine to find some time to clear it before he hit open sea. The current was against him. Restarting his engine may have been more involved than we know. Turning around would have involved a jibe and, with no jib and no forward momentum, the boat pushed into the rocks. It's possible he also had engine trouble. The assumption is the sailor was experienced, but that was mainly due to his pricey yacht and clothes and the fact that he insisted on heading out alone in that weather 😳
That was a novice sailor for sure. It was painful to watch one escape plan after another slip out of reach, untried, while the one sure path to disaster became ever more inevitable. He had enough sea room initially to jibe around. Even with the boom hanging it would have come across, unless the sheet was fouled too. I suppose that's a possibility. But it had to be done promptly, before the boat made leeway. And it wasn't even tried.
Quelqu'un sait ce qui a merdé ? On dirait que l'envoi de GV n'est pas optimal... Quoi d'autre ? Est-ce qu'il a voulu prendre un ris a la dernière minute ?
Qué pena por querer izar la vela en la mar cayó en las restingas. Con suerte zafó con vida y flor se susto; tal vez hasta recuperó el barco. Tendria que haber izado la mayor y salir de puerto con la vela gualdrapeando, luego cazarla con gobierno aún en la rompiente; mas no intentarlo cerca de las restingas...
Only one neat clean easy option - drop the main, & go back down the river - there's a following wind. If the main won't drop - get back down the river anyway - there's a following wind. Once down the river, u hv options - anchor, or fight with the sail again while the boat drifts, knowing that u might collide with the bank (safer than colliding with rocks). Boat must hv been severely damaged on the rocks. By the look of the jetty piles, and the river surface, tide is just coming up to, or down from, hi-water. Tide coming down, boat is hi & dry soon on the rocks. Tide coming up, boat is pounded more. And there was all that huge space of calm river behind him to drift back into ... his actions make no sense - unecessary and pointless. What was he expecting ?
His topping lift was entirely off, that was part of the problem. But the real problem was that his halyard was jammed. His focus on trying to free it meant that he lost his chance with other options.
C est de ses erreurs ,que l ont apprend,ne pas jeter la pierre ,cela nous est tous arrivé,penser aussi ,que le moteur peut tomber en panne, envoyé un minimum de génois , aurais peut être était mieux ,
Encore un plaisancier du dimanche qui pense que ça va aller tranquillement... Ben non, fait déjà sortir au moteur et après on monte les voiles Mais vu la météo, tu restes au port et tu profites de ta famille.
Sortie du port de Courseulles avec vent 7Bft 😱 dans le nez avec la houle qui va avec et décroche des algues car nous avons les roches de Bernières à côté donc la dernière solution est la bonne 👏 à 6Bft je l'ai fait en vérifiant bien la motricité du bateau dans l'avant port mais pas plus ( Avec des bateaux plus lourds et un couple moteur suffisant évidemment ça passe mieux mais le risque de passer sur un paquet d'algues existe toujours )
Encore un bon rigolo de Parisien de la SRC .. déjà seul , qui veut sortir la GV dans le chenal .. la voile n’est pas hissée ainsi que la balancine .. donc avec un force 5/6 de NE , tu passe la girafe et après tu envoi les voiles … Charlot .
La météo ? Il s'en fout. Sortir du port au moteur ? Il s'en fout. Lui faire la morale ? Il s'en fout. La mer s'en charge de donner des leçons de morale à ce genre de plaisancier.
@@petel7672 Firstly you assess a situation before you start. That means you look at the weather the situation and your capability. The sailor failed to do this. Next you prepare. He didn't. The sail should have been properly reefed and hoisted. To do this the sail needs to be flat and hoisted properly so it will generate power. He didn't. Next the boat should be positioned to windward and you need maximum speed so engine running flat out a sail sheeted in so you have power and tack fast and have minimum leeway. And you need to know channel depth your draft and if it's a lift keel it needs to be down. And if draft is a problem don't go. I have extensive experience sailing across bars. He sailed without courage and fucked around. There is no try. Do or do not. He should take up golf.
My comments seem harsh. They are. I used to teach sailing at a sailing school. The lives of children of adults were my responsibility. It is critical that you sail properly so safety is maintained. It is a recreational sport. It's okay to say not today. I have been in many storms in many situations but if your prepared your already 3 steps ahead. This was completely avoidable. I also ride motorcycles. I am always asking myself how could I do better. What could I have done better. Because I know that my life depends on it. It is essential to protect your crew your boat and yourself. It is meant to be fun. Cheers all and stay upright...
.......example of a really bad skipper who made a really bad decision and jeopardized the safety of himself his boat and crew, hope he learned a lesson, but many times these type of people dont learn ...
