CATCHING CHEATERS in World of Tanks! 

Quickybaby: *tries to hide names* Quickybaby: *opens the leaderboard and every single name shows*

Quickibaby: Censors all of the names out for privacy reasons; Also Quickybaby: 4:27

"the most harsh punishment wg can ever give out" WG:SENDS TOMAHAWK MISSILE

Exposing cheating on a large YT channel like this one is about the only way to get WG's attention.

I know many players call other players / teammates "bots" but this is something I seriously didn't expect nor have ever seen in WoT in 3 years of play

If you, arguably the greatest promotor of WOT and a liaison between the community and WOT, cannot get the cheaters perma-banned then the rest of us do not have a prayer.

EU servers..."I can't believe players cheat like this". RU servers..."I can't believe they got caught".

Despicable is all I can say of what they did. Admirable of you to take of your time and exposed them and raise awareness!

I was wondering the other day how red players were getting 6 to 9k damage. Was wondering why there was suddenly players doing silly amounts of damage while 14 other players couldn't get anywhere near that damage amount. In the back of my mind I thought something was fishy but never thought this was going on. Sickening. One week ban, that makes one very disappointed with WG.

A week? One week? The effect of their cheating on Marks alone lasts longer than the punishment. Unreal. Good catch Quicky, and this (or variations of this) is probably more widespread than any of us can imagine. The anemic punishment only encourages this behavior, frankly.

Quickybaby, I fully understand on how you feel about cheating that occurs. Quite frankly, I think that the punishment should be more severe and that ALL Accounts that were involved in this should be PERMANENTLY BANNED from "World of Tanks." Being "banned for a week" is more of an inconvenience rather than teaching them a lesson.

Your dedication to this game is great to see. Just played WoT again after a leave for more than a year. Mainly to play my few favorite tanks.

Thanks QB for being our voice, well done lad, well done.

This has been happening for years. Many years ago when I played regularly I submitted many replays with this exact behaviour.

This cheat has been around since the beginning, but running 4 accounts to get a mastery badge is a sign they need to get out more and have a life. Whenever you see a tank idle on the spawn, you have to ask who is running it. Sometimes the cheater ends up with all their tanks on the same team.

Just watched one of Klaus's video's where he shows something possibly ever worse, everyone is right, it would not be hard to detect such tactics being used and at at a guess, I would suggest it's "companies" offering to get you a 279e or similar in 30 days that control so many accounts, that if they play at relatively quiet server times, the chances of the player they are "boosting" ending up against one of their platoons, is quite high.

What can I say, I'm part of this clan but I am extremely disappointed. I discovered that the players in the video were doing this yesterday and I didn't really know what to say. But I'm kinda glad Karma struck. Thanks for speaking up for the community QB! Also, if anybody is curious as to why this happened: Somebody paid our clan leader for a boost through the campaign missions. Regardless of why it happened, it's unacceptable and nobody should do it. At least I got a good reason to leave the clan, lol

I only wish this was the most troublesome thing I had to worry about in my life.

Wow, I had that exact same heavy tank platoon in my team yesterday in one of my battles. In Paris map they drove against building walls in the spawn area and stood there until destroyed and we lost the match. I can't remember any clearly suspicious actions from the enemies.

“You will never find a more wretched hive of scum and villainy. We must be cautious." ~ Obi Wan Kenobi,

Quickybaby: wants to get these cheaters banned Also quickybaby: hides the cheaters name tags 🙄😑

Could you do a community post if WG actually confirms if they will deal with these players

I really used to love this game I started playing about a year after it was released. Over the years I belonged to several clans. This practice was pretty common and I left a couple different clans because of it. I seldom play anymore and I’m not surprised this is still going on. A weeks punishment is a joke. Their accounts should be wiped and make them go through the appeal process to get them back. Good catch QB.

Should ban those cheaters permanantly good job QB!

I once reported something like that to WG, 3 players doing no damage at all and being AFK the whole game. Wg told me it was maybe because of a connection bug or something... They didn't get banned.

Quickie - Check Claus's comments on your video. He went even deeper into this incident. That clan (all four are from the same clan) counted in 30 times in a single session and it appears that 30 times the platoon ended up on one team and the Leo landed on the other team. And in all 30 games the platoon did exactly the same thing. Never fired a shot, had a WIN 8 of exactly zero and lost 95% of their games while the Leo did the opposite. The bigger question is how did they manipulate the game so that they never landed on the same team and always landed in the same game? I've counted in many times on the NA server with its much smaller player base and it came out to one in five-ish times some, but not all, of my clan mates would land in the same game as me and about 50-50 on the same team. I've never seen counting in this accurate or anything close to it. WOT needs to take a very close look at this far beyond a simple one game counting in cheat by a clan. How often does this clan do this and how many battles have they screwed up? I tried to look at the clan on WOT Labs but the WOT API is still not working so the stats aren't there. THe clan is there but the API shows no stats and no players other than the clan commander's name.

Problem is WG won't do anything about it even if you report it. They litterally reward cheating and this type of behavior.

you can see all the names at 4:27 XD

4:27 the names of all tanks are unblurred!

The saddest part of me is that anyone who play this game supposedly for fun would want an imaginary vehicle (or would want people who you have never met and are unlikley to ever meet to think you play well enough to earn) that they would pend $500 bucks to cheat your way to it - and in so doing, screw over some number of fellow players by ruining their games while cheating. And I doubt this could go on without WG knowing about it - and accepting this going on, for a cut.

Thank you Quickybaby for your service to the game!

Cheers for this QB, the game is frustrating enough already without these cheating scumbags. Lets hope they got their accounts permanently banned.

This happens so frequently, I have learned to i.d the dummy tanks on my team almost immediately.

I'm on the US server, and I wish this video had come out a couple of weeks ago. I was in a number of battles shortly after the Italian TDs came out where apparently-good players, with win rates over 50% and tens of thousands of games, somehow did zero damage and basically accomplished nothing, and our side ended up losing badly. Had I seen this video at the time, I would have at least pulled out my replay file and checked to see what happened, rather than simply assuming just a bad bout of RNG.

I can say from own experience, contacting WG Support for cases of unfair conduct is pointless, well maybe not if you are a well known streamer, but in my cases it resulted in a automated standard response thats all.

Have seen leos and stbs shooting over and over without any tanks spotted in their firing direction and end up with tons of damage. I always wondered how they were doing it. Thanks QB for showing us

You gotta name and shame these cheaters. For anyone that wants to know, Claus Kellerman names them all in a video he did today.

He tried so hard and got so far... 4:30 xD

I’m not convinced WG isn’t involved. There’s certainly enough evidence that nefarious behavior is happening and they have done nothing to address it. I now only play occasionally and absolutely refuse to spend another dime on it until they do.

Was watching QB live when this happened. So stoked that QB took this in depth reporting approach, to concisely present the presence of organized cheating for Marks in our game.

Been playing longer than most and have never encountered such blatant cheating, so that’s good news about the game in general. But my experience of reporting players for unsportsmanlike conduct is the worst. WoT spends more time questioning the reporting party than banning the offenders. After several tries I gave up entirely.

What an eye opener this was. As a "vanilla" player I have always accepted that some cheating occurs and noted school holidays tends to see a marked increase; but this is something else. I have played other FPS games that ban cheats (via IP & MAC addresses) immediately NO warning given, instant ban, and "In game moderators" can "kick" players mid-battle if dodgy play is noted, and they then get banned. As Claus Kellerman says in his video on this subject; "Wargaming can stop this if they really set their mind to it". This will be something I will watch for. Thanks for the clear "heads up".

Thanks to Claus finding another uploaded game by this group showing off their high dmg in another tanks, what QB didn't point out is that all 4 accounts are in the same clan. Different people behind each account or the same? Claus also used a stat site to find the highest dmg games uploaded in each tank on each server and review the details of each game to see that either there was often a disconnection immobilizing nearly all of the opposing players leaving an entire game full of tanks to crush by those lucky tanks not to suffer a disconnection on their other side. After you get past those disconnection games you can see low scoring platoons are present in many of the high dmg examples and see they never took shots or moved, etc as evidence of this kind of cheating that QB discovered. The biggest question then becomes the sheer consistency of being able to join the same game with the your rigged platoon on the other side in a single day. This is the biggest concern expressed by Claus K on NA. Is there special software modifications required to time the precision to allow for so many games to have the rigged platoon on the opposite side (not your own side) to explain this clan being able to do this over the course of a single day. Also why not punish the clan as a whole? Often times this level of cheating is organized and sanctioned by the clan. There is a lot of pressure to make your clan look the best they can to attract better players etc. Seems like when you see all 4 players are part of the same clan then it seems more reasonable to suggest that its not just a cheater player issue, its a cheating clan issue and punish the group as well as the players. This might incent clan organizers to warn their players never to cheat or risk the entire clan's progress be suspended/banned.

While I have stopped really watching QB, when he does things like this I commend him for it. Using his influence in this way is absolutely necessary and great work by him.

Boosting happens in probably every multiplayer game out there, though, I've really only noticed it in CoD. Guy with Tactical Insertion or similar skill sits in corner while another player on the opposite team sits with them, killing them after they respawn. Helps them get nukes or boosts their stats for gun camos.

Yaay doing his part

WG doesn't seem to care about cheaters. When one of WG's top CC's catches four cheaters, makes a video of them on RU-vid, personally reports them to war gaming, and wargaming bans the cheaters for a week. BS!!! So you know when the average Joe reports cheaters nothing gets done. But thank you QB and rock on man.

On top of that, The Obj. 140 was a goldspammer + Because of Leopard 1 people who are trying to do those "be top 1 in dmg or deal 20% of team damage" missions, they won't succeed..

After watching this on Twitch live yesterday, I was stunned. QB puts as much time and effort into this game as anyone, and to see his effort wasted because of cheating got me upset. A week ban is not nearly enough. These players should straight up lose their accounts.

Good job QB, appreciate your time and efforts.

QB, great work! Appreciate your observations and iron will against fraud.

Thanks QB. This is my 11th year and im a poor enough player, but I really try hard to support my team. This has blown my mind. Now I am eyes wide open. Thanks to you mate! Well done!

The word integrity should NEVER be in the same sentence with WOT unless the word NO is in front of it.

Question: How do you manage to get the 3 players you gonna farm as opponents? The match maker picks random players, doesn't it?

Great presentation QB. Its good for all gamers that play WOT that you are on the case. War gaming needs to protect their game and take firm action on this. Thumbs Up!

Dear QB; Thank you for making a video. I would like to see an interview between you and a spokesperson from WG. Because a week ban for something like this is unacceptable. I would also like to point out that you being able to spot this, based on data that is readily available for everyone, should also make WG able to write a program to investigate these instances pro-actively. Because apparently they do not this and thus cannot claim that they do everything within their power to stop cheating. Just my thoughts :)

Though I have a couple WoT accounts, I've been playing Blitz the past few months. Occasionally, on either team, there will be a player who has never left their spawning point or has moved about half way between spawning point and the actual battle site. Without moving or firing a shot, they are able to get points for spotting, blocking and ram damage if someone on the opposite team rammed and took damage. The inactive tank will get enough points to place third from the bottom. After watching this video, I'm going to keep track of these inactive players to see if there are any repeats and which clan they belong to. Great video. Thank you for publishing it.

I had this once. Saw a guy firing at a random spot. I was in my jg pz e100 and my curiousity got the better of me. I shot in the same spot and killed an is-7. I reported 6 people in that platoon who were all around that position. They deserve a 1 month ban. Or permanent ban, you dont want this in your game.

Quickbaby, thank you for making this video. I have seen bizarre situations like this myself and always suspected something was amiss. Thank you also for investigating it so precisely and for taking it up with Wargaming. I am sure you'll get the standard response that we all do and so things will continue. It's a shame as their systems should be able to detect these anomalies for further investigation but I guess it's just not worth their while.

When I first saw this video I was thinking "the problem can't be that big, most players are just idiots".. Tonight I've had 4 matches (in a row) with platoons that did 0 dmg, less than 1km of distance and I can't help but thinking the problem is a lot larger than a single player with a few extra accounts..

this is just one other reason i have quit playing WoT

Sadly, this is one of the reasons I quit WOT years ago. I wasn't a good enough player to be in tiers VIII-X, so I stuck with tier VI and lower where I was a bit more comfortable. Unfortunately, even at lower tiers, there were too many instances where (whether cheating was involved or not) there'd be a single player or 3 man platoon that would steamroll my entire team 0-15, leaving even my most experienced teammates with a 0 damage, 2 min. game. I was also on the winning team in these instances as well, earning next to nothing anyway, despite the overwhelming victory. Win or lose, I was getting nowhere. Maybe I'm just unlucky, I don't know, but this happened in my games A LOT, so I quit cold turkey to focus on other stuff instead of getting frustrated like this on the daily. Sad to see this is still a problem after so many years away, so I'm glad I got out when I did.

This kind of crap, has been going on for years. I have been hit, when not even spotted, telling me that someone on my side was helping the other side. But, as far as the game being rigged, it is. I may play 30 games, lose 3/4ths of them, just because I am stuck with weaker players. Normally, it's not even close. Most of these people have no clue about tactics. But, I can do more damage than anyone, have more kills, but cannot win because of all the weak players on my team.

This is very common in clans, especially clans trying to get their friends a tank like the 279e, very frustrating seeing them get away with it because of how much goes on in a battle, hard to keep track of four people cheating out of a 30 person game

Ir would be great to know how these players managed to be matched in the same battle. Iknow it’s easier at really late night but not so easy when QB was playing.

When the guy sit down at the bar and tell the girl: " I have 3 marks of excelence on my Leo!". She wont give him even slap. 😆

*concentrates* I believe I can predict the response from WG... "Thank you for contacting Wargaming Player Support. We are sorry that you have to meet such players. We understand how frustrating this situation can be. With the information you have provided us, we took appropriate measures according to our Game Rules and punishment instructions. Unfortunately, we cannot disclose the exact measures we took due to the protection of data privacy. We appreciate your understanding. However, we assure you that violations of the Game Rules are met with appropriate sanctions. We wish you a great day and good luck on the battlefield. If there is anything else we can help you with, please do not hesitate to contact us again. "

Here via Claus Kellerman's recommendation. Good work QB. The opinion in the comments on his response/musings, is that it'll be worse than you may be suggesting ie a great many platoons "boosting" stats for other players in a session. He also looked at quite a few of the "highest damage" games and they all appear either rigged or possible only because the game "broke", so skewing the numbers even further for legit MoE players.

This reminds me of the many reasons that made me stop playing. Even WoWs I played more and more while quitting WoT, but eventually me liking tanks and warships didn't compensate for the lack of quality from WG to maintain the gameplay and player pool in a healthy competitive situation.

Hello QB, I've seen cheating far worse than this on the console version of the game. Where both teams farmed each other and cornered me and a few other players against houses to farm us. I sent it to wargaming support and they handled it very fast and were super nice.

A few weeks ago, I’ve started playing WoTB again after a 3 year break. I can call myself a very above average “good” player, but the amount of utter noobs is just insane and the play style looks very bot-ish to me. Seeing this happening in WoT started me thinking.

Years ago I used to be competitive in game and was a "blue" player. However in the last few years I encounter this stat padding garbage in game "A LOT" and I seem to be lucky enough to land on the AFK platoon team often. There is always some platoon that will sit in bushes with their rear armor facing the enemy. I've submitted this to war gaming and all they ever say is "we will look into it but we cant share any detail of out findings". If you check back in the next few days, weeks, month, the account(s) are still active and doing the same trash. WG doesn't seem to care this is happening in game. Not only that, but these same platoons use these techniques to complete missions for other players. For example they accept payments so that they can get you the 279e and stuff like that. Again, crickets from WG. I've played this game since its release, so I'm not writing this as someone who is butt hurt or crying about stats. I don't play for stats and really I don't play WOT as much as I once did because of stuff like this. Thanks QB for the video... Clause Kellerman has also exposed some of this going on but like I said, this has been happening for a while now and its driving away some of the player base. Maybe with exposure coming from bigger CC's - Wg will actually take it serious; apparently the voice of the little players means nothing. 07

Hopefully you being a contributer will make them listen! Well done Quickybaby!

Similarly happened to me when the enemy arty was communicating with an arty on my team, probably using a video stream of the battle. I was only able to tell because our 2 other artillery were blind killed at the beginning and the only artillery not killed was his friend who didn't fire a single shot. Also the enemy arty was blind firing my team no matter where they were. Of course I saved the replay and sent a ticket to WG.

As a normal, regular player, I am disgusted from this conduct... I do not want to be a player in any of this teams in such a game... I think nobody wants. Well done for catching those cheaters, I hope they get what they deserve!

this happend to me and i reported and send a replay but nothing was done

I almost bet this is a level-up "service" in operation trying to complete missions.

I've said for years that there should be an option NOT to have platoons in random battles. Even if there's no cheating going on, platoons unfairly skew the likely outcome of the game. For example a platoon of 3 tomatoes vs one of 3 unicums. In that example youve effectively given the enemy team a huge advantage (the 3 enemy unicums + 2 of the friendly tomatoes, since the 3rd tomato wouldve been in the battle anyway as a solo player)

tbh they might be real players being farmed as i saw a player called marybanks from the clan rebrn and he/she WOT stats are ' amazing ' and a must see. most bots are more useful

At first I was rather skeptical and was thinking "ah comon, let those friends do their mission stuff, it's already hard enough in recent meta"... but doing this consistantly over 30 battle is clearly not for missions anymore, so 100% rightful to call them cheaters or rather destroying the game experience.

Why does WG need anymore evidence? Permanently banning those accounts should be a easy route of action. There are too many players rigging games in order to achieve some mark or daily mission or campaign objectives. How often do we see lights go on suicidal spotting runs at beginning of game when we have no arty? Done merely because they have an objective to meet, so tank suicides and team then blind. WG encourages players not to win randoms, through all the missions and objectives. WG should change the game, so only marks/objectives/missions are only met when your team wins. Players would focus on the win rather than the objectives. Too often you see top tier players setting the team up to fail so they can then farm maximum damage at the back of the map. Game needs to change.

tbh when i started out wot i never knew the showing tanks module mod was considered a hack lol thankfully i didnt put high tier stuff and learned my lesson quick

Cheating platoon > romanian players. No surprise here.

This is what klaus has been showing for years. Welcome to the club

I support u on exposing cheaters in wot and im surprised why wargaming doesnt take actions about this!

QB, you're missing one possibility here. There are people who offer their services in getting Obj 279e for real money and this is how they do that as well. I doubt it's about MoE.

Thank you QB for opening our eyes ! I will be checking all my games from now on !

I was also feel angry when i was watching the stream. Similarly, i have faced some cases that some players intentionally push me down the hill. However, there is nothing been done by wargaming after i have reported the players in the system you mentioned. Is the reporting system useful? I dont think so.

Would like to see a video from you on the other forms of cheating such as illegal mods. I know WG says they catch these but I know a few players who have them and use them so I have to call into question WG's claim on that front.

I've quit this game like 4 to 5 years ago. I'm amazed how little this nonsense has changed.

Seen your reaction live on twitch yesterday QB, ooofff those guys....I personally find the support should split the punishments, permanently ban the 0-Damage Platoon, and for the boosted players....reset their progress back to fresh, all research gone, all crews gone and all tanks gone.

Never mind WG saying they will ban for a week - the accounts and players associated with them should be banned permanently. Great video - I will now be on the lookout for similar things.

QB if you don’t think that there is an algorithm operating in the game which determines more than half the games, then you are deluded.

how did leopard knew he would end up in the same game as his friends who helped him? before if in a platoon and you clicked play/battle at the same time, there was a 30% chance you got in the same game, but was that not changeD?

God, remember back in the day when people INSISTED that there were no cheats for World of Tanks, and that it was impossible to cheat?

Respect for calling them out. Like, getting 3 marks on a leo 1 is one of the most difficult things you can do in this game. And just because he is willing to open his wallet to get bragging rights, he is ruining someone's legit attempt at it. What a shame.

just got the same type of game, sent the report to wargaming : they dont care, they don't want to ban manually. Fells good man

Thank u so much for reported, QB !

5 or 6 years ago everyone did this. When missions for special vehicles appeared, t-28 or t-55a, can't really remember. Several missions were really hard and they used to que together and hope to get into opposing teams. I participated in several of these " shame battles". 2 of us were in platoon and other friend, who needed his mission done was alone. I remember that there was a mission to destroy 2 SPGs with a single shell while you fight in your SPG. My friend and I stood together in a bush and knocked fence around until our friend "saw" us and fired. in 2 battles, one of spgs survived and mission failed. In third battle, he managed to destroy us, but lost and mission failed... Victory was one of the conditions.

* "This is possibly the biggest act of scumbaggery I have ever seen." *Wargaming scumbaggery not included