Anyone notice in that hooky pokey scene the tide washes bojack and Todd's footprints as a metaphor to never look back and just to just keep moving forward focusing on the footprints you are currently making? Or am I reading in to things?
Marcus Mlakar Maybe. But wasn’t the “keep moving forward” a flawed philosophy? At least in season 3 it was. Maybe at some point the “there’s nothing for you behind you” and “Every happily ever after has the day after happily ever ater” met and together they managed to raise “don’t stop dancing” and her brother “there’s always more show(...) until there isn’t”.
"...or maybe art doesn't need a point. Maybe that's why it's called art" the happy ambivalence that Todd carries is what makes him one of my favourite characters in any show
Bojack was the most realistic show on television The ending and the goodbyes were clumsy and felt incomplete because real life relationships are clumsy and always feel incomplete when they end And I think that was a brilliant way to end such a profound show
I thought the same thing. As much as we were longing for something bigger; for Bojack to somehow get the life he had as a teacher back and make all the amends he could, life just rarely works out that way. Instead he got a clean slate and another chance and there's still so much beauty to that. Even just being able to catch up and see his friends again, that means an awful lot more than it feels most of the time. They really have a lot of guts to do that, leave it on a note that asks for more without begging for it. I'll miss this show, but hopefully I can take what it expressed, learn and move on from it. Because life demands that constant forward focus from us.
I knew the ending was never going to be straight forward ever since this quote from the fourth episode of the show, "Closure is just a thing made up by Steven Spielberg to sell movie tickets."
Coffee and Green Tea Yeah, and that’s because, despite it being an animated show with a cartoonish setting, the way it was written makes it feel so real and it was always on point with its commentary.
*"Hey, wouldn't it be funny if this was the last time we talked to each other?".* BoJack and Diane, two people who went through so much shit together and in the end they have nothing left to say to each other, they don't need each other anymore and they're okay with that. It just kind of ends, just like the show. It's a real, down to earth ending, people come and go. Thank you for everything BoJack.
There's also the feeling Diane said (or tried to) say something to BJ when she got the message in her phone. Things didn't go "a little" wild at the party or when BoJack arrived, kinda like looking back at a place you used to live or someone you used to care so much and realize you no longer feel anything about them, even if you wished you could. So you just sit silently and watch the sky one moment with this one fella you used to hang out. Beautiful, sad and appropriate.
Im not sure thats how it goes... i think is about toxic love all over it. Bojack learned to love Diane and let himself indulge on that feeling, while Diane thought perhaps she deserved that toxic horse, because somehow they understood each other and somehow relied one on each other. That last scene is truly the one in which they let go their feelings and actually agreed to stop "loving" each other. Im not a knack reading non verbal communication, but it seemed to me that they needed one goodbye kiss, but what i am to say?
They used each other as sounding boards to figure out their problems and what kind of people they were really supposed to be. They were in a much better place with themselves on the roof having more or less figured themselves out and changed. They were people that didn't really know or recognise each other anymore having changed so much.
Every season of Bojack Horseman always ends with a profound moment, but this one is the most profound it will ever be. This song paired with that awkward, clumsy, goodbye was fantastic.
It reminded me of an old movie, like The Graduate or something. Totally different tonally, though. I think you could write an interesting contrast -- one is two people who impulsively ran off together and don't know what to do now, and the other is two people who have reached the end of their friendship.
Hakajin Yes it is the graduate and I totally see what you mean. I think there is indeed a neat contrast between the two newlyweds high off their great escape realizing for the first time that life doesn’t end after the wedding ceremony versus Diane and Bojack sitting on a rooftop watching the night sky after all their ups and downs, peacefully coming to terms with the fact that no matter what they do in their lives, life always goes on.
"When someone leaves your life, those exits are not made equal. Some are beautiful and poetic and satisfying. Others are abrupt and unfair. But most are just unremarkable, unintentional, clumsy." I was immediately reminded of this
It's a song about how Diane and Bojack finally found peace. As their sitting looking at the stars which Diane lied about doing with her dad in season 1. That's why the ending is amazing. The whole show is fucked up but in the end they were always there for each other in the end. They both just wanted someone as fucked up as the other one was.
@@fanta6285 yep, Bojack didn't fight to make Diane stay anymore because he knows he might hurt her again and Diane just wants a fresh start with her life.q
They didn’t leave us with a big sad ending like everyone expected. Instead they ended the way a sad story should end. With a moment that makes you think, and ponder the meaning of it all.
That is why the show is so great. It's so real and it totally connects with daily life. Life doesn't have a happy ending, "Life's a beep and then you die" Great show
Just came from Bojack Horseman’s ending. Now I’m questioning why I wanna cry over a talking horse. I’m a little sad why some characters didn’t get a full ending (Hollyhock, for sure) but thinking back, a lot of these characters already had their time in the limelight, so they weren’t necessary for Bojack’s growth making it bitter-sweet. I love this show, I’ve been watching since I was 12, and I doubt I’ll find anything quite like this for the rest of my life. And now Bojack must continue to turn himself around. That’s what it’s all about.
This may sound sad but I think that Hollyhock died, we never really get to know what happened but that's my guess, one last letter either from her or her dads informing him and then her number gets disconnected
@@curtfoosss You know me!? You must have seen me around my friend who's apopular TV and Movie star, Bojack Horseman. Or were you in the asexual meeting? I can't remember.
Yup, I just really love this song and I cry to it. I had no clue it was the finale song in Bojack, it's cool that we can find amazing songs through shows but I really wonder what people wrote about it before the finale. That's what I was looking for when going to the comments, someone who had an emotional attachment to it purely from the song and not the way all these people have. I mean it's cool n all, but I wanna hear the og thoughts someone had on it ya know.
@@sickeninglysweetlikehoney9917 I've loved this song before even putting it to a TV Show song. I personally love this song always makes me understand that it's not about the sad emotion now but it's about remembering all the people you have in your life that can make you hold your head back up. Some of the best people in your life might not always be here, but they will always love you, so learn to keep loving yourself.
The creators of Bojack Horseman did something. They made more than a show. They found a way to truly touch the hearts of millions of people. To capture what the human condition is really about. We all inhabit this world in vulnerable bodies with fragile minds just trying to make sense of this weird thing we call existence. To find a way to be happy in a fleeting life so short, sometimes even cut shorter. Bojack Horseman deserves to be remembered forever.
Idk why I say this here but bojack saved my life. I almost threw myself in front of a train but the story of bojack kinda gave me hope. Ending season 3 was when I had my worse day but he didn't kill himself and so I didn't as well now 3 seasons later I went through 2 years of therapy and I'm happy now. Thank you creators of bojack, thank you.
I always liked the show's concept "there are no happy endings. There's always the morning after." Bojack, Diane, Todd, Princess Carolyn, and Mr. Peanutbutter all never got their happy endings but they moved on and learn to lived their lives forward
How the fuck did this happen? I saw a youtuber called zanny sing this song in one of his videos, searched it up, found this, saw the quotes in the comments and binge watched a cartoon series about an alcoholic horse. Thanks guys. I wasn’t ready for that.
It's pretty amazing seeing all the comments about Bojack. Bojack was such a great show and it really got through to a lot of people. I hope the show and everything helps everyone see everyone a little bit more human (even if the main character was a horse!). The final scene was so perfect, and this song fit it perfectly. Thank you Raphael Matthew Bob-Waksberg for your contribution to the world.
I wanna cry and I hate it. BoJack will be missed, but I feel like this might be the best way to end it. The shows done a lot for me through the years, and only now do I realize that. This is a weirdly profound moment and I don’t know what to do with it
Update: life is better. I’ve re-watched the show once or twice in these past months, and only now do I realize the power it carries. Thanks for everything Bojack.
I know there’s nothing left in the relationship between Diane and Bojack and that’s ok because Diane deserves to be happy, but I’m sad they probably won’t see or talk to each other anymore, they were so close and went through loads of things together. But apart from that, thanks for everything Bojack! 🌹✨
Sometimes friendships end just like that, not by an argument or anything but just because life is life. If they can they will arrange a meeting but now they have their new lives, Diane is married to Guy and living in Houston and BoJack has to complete his prison sentence and maybe will live with Mr Peanutbutter, but at least they managed to end things peacefully
They really pictured how some friendships end so perfectly. I have a few old friends that I don’t talk to anymore, and it didn’t end it a big, dramatic fight it just... ended. They were really different and I’m really different. People change and decide that certain people aren’t meant to be in their life anymore, and that’s completely fine. If I didn’t meet some people though, I wouldn’t be the person I am today, so I’m grateful for them and cherish the good memories. Like Diane said, “I think there are people that help you become the person that you end up being. And you can be grateful for them, even if they were never meant to be in your life forever.” 💙
Mr. Blue, I told you that I love you Please believe me Mr. Blue, I have to go now, darling Don't be angry I know that you're tired Know that you're sore and sick and sad for some reason So I leave you with a smile Kiss you on the cheek and you will call it treason Mr. Blue, Don't hold your head so low That you can't see the sky Mr. Blue, It ain't so long since you were flying high That's the way it goes some days A fever comes at you without a warning And I can see it in your face You've been waiting to break since you woke up this morning Mr. Blue, Don't hold your head so low That you can't see the sky Mr. Blue, It ain't so long since you were flying high Mr. Blue, I told you that I love you Please believe me
You're looking at it wrong my friend. Rejoice knowing you had a show that can make you feel this sadness. It means that it made you feel beautiful when it was here, so it's a beautiful sadness what you're feeling. Carry on my friend.
I think this is a beautiful way that Bojack Horseman's creators said "goodbye" to us... :c P. S. I never thought that I would feel like this with the show
“I think there are people that help you become the person that you end up being, and you can be greatful for them even if they were never meant to be in your life forever.” just like bojack horseman. ill miss this series, ill miss every single cast.
i liked their friendship and i liked that the show decided to end itself on a bittersweet note. if you think about it, a lot of the show revolved around the fact that diane and bojack came together in the first place to work on bojack's book and how that book kinda kickstarted a lot of things in bojack's life to start happening again and so begun the downward spiral when he gets everything that he ever wanted and having to confront the issues that he could just blatantly ignore before. in a way, the show began with diane and bojack and the show ended with them parting ways having moved on from that time in their lives when they were entangled together (even as just friends). and it's... sad and melancholic in a way i can't really describe. the reality that some friends aren't meant to spent a lifetime together is theoretically a "downer ending" but we've spent so much time with these characters that we, the audience, have to come to terms that they've grown to the point where they don't... need each other anymore. ...:( adult friendships are so hard to come by, it's really depressing to think they will both stop maintaining contact because it's really not that easy to find people who will stand by you at your worst times in life. diane did really stick through a lot for bojack and it's sad to know that the suicide attempt was the last straw for her in ending their friendship because she felt it was too much of a hostage situation. but i guess things like that just have consequences and all bojack can really do is keep living... and move on. idk if you have different thoughts about why diane wants to stop talking to bojack, feel free to reply. i know its part of the whole "moving on" thing and trying to move past that LA self who was self destructive and whatnot but it feels wasteful to stop maintaining contact altogether. they've been through a lot together and as much as diane doesn't like bojack because of certain aspects (know too much about each other, lol), i feel like their friendship was mutually positive at times. then again, maybe i'm just biased. when i think about those times they comfort each other in their lowest points in their lives, i just think back to bojack's eulogy where he describes his relationship with his family as "drowning together". in a lot of ways, i think the same way could be used to describe bojack and diane's friendship: they were "drowning together" and that's what made diane stick around for as long as she did. its the illusion of a good friendship disguising an unhealthy co-dependency...? fuck if i know man
BaconTheUber BaconTheUber i think she knew if she did not cut contact she would not be able to head into the next chapter of her life. I’m not sure if it was a complete hostage situation, but she knew she would fall into old patterns, unable to evolve. And you are right, adult friends are SO hard.
I feel like what makes their relationship so special and painful is that they could really see each other. Basically that's what their relationship was based on - on their awareness that they are drowning together. They both found this connection extremely valuable, cause they just identify with their trauma. But by the end, Diane learned that there are so many more nuances to her... and sometimes trauma just happens. And there is nothing romantic about it. It doesn't make you wiser or anything. It just fucks you up. And it doesn't matter how much you overthink it, it will never make sense. The only thing that would make sense is to move on and focus on all the other aspects of you. Whenever she is with Bojack, he still sees her as her trauma and she starts again seeing herself this way. But that's not OK anymore. She got to the point where that's unbearable, or at least unhealthy and unnecessary. It's painful cause it is what it is and there is nothing to be done. And in order to stop thinking about that part of them, they need to let go and lose someone who really sees them.
Running With Scissors brought me here years ago and now I'm back for Bojack Horseman. This song keeps landing in meaningful places for me. Much love to anyone feeling an overwhelming emotion or an overwhelming emptiness.
We should all realize this song was put at the finale for the fans. Were all depressed pieces of shit but this show wanted us to know they care. To all the creators of Bojack, thank you so much.
you felt like they cared more than most people do they did so much to help us, they could have had fire at the end they could have had him kill himself instead they throw out see you on the other side oh bojack no there is no other side this is it this while we are staring at a black void it makes you realize that death is not an escape it's just nothing
“I think there are people that help you become the person you end up being, and you can be grateful for them even if they were never meant to be in your life forever.”
This song is about an ex-boyfriend of the singer. In relation to Bojack, you could compare it to the relationship of Bojack and Dianne (Who is now leaving Bojack for Houston), and a general wrap-up of the series from her perspective. The music video reminds us through the motif of balloons (representing happiness) that even when others send it to us (As in the music video), we will wilfully let go of it. These parts are recorded in reverse so, in a meta-analysis, you could consider it an ongoing issue that no matter how many times the singer sends their happiness we (or their ex, specifically) will reject/be unable to accept happiness as a legitimate option. And so we begin again.
i just finished the song and this song will always have a very very special place in my heart. so healing and so heartbreaking. never knew a unreliable horse and socially awkward woman would make me feel so much. thank you for providing a friend. i really need a company right now
Here from Lofe's video. I usually listen to the "topic" version, but comments are off on it. You are Loved. I know it's difficult, but thank you for continuing to be here. You're so inspiring to so many people and you continue to save lives. Jesus Loves you and thank you for being so honest in a world that rarely is as open as you. I truly feel not alone.
Holy shit, for the entire Bojack series i'm been holding me for crying, but when that song came, i couldn't hold it anymore, it's sad that the show ended, but i'm happy about what i experienced with this hole thing
this has been one of the hardest goodbyes to one of the best shows of the past decade. i have been thoroughly exhausted by one sad horse - and i have emerged on the other end learning to be a better person every day.
Sometimes we don’t get to escape our past. Sometimes we don’t get to fix our mistakes. Sometimes... the only thing we can do is try to be better next time. And then eventually there is no next time, and that’s okay. Thank you Dianne, Mr. Peanutbutter, Princess Caroline, Jonah, and everybody else. And thank you Bojack Horseman.
"I think there are people that help you become the person that you end up being, and you can be grateful for them even if they were never meant to be in your life forever."
this is the only moment that made me cry (2nd to last episode): Bojack: *"so, how was your day?"* Diane: *"my day was good"* it was so caring and sincere that it hurt like a sledgehammer hitting the aluminium rim of my heart. i will never stop loving this show and i'm grateful it had its time in my life...so much so that i pity the poor me in another reality who never got to see it, if your still here. thanks! and i...wish you the best :)
I love the face she makes when she says "you will call it treason". I feel like it is Diane sort of laughing about Bojack's way of processing love and affection. He wants to be happy but he can't see love when it's right in front of him.
This comments section looks like a huge dysfunctional family I did not know I needed. Funny how a seemingly childish show did to us. Only it was not. It was the most adult thing I have watched. Cannot get more adult than this. P.S.- I'm tired of liking comments. It has been seven days and I cannot stop. Y'all please stop making this much sense while desperately trying not to.
I remember when i first started watching BoJack I was a bit bored at the beginning, but as i proceeded to next episodes i became somehow addicted to it (in good way) and now when i think about all stuff bojack did to people and to himself makes me sad, but st the same time happy What im trying to say is that bojack changed me and my perspective about showing emotions and understanding other people' feelings And im positive about its ending, it was so emotional i had tears in my eyes 💓
Watched the series finale of The Good Place, and then binged the final episodes of BoJack. Two very fitting finales, and a fitting song to finish my night.
I’m gonna miss Bojack Horseman. I related to him so much except for the fame obviously but other than that I relate to him too much which makes the season finale all the more sad for me. I loved it but it hurts all the more knowing that. That and that it is over now, truly sad.
-Sí, ¿qué puedo hacer? La vida es una mierda y luego te mueres. -A veces. A veces la vida es una mierda y sigues viviendo. -Si -Pero es una linda noche, ¿no? -Si. Muy linda. Gracias Bojack.
Just finished rewatching Bojack horseman this week. They nailed their choice of songs to put in their soundtrack. I can't listen to this song without getting teary eyed
I love how this video has been up since 2007 but all the comments are from 2020 and about this song's new (in 2020) inclusion on the Bojack Horseman soundtrack. Great show.
It confuses me that Catherine is not more popular here in the States like she is in Europe, particularly Great Britain. She's the total package, talented song writer, beautiful and one sexy voice. Stay the course Catherine, we love you!
6 years ago, running with scissors brought me here now 2020 Bojack and I really want to thank the moments I had watching it here and involving my friend to watch it because he understands what it’s like to be a shitty person but in the end we all are shitty and nothing changes. We just live our life. It was nice while it lasted
I'll admit, I'm here because of Bojack Horseman. But, I realized it's not just about the series, its also about the song that tells the story of him. Bojack being Mr. Blue. Basically, "flyin high" meant the time when he was having the best time of his life- Herb, the show, the life, and admiration for him people gave that he always asked from his parents. But, in the end you just have yourself around to make you okay. No woman, no friend, or even a parent is there to be with you in the end of everything. After his rehab, he made Diane promise something, and when she failed to fulfill it just because she was in Chicago and Bojack was intoxicated because he got depressed again, she got mad because she realized he made her feel that wherever she is, he still needs her and she must consider that in every choice she makes since she cares for him, so she had a hard time trusting herself again to be where she is without hurting someone she cared for. But, Bojack realized he's already okay. He should be okay. And he must be okay, even if he's alone. That's the lesson of Bojack Horseman: No matter how bitchy life if to you, you gotta live it. You make mistakes and learn from them. You get drunk then sober. You hurt people, push them away but sometimes they're still there for you. It's good in the start, until you live life and realize what you're truly made for. You gotta survive. You gotta be okay. Even if it meant you must do everything alone. Because, you'll have no one but yourself. To blame, to love, and to care for.
Rem Henshaw I watched the movie and I was absolutely sure that it was Regina Spektor as well. The movie was really good. And the OST is really good too.
This is how the writers, directors, animators and all who participated in the creation of Bojack tell us that the show is over. They show us how the 2 characters that suffered the most and changed ended. Music gives that atmosphere of melancholy and joy. And as the same episode says, "It was nice while it lasted." Thanks for joining us Bojack. We will MISS YOU.
