Catholic Priest and Baptist Pastor Face Off! 🥊 // Catholic in America 

I totally understand as a Baptist longing for a fuller Christian experience; sometimes I find it a bit too stripped down. I find myself drawn to the Anglican Church (continuing Anglican; not the liberal Episcopal Church). I find myself drawn to the beauty of the liturgy, the observance of the Christian calendar, etc. But, I also find beauty in a conservative Baptist church. I find myself comfortable with both.

@@davidluciemable3778don’t rely on emotion that’s where many go wrong

Oppposing views yes but one is right and the other is not

@@user-zn1bw6qz6q ah, but can we really say with absolute certainty?

It was nice and charitable but I also find that not only does the Baptist pastor speaks like this, but also most Protestants and sadly in return, when we say our part, they feel comfortable to call us out and tell us the “correct interpretation” as if it is fact and also not noticing they come from a tradition also. Only thing is… theirs started in the 1500 and ours nearly 200 years ago.

Catholic is Greek for universal. It appears in Acts 9:31, it's actually in original Greek text that you find it spelled as "Catholic".

Yes. Catholics are Christians in unity with the church that Jesus founded and subject to its authority. Baptists are one type of Christian who reject the church that Jesus founded and its authority. They believe in a Bible but not the authority that made its table of contents. They believe the Bible is enough even though the Bible never makes that claim and in fact denies it. Thus they are left with nothing but private interpretation and that is why Protestants have splintered into hundreds of groups. Rebellion begets rebellion.

As a Baptist; I agree with you 100%. If you genuinely repent, the Lord will always forgive you. It breaks my heart that his mother said that.

@@davidluciemable3778 Please tell me that is not a teaching that God will forgive someone so many times before they are destined for hell? Hoping that was something his mother said as a scare tactic. Thanks!

This video is doing exactly that. 😊 This video appeals to Catholic and Protestant viewers. There's a natural curiosity to see who "wins" or if things will get heated up. It's a fantastic way to help Catholics and Protestants understand the viewpoints and beliefs of the other. At this point- 200 people have watched. Someone out there knows the Catholic faith more clearly. We won't convert the world with force or by overwhelming them with apologetics or zeal. What is a bold strategy? Playing on curiosity, pleasantly surprising people with charitable discussion, building a bridge in the community, and repairing Protestant misconceptions of the Catholic faith that have been passed down for generations. Trust must come first if we wish to bring our brethren home.

The one true church sure likes abusing kids

We could talk about the idea that Mary is the co-redemptrix, which of course is really a blasphemous concept. We could talk about the idea that God is a tough guy and if anybody wants grace out of God, it’s only Jesus who could get it from Him. But you can’t expect to go to Jesus, because He’s pretty tough himself, so you need to go to Mary because nobody can resist his mother. So she’ll talk to Him, and He’ll talk to the Father, and Mary will get you what you need, or some saint. We could talk about a lot of those things, concepts of Purgatory, concepts of the sinlessness of Mary. A lot of things about Catholic theology that we could speak about, most notably their erroneous doctrine of justification which cuts people off from the kingdom of God.

@@tlk4826 true

Niki just read the Bible and you will leave the Catholic Church. I belonged to St Dominic's until into my late 40's. Never learned anything about the Catholic Church while being a member, I served as an alter boy until 15 years old, and attended catechism as a child. I never learned the Gospel or any Biblical truths, until I read the Bible at age 47. After reading the Bible I realized, that the Catholic Church had led me away from Biblical truths. After reading the Bible I began to research a learn all I could about the Catholic Church. The Catholic Church has such a horrible history, and are more interested in their traditions than the salvation of their Church. If you read the Bible you will leave the Catholic Church. Here is an example of what the Church teaches and believes, This comes from the Council of Trent Decree Concerning Justification Canon 9. If anyone says that the sinner is justified by faith alone, meaning that nothing else is required to cooperate in order to obtain the grace of justification, and that it is not in any way necessary that he be prepared and disposed by the action of his own will, let him be anathema. He is what the Word of God says. Ephesians 2:89 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. So do you follow The Word of God, or the writings of the Catholic Church?

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This one caught me off guard. 😅😅😅

Taylor Marshall is a desenter against pipe Francis and is not a good catholic

Thanks for leaving a comment. “As the Bible says, I am already saved (Rom. 8:24, Eph. 2:5-8), but I’m also being saved (1 Cor. 1:18, 2 Cor. 2:15, Phil. 2:12), and I have the hope that I will be saved (Rom. 5:9-10, 1 Cor. 3:12-15). Like the apostle Paul I am working out my salvation in fear and trembling (Phil. 2:12), with hopeful confidence in the promises of Christ (Rom. 5:2, 2 Tim. 2:11-13).”

@@SaintDominicMedia Yes and all of those have a context. Paul was sure of his salvation as we can be. Eternal life is a free gift. Once we are saved as Dr. Taylor said, eph 2:10 tells us we have work to do but not for our salvation but for fruit. Thanks for responding.

@@ContendingEarnestly Here are two articles that outline what Catholics believe about salvation and justification: www.catholic.com/encyclopedia/salvation www.catholic.com/qa/difference-between-catholic-and-protestant-views-on-justification-and-sanctification

I agree. So much was left out. The discussion served his purpose I guess and it was a healthy nice discussion, but I wanted to learn more by having them flush out and defend their ideas on these topics.

​@@TaylorL3why do you want to see that ? Are you searching for answers and hoping their defenses of one position or another will shore up your own doubt?

It is never about us; it is always about Jesus and His Church and that includes ceremony and traditions.

Remember when Jesus said: “ how would YOU like me to come worship me?” What makes you FEEL good ?” …..

Coming from the Baptist tradition, they went too far. After all, we worship the Lord God Almighty, He deserves our very best. I like a more formal form of worship. I would argue that anything less is not our best.

From east to west, a perfect offering shall be made. This means there must be a pattern followed by all concerned.

No, the early Church did it this way. It is not “unclean, cluttered, and unnecessary,” but rather acceptable to God who has through holy council directed the Church to worship in this way

Great comment/question. Here's what we believe: www.catholic.com/tract/call-no-man-father

@@SaintDominicMedia So in reading the Catholic view on the word father it seemed to me that the concept outlined in the Bible is such that “father” refers to a deep, close and personal relationship of spiritual guidance, love and deep care for between both the individuals in the relationship. Particularly, the way it is used in the Bible in the Old and New Testament suggests a deep responsibility the “father” has for those under his charge. Is that the role - or at least is supposed to be the role - of the modern Catholic priest here in America? Are they really supposed to have a deep relationship of care and love towards the folks who call them “father”? In the Bible it seems “father” went far beyond simply the recitation of religious aphorisms but towards actions of love and care for the whole person. Is that what the Catholic Church has in mind about priests - if not in action but at least in theory? Thanks.

@@gfujigo This article should give you good insight: www.catholic.com/tract/call-no-man-father

We could talk about the idea that Mary is the co-redemptrix, which of course is really a blasphemous concept. We could talk about the idea that God is a tough guy and if anybody wants grace out of God, it’s only Jesus who could get it from Him. But you can’t expect to go to Jesus, because He’s pretty tough himself, so you need to go to Mary because nobody can resist his mother. So she’ll talk to Him, and He’ll talk to the Father, and Mary will get you what you need, or some saint. We could talk about a lot of those things, concepts of Purgatory, concepts of the sinlessness of Mary. A lot of things about Catholic theology that we could speak about, most notably their erroneous doctrine of justification which cuts people off from the kingdom of God.

@@tlk4826 Why you did not respond to the points I raised, i.e. about priesthood? When a person works as a missionary then he brings grace of salvation to others through his missionary works. While grace comes from God through Christ we (NOT only Mary or Catholic Saints) can become a channel or mediator for grace. Scripture refers us as co-worker or fellow workers (1 Cor. 3:9, Greek sunergoi).

@@tlk4826 This my response on your charge that we believe in erroneous doctrine of justification. Scripture says God saves us or we are saved by grace through faith (Eph. 2:8) and through sanctification (2 Thes. 2:13). Salvation is a process, not just one time event or once saved always saved. If salvation is a process, then so is justification or how we are right with God. The Reformers' teaching that faith alone justifies us (sola fide) has no scriptural basis. The phrase "justified by faith" appears four times in NT (Rom. 3:28, 5:1, Gal. 2:16, 3:24). NT was written in Greek and the one in Rom. 3:28 is in Greek passive present tense while the rest are in Greek passive aorist tense. Both present and aorist tenses do NOT indicate a completed justification by faith. If Scripture teaches faith-alone justification, then the Holy Spirit would inspire Paul to write the phrase "justified by faith" in Greek passive perfect tense. The Reformers taught that through faith alone justification we get Christ' righteousness imputed on or counted on us, while all our sins (past, present AND FUTURE) are imputed on or counted on Christ who bore them on the cross. We are not made righteous but are only declared righteous based on alien righteousness of Christ - we remain sinner at the same time. That is why followers of the Reformers say that we are saved solely by what Christ did on the cross (Latin solus Christus). Imputation makes purgatory obsolete as it adds what Christ already did on the cross. However Scripture denies double imputation when it says in Ezek. 18:20: "the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon himself and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon himself." Scripture denies that we can be both righteous and sinner at the same time in Ezek. 33:12: "the righteous shall not be able to live by his righteousness when he sins". Catholics, on the other hand, believe that through justification we are made righteous through Christ (Rom. 5:19). We lose righteousness through sinning as stated in Ezek. 33:12 cited above. Scripture says there are deadly and non-deadly sins (1 John 5:16-17) and full grown sins bring death (James 1:15). Under imputation concept of the Reformers what those verses say become meaningless as all our sins are counted on Christ. Moved and enabled by grace we repent and have our sins washed away or forgiven to regain our righteous state back. Faith is counted as righteousness (Rom. 4:3) and to do what is right makes us righteous (1 John 3:7). Faith is counted for righteousness to Abraham (Gen. 15:6) but what is counted (the same Hebrew verb as in Gen. 15:6) to Phinehas for righteousness in Psalms 106:31 is not faith but what he did. Our ability both to have faith, to do what is right and to repent comes from and is only possible by grace through Christ as apart from Him we can do nothing (John 15:5). Why being made righteous is essential? Scripture says it is righteousness that delivers from death (Prov. 10:2) and Jesus said in Mat. 25:46 that the righteous shall go to eternal life. Catholics believe that we are saved by what Christ did on the cross and by what He and/or God do in us, that is we are transformed by grace (NOT by our own effort) from our unrighteous state to righteous one. Who is preaching the true Gospel?

​@@justfromcatholic There is only one Mediator and it's Christ. We do use Brothers in Church, Saints and Mary to intercede for us in prayer. Just like Protestants use there fellow church participants for prayer . Which later say we only go straight to God

​@tlk4826 a big essay to illuminate you have no idea what you're talking about! 😂 L

Yeah. Baptists and Catholics are both Christians. If you believe in the nicene creed; you’re Christian in doctrine.

@@davidluciemable3778no if you’re baptized properly you’re a Christian

there is no difference , they are one in the same

I would say the Baptists are an evolved church - the Catholic Church remained the same, the Anglicans split from Catholics during the English reformation, and Baptists came from separatists from the Anglican Church. We all have the same root, and we’re all one Universal Church. Different provinces of the same Kingdom.

Catholics love to party! Not in the way you are thinking, but in moderation to remind ourselves of the glory to come.

I definitely enjoy a nice cigar and glass of whiskey with family at home.

What's wrong with a pint and a stogie? Did Jesus not turn water to wine for people to celebrate? Or did He make the wine then condom the people for drinking what He provided ?

Catholics are not Puritans… God forbid. It was always technicolor, wine, tobacco good food … with the idea that everything should be in moderation and we are not supposed to be alcoholics or indulge in gluttony but to enjoy the good things of the earth and beauty and art and know the feast days and the days to fast. To enjoy colors and not be somber like the Puritans. That is a false piety. As Teresa of Avila said, “Save us from dour faced saints, O Lord.”

Enjoy the creation on earth by moderation. In heaven, there is no beer....😂😂 But don't do evil things.

Brother, anyone can perform a valid Baptism as long as they use the correct form and matter

@@thomasj51 In case of emergency, anyone can administer the sacrament of baptism, even by an atheist. That's the sanctifying authority delegated by the priests. Jesus Christ had delegated his authority to his disciples. His disciples delegated it to their successors. These successors delegated to anyone to baptise in case of emergency. In normal circumstances, only valid priests can baptise with sanctifying authority.

@@justthink8952 Simply not true. If you're baptized in a protestant tradition and enter into RCIA, you do not have to be rebaptized. See CCC 1284, where it says "in the case of necessity" and not in the case of "emergency."

@@Chris-xk9rt Would you kindly define the spirit behind "necessity" for administering of baptism? Edit: necessity with reference to CCC 1284

@@justthink8952 There are a variety of means of necessity for baptism, chiefly for salvation. But the most common is the necessary incorporation into their respective Christian community.

Catholic Church has priests through the Apostolic succession. Priests have teaching authority, governing authority and sanctifying authority. The Pope is like the chief priest in Judaism. Priests sanctifies baptism during the ritual of water baptism where a person is born into the family of God. The priest performs the ritual and God blesses the baptised person making him become a child of God. This is what we call born again. It is like circumcision whereby a person becomes an Israelite.

@@SaintlySaavy I think you mean you don’t consider baptist* christian

Thanks for leaving a comment. Catholicism has the fullness of faith. It is the one true church established by Christ. Not only are the teachings of the church derived from scripture, but the church put together the bible. Do you have a specific question about Catholic teaching?

@@SaintDominicMedia You do not follow Mat 23-9, why is that?

@@SaintDominicMedia Why do you think the CC put together the Bible, when you don't believe in it...Ephesians 2:8-9

@@tlk4826 Good question. Catholics follow everything in the bible. Here is what we believe about "calling no man father": www.catholic.com/tract/call-no-man-fatherHere is the answer: www.catholic.com/tract/call-no-man-father

@@tlk4826 Also, a great question. We believe the bible is the inspired word of God. Here is an answer to your question regarding faith and works: www.catholic.com/magazine/print-edition/faith-and-works

You do know that the Catholic church compiled the bible you so love.

@@SaintDominicMedia who taught you that crock. The Old Testament was compiled before the Catholic Church was even thought of.

@@SaintDominicMedia The Holy Spirt,not man compiled the Bible. What you have stated is typical of the Catholic Church deception.

@@SaintDominicMedia i also see you don’t have the courage to sign your name to what you stated. St Dominic Media 😂

@@timsullivan9135 True, but the Bible is made up of more than the OT.

On a scale of 1 to 10, how convinced are you that your are 100% correct? What would it take to convince you otherwise?

@@SaintDominicMedia I am open to reason together in the scriptures. I have never had a Roman Catholic try to witness to me as to why they believe what they believe. I came out of a false religion of 27 and I have also spent hours studying Roman Catholic books.

Can you give a comprehensive definition of faith in faith alone for salvation? From your definition, I believe 90% of your misconceptions can be clarified. The rest 10% we can discuss. Let's stick to this point in our discussion. After that, we can move to the next issue of your choice. You may notice that God's inspired words are not limited to Bible alone. God inspired the Apostles and others too. Therefore, we cannot discount oral tradition. The Catholic Church was established by Christ with Peter as the leader on earth. In the New Testament Bible, the preachings of most of the Apostles are not recorded but we can't say they were not inspired. Even the lengthy oral preachings of Paul was not recorded. God could also inspire men to do things like how the rituals of baptism has to be done, how bread and wine is to be celebrated..... Hence, God's inspiration is not limited to Bible alone. The NT Bible treated as scripture comes from the Catholic human tradition. No one had received revelation on the list of NT books to be treated as scripture. No book claimed itself as scripture except the book of Revelation. Their authors also did not claim their writings are scripture. Hence NT books of the Bible considered as scripture comes from human tradition. Praying in the name of the Trinity also comes from human tradition. Even going to Church on Sunday is a human tradition. Sunday dedicated as holy day is not mentioned in the Bible. Yet, in most part of the world, it is kept as a non working day. Could this also be inspired by God?

James 2:14-26. James, the brother of Jesus just shot down your argument. Not sure what Bible you are reading, but it sounds like the CPV....Cherry Picker version. And the author of the Bible is not even an author...since it was written by many authors INSPIRED by God. Also, Jesus (who is God...Holy Trinity) never wrote a thing we know of. And who assembled the books of the Bible? All Christians share 27 books of the NT. Why 27? Did the Bible say 27? Or was it humans inspired by God, affirmed through Sacred Tradition.

So you were Catholic. Jesus only left one Truth, one Church and One Authority. Jesus did not leave a menu of options at all. All Christians were Catholic for 1,500. Disobedience sprouted the Protestant religions with their disobedience, the fruit is thousands a churches, halls, temples that all say only the bible is the authority. If only the bible was the authority there would only be one church, so why are there thousands of Protestant denominations? Because of all the different interpretations and no authority to discern what is the Truth. Remember, there can only be One Truth. That is where the Holy Spirit is guiding the True Church left by Jesus. One Jesus is in only One Church: 1) Jesus is in the Sacrament of Reconciliation through the priests. Only one Church has the apostolic succession given by Jesus to forgive sins through the Apostles: Priest do this In Persona Christi The Truth: The Catholic Church. ( John 20) 2) Jesus is in truly in the Eucharist in the Body, Blood, Soul and Divinity in the Consecrated Bread and Wine. Only through Apostolic and properly ordained priest can this happen. Also in Persona Christi. The Truth: The Catholic Church ( John 6, the hundreds a Eucharistic miracles that have taken place and the thousands upon thousands of private revelations with hundreds of saints). How many miracles do you need to see? Many smaller personal miracles in the millions like mine where I asked God if I am clean from reconciliation please give me a small sing. I got three signs in like 5 minutes. One was a very bright flash of a door, the next was a dove flying casting a shadow on a part of the church and a strong gust of wind where there is typically no wind in that part of the Church at all. Plus a pain in my heart like a piercing by a small sword as I am praying the rosary. All many times understanding as I am reading the bible. Plus the many Marian apparitions and countless medical healing at Marian Apparirion Sites and millions of conversions at Marian apparitions. Including the conversion on 9 or 10 millions aztecs because of the apparition of Our Lady of Guafalupe. 3) Lastly, the Sacrament of Holy Orders. Why do you think only Catholic Priest are able to Exorcize demons. I think there are only a few cases of exorcising by Protestant pastors and those could be mentally disturbed patients. Because Catholic Priests do have to discern and evaluate whether an actual demonic possesion exists. There are 3 signs of actual demonic posessions: 1) superhuman strength, 2) talking in languages where the victim does not know then and 3) aversion to holy consecrated and blessed items. Some Protestant pastors have been able to exorcise minor deamons but again they are untrained to discern real posessions. Plus the exorcists has to be in a state of grace. ( Holy orders are in several letters in the background in the bible verses, as it is apostolic succession... passing the authority through the bishops and tradition).

Prots : I have the Catholic Bible and I am the pope.