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Oh, you should be so ashamed of yourself. Prophesy is unknown outside of fiction. If you were looking through job applications, you would put the prophets in the circular file. Your cult-faith depends on indoctrination of children with prophesy nonsense. Incompetence is your God. That is how you pretend to have faith & pray, knowing all the time, nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital. Oh, you of little faith. You can't expect mountains to move in obedience to your commands. From You don't know what to say, because there is not much you can say for your shame. Jesus Christ has been failing to do the task for 2000 years. Shame on you, & your God. Your cult depends on indoctrination of children with illiterate nonsense. My comment is clear, straight, fact. From You ignore the fact, not all of us can pretend prophesy & God exist. That is why Jesus Christ says, "Think not I come with peace, but sword". It is amusing to hear the profound arrogance of someone knowing of God, as if He were known outside of fiction. The believer & the literate are separated by the vocabulary of fiction: Blasphemy, God, faith, prayer, prophet, scripture etc. Matthew 17:20 He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.” I like asking believers how they can possibly think their faith is respectable, given Jesus said faith is worthless, since you can't expect obedience when ordering mountains to move? Freud wrote, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy". "Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall". What is The Catholic faith? Organized crime, indoctrinating children with a fantasyland vocabulary? When men are free of religious notions they write, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy." "My sheep hear My voice" is the mindset of slavery. Once free of it, there are no suggestions we all travel better by having one foot in a stranger's fantasyland or Garden of Eden. A mind free of religious text is not tortured by pretending Divinity made Mormons so Christians would know how Jews feel, having pasted their books on to them both. Those looking for the sign of a resurrection, are a vile, "Wicked Generation" seeking signs, led by "wolves in sheep's clothing". "The only sign is that of Jonah"; a believer murdered by other believers. Chained to the slavery of faith, they write: "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13 One must be insanely arrogant to suggest knowing something of a God. It is by boldness, Moses became the world's worst navigator, by having one foot in some fantasyland. There is a fine line between fishing & standing on the shore, looking like an idiot. Fail to get the Jews to buy it for 2000 years & they should know who their Messiah is. Jesus is a fake, to immortalize the war against the Jews. Jesus Christ is crucified for all time in literature & the subjects of Rome are illiterate. Freud wrote, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy" & the joke is in the scriptures. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13 An improvement on your God & faith; would outlaw indoctrination & abuse of the vocabulary of fiction on children. CREATING CHRIST - Official Documentary
Logic is useful, necessary even but it is, in some ways, self refuting. If it is to be trusted then it begs the question; using logic to prove logic is circular reasoning. Again this is not to doscredit reason, merely point to a need for something else and it seems that is the point alluded to by Bishop Barron, namely that faith is merely useful but necessary.
Even if we have no faith it is God's faith within that will sustain us, because He cannot DENY Himself. It says something about who we truly are. We live and have our BE IN G(od), as is the natural world, in Him. Franciscan Orthopraxy rather than religious Orthodoxy has done much for me to love God/Jesus more dearly, enabling God's peace and rest. And the next life to come? Here Eastern Orthodoxy has a better understanding of it. APOKATASTASIS! Certainly a more beautiful Gospel and a more loving merciful God that Protestant Fundamentalism would have us believe.
Oh, you should be so ashamed of yourself. Prophesy is unknown outside of fiction. If you were looking through job applications, you would put the prophets in the circular file. Your cult-faith depends on indoctrination of children with prophesy nonsense. Incompetence is your God. That is how you pretend to have faith & pray, knowing all the time, nothing fails like prayers in a children's hospital. Oh, you of little faith. You can't expect mountains to move in obedience to your commands. From You don't know what to say, because there is not much you can say for your shame. Jesus Christ has been failing to do the task for 2000 years. Shame on you, & your God. Your cult depends on indoctrination of children with illiterate nonsense. My comment is clear, straight, fact. From You ignore the fact, not all of us can pretend prophesy & God exist. That is why Jesus Christ says, "Think not I come with peace, but sword". It is amusing to hear the profound arrogance of someone knowing of God, as if He were known outside of fiction. The believer & the literate are separated by the vocabulary of fiction: Blasphemy, God, faith, prayer, prophet, scripture etc. Matthew 17:20 He replied, “Because you have so little faith. Truly I tell you, if you have faith as small as a mustard seed, you can say to this mountain, ‘Move from here to there,’ and it will move. Nothing will be impossible for you.” I like asking believers how they can possibly think their faith is respectable, given Jesus said faith is worthless, since you can't expect obedience when ordering mountains to move? Freud wrote, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy". "Now they know how many holes it takes to fill the Albert Hall". What is The Catholic faith? Organized crime, indoctrinating children with a fantasyland vocabulary? When men are free of religious notions they write, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy." "My sheep hear My voice" is the mindset of slavery. Once free of it, there are no suggestions we all travel better by having one foot in a stranger's fantasyland or Garden of Eden. A mind free of religious text is not tortured by pretending Divinity made Mormons so Christians would know how Jews feel, having pasted their books on to them both. Those looking for the sign of a resurrection, are a vile, "Wicked Generation" seeking signs, led by "wolves in sheep's clothing". "The only sign is that of Jonah"; a believer murdered by other believers. Chained to the slavery of faith, they write: "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is everyone that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13 One must be insanely arrogant to suggest knowing something of a God. It is by boldness, Moses became the world's worst navigator, by having one foot in some fantasyland. There is a fine line between fishing & standing on the shore, looking like an idiot. Fail to get the Jews to buy it for 2000 years & they should know who their Messiah is. Jesus is a fake, to immortalize the war against the Jews. Jesus Christ is crucified for all time in literature & the subjects of Rome are illiterate. Freud wrote, "The antidote to Christianity is literacy" & the joke is in the scriptures. "Christ hath redeemed us from the curse of the law, being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:" Galatians 3:13 An improvement on your God & faith; would outlaw indoctrination & abuse of the vocabulary of fiction on children. CREATING CHRIST - Official Documentary
"perfectly explains" is not in uncertainty belief as the keeping of the inseparability and the qualitative equality of thinking justice and having faith mercy (Jn 8:11).
2 men in their head (Herod) having a shot at it. Totally devoid of the point. Change the word God to Love then actually feel it again and be at peace,… that is if you can handle the real love feeling in your own heart (Jesus) that’s how you remember the Kingdom of Heaven which is there now. Not in the talking about it. Seek only love and do not let theology delay you. Talking is delaying maneuver. All this stories have to only help you to connect to the live you are. And love is something you feel and give to have only just to give it more till forever.
to colski..., How is one aware that one is feeling? Or that one is thinking? I believe that "feeling" and thinking are inseparable and qualitatively equal as only able to be kept in uncertainty of belief. Is not love the keeping in uncertainty of belief of the inseparability and qualitative equality of thinking justice and having faith mercy feeling as at RSV John 8:11: "Has no one condemned you? ... Neither do I condemn you", as mercy, and "go, and do not sin again" as justice?
A segment from 'Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within'... My new understandings of what many call 'God -The Holy Spirit' - resulting from some of the extraordinary ongoing after-effects relating to my NDE. during September 1970.. Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what some scientists are now referring to as the unified field of consciousnesses. In other words, it’s the essence of all existence and non-existence - the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the actual creator of everything that exists now, ever existed in the past, or will exist in the future - right down to the minutest particles of dust - each being an individual ripple or wave. The big difference between chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of inner enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves. That’s because chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo allows us to tap directly into our enlightened state by way of this self-produced sound vibration. ‘Who or What Is God?’ If we compare the concept of God being a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to the teachings of Nichiren, it makes more sense to me that the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people perceive to be God, is the fantastic state of enlightenment that exists within each of us. Some say that God is an entity that’s beyond physical matter - I think that the vast amount of information continuously being conveyed via electromagnetic waves in today’s world gives us proof of how an invisible state of God could indeed exist. For example, it’s now widely known that specific data relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects - including an instant global awareness of something or a mass emotional reaction. It’s also common knowledge that these invisible waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars - none of which is possible without a receiver to decode the information that’s being transmitted. Without the receiver, the data would remain impotent. In a very similar way, we need to have our own ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our own life, all other life and what everything else in existence is. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach the core of our enlightenment and keep it switched on. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what scientists now refer to as the unified field of consciousnesses. To break it down - Myoho represents the Law of manifestation and latency (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. For example, the state of Myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists - including our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them - our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re dormant - our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma - and more importantly, our enlightenment. The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes evident to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory - whenever we experience or express our emotions - or whenever a good or bad cause manifests as an effect from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it merely means that it’s come out of the state of Myo (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing. The second law - Renge - Ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect, governs and controls the functions of Myoho - these two laws of Myoho and Renge, not only function together simultaneously but also underlies all spiritual and physical existence. The final and third part of the tri-combination - Kyo, is the Law that allows Myoho to integrate with Renge - or vice versa. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects all Life and matter - as well as the past, present and future. It’s also sometimes termed the Universal Law of Communication - perhaps it could even be compared with the string theory that many scientists now suspect exists. Just as the cells in our body, our thoughts, feelings and everything else is continually fluctuating within us - all that exists in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux - constantly controlled by these three fundamental laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of Myo and ho in a single moment than it would ever be possible to calculate or describe. And it doesn’t matter how big or small, famous or trivial anything or anyone may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past, exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of the Laws ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ - the basis of the four fundamental forces, and if they didn’t function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. That’s because all forms of existence, including the seasons, day, night, birth, death and so on, are moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation - rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two fundamental states of Myo and ho in absolute accordance with Renge - and by way of Kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn under the workings of what the combination ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ represents. Nam, or Namu - which mean the same thing, are vibrational passwords or keys that allow us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’. On a more personal level, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives - as well as the environment from moment to moment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is spinning, and chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for a minimum of, let’s say, ten minutes daily to start with, any of us can experience actual proof of its positive effects in our lives - even if it only makes us feel good on the inside, there will be a definite positive effect. That’s because we’re able to pierce through the thickest layers of our karma and activate our inherent Buddha Nature (our enlightened state). By so doing, we’re then able to bring forth the wisdom and good fortune that we need to challenge, overcome and change our adverse circumstances - turn them into positive ones - or manifest and gain even greater fulfilment in our daily lives from our accumulated good karma. This also allows us to bring forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that’s preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we indeed are - regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexuality. We’re also able to see and understand our circumstances and the environment far more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. As I’ve already mentioned, everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect - the ‘actual-proof-strength’ resulting from chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo always depends on our determination, sincerity and dedication. For example, the levels of difference could be compared to making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, producing a great song, and so on. Something else that’s very important to always respect and acknowledge is that the Law (or if you prefer God) is in everyone and everything. NB: There are frightening and disturbing sounds, and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It’s the emotional result of any noise or sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day, we are producing a sound vibration that’s the password to our true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things - such as your fears and desires etc. The best way to get the desired result when chanting is not to view things conventionally - rather than reaching out to an external source, we need to reach into our own lives and bring our needs and desires to fruition from within - including the good fortune and strength to achieve any help that we may need. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo also reaches out externally and draws us towards, or draws towards us, what we need to make us happy from our environment. For example, it helps us to be in the right place at the right time - to make better choices and decisions and so forth. We need to think of it as a seed within us that we’re watering and bringing sunshine to for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s also important to understand that everything we need in life, including the answer to every question and the potential to achieve every dream, already exists within us.
Maybe. But let’s not minimize the enormous leap that is required to get from rational insight about the universe to an embrace of religious dogma that declares itself revealed. I can easily see god in nature while rejecting the Trinity, incarnation, vicarious death, etc. In my view, religion is a language that humans, in their own limited way, speak as they attempt to communicate the unfathomable. It is compelling because it seeks to answer the age-old question, “ Why?”
@@anthonyfowler2623 We can lob Bible verses back and forth all night. Let’s try Isaiah 1:18 “Come now, let us reason together.” I’m pretty sure approaching as a child is a treatise on humility, not blind adherence.
to SknappCFA, I believe (by definition in uncertainty asking how and why) that "rational insight" thinking and "religious dogma" having faith are inseparable and qualitatively equal keeping of which in uncertainty is belief. This belief, as by definition in uncertainty otherwise it is knowing, is only possible in consenting to be joined in a consecrated marriage, celibate or male female, as by Mary's fiat(s) as in both: "let it be to me" (RSV Lk 1:38) and "Joseph ... took his wife" (Mt 1:24). Bishop Barron reveals he is not consenting to be joined in a consecrated celibate (or male female) marriage by using reason to argue that having faith is a consequence of reasoning: "the far side of reason". This is not in uncertainty belief but as consequentialism it is a purporting presuming "knowing good and evil", the temptation in RSV Genesis 3:5. It is instructive to review how Pope Francis' consent as a Jesuit order religious as keeping of three vows: poverty, chastity, obedience, in uncertainty of his belief to be joined in a consecrated celibate marriage is dealing with this issue since his election on 13 March 2013, in particular on 17 June 2021 in it: (a) ensuring its procreation role gifts in the case of handling of charity donations by Cardinal Becciu and nine other Vatican state citizens/employees (convicted in Pope Francis' Vatican state criminal court of embezzlement on 18 December 2023 after their criminal indictments for this offence on 17 June 2021), (b) simultaneously insuring its need of union of its identity in the case of the Italian state "Zan" anti-homophobia bill (defeated on 27 October 2021 after a protest note simultaneously on 17 June 2021 from Pope Francis' Vatican state Secretariat of State against this bill as an unacceptable risk of fraud).
I believe that St Francis of Isisi approach to understanding the mystery of Life/God was better than the certainty of Religious Dogma. Franciscan Richard Rohr validated much what my own experience was revealing. It helped me move on to a more Spiritual walk loving God/Jesus more. But I stress without dishonouring my early Christian Fundamentalist beginnings in mid life. It's a journey with the H.S. leading convicting and revealing. So good so good!
Uh, Bishop, respectfully, and not to assume that i am smarter or more religious than you, I refer you, as a fellow seeker of truth about God myself, to a recent discovery that you might wish to explore or investigate, the current video titled, Conversations with God," in the same channel, an audiobook produced by Neale Donald Walsch, whose actual conversation with today's God and how it all started which I am sure you might find both amusing and entertaining.The voice of God in this video is alternately played by actor, Ed Asner, as male God and Ms. Ellen Burstyn as female God, to establish the fact God has no gender but will use either to send a message. Dont be surprised to hear that today,'s God was never the God of Moses in the Old Testament which shows God as being vengeful, jealous, envious or in the New Testament with the same ugly character traits as declared by Jesus or by the writer who put these words in his mouth as saying, Further, that today's God affirms us as his spirit children of the same divine stuff and nature and not made of clay as is written in Genesis, authored by Moses.
Christians, regardless of how educated they are, just love John 3:16. God sending His "only son" to die so your sins can be forgiven. I have always thought it's one of the most absurd verses in the New Testament. Mostly because it puts limits on God. How many sons could God have if He wanted? Could God forgive with a contrite heart and repentance as He did in the Hebrew Bible? I think Jesus was the solution, to a problem that never existed!
to scout2469, if God is defined as 'in uncertainty the keeping of the inseparability and qualitative equality of the three persons of the Trinity', this keeping by definition has limits outside of which are separation and inequality.
Jesus established only One Church. He gave the Key of His Kingdom to a trusted friend, Peter. “What ever lose on earth shall be loose in heaven & whatever bind on earth shall be bound in heaven. This established entity was a historical church with tradition & biblical roots whose name was coined, thanks to Wekipedia! “The word catholic (derived via Late Latin catholicus, from the ancient Greek adjective καθολικός (katholikos) 'universal')[3][4] comes from the Greek phrase καθόλου (katholou) 'on the whole, according to the whole, in general', and is a combination of the Greek words κατά (kata) 'about' and ὅλος (holos) 'whole'.[5][6] The first known use of "Catholic" was by the church father Saint Ignatius of Antioch in his Letter to the Smyrnaeans (circa 110 AD).[7]”. Was Jesus Christ a Catholic? Not all founders of things were named after them. Example, Mitsubishi cars. Was Yataro Iwasaki the founder, a “mitsubishian”? If we follow your logic! Of course not, he was a Japanese!
Dear brothers and sisters, not everyone is save by God. Don’t give what is holy to dogs and throw your pearls to pigs. If someone reject you just walk away peacefully, we are not hard selling religion to others. Spend time on those who is willing to know and given respect.
