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Makes it worse when the guy doing seems to be his arch-enemy who killed his friend

"Hey Wayne, you get what you f*cking deserve!"

True

Well up to this point Batman was very hateful towards the Joker after everything he’s done. By this time Joker had already shot Barbara, tormented Jim Gordon, killed Jason Todd, and killed Sarah Essen. Bruce witnessing the sight of his childhood friend Thomas Elliot’s lifeless body after being murdered with the Joker standing over his body was Bruce’s breaking point. Bruce didn’t care whether Joker was innocent or not all the trauma Joker has put him through came flooding back. Bruce feared if he didn’t kill Joker at this very moment it will only be a matter of time until one day he finds Selina murdered by the Joker.

@@The_Platinum_Realist Oooohhhh Kinky. But Babs was not even crippled in this movie.

Big of

Worst part is he’s not even supposed to be talking about jason bc the new 52 movies erase him and tim. Fuck you DC

Has Joker met Damian? Knowing Damian, he would definitely murder the Joker if he knew about what he did.

@@kentinson1670 Damian: My bad, my sword poked him. *shrugs* Bruce and Dick: *facepalm*

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And then it was to tell a bar joke. That made it worse.

I was scared as fu🤬 too

I kind of feel bad for him

@Leonardo Cesana the way he said BATMAN STOP, was really sad since you don’t hear joker say things like that.

@@ellegorojo7944 in the moment yea same

Saito Daemon if the joker said he didn’t do something he is 100% telling the truth. He’s pure evil and insane but he does not take credibility for other’s work. It’s his twisted way of saying he has integrity. He’s beaten the crap out of Harley a few times for actually capturing Batman just because he wasn’t the one to actually do it. If he ever wants to kill Bats or just ruin his life for fun he’ll make sure at least most of the work was done by him and it’s something that he came up with himself

@@adammahmood29 yeah didn't he though Harley out the window because she tide batman up and put him over piranhas in the animated series

The Joker is even the profile example of this "Not me this time" on TV trope.

@@adammahmood29 it still astounds me there are still people in this world who think Harley and joker are relationship goals lol

@@fawnieee in the old comics, they used to have a very healthy relationship

Dude would've ran right back and finish the job this time.

I don’t get it why

@@rn387 Joker killed Jason Todd, the second Robin.

yea bats would have finished him off right there and then if he heard that

Angel With The Fiery Sword My favorite robin, the red hood

Like the clown said once "Where's the fun in that?"

Yeah, but he wanted it to be for a thing he actually did

Like Luigi

@@edwardjacobus6986 ah, I see, you are a man of culture as well

@Shakur Wright Agreed

Especially since he’s actually *TELLING* Batman to stop, when has the Joker *EVER* told Batman to stop beating him, he’s only egged him on further proof he didn’t do it

why so serious?

Ikr

I mean to be fair she was created in the 90s though

Am I the only one that hates that jester costume?

And here I am wondering how old that comment makes these characters.

@@JingleJangle256 Well Harley was first created/added to the Batman animated series and the comics in 1992/1993. And today is 2022, which at least means Harley has been around 30 to 29 years.

Guess he's heard that one

One kid walks into a crowbar

I thought he was telling Batman to stop but he was really just trying to tell him a joke while he was getting his ass beat at the same time 😂😂

@@jerriustate9638 he is the punchline to the joke is, you would have thought the second one would have ducked The bar being the no killing rule, jokers guy one, Batman is guy 2

Cpt. Scorpion “And it wasn’t funny the first time.”

Then who killed the guy? Actually who is the guy who died? And why the Joker was there?

marko calderon I mean you gotta watch the movie to find out. Comic and movie are different unfortunately.

marko calderon from what I know, I’m sure that the dead guy is Batman’s best friend and he was killed by another villain named hush, joker just happened to be there at the wrong time and Batman assumes it was him who did the murder.

Since I dont read comic just watched the original batman cartoons and movies, isnt it a thing that when asked directly, or doesnt seem like his joke, the Joker doesnt lie.

@@Hongriki dont be an asshole, just say who killed him dude

We all wish he would

@@gavinthenobelassassin8923 Speak for yourself. A HUGE part of what makes Batman so interesting is the Joker. If you kill the Joker, a mistake that the Arkham video games series made, the story becomes less interesting.

​@@james_ford86it's bad writing

​@@james_ford86 If you think Joker is the only thing that makes Batman interesting then I'm sorry but you aren't really a Batman fan to begin with. Batman has many layers of interesting ideologies and themes and Joker is just one thing that makes him interesting, it isn't the whole reason Batman is well Batman.

@@KauriRU-vidAdventure Reading comprehension isn't your strong suit, is it? Show me where, in my comment, I said that Joker was the ONLY or WHOLE reason Batman was.. well.. Batman? I said Joker was a HUGE part of why Batman is so interesting. That is a true statement and nothing you say can change that. That doesn't mean there aren't other things that make Batman interesting. It does, however, mean that if you killed off Joker, the overall story would suffer as a result and not be AS INTERESTING. I recommend you go back to school and take a remedial reading class. You know, the kind that let you wear your helmet, water wings, and bring your bucket of crayons so you have something for lunch.

She’s broken, but not heartless. Not like the joker is

@@gavinthenobelassassin8923 unlike him she actually cares about her lackis, in her own twisted way. I'm always happy for her newest versions when she's with ivy.

Or her doctorate side needed satisfaction

she usually hangs out the henchmen so not too unusual

I mean she apologized after shooting him, that’s already better than what Joker would’ve done

Indeed

señorita cabello me too

He's innocent of THIS crime. Lol sounds much more okay.

@Jeff Pryce He doesn't deserve sympathy ( unless there's a tiny bit of sanity locked in there screaming as he watches his insane persona act) but he does deserve our praise. Like you said, he's a compelling and we'll written character. And because he's fictional, it's okay to like him. Because liking him doesn't mean liking him as a person, but rather as an important character adding tension and drama in a story. Let's look at Vader, Vader is awesome but if I existed in the Starwars Verse, I would be the first to take a steamer on his grave.

@Jeff Pryce I mean to be fair, Killing the Joker would be the most sympathetic thing you could do to him. He wants someone to kill him because he wants people to be as broken and messed up as him. By not killing him you are proving that you can be better than him. IN a way Joker is somewhat of a martyr, he is willing to die with a smile on his face for what he believes that anyone can be corrupted. Not killing him would technically be the most apathetic thing you could do to him.

Batman probably trained him

He probably called Batman when he ran away from Harley.

Both Batman and Bruce were trained by Bateman, in exchange for a Dorsia invitation.

I know i sound like an idiot but maybe they're the same person. Just think about it when Bruce Wayne is gone Batman appear out out of nowhere

@@afif5496 Nahh, I don't know. Bruce seems too rich to do it himself.

If batman kills the joker the no. of killers remain the same. But not the no. of victims.

@@God_Jupiter which is why you don't stop at one

If i lived im gotham i would just be like “*sigh, just another day in gotham”

I’d jump down and say “Hey bats can you act like I knocked you out so *I* can kill him and go to jail? We need Batman and all but I kinda don’t need the joker.”

Kinda rude

He wasn't telling him to stop. He was trying to say, "Stop me if you've heard this one.. " Turns out Batman heard that one lol

Jay Rocket I like how Batman paused then after he said it he threw him

Cause he wants batman to kill him

He wants Batman to break the barrier, the rule of not to kill, that’s what he strifes for out of him, but luckily he didn’t.

Chief or Chef?

in many incarnations hes a masochist, he actually enjoys it.

Well hes had enough practice

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that first punch, you can tell he put his weight into it.

Anything but true dude, I hate that logic

Cops really should just shoot to kill repeat offenders Be easier that way

While true, what the hell is up with the justice system in Gotham? I mean while it makes sense to kinda be like "come on Batman, just kill him already in order to prevent more innocent civilians to fall victim to the Joker", at least it kind of makes sense that Batman doesn't kill in order for him to avoid completely losing it. However, the judge who has probably a multitude of evidence pointing to the Joker's genocidal behaviours couldn't have sentenced him to death like I don't know, immediately?

@@kurryman Depend if there's a death sentence in Gotham

@@sirgentlebread7302 oh, how unfortunate for basically the most twisted city in America

That's sort of the point. Batman is meant to be an incorruptible symbol, but no man is truly incorruptible. Thus, Bruce needs friends to pull him back when he's about to go too far. It's the only way to keep Batman incorruptible while allowing Bruce to be a flawed human being.

@@Tantalus010 Yeah a human who's been flawed & scarred for life because of the murder of his parents right in front of him as a kid in that alley.

@@Tantalus010 that's why the joker does what he does he wants batman to kill him to prove that anyone can be corrupted

@Shane Douglas and he would've done it!

So... none of your kids, mattered enough for you to do what you were just doing? Just a question?

true :D :D

To true

He did say "strip him" something is going down

Hsu Jet boi that’s from injustice

Planet_kind151 Mk11 gamer Yep

And Earth2

Exactly. Gotham would've been happy, even the other criminals would have given to the police fund that year in huge amounts lol

I can imagine,Penguin,Two-face,Gordon and other cops and criminals having a conga line and celebrating wit a huge party with a giant sign above saying "Joker is dead 🥳🥳🥳" and Gotham setting off more fireworks that the 4th of July

I have always wondered why no one other than Batman ends up killing the Joker and I think I know why: cause if another no killing superhero or the Justice system killed him, he’d win. Let me explain, taking away everything involving Batman, Joker wants to force someone to cross the line or to make a grand show of his death, after all, in the Arkham games, his fear was of being forgotten, if they do what they usually do for the death sentence, then he wins because he either makes a hero break their code, or his death will be on a grand stage that won’t be forgotten, and the average civilian won’t pull the trigger either cause of the effect Batman has on the city, Joker is essentially in the perfect situation to win in the end because if he makes a hero break their code and kill him he wins, if the Justice system does their normal act for the death sentence he wins cause it won’t be forgotten, and the average citizen wants to follow Batman’s code due to the effect he has on the city, ensuring he never gets killed by a nobody

Scott Whaley that’s a great question

Tre' Roney I’m sure she wasn’t wearing it under her dress.🙄

Maybe she have a ring that pop out her suit like the flash :p

@@Hongriki highly unlikely probably snuck it in Bruce's car

She went into a phonebooth and started spinning around really fast. Then she suddenly had her costume and flew back into the build-....wait a minute

I mean shit if I had that kinda money, it's what I'd spend it on. College? Fuck that shit I'm going to learn Karate from some old dude in the mountains of Kyoto.

@@Jack-kn1mr oh hell yea tf who wouldn’t

@@Jack-kn1mr is it a soul of the dragon reference ?

@@13manuel84 I don't actually know what that is.

Boy toy*

As catwoman said “ your jester drag was over in the 90s now it’s just sad”

@@moonmojo7649 As I once said: "if only she didn't look nowadays like a pasty white emo/goth cheerleader who sneakily stole some cheap watercolor paint from art class to look edgier by smearing it on her pigtails." So yeah, agree to disagree; but hey, more power to you and I respect that... Still in disbelief to find someone who felt insulted and calling me names when I once said that "that's not my Harley Quinn."

Geo Leo classic Harley is cute but I love the progression of the new Harley she’s becoming her own character now. Her story is evolving and so is her design and I’m ok with that. Edgy but fits with modern look. Plus I bet it’s fun to draw her in her new attire.

@@moonmojo7649 Well, you already know my opinion and answer to the last part, but both of us agree about enjoying her personality-wise, and she's glorious in her new cartoon!

@Maori Boy Sure, I could accept her new appearance, if it didn't look as I've perfectly described it... It's just that it looks so plain and uninspiring.

I wonder if rico forgave her?

@@icecreamkitty2735 who wouldn't?

Mmm yes the ground is made out of ground

Her face when she said it

@@icecreamkitty2735 I’m pretty sure he’s dead, it looks like the bullet shoot through his chest

lol

Robin or robbing?

@@IchiRuki27 Robin Joker "killed" the second Robin so he's taunting Batman because he hasn't seen Damien yet

And who was it?, because the movie kinda centered about Catwoman somehow acting as Batman's sidekick the whole time.

@@MiloMondo Jason Todd Joker beat him with a Crowbar and blew him up

CapoFantasma97 there is no right way to a meme

Man, that ain't something the joker would say

But before he said kinky Gordon said that so it doesn’t work

Angel dust: hey that's my line

The comment i was looking for

Not really 💀

@@spazzout1k350 We’re always used to seeing Batman sticking by his number 1 rule. How was it “not really” terrifying to you?

@@zacharyfrierson6972 I guess it’s cuz joker is a murderer, so I’ve liked when Batman do this typa shit cuh😂

And it was an alleyway of all things hah ptsd at its finest

Yes we did. It's so sad that the people who made this movie throw shade at us for that. "Jester outfit was in the 90s" Yeah right, it's still million times better than dressing like a hooker.

Fuck yeah I miss that outfit! That and Joker being voice acted by Mark Hamill. -_-

@@georgehouliaras7239 better a free hooker than a abused jester since in the her new animated series, she changed her jester look to become her own person.

@@georgehouliaras7239 I totally agree with you Harley looks so much better with that jester outfit. but, you know, I got used to her wearing her own outfits even though it made her look like a hooker or stripper or whatever. she still look good in them but you know most of outfit were the jester costume. Sure, they don't look like what she wore in the 90's but they're similar. Like that outfit in Arkham City that wasn't exactly her jester costume but it's the goth version of it.

@@byzaurum6677 You mean that shitty new animated series that is written by a bunch of idiots who can't write a single line without cursing like high school edgelords? Yeah what an improvement this garbage is.

Batman needs Joker. Batman is one day from snapping and killing someone. If he kills the Joker he won’t stop killing.

@@angelacooper8973 let the victim's families decide the punishment of the criminal..

@@mahdiabderraouf5795 bro it's the fictional universe devoid of any logic

@@mahdiabderraouf5795 So yes let batman take the Blame for not wanting to become a monster Ah yes the hypocrisy if you think a corrupt twisted batman will stop at heroes/crimminals then you got it wrong

@@secoTheSonicFan ikr even for his first crime he’d be executed like how come he never gets executed? They could have just said he was going to get executed but he escaped

Killing joke was stand-alone it’s not connected to the New 52 Extended universe

@@triplef533 yeah.....people are getting the animated universes mixed up it's a bit annoying

Uh no, The killing joke came out in 1987 and hush in 2003, also comic wise Barbara was a teenager when she got shot and in The hush comic she is a grown adult.

All that Pudding she's been eating

Eobard Thrawn STOP😭😹

I think it's because she's got MPD , and Harley is Harleen's other personality.

It is depicted as an act sometimes. She’s not ‘thick’, she’s insane haha. I always like to think that she plays it up to be manipulative and surprise people. On the other hand, having delusions can make you appear to make ‘stupid’ decisions when you just can’t help having a certain thought process.

You can choose not to believe me but it’s true that people with severe personality disorders slightly change body shape. Even if only a little. Maybe Harley Quinn is just a bit thicker than Harleen quinzel

Warner should hire a japanese studio for their animated films like they used to. I think design was good but animation.... mmmm

Same

He's so thin and frail, it really drives home that Batman is beating the ever-loving tar out of him

i dont like how frail he is though. he looks like some sleezy thug instead of, y'know, joker.

@@buzzlightyearpfp7641 Agreed. He should be lean, not frail. Scott Snyder's Joker design is the best

To be honest, the art style is very different from Jim Lee’s work in my opinion. So I don’t think it even follows that too well.

I agree, and I found the weight of the ending a touch disappointing due to the change they decided to do...comic was better.

But I thought the Joker didn't actually kill this guy?

@@Goldenbane In the comics, he didn't. In the movie, they changed it so he did

Nic Name in the movie he didn’t either what are you talking about

Harley has enhancements given by ivy so technically Harley is more flexible

I thought her enhancement is just some antitoxin so she can withstand poison ivy poisonous environment that she created

Catwoman is more natural.

@@winsaner it enhanced her physicals too. She's able to survive lethal falls, like in the Return of the Joker flashback

Ventura the Ace ic thanks for the info, I didn’t know that.

“…hanged himself in his cell…”

basically just red hood

Basically the dark knight rises

Yeah yeah you can try Moron and have your corpse decorated with a smile News : "Some guy again found smiling dead after exposure to The Infamous Joker Toxin and recognised as the recent victim of the Joker last night"

Yes i would do the same

Well, a few lowly goons don't matter but killing the clown prince of crime. Kinda hard to keep that private.

@@thedemonking0013 if lowly goons don matter then batman and the code is just a hypocrite

It's his code and his duty as a cop. Cops can't shoot an unarmed person anyway.

140694 1994 Because he’s usually sent to Arkham Asylum for his crimes? (Due to being insane) Also, the lowly goons really don’t matter because they’re paid and they were involved, thus it wouldn’t matter if they were murdered or arrested, making me wonder why they would choose to work with a guy that has a chance to backstab them ever so easily versus a mob boss who’ll actually give you a decent paycheck, albeit even decide to keep you alive? *Cough* The Falcone Mafia, The Sionis Mafia, and The Penguin Mafia *Cough*

@@thatsoneinterestingpfpyago2521 Goons work for Joker to have a bigger reputation. Thugs care about money and fame. Even Joker himself values he's own reputation.

@Francisco Leyva Martin Might wanna work on your English a little.

Numero_Uno_ Loser He let’s Batman slide on the whole Vigilante thing, only because he doesn’t kill. Once you kill as a vigilante it’s easier and easier.

It would be more appropriate if a regular cope chose to kill the Joker during a fight against the clown and his grunts. Gotham is probably used of Death and casualties in military operations against criminals. What is dangerous with Batman breaking his code and killing the Joker is that there's a high possibility that once Batman experienced the taste of killing, he wouldn't be able to stop himself from killing criminals everytime after, even criminals that prove themselves able of redemption. In some comics and alternate universe, Harley Quinn, Poison Ivy and even the Riddler were on the right side at some point. Villains like Dr Freeze are just desperate humans being doing the wrong thing for understandable reasons. And let's not forget that Selina was a Buglar, and I remember a comic when Jason was sent to an alternate universe where Batman killed the Joker for what he did to Jason, and began killing all the bad guys that where in his way. In this universe Batman became an enemy of the Justice League who didn't agree with his methods, and we even see Bruce keeping trophies of the enemies he killed, one of those trophy was catwoman mask 😰. This is not a well known comic or even a great one, but the concept is very great and this is something that would definitely help Jason understand why Batman can never break his code. That's why Batman cannot kill, or Superman for that matter given what he became in Injustice. For Superman case, willingly killing someone with his powers would make him embrace his "godlike" self, something that would make him forget his humanity and his empathy towards fellow humans and heroes. As for Batman, he's a kind man deep inside, but the trauma of his parents deaths left him mentally unstable. He made this trauma his strength, but the fact remains that he's a very damaged person, and that killing someone would have more dire consequences on his psyche than for someone else. That's why the Joker chose Batman to be his greatest arch nemesis, he's aware of the dark beast Batman keeps in cage inside himself, and seeing that beast unleashed is something the Joker would love to witness, or would love the fact that his death from the bat's hand could unleash this beast. But this is my subjective opinion, I could be wrong about Bruce/Batman character. Some of Gotham inhabitants wouldn't hold it against the bat if he killed the Joker sure, but the rest would be terrified of the potential birth of a Batman freed from his moral leash

I don’t think ANYONE would snitch about Batman assisting in Jokers suicide

Üudjdj

We are Robin?

Which bring this question to life, how can Harley resist all those punches and kicks from her? How is she so agile? When did she learn to fight?

@@jancarlosmanon4556 well, the thing is that harle just uses her gymnast training to perform some improvised kicks and punches, unlike catwoman who actually has excelent combat skills plus her natural agility and reflexes

@@GG-rl2wg well her skills is just plot, isnt just a normal human? what s up with dc and these normal humans fighting along or against metahumans even on equal grounds?

@@jancarlosmanon4556 harley isn't a metahuman, she only get boosted by poison ivy to be more resistant than a normal human, she also is a very skilled gymnast and that's why she is very agile, but even with all that things harley isn't close to selina's fighting skills, selina has proved that she has the necesary to defeat batman with effort, also she is an extraordinary acrobat and a little bit better than harley pd: hablas español?

@@GG-rl2wg si pero nunca dije que Haley era una meta humana, dije que los de DC los ponen a ella, batman y a guason al nivel de los meta humanos

Hynden Walch is the most underrated Harley. She's second only to Arleen Sorkin, who basically WAS Harley, but she's never given enough opportunities to play her. Most people turn to Tara Strong instead. Incidentally, I recently learned that Strong's a racist cunt who got a black man fired from his job just because he was a Trump supporter, so that might sour my view of her Harley from now on.

@@tomnorton4277 ....I was just gonna mention that Tara's Harley always sounded too high-pitched and screechy...

Why it should be the same

A little the fuck hush isn’t even hush

No, I'd say it is one of the weakest.

Mask of the Phantasm is still the GOAT in my opinion

Horrible character design. This film was bad man!

...she always could? she's been superhuman for a while, she can take on batman 1v1 lol

@@brightestlight9462 cuz she rely on her enchantments in terms of fighting skills selina and bruce and beat her h2h

I mean I personally never understood how catwoman learned to fight so well either.

@@egekazkayas8968 Catwoman is a gymnast and was trained by the shadows and by shiva the best assassin on DC, also batman considers her one of the best female fighters. She is way better at fighting than Harley.

@@kittyprrtt same. at time Selina has mastered 12 different martial arts styles from years and years of training with some of the best like wilcat, the armless master or lady shiva just to mention a few ones, also she is an olympic level gymnast and acrobat with acrobatic skills that rivalizes the nightwing's

That was the only thing i didn't like about the this movie. I wish that he wasn't hush. But he did play a important role in the comics

Riddler was Hush's accomplice in the comic, but he WASN'T Hush. The Riddler being Hush was made for the movie.

@@fabienaguiton48 Yup agreed

Was probably to condense the movie. Easier to fuse two people together than waste time creating animation for two characters.

@@fabienaguiton48 yeah.....also Catwoman didn't killed anybody in the comic storyline she even tried to stop Batman from killing the Joker she didn't want Batman to break his non-killing code she had her own non-killing code too before she killed Black Mask

Thanks puddin 😘

It`s a double joke because he killed Jason Todd and Damian(Bruce`s biological son) stole and modified one of Jason`s old costumes,combining it with pieces from his own League of Assassins uniform.

Anarcha Media but jason and tim dont exist in this universe

In this universe we miss a lot of the Batman lore..Given how only Dick and Damian are the only ones of the bat family to be allowed on screen the emotion falls flat. Any rage against the Joker is less understandable since Jason has not been seen or let alone even mentioned. All this scene did is make Batman look crazy.

jason and tim arent canon and dont exist in this universe

345.Ganja how could they not? In the comic Jason does face off with Batman but makes Batman think that he is just Hush pretending to be Jason. Jason wanted to mess with Batman and see how he would react to seeing his ward return from the dead. Though if what you say is true then I guess Joker’s question to Gordon could be referring to how Dick Grayson left to become Nightwing

Bats*

Batsy batsy batsy HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Yup

@@kaprio551 Frank was about to shoot him in the crossover and even joker told Frank if he's really gonna do it until the self righteous bastard interferred.

I think petty much anyone given the chance will kill the Joker. Cops would push him down the stairs or have a "He Got a Gun!!!!" Moment.

Underworlddream Im surprised there hasnt been a storyline where a cop just straight up kills the Joker and pulls the “he had a gun” card. No one would blame the cop for it.

I doubt he would have. Bat fleck kills, sure, but only when it's more convenient in the moment to do so. He's not going to go out of his way to to have no criminal casualties.

Affleck Batman pulls out 2 modded 1911 pistols

Well The afterlife is real in the DC universe so you know if batman actually did kill the Joker one day he would probably just come back as a ghost or demon to make Batman's life a living hell LOL

Jason Drake Bat Fleck’s Joker killed Robin, in fact, both Harley and Joker did but Batman not only doesn’t kill them but actually saves Harley from drowning Even Killer Croc, who is a cannibal, is still alive

@@higaiwokeru which doesnt make sense at all in comparision to his nature in bvs killing with machine guns , branding criminals