Caving gone WRONG │The Cave of Death 

Let's ask that question once we know the toxicology results.

If they WERE'NT drunk when they did it then they had to have all been certifiable.

@Ben Henderson yes while being in the cave it’s dark no matter what time of day it is on the surface, however if you do this during the day while people are awake & out and about (haven’t finished video yet) the thought is getting help would be easier to come by.

@Ben Henderson exactly that’s wat I was thinking lol

Nit wits that's who.

Women have been pushing Men to do stupidly crazy shit from the beginning of humans, I’ve done it, you’ve done it, and we will do it again... and I have no idea why 🍺👍

😂

@ the drunken rebel... I could not have said it better, just stupidity all around.

Who’d have thought? The guy who said no way… and waited outside- …and waited and waited and waited.

The tragedy practically writes itself!!

@@j.griffin Saved his own life, no exaggeration!

That's peer pressure, unfortunately. Don't allow anyone to convince you to do something you aren't comfortable with.

We need his genes in the gene pool. He has the intelligence I would like to see in the future.

Beesechruger?!

I like literally cannot literally like can’t even literally smh like

Me too. It's one thing to visit a large cave with public access as part of a professionally supervised group to admire imaginatively lit rock formations, but squirming into cracks and tubes and shuffling through flooded sumps in pitch darkness is for me the 8th circle of Dante...

Eloquently put..Lol Straight up no bs. Lmao

There is no way anyone could have said it better

I agree, he already was memorialized and "resting." They just wanted to get him out of there so they can splunk in peace and not be reminded of how dangerous it is.

@@robyn_byrd or it could be because they dont want a skeletal remains in their back yard.

my thoughts exactly. So weird

I sleep well every night knowing I'll be exploring more and more lol

You should visit one that is set up for tourism with handrails, steps, lights and a guide. Caves can be very beautiful and awe-inspiring, don't let these stories make you think they are bad places.

so you're not really de la crazy?

I sleep well every night knowing how to safely explore them

I sleep well every night because I drink heavily just before bedtime.

Yep. Foolish. Very sad but still so foolish

**at night, too, smh

Wonder what the toxicology results revealed....

Very bad decisions

@@nathanielovaughn2145 My thoughts exactly.

dont go into caves

@@leiregyp5814 First link in video description: “If you want to get into caving…” 🤷🏻

@@luks6436 Sing MY statement! sounds awesome.

🎶 don't go into caaaaaaaves.....🎵🎶

@@luks6436 Fk it I'M singing it and it sounds GOOD !

There's plenty of caves you can enter with no real risk at all, especially those without water.

there's caves that have gift shops, railing everywhere and comfortable ceilings, you can easily walk around and not feel in danger. those are the best, learning and experiencing the nature without unnecessary danger

I am on the NEVER EVER team, buddy. I don't give a rat's behind how many railings and gift shops there may be. Screw this

I'd sooner not know, and they'd stayed out and lived...

I love the cougarettes.

what luck!

Am I the only one who thinks Spelunking sounds like something best done in private, a few times a week, mostly in the morning? From the safety of one's blankets.

You were the smarter not to, imo.

@@ahklys1321 The word, when enunciated, definitely has such attributes. Lol

yup, i would have in warm dry weather for sure, but not with ice water flowing over me... but then, i would have just found a way to lower his arse when i realized getting him up wasnt going to work, with the logic that, if water flows down there, it has to come out someplace.. worst case. we lower stuff to warm the fool up and feed the idiot and find a way to get them out from there.. this was human stupidity on display for all to see.. caves can be safe, or dangerous, some are just dangerous period, others.. well.. i got a buddy who was in a cave during an earthquake.. when they got outside.. the nearby city was heavily damaged... they had only seen small rocks fall during the shaking inside... (hard rock cave that had also been mined in some areas) i dont go into caves that are sketchy.. fuck that.. but i know a few up in my part of the country that are quite safe and, wonderful during hot summer days... old lava tubes... coming off mt adams.... also know a few up there great to swim in.... as in you are swimming in the mouth of long vertical shaft that a stream falls into and runs out of.. ;)

Espcially since the guy was already dead.

It makes some people feel better to make scapegoats out of those who didn't do anything wrong & aren't to blame for those who make poor choices.

I love how his cause of death was freezing and when they finally recovered him they cremated him.

@@toxihex876lol true

Good point!

Visiting the “Hole of Happiness“ violates YT’s community guidelines, I imagine.

🤣🤣😅😅😅😂😂

People being happy and having fun isn't news, I guess...

Ron Weasley over here

glory hole theme park

💯 but gotta venture that few regular folks even think of caving, much less get down and into them.

….they weren’t explorers though. They were “regular folks” 😂 if anything, the regular folks ruined it for the explorers

Well regular folks shouldnt be going into these places

The guy who didn’t enter, he laid over the exit to block it.

@@bonniebrindle8335 What makes you say that? just trolling, or what?

@@SatanenPerkele Amen! Water + darkness = DON'T GO IN, imo

It's a stupid activity

to a degree, alot of it is people who have no real experience and, well.. bad shit happens. i have been in many caves and the sketchiest shit that ever happened was one jackass jumping into water without a clue how deep it was.. i mean it was def gonna be deep enough to not get hurt from the jump but.... still... fuck sake... this situation, i wouldnt have gone into a stream of cold water, but if i was at the top, rather then try and pull his arse up.. i would lower his arse and hope he at least could get out of the stream of water, i kept wondering why they didnt just lower him knowing shit was fucked either way. anyway, i know people on my states rescue teams and, they say over 90% (from actual stats) of people they have had to rescue have been those with fuck all exp, didnt take anybody with exp with them, and went into caves or mines and got in trouble... more then once they went to rescue cavers whos families got worried only to find that.. everybody is fine and infact had found another entrance/exit to the caves/mines, and just lost track of time... it can happen... ask anybody whos been underground for an extended period.... keeping track of time becomes a "glad i have a watch" situation... as i have told anybody i knew who wanted to check out some caves, stick to safe ones, and go with somebody whos got genuine experience... and what use to be considered common sense... because, like mushroom picking, if you go with an idiot, you could very well endup dead... the worst rescue my friends have been on was actually a mixed team that was a govt project that took down some experienced people but alot of people who had never been underground more then the "ape caves" type stuff.. and yeah.. no deaths but a couple very close calls and alot of injuries, when you see that a cave was also used as a mine, do not touch the support wood, not till you got an experienced person looking the area over and giving the go-ahead... because fuck sake... a logging and mining operation actually got the team in with one of their lift copters, 2 cargo containers with equipment and people inside dropped almost ontop of the cave.. took them 3 days to get them all out... didnt make the news, but most dont, specially when nobody dies.. basic rules of going underground are not to go alone, not to go without people knowing where you will be and are going, always pay attention, even in safe tourist friendly caves.... you never know when somebody else may do or have done something stupid, i could list a bunch honestly but... personally i have heard far more stories about shit like this where, it was a bunch of idiots fucking up... honestly had they just lowered him... if anybody heard about this it would be a cautionary tale rather the tragic... this was human stupidity... and i have seen the same results from idiots doing things in civilization sadly.. we once found a body of somebody who vanished 2 months earlier..everybody even his fam thought he had just gone back to the home country without telling anybody...naa the fool climbed into an old funnel thing used to fill freight cars back in the 50s-70's, trying to open it up apparently.. couldnt get back out and was in crotch deep water that he had broken threw the layer of ice on.. nobody has any idea why he was in there trying to dump the water out.. but.. yeah.. we were told to move the yard engine around and get things setup so that equipment could be used for the first time in close to a decade and.. we found a still mostly frozen corps... he had to have done this at the end of the shift or people would have heard him trying to get help... also saw a foolish woman nearly die after trying to 'fix' something, falling into a funnel chute used for disposing of trash in a highrise rebuild, that had icey water flowing off the roof into it(part of why we had it setup was because it kept the water flowing outside not into the elevator shaft and basement that we had already had to pump out twice..)... she got VERY lucky somebody outside saw her lump clog the chute and they got her out and out of the icewater filled cloths.... she was moved to working at the office they didnt trust she wouldnt get herself or others hurt/killed after that one..

Tbf most of the rescuers in these circumstances are also cavers

Glad you made it

​@@yasminenazarine1629so am I ❤

I know, right? Why didn’t they go in the summer?

People underestimate how dangerous water and especially cold water is, all the time.

@@OldZLand Not when you’re supposedly an experienced caver you don’t. Also, this group knew the water was freezing as they had to come into contact with it way before Jim decided to go down the shaft. Also, abseiling/lowering yourself down any vertical surface that has water running down it, is a dangerous thing to do even in warm weather due to the water crashing down on you, stopping you from breathing properly and blinding you.

@@themonolith253 *especially* when you have high regard for you own abilities! That's why so many fishermen and boaters drown with no PFD, because they're "good swimmers". People assume they can handle situations they cant because of their level of experience.

It would probably help you understand if you stopped trying to apply your lucid logic of a stable mind to these thrill seekers. It's not about visiting locations, it's about flirting with danger and despair. They call it the "death wish" because to the average person with standard brain chemistry, observing the behavior from the outside, flirting with death and wanting to die are one and the same. We feel compelled to explain it by stupidity (hey, at least you didn't), but in doing so fail to appreciate its complexity and don't stop to think what we could learn about the human nature if instead we'd make an earnest attempt to assign meaning to such deviant behavior. They might have overexpression in genes that would have contributed to being a great explorer, a warrior, or that one guy who made it through a major crisis in a tightly-knit local community with his chin up, and carried everyone forward. Now there is no communality, everywhere is explored and charted out, they mostly live in environments where real immediate danger doesn't exist or is easily avoided, and they end up as a joke on the Internet instead.

Appreciate that, but agreed, these are tragic.

Same.

Plus, what makes anyone think your flashlight will work after swimming through water.

I’ve gone swimming in mountain streams in May, on Memorial Day, in the lovely State of Maine, and the water is usually so cold you don’t want to stay in for more than a few minutes if you don’t acclimate to it.

@@kalifogg6610 Groundwater is around 55° in middle band of US; 80 is comfortable swim, under 70 starts trouble breathing without a suit. An old article says the one girl was calling it cave of death because on a prior trip somebody almost passed out and started mild hypothermia afterwards. What I found interesting is snowmelt in summer Utah dropping rivers to 47, and people jumping in from hot air temps, going into cold water shock instantly and not resurfacing. So just submerging in that short tunnel can be enough even without the other factors - an involuntary gasp for air and that's it.

That's so insane to think someone actually held their breath for 25 minutes. 🤯

@@birdflipper I cannot even hold mine for 2 minutes. There must be some trick. Perhaps it's just a mental thing, and you don't need near as much oxygen as your brain tells you that you do. It is hard to fight your brain though, breathing can be manual for a time but the second you attempt to halt it your brain hits the panic button. Maybe the trick is to find some way to make your brain more accommodating and less likely to force you to breathe.

Brain also does that with your muscle strength. Brain limits you from using your full strength and damaging your muscles and tendons.

@@andrawusazimi8428 I just wonder how many brain cells die in that amount of time, especially with repeated practice. I would almost bet that he will at some point suffer consequences. Who knows, he might be taking years off his life. edit: Just noticed your profile pic. Are you from STL? I've lived in the lou most of my life. 👍

@@birdflipper ---- A search came up with 25. I had heard 5 (five), previously.

BAHAHA

You may have caves and crawlspace, but you can't deny you got the ballz to go in them and get it done, so kudos to you man, fr.

Holy fuck the over use of ellipsis's.

@@EmptyPeace ... yeah it's a bad habit.

He died doing what he loved: dying.

@@AcesnEights698 you are spot on! 😅

Well said. Or a sense of invincibility that's a mixed bag of risk/reward/chance.

Selfish to participate in a high risk activity and put others in danger of losing their own lives to go in and try and save them.

Ya, humans shouldn't get curious about the innards, the guts of the Earth. Death often guards these secrets I guess

Caves are awesome, most all of them have water someplace or another.

That’s not actually true. There’s only been 2 cave diving deaths in the last 50 years that were not due to a rule being broken. I’ve never heard of a caver dying who was following the rules, but I’m sure it’s happened a few times as well. All these stories are about fools without training or deliberately thinking they were above the guidelines that were created by the people who invented the sport. Most of us cavers are engineers, doctors and programmers. We tend to be rather quiet folk though, and many of the caving community isn’t on social media. I guess they don’t care how we are viewed, but I think it’s a shame so few people give it a try. So many caves are easy and safe. Obviously though the difficulty of each cave can vary drastically, so it’s important to stay within one’s limits. It’s a slow progression. My first couple caves were huge ones, no small spaces or anything. Not much wildlife besides the occasional cave cricket. It was a 4 mile walk it was really casual and easy. I guess the most risky thing would be falling and twisting an ankle or getting your ankle stuck and snapping a bone. It would be sort of a pain in the ass to carry an injured caver through the cave. Vertical caves obviously are a bit more tricky. I am not experienced enough to attempt a vertical cave but I have been attending training sessions and am signed up for some upcoming rope/cave courses that are taught by the fire station. And when I do finally go, I go with my local grotto so we usually have at least 8 people on every trip and usually a few of them are part of the search and rescue unit in our town. Same people that save dogs from wells and cats from trees. I am joining next year myself. Anyway, for anyone that got this far, go check out your local grotto! Just don’t be an idiot, and use common sense, and you’ll be fine.

I had this same question. How did the first person decide to dive in to a narrow water filled tunnel with no knowledge of where it ended or ability to turn around? Or maybe it was dry part of the time, and so they knew where it went, and then put up the rope later for when it did flood? Although that still sounds kinda insane, because how would anyone know whether the air was bad on the other side or not once it did flood? There's clearly something I'm just not getting here.

Blocking the caves protects the natural feature. As long as it's open for other people to go in and get stuck, then more and more of the cave gets damaged in trying to rescue them.

@@thelogicaldanger It doesn't exactly protect it since you are destroying part of it. They rarely damage a cave doing rescues.

Absolutely agree. I always tell kids to trust their gut, that if they have apprehensions, there is a reason.

@@nathanielovaughn2145 Exactly Right!

And they probably had been drinking too.

@@jase123111 yes I had thought the same thing which leads to impaired judgment. Not that my friends and I didn’t go out and do dumb things but this was off the charts 🤔😱

I can’t be peer pressured into going to the movies if I don’t want too let alone a dark cave. Is this a true story?

My trademark

Yep, play stupid games, win stupid prizes and I DONT want my tax payer money wasted on retrieving idiots

The most compelling reason is for the families' closure. But an important secondary reason is the environmental damage/hazard of human decomposition and decay left in a natural environment indefinitely

@@sugarsammy7209 He was an experienced cave diver and was someone’s son and loved one. I am confident the US would be wasting your tax dollars on more egregious things than returning a loved ones remains to their family. Your comment is gross.

@silverfoxeater I'm not talking about me or my taxes. I'm talking about people who think it is a good idea to risk their own lives for the sake of a dead object.

@@juliastewart741 What's gross is dying for no reason and retrieving a body is basically no reason.

I hear you about the caving but you should go ahead & try scuba, just stick to open water!

Wanna swap scuba diving for sky diving. Will sprinkle in some free falls in the ocean.

You dont really need to risk your life and squeeze through tight spaces when visiting a cave. There are beautiful big tourist caves that are very safe to visit and illuminated where you just walk through and admire its beauty.

@@bepowerification true that. I live in New Mexico, and there's many beautiful, accessable caves here. I keep wanting to go to Carlsbad Caverns again (it's been since I was a little kid)

You are so welcome!

Glad you clicked!! ❤️❤️

Forget about pounds, metric system all the way.

@@DecoyAUT " 'merica only country! 'merica best country! "

​@@DecoyAUT Let's abandon a useful and practical measurement system because someone on the interner thinks divisibility by 10 makes a more obtuse system better lmao. Go outside and actually try using the measurement systems. There's a reason inches are still used in construction and everywhere else outside a lab

a stone is 14 pounds. Simple.

@@maskettaman1488 Use a system that almost the whole world uses. No one needs two systems, there is no addded value just confusion and even accidents.

Nope normal people

Thank you! Stay tuned for bizarre death #8 (probably after my next video)

Thankyou Ryan. X