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CB650 Charging Rotor Test, Removal, & Install 

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@henerymag
@henerymag 11 лет назад
I did check the rotor and there was no reading at all. So glad I ordered one. Thanks to your instructions I got it off with the axle.
@henerymag
@henerymag 11 лет назад
I've got the manual now and it does a good job. Thanks for all your help and I'll continue to check out the excellent vid's you put out.
@muhammedalidenizli6067
@muhammedalidenizli6067 3 месяца назад
Kitapcığı bulamadım yardımcı olurmusunuz
@HTMR
@HTMR 11 лет назад
Yes, have fun & learn with it! Inexpensive? Depends on how much it needs.
@janstastny2496
@janstastny2496 3 года назад
Thanks for video, The idea with The axle saves my day.
@HTMR
@HTMR 11 лет назад
Cool. Make sure you test the regulator/rectifier. Sometimes once the rotor goes, it will take the reg/rec with it. I can upload the service manual to my site if you don't have it.
@henerymag
@henerymag 11 лет назад
Thanks I will. Had trouble getting a screw out and snapped off a brush, so in ordering a new set I went ahead and got a new rectifier/regulator. Should be pretty much new when I finish. A bit pricey but I'd like reliability and I'm not paying for labor.
@HTMR
@HTMR 11 лет назад
I don't have any vids or writeups on reg/rec. You'll need a multimeter. The manual does a good job explaining the procedure.
@HTMR
@HTMR 11 лет назад
Keyster makes good kits. Also check Randakks, however I think it is for 750's and up.
@johnlambert3273
@johnlambert3273 Год назад
The right way to use a digital ohmmeter on low ohms is to short the test leads together, note the reading and then subract that reading from the result. This will compensate for the resistance of the test leads.
@PappyfromtheKeys
@PappyfromtheKeys 3 года назад
Okay......where is the video showing the testing of the repaired charging system? I like your no nonsense approach to these videos. Well done.
@HTMR
@HTMR 11 лет назад
Definitely let me know how it turns out.
@golfkey1
@golfkey1 8 лет назад
When I went to put the cover on it was a little tight with the Stator fitting on the Rotor. Gave it a little tap with the mallet and she settled nicely. Before I replaced the Rotor i had no issues with the fuses, Now I'm wondering if I fried one of the other charging units.
@bronwenable
@bronwenable 12 лет назад
exactly what i needed thanks
@Choirboyjr11
@Choirboyjr11 10 лет назад
I like you videos man! keep it up!
@MarkusReese
@MarkusReese 10 лет назад
Awesome vid! Guess what I am probably going to be doing in next couple days...
@HTMR
@HTMR 10 лет назад
Thanks and good luck!
@henerymag
@henerymag 11 лет назад
Just picked up an '81 CB650. The seller had work done last year and the wrench at Honda said the stator needs replacing. I ordered the stator and the rotor figuring from what you showed the rotor would probably need replacing anyways, better to be safe than sorry I guess.
@HTMR
@HTMR 11 лет назад
You need to find out why it is not charging, otherwise it can get expensive and frustrating. You can inspect the rotor. The insulation usually deteriorates and it shorts out. You can check the rotor & stator with a multimeter. You can check the output of the alternator. Also, you can check the reg/rec unit.
@juntjoonunya9216
@juntjoonunya9216 4 года назад
Haha you think yours is dirty, I'll buy it! Looks like you keep your stuff clean and in top condition. I need a new one too, needed really.
@jasonramsdell
@jasonramsdell 10 лет назад
great video. after watching I got the job done in less than 30 min.
@HTMR
@HTMR 10 лет назад
Good job Jason. Is it charging again?
@jasonramsdell
@jasonramsdell 10 лет назад
MatthewMCRepair yes it is after 3 days of research, wire diagrams, and frustration trying one thing after another spending way more money than needed, I found this video now with a great relief its charging and I have a lot of back up parts if anything else goes. and the rear axel trick worked great. I have a 1982 cb750f I used it on
@HTMR
@HTMR 10 лет назад
Jason Ramsdell Great to hear. Electrical gremlins are tough.
@HTMR
@HTMR 11 лет назад
Bought a rewound one from ebay. New OEM ones are crazy expensinve!
@seventeenfeet
@seventeenfeet 3 года назад
how long did it last?
@juntjoonunya9216
@juntjoonunya9216 4 года назад
How easy should it be to pull the axle out? Book says you gotta do a lot of loosening of bolts related to the brake and chain tensioner. Was hoping you could just slip it out then back in
@HTMR
@HTMR 11 лет назад
Did you test the stator? They usually don't go bad. Congrats on the new bike!
@henerymag
@henerymag 11 лет назад
No I didn't. The bike is still at his house, I was going by what he told me. Do you think at least the rotor was a good idea? For sure it is not charging. Being in Canada most parts have to be ordered from the State's, so things are not cheap. But I do like the bike and my test ride showed it to be running very well. Thanks.
@henerymag
@henerymag 11 лет назад
I have no idea how to check the regulator. I did order the manual for the bike. If you could tell me how to check it though I would really appreciate it as I'd order one if it's bad. Still to cold here for riding anyways. Thanks for your help.
@henerymag
@henerymag 11 лет назад
Thank you.
@mesoccerboard
@mesoccerboard 2 года назад
The rear axle on my 1981 CB650 Custom does not fit the rotor threads. Still in search of 17mm x 1.5 bolt to get the rotor pull off of the crankshaft
@69stringibanez
@69stringibanez 11 лет назад
how much work is involved in removing the rear axle?
@jhoad89
@jhoad89 11 лет назад
looking for a new rotor myslef, seems changing it is easier than finding it. know any places? whered you get yours at?
@maxwellrichter5125
@maxwellrichter5125 Год назад
I can’t get the rotor bolt lose at all any tips? Tried everything
@HTMR
@HTMR 11 лет назад
Stators rarely go bad. Check resistance between each white wire leg...should be about .5ohms. White wires should not have continuity to ground.
@Jiklopmoo
@Jiklopmoo 10 лет назад
Hi MatthewMC, I'm working on the exact same bike and was wondering where you got the parts such as the carb boots and the charging rotor? Thanks Derek
@HTMR
@HTMR 10 лет назад
The rotor was purchased on ebay since cost was less. It was a rebuilt with core charge. The boots can be bought any place online that sells OEM honda parts.
@mattbrew11
@mattbrew11 11 лет назад
hi. I found a 1981 cb650C in a junkyard for $400. The guy says it runs. It has 18k on the odometer. I am wondering if this is a bike that's pretty good? Ive never owned a moto before and am pretty mechanically inclined BUT I've never worked on a bike or a carb before. Are these pretty cool bikes? Pretty inexpensive to fix up? thanks so much!
@MrJaycjr
@MrJaycjr 4 года назад
So did the charge after u worked on it?
@oscarcoreas3844
@oscarcoreas3844 8 лет назад
hey, first off, really nice video it helped alot, i have a question tho, when i test my rotor like you did im getting like 1.5 - 2 ohms, you said that its between 4.2 and 5 so does that mean that my rotor is done? im looking into it because my battery is not charging, so would that be my problem you think?
@HTMR
@HTMR 8 лет назад
Did you clean the slip rings before checking?
@oscarcoreas3844
@oscarcoreas3844 8 лет назад
+MatthewMCRepair i did not, i will do that and test again, something is off for sure, regulator isnt problem because thats been changed so im thinking stator or rotor
@HTMR
@HTMR 8 лет назад
Check out this troubleshooting chart from Motorbike Mondays: motorbikemondays.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/10/rte_troubleshooting_flow_chart.pdf
@CFKDW
@CFKDW 11 лет назад
can you link me to where you bought a new one?
@HTMR
@HTMR 12 лет назад
Hopefully it solves your charging problem.
@iviaverick52
@iviaverick52 6 лет назад
My rotor usually hovers around 3.9 and 4 ohms. I saw that you were getting about that on the new rotor. Would you say this is fine to use?
@HTMR
@HTMR 6 лет назад
Yes. Is the insulation/coating on windings in good shape?
@ricardojaracastillo8808
@ricardojaracastillo8808 7 месяцев назад
¿Dónde consigo guía de cadena de distribución? Tengo el motor RC03E
@lucfilm20
@lucfilm20 9 лет назад
I got the CB900F super sport I replaced rectifier, stator & flywheel kit even the brushes and still no go all the wrg is good at this point im stuck
@HTMR
@HTMR 9 лет назад
Luc Rancourt How are you testing the charging system? At idle and at a higher RPM?
@stephanmahler7304
@stephanmahler7304 10 лет назад
Hello Matthew MC, Im running good (4.6) on the Ohms interrings. but checking the the same ring ohms , i am getting 1.2 on both rings (consistent). Would this indicate a faulty rotor? Thanks
@HTMR
@HTMR 10 лет назад
You should get 0 ohms on the same ring. Lightly clean the surface and try again. This test really does not mean anything other than you have continuity on that ring.
@daliramon3846
@daliramon3846 8 лет назад
I have a problem with my 81 cb650. sometimes it will start up all day with no issues, but other days i will need to jump start it. some days its doesnt't start at all... just today it shut off on me at a red light. I just tested the battery and its all good??
@HTMR
@HTMR 8 лет назад
+Dali Ramon What are your symtopms when it does not start? Does it crank? Do you just hear a click sound? Be a little more descriptive.
@donovonlevan1306
@donovonlevan1306 8 лет назад
Wont hitting the rotor like that cause it to lose magnetism? Same as hitting the cover with a hammer or dropping the rotor all together?
@HTMR
@HTMR 8 лет назад
No.
@golfkey1
@golfkey1 8 лет назад
Any reason why after I changed the rotor my main fuse blew and the bike was dead. I put in a new fuse and it melted instantly.
@HTMR
@HTMR 8 лет назад
Not sure, but you do have a short somewhere.
@mattbrew11
@mattbrew11 11 лет назад
forgot to mention that I'd intend to clean it up and ride it but as I get used to it, chop the rear and turn it into a bobber style with mini ape hangers.
@dzg189
@dzg189 11 лет назад
cb750 nighthawk 1982 let me down on first day out on it
@muhammedalidenizli6067
@muhammedalidenizli6067 3 месяца назад
Selam bende 1982 model cb 650 var şarj yapmıyo yardımcı olabilirmisin
@11KAB11
@11KAB11 2 года назад
Clymers says .4-.5 ohms between slip rings
@jakepoole160
@jakepoole160 4 года назад
Is there anything else other than the rotor/stator or rectifier that’ll keep it from charging?
@HTMR
@HTMR 4 года назад
Sure, a bad battery. Also, a high power draw on a device that should only be on momentarily (brake lights etc..).
@jakepoole160
@jakepoole160 4 года назад
MatthewMCRepair so how about when I test the charging rotor like you did ,it just beeps and grounds out like I’m touching the 2 ends together( I apologize for all the questions I just can’t find a shop to touch it)
@aermotors
@aermotors 9 лет назад
Great video. What Stator is that you have there? It looks nice and heavy duty and not stock. Thanks.
@HTMR
@HTMR 9 лет назад
I have no idea. I assumed it was stock.
@aermotors
@aermotors 9 лет назад
Was doing some research and it's definitely an aftermarket one, that's good for you! Might get one myself. Looks like it's an Electrosport Industries: cl.ly/0x1m1I2e2m0V
@aermotors
@aermotors 9 лет назад
Actually that's a completely wrong image, that part #ESF901 is actually a rotor and not stator. Oh well. It's aftermarket.
@HTMR
@HTMR 9 лет назад
aermotorstudio Nice find. The "blue" part is a stator. The rotor is the part that spins. The stator "stays" in place.
@aermotors
@aermotors 9 лет назад
Yea I understand that. I ordered a new stator, rotor and reg/rect. Hope that will set me up right.
@HTMR
@HTMR 11 лет назад
Yes, nothing like being stranded with a dead battery.
@dirtydrew18
@dirtydrew18 11 лет назад
I may be one of the few that this trick (or the actual OEM puller for that matter) didnt work. I had to use the puller, a cutting torch, and persuasion with a hammer to get the damn rotor off.
@grzegorzhawrot1053
@grzegorzhawrot1053 6 лет назад
is it back axle from cb650?
@HTMR
@HTMR 6 лет назад
Yes
@soulchief1532
@soulchief1532 5 лет назад
would a bad rotor or stator cause the bike to stall after running for about 10-15 minutes and have issues starting while still hot? I have an 81 cb650 with this issue
@HTMR
@HTMR 5 лет назад
Does the battery die and unable to crank it over?
@soulchief1532
@soulchief1532 5 лет назад
@@HTMR yes, although once it is cooled down it regains enough voltage to start it again
@HTMR
@HTMR 5 лет назад
@@soulchief1532 Have you hooked a multimeter up to see if it is charging? But to answer your question, yes a bike will eventually die if charging system is not functioning.
@soulchief1532
@soulchief1532 5 лет назад
@@HTMR I did hook it up yesterday and it was charging fine at idle, it got up to about 14 volts when I started opening the throttle a little and getting it warm. Maintained about 13.1 after that. Then I shut it off and it dropped clear down to 12.1 and wouldn't start
@HTMR
@HTMR 5 лет назад
@@soulchief1532 I had a similiar situation on this bike. Turns out the rear brake switch was always "closed", so brake lights were on all the time (2 bulbs) and it killed the battery. So I would suggest pulling one fuse at a time and see if your problem goes away. There might be an electrical load that is not supposed to be on. This goes to show that stock charging system is marginal.
@losteroni
@losteroni 9 лет назад
my rotor went bad with no continuity brtween the rings . I bought a puller for 5 bucks went down to the junkyard and got an identical one from a cb900 for 20 bucks and never had a problem with it again .
@HTMR
@HTMR 9 лет назад
joseph bourdeau Good deal. There are no MC junkyards around where I live.
@claytonstill2385
@claytonstill2385 3 года назад
So if I have 0 ohms that means my rotor is toast?
@Kerring
@Kerring 3 года назад
Hello! I have a piece of shit '80 CB650 that just randomly started running on three and misfiring. New spark plugs didn't do a thing. Could this be the problem?
@drakeb6168
@drakeb6168 13 дней назад
Would check points or cdi boxes if you have the electrical point system. Then would check coils.
@HTMR
@HTMR 10 лет назад
Search ebay.
@HTMR
@HTMR 11 лет назад
If the bike still has a centerstand, not much at all.
@robertciganovic965
@robertciganovic965 6 лет назад
My rotor only shows 1,5 ohm. Does that meen its bad. The rectifier shows nothing
@HTMR
@HTMR 6 лет назад
Did you clean the slip rings? Same year make model?
@robertciganovic965
@robertciganovic965 6 лет назад
MatthewMCRepair well i sprayed some elecric cleaner on it. I will try and use some sandpaper. I only got 12 v on My battery at high rpm
@robertciganovic965
@robertciganovic965 6 лет назад
MatthewMCRepair and My stator shows 0,6 between the three yellow wires
@robertciganovic965
@robertciganovic965 5 лет назад
MatthewMCRepair yes i did and removed it. Still 1.5. I will buy a new. But ill probably wont find one here in sweden
@HTMR
@HTMR 11 лет назад
I hate when that happens.
@HTMR
@HTMR 11 лет назад
That sucks!
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