Celsius Made His Thermometer Upside Down 

Bill Nye, Neil Degrassi Tyson, Jimmy Neutron, Adam Savage, Mrs. Frizzle, Pickle Rick, and Michio Kaku could all get the same reaction I think. Hope you like what I did here. :D

Watch till the end when Michael pops his head up, says "but what IS temperature?" and destroys Derek's whole sense of reality

@@TheHearingDeaf2006 had me in the first half

Or is it?

@@TheHearingDeaf2006 🤔

What does the F stand for

@DahriusArt it's never that simple

@@kshitijbenedict8431 fuckboy

@@kshitijbenedict8431 fast

@@x_x5009 he is the CEO of respect

Cries in music theory

Probably is a psychological things tha TV make a majority of humans prefer ascending scales.

@@swampdonkey1567 No there are certain equation in thermodinamics that only work with certain scales and do not work with inverted scales (from before TV was invented)

I cringed at that one also. While getting rid of negatives is mathematically convenient (and I could see how some might object to negative temperatures as being counterintuitive) I would argue that using HIGHER temperatures for HOTTER things does seem to make more sense. I don't think it's just a learned bias that tells me it's wrong to think that the temperature inside a freezer is higher than the temperature inside an oven.

@Civilized Unicorn untrue, as a true American, i only work with Fahrenheit, and a -3000% thermal efficiency on an otto cycle seems perfectly fine to me.

It's a strange feeling when I see that Michael doesn't know everything. o_o Same feeling when I heard the pope saying "I don't know".

yeah i was thinking the same

That suck because I was about to file a patent for an upside down pencil :( what a shame.

Lemon Chief That's jokes

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Alcatraz Aronsson me too

I know right! Its like geek christmas!

This is the most exciting day of my life.

the magic of SCIENCE!!!

Sadly Pay Phones now have very boring lives.

Now we will all have to wait a very long time to see them again :(

michael was not taught. he was only held captive and forced to act dumb

@@spooktoberboi proof

I guess they didn't have fire back then.

@@Milesco No DuMbA** fIrE wAs CrEaTeD a LoNg TiMe AgO

@@Milesco thats right fire was invented in ancient greece in 1255 and first brought to sweden in 1817 after napoleons defeat.

Except when you’re making tea.

Not True any moar hahahahhahahahahhahahhahahaha

i just hope that now he doesn't turn into a super evil criminal. or a rapper.

If he raps about science, then I'm cool with that.

+Arturo Torres Sánchez nice hypothesis.

He does

He knows everything; he even knows that he isn't omniscient

It's Okay To Be Smart Hi!

lmao

r/Woosh

@Joseph Heron woosh

@Joseph Heron woooosh

Which is why we changed it :D

Not if you can account for the fact that water can boil and freeze simultaneously. If you set the boiling point at 0 than that is your starting point. Boiling is only an action and is no indicator of temperature. If anything the thermometer is more efficient as a barometer than anything else

@@CorgiCorner yup, water can boil with zero heat. Water in a vaccum as an example.

Back then thermal energy was considered a wierd and unlikely hypothesis. CRYO energy was the big thing every scientist was working to prove was real.

@@scout360pyroz cold isn't energy though, rather a lack of energy

I was gonna say that. I hear it all the time and my brain just doesn't process it different.

to be fair, most people these days just reffer to it as "C", plain and simple. "5 degree C" for example.

In places that use it most will just say degrees.

And your frame of reference is? It's clearly not actual studies, but "anecdotal evidence", meaning, what you hear. Which means we'd have to know *where* you hear this all the time.

It's reasonably common to hear people say centigrade in the UK. I'm sure no one will bother to do a study on it as that would be a complete waste of time.

But he didn't. It was the collection of scientists that did

*he did too

***** No. I said "tho" as in "though". It's an ironic abbreviation, and intentional.

I know, I corrected it to "too" as in he wasnt the only one that invented it :p

Title: "He didn't invent it" Second half of the video: "He kinda did but some jackass got it wrong"

Probably yes

Many, myself included, wish he hadn't...

+Robert Faber Why?

Juustomimmi Because then the US might be using the same unit for temperature as the civilised world.

reasons why I don't like Fahrenheit. I can never remember the boiling point of water in Fahrenheit. But I know it in Celsius. Why's freezing at 32F? the hell is 0 suppose to be? If it was to prevent negative numbers, it failed cause we get to -18F at the coldest where I live in.

Except 50 degrees community of scientists is not pleasant

@@UVHorizon except necroreplying to a 3 year old comment is not pleasant

@@Evercreeper It is. Also anything above 26 is not pleasant.

@@Evercreeper Wait its 3 years old???

@@sharoncastillo2411 look at the original comment “3 years ago”

Steel fuel can't melt jet memes

100 degrees cant melt steel beams

"You can tell how bad a person you are by how long after 9/11 you waited to masturbate. For me, it was between the first and second tower falling down." - Anders Celsius

+TeeCakes but chemtrails can.

+Doctapeppur mine... I was born 9 months exactly after 9/11 lol

Well, your collab you've just posted with It's Okay To Be Smart is pretty NOICE, too, if I may say so.

strange it's 23 hrs here in India

haaa its you

What the hell is NOICE?

+Keith Grove It's an alternate/exaggerated version of saying "nice".

The claim was that there's no _objective_ reason. "Convenience" is not an objective reason. That is purely _subjective preference_ on our part (and is highly dependent on _what you are actually doing_ with the numbers (there are many everyday applications which do _not_ require absolute temperature at all, and even theoretically some applications where an inverted scale might actually make calculations easier instead)).

@@foogod4237 that's funny - you pointed out that he said objective reasons, then brought up several subjective reasons to support your statement. When making serious engineering and scientific calculations in thermodynamics and fluid dynamics, there are long established formulae that depend on an ascending scale, and rearranging them for a descending scale would be ridiculously obtuse - they would make little sense without a great deal of puzzling study. Look at the first and second laws of thermodynamics sometime, and tell me they were laid out subjectively on an ascending temperature scale.

as well as hot=more volume=takes up more space in a mercury bulb thermometer. you would think that just pure convince would have been enough back then?

@@billyrussell7789 yes but that's not universally true. water is more dense than ice while certainly having more energy and a higher temperature

Nnay so far water is the only material we know that does that though, and for the temperature measuring systems used then it would have meant higher energy =less density

Also beacause we don't want nor need another counterintuitive convention like *shudders* charge convention

but it could have just been similar to gauges of metal wire where the larger the gauge, the smaller the wire. it's just something that is set and as long as it's consistent and can convey information effectively then it'd be ok.

nah KM/h did

Cheeky Kalium molemasses per hour

Myles Perrour

no that was actually Marx Avogadro, sorry.

No, Miles Prower (aka Tails) did.

giovanifm1984 We do here in the UK too.

Same in Spain.

A whole bunch used Degrees Centigrade and Celsius interchangeably,

Same in Portugal.

Even here in India.

We don't need the retarded SI units and what country doesn't use seconds and hours?

they're not retarded :( they make sense and are based off things that are logical.

Fish Styx No they don't. Imperial and US units are based on things that can be easily visualized. Metric isn't.

easily visualized but never consistent. that is why imperial is based on SI now.

They only use seconds, minutes and hours because it isn't metric ;p (well seconds are usually used metrically when downscaled but you know what I mean).

ºChristin*

*Community*

🌡Celcius

+DeltaGamer * °CommunityOfScientists

Oh, just call it Centigrade for Christin's sake!

how?

@@toanhien494 They don’t have schools where you’re from?

@@toanhien494 probably Murica

Yes

Yes

We all know there's only six degrees of Kevin.

Its 40 degrees Bob here

60000000 lukas

Carl would be his first name, we would call it Linneus

It's 43 degrees Joe

well thought.

xddddd

every time darek asks a question, i am somehow scared that the other person won't be able to answer it. Then i imagine myself in his place and i feel anxiety!

RIP Vsauce 2010 - 2016

Remember, he is not used to °C, but °F

+Kjetil he should be by now considering he lives in the UK

And Burma and Liberia

+Ian Robertson the three superpowers of the world hahaha

Haha, I rest my case!

Too bad it's not a natural temperature scale like Planck temperature. I mean, what kind of absurd scale is defined by a number as arbitrary as 273.16? It's just there because we're too stubborn to let go of our historical affinity for "1/100 the temperature difference between water freezing and boiling". Celcius is outdated, let's move on.

You mean Fahrenheit.

OH MY GOSH, ITS A SIGN OF THE APOCALYPSE!!!!!

STAGED MICHAEL KNOWS EVERYTHING BLARHGHGHAGHHG wow

obviously he is roleplaying. probably Michael taught that to him :P

Acting?

You do know there are lots of things Michael doesn't know, right? He is a curious person, and that is what makes the difference, he go out and finds out the answers to things he doesn't know. a lot of his video materials may be things he had no idea until he decided they are going to make a video about it.

Share=shame... I wounder when you'll be able to edit on mobile...

+Ola Justin you can if you view your comment in Google Plus. I Do.

yeah but no one uses google +

ANONYMOUS AUSTRALIA look at my previous comment.

Pablo Schoots you are no one tho :l

It wasn't until somewhere in the 80s that scientists made a point of why degree was inappropriate for Kelvin. I've gotten into several reddit arguments with (alleged) grad students who've claimed their PhD toting professors used "degrees Kelvin" not more than a few years ago.

@@Sohodollie Uniformity. Using your logic everything is a degree, one degree meter, one degree kg, one degree ampere and so on. When people define the metric system they want the uniformity, so either all were called degree, or no one is called degree. There's also argument about absolute 0, as celcius' 0 is an arbitrary 0, where 0 kelvin ( also on meter, kg, second, mol, cd, ampere) is basically the lowest value it can get, aka absolute zero ( though physicist and mathematician already theorized about negative temperature and negative mass)

bruh he was correct idot

@@Sohodollie look it up. You’ll be convinced it makes sense. The key is if you set zero at an arbitrary value. Zero meters, gram , kelvin, are not arbitrary. They mean nil, nada. When measuring degrees, zero means “at this arbitrary line”.

@@alvarorodriguez1592 I fully get it, but isn't angle degrees an exception to this? 0 degrees is precisely 0, null, 0 radians etc... it is not arbitrary.

I actually saw his name on a thermometer in Europe while I was in Germany. (the company name, not the temperature scale)

Spoiler warning: You are related to every human being, it's just a matter of degree in proximity. And if you share a last name that would probably bring you closer.

Magnus Ekström uh, you could be a very distant relative. and... we are all related so the fact that you share the same last name... makes you more likely to be more closely related.

Well, given how names propagate, (at least, in most cultures), if there IS a relation it's on the father's side. You can ignore all women in this, since they don't pass their names on to their children. For instance, I recently learnt that my grandmother's name was probably McClean originally, which hints at a cultural connection I hadn't expected at all. And that's only 2 generations. If you trace family names back you'll often find a common ancestor somewhere, but it's hard to say how many generations back it would be. I've personally only really been able to trace one side of my family, and I hit a dead end about 5 generations back in terms of information. There simply isn't anything to go on past that point. Plus, you get an ever increasing tree of ancestors, and that 5 generations is a single line, when it follows that across 5 generations you have at least 32 ancestors. When I can only uncover 1 of 32 family lines to 5 generations, and can't trace it back any further, it shows how complex it can get trying to decide who you are and are not related to. XD (I can't even manage to trace anything past 3 of my grandparents, so... Yeah...)

Look up Rømer and Reumer who made the scale that Celcius based his scales on, except for the dumb idea of turning it upside down. Rømer started with 7.5Rø for freezing and 60Rø for boiling. Reumer improved that by setting 0Re to freezing and 80Re to boiling. The centigrade scale was a small modifaction to the Reumer scale by making it 100 based, aka. centigrade.

Same here in Aus

Same in Spain, I still call them centigrade even if that's not accurate according to the video

same in southamerica, its centigrade, i dont know who is stupid aenough to confuse ''5 centigrados'' with ''5 grados'' in geometry...

In the US I've heard it, too

Which makes sense seeing as a 'cent(i)' is a one hundredth.

It depends on the context: they have the above-mentioned meaning when they're being used together, otherwise they're synonyms. Precisely! :D

And "Swedisch" is a German word for Swedish. You love the C, don't you? And why do you drop the capital S? Do they do that in Sverige? Or is this the general sloppiness of the entire wold?

@@voornaam3191 whoa chill

But Ze Germans Always Make Ze Virst Letter In Kapital In All Ze Wörds 🤔

@@voornaam3191 if you want to be pedantic, Schwedisch is the actual german word.

There was absolutely no reason for a German to copy a Swedish chemistry book since "Chemistry" and "Germany" were the same thing in those days.

That is honestly not a bad idea. I could see that work really intuitively.

I mean, is it hard to say "ninety-two"?

92, that's either really hot or really cold

Sucks to be colourblind and not know the temperature XD

Dakky Arthur lol xD

Hey Veritasium! Derek here

Lmao

That would be a start. It's still going to be annoying if they keep using other units of measurement like feet and gallons that have long since been dropped by the rest of the world, but changing the temperature scale would be a good start...

That and the metric system and we'll be in good shape!

It's about like DVORAK vs QWERTY. DVORAK may be a lot better, but who wants to readjust to something if they don't have to?

IMO:Computers are widespread and everywhere but a large portion of the population still "hunt and peck" I'm 99% positive once everyone is proficient with them DVORAK will win out like the Gregorian Calendar over the Julian. When one option is clearly better it tends to win out in the end. Now how log it'll take us to get there and if we'll destroy ourselves before that I have no clue and is an entire other story hahaha

they definetly should but I guess it would cost a lot of money to change all the road signs

「ZA WARUDO」

Silver Chariot 😁

no

No

No

I'm pretty sure by german he meant the original book was in the German language

@@Isac_C7 I think it's just at thing he said somewhere along the video, for a book which clearly displays German without much more thought to it. It's an easy thing to miss. If it was what he meant I would argue it is very misleading. German was one of the main languages used for science at the time, not much different than how all science is published in English today. So with that logic almost all scientific litterature would be French, English and German. And I would say the correct way to phrase that is "this book written/published in German" rather than "this German book".

Too many bad chemistry jokes... lets Barium!

Damn, I keep hitting my neon my chair

Why did the sugar molecule have no chirality? Because it was ambi-dextrose!

I have to give you two isotopes of helium

He He He

haha, yeah I have no idea how ö is meant to be pronounced so I just ignore it and go with o.

Ö is pronounced like an english "a" for example "a" carrot but you just slow it down, drag it out for a bit.

I think you may pronounce "carrot" differently from most Americans, because that vowel sound doesn't even seem close to the sound in Ekström. To me, the ö in Ekström sounds kind of like the o in the French word _pomme_.

+Veritasium the swedish ö is the same sound as the i in "bird"

+Orenar or the i in girl

Thats because no one really cares about water freezing or boiling temperatures. However, 0 degrees F is really cold, and 100 degrees F is really hot!

@@keithv4452 Yes, nobody, just every scientist, cook, engieneer, etc. But since USA has one of the lowest ammount of graduates on the first world would explain why they keep using F. and Effing every scientist, btw, 0 C its really cold and 100 C is really hot too, you wouldnt survive 100ºC and neither 0ºC (without equipement), you only find it convenient cause youre used to it, not because it makes sense.

​@@DaetBThere's literally no reason for cooks to prefer Celsius to Fahrenheit and scientists only use it because it plays well with using water in volumetric metric measurements. You aren't smarter because you use Celsius and in reality, it doesn't matter what temperature scale you use since doing science deals with a lot more than decimal round portions of pure water in exactly 1 atmospheric pressure. The metric system isn't a religion, stop treating it like one.

sorry! I should have double checked. I thought maybe they did things differently in old French...

+Veritasium Very honourable reaction to being proven wrong! Not many people are like that these days.

+Gandalf The Grey proven wrong sounds like a bit of an overstatement... He made an honest mistake which was pointed out. I do agree that his reaction was very respectful however.

Could you share the music name pls ?

Anand, sure. Its the first movement of J S Bach Brandenburg Concert nr 4. It is composed for two alto recorders, strings and Basso Continue. Four years ago, two of my students played that piece at the Music school in Helsingborg. Beautiful music! Hi from Sweden

Same in Brazil. We speak portuguese and celsius / centigrades are interchangeables words.

Same here in Canada.

same here in Mars.

In Colombia I don't remember ever using Celsius, it was always Centigrade.

michael1234252 that's just the Celsius scale minus 273.15. Not much to say about it I think.

ok. But I kinda want to know how Lord Kelvin came up with it and why it's named after him.

+ as a once frustrated chemistry student I'd like to know too!

It's so weird hearing/reading my name in these videos

millsathn No, it's celsius scale+273.15

Or from Belize. Or the Bahamas. Or the Cayman Islands.

***** At least the US has an excuse with how much it would cost and the huge populace. I don't know why the others haven't converted to metric.

Doommagic I'm American and they taught us the metric system in 4th grade and ever since 6th grade, it is all we use.

Or that asian country

Fahrenheit 🤦‍♀️

Here it was 40. Do I win?

LOL -1 Marc here

It's 5 degrees Bob

On the other hand if the scale was inverted it would measure entropy :)

As he said in the video the celsius scale is not defined by water’s different phases. It’s just the water that boils at different temperatures depending on the pressure. The scale does NOT change

Lord kelvin is the one who calculated absolute 0

Actually his name was William Thomson and in 1892 he became the first Baron Kelvin

Paul Duncan yes, if you mean Lord Kevin

Did math create math

CageSomebody. Yes. Yes he did.

Accurate, although he might be refering to practical, not theoretical, reasons. You don't use in everyday life the idea that more heat indicates more molecular kinetic energy.

Yeah I reacted to that as well, thought to myself "what about absolute zero"? If higher numbers are used for colder temperatures, then no matter what scale you use there'll be a finite and rather small "highest number", while the negatives go on basically forever. Unless you're some kind of logarithmic wizard i guess.

Your comment just shows how ingrained the ascending scale is in our minds. If the scale were descending, you wouldn't say "twice as hot" to describe something that's hotter.

"...for measuring degrees of something" That's the point. Celsius probably didn't know that heat was a quantity, so the statement stands.

So that would make poor ironworkers toil in minus several hundred degrees...? It's just a poor choice, people always thought a lot more in terms of "how hot" things were and a lot less about "how cold", so more hot meaning a higher number would still come more naturally IMHO.

ZarlanTheGreen he said some other guy invented the scale.

+Kiimosabe Where? Using what argument?

Lucasif The Odd Wow, how very explanatory! You should consider a career as a teacher (preferably for younger ages) or as a host of a science show that is all about making science more accessible!

Yeah. Celsius published first.

No, Celsius work was based on Reumer, Lineus and Rømer scale, and his contribution is smaller than that of his instrument maker that turned it back around the way the predecessor scales from France and Denmark was.

That was actually filmed in 2012! I've been sitting on this footage for a looooonning time

+Veritasium dafuq? 😂😂 thats cheap man

+Veritasium hahahahahahahaha peak

+Veritasium You just crushed that guy's dream

you, people, do really work hard

It really is the scale for optimists. No negatives

ba-dum-tss

You're right, but it would feel kind of odd having water freeze at 273 and boil at 373. People just like round and simple numbers.

At the time of Celsius, noone knew if there could be a thing as absolute zero until.....Kelvin :)

Well, I've got to say that 3 is a pretty round number. 2 too, except for the pointy end at the bottom... 7 is a bit of a stiff though.

And now?

@@bearcatracing007 Now I am nowhere near that building :) But if you are curious, that is the office of MachineGames (ontop of the little mall).

*scientists Otherwise I fully second that! ; )

@@Superknullisch Plot twist: C in temperature stands for Cientists not for Celsius.

​@@NeelkanthEarthmoversor sCience

dunno

just wait for the sequel

+Veritasium in 1 year

who cares about useless fahrenheits

+Veritasium Celsius 2: The Fahrenheit origins story - I look forward to it!

Fahrenheit is more accurate than Celcius.

Are you serious, mate? The Celsius scale is directly tied to the absolute scale for temperature, how can Fahrenheit possibly be more accurate?

...because the temperature of the human body is 100% constant?

Stefan Dimov Celcius has 100 increments between boiling/freezing. Fahrenheit has 180. For Celcius to be as accurate you'd have to use decimals, like 13.8. No thanks, I'll stick with Fahrenheit.

john lesley oh so that's what you mean. Well, if that's important to you, fine. I would argue that in Celsius scale there's little need for stupidly large numbers and there's no need for learning 2 different temperature scales, one for scientific use and for everyday use. Especially when the "scientific" one works just as well in normal life.