Cessna C172 - refresher training: emergency landing and short field landing! 

Hi mark, an instructor carries a lot of responsibility and flies a lot with rather inexperienced pilots. The student rips off the nose gear on a bad landing and who is responsible: the instructor. I was great fun to fly with Alfred and I learned a lot. Like I do on every flight. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you John. I learn on EVERY flight too. happy landings, Capt. Guido

Hi Adrian, The good thing was that Avgas was a lot cheaper... Happy landings, Capt. Guido

I echo this comment, except for me it was the 70's 😊Excellent video, as always.

I have x-plane 11 too and start to use it more extensively for training. Just bought a G1000 stack from Realsimgear. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

@@GuidoWarnecke I'm myself

You are very welcome Alan. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

The old ones are still the same, you should get back into a 172 😊

Thank you very much Itamar. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you Ken. Repetitive, thorough training is the best safety device. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Vielen Dank Ben! Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Aviation is a never ending leaning process. Best wishes for 2023 and always HAPPY LANDINGS, Capt. Guido

It was new for me too Steve. I did my initial PPL training in Canada. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you Adam. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Best of luck for the checkride Jimmy. Please keep me posted. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you Noah. Every aircraft is flown constantly safer by using a checklist, even if it is just a simple one. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Best of luck for your flight training! I got my initial PPL at CYXE and later instrument rating at CYHU and CYLZ. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Kleine Fliegerwelt, David. Alfred ist ein klasse instructor! Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Indeed! Thank for watching my videos Noah & Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

You are very welcome! Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank your Bernd. As a pilot, you never should stop learning, irrespective of previous experience and flight hours. Especially myself, as I rarely fly single engine piston aircraft. Complacency is a high risk factor. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

@@GuidoWarnecke Absolutely true but you are not showing any decrease in SEP abilities whatsoever. 😁

Thank you very much Stanimir. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

A day at the airport is always time well spent... Enjoy! Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you Rob! Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you! All the best for your flight training. Please keep me posted on the progress. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you very much for your kind words. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you Bernard. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you Mike! Happy landings, Capt. Guido

You are very welcome Patrick. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

You are very welcome! Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you Guido! Best of luck for your flight training. I obtained my first PPL at Saskatoon and further ratings at Montreal and Toronto. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

You are very welcome! Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

You are very welcome! Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you! I learn on every flight also. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you - muito obrigado Danielson. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Vielen Dank. Die PA28 (in allen Varianten) habe ich bis jetzt nur selten geflogen. Happy landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you John. I will pass you message to Alfred. Greetings to Australia & Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

It was new to me as well! It is not used in the USA. Greetings to S Korea. I delivered several aircraft to Gimpo. Fly safe! Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

I do not have a German license at the moment, do this was just a general "refresher". Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

I record ATC on a different channel, there is always a lot of background noise. I have to improve on that. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you Werner. I need to train as any other pilot to stay current and safe. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you! Congrats on the PPL and best of luck for the CPL and any other license and rating to follow.. Please keep me posted. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Vielen Dank Thomas. Ich bin ab und zu in EDMA bei AAS. Vor ein paar Monaten habe ich dort eine King Air abgeholt und nach USA gebracht. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Hi Hugo, you have a good point here. I fly a lot of retractable landing gear aircraft and there you should not touch the flap lever during landing roll out. As long as it is properly briefed you are able to increase your braking action with flaps up. On the other hand you have less aerodynamic braking... We slowed down to taxi speed with minimum braking within 300m. Thanks for your comment & Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Another example how small the aviation world is... Best of success for you training. Please keep me posted not he progress. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

You have a good point here, I am right handed too. Never thought about that. Happy landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you Marcelo. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you Hugo! Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Your instructor is right! We do not know how we react when the engine fails "for real". What we can do is to train regularly and learn how the aircraft behaves and how far it can glide. I would rather stay on the "high and fast" side, even if I hit a fence at say 20 knots at the end of a landing field. The alternative, running out of energy and stall the airplane or hit a tree with 50 knots might not be survivable. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

He also told me not to worry about the plane.. it’s broken the insurance company own it but you have to be around to tell them it wasn’t you who broke it 😂

Thank you Chris. Nothing beats repetitive training. Happy landings, Capt. Guido

Thank you Robin. The pilot who thinks to know it all is a candidate for the next accident to happen. Training is essential. I learn on EVERY flight. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

All German airports are noise sensitive. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Hi Mauricio, I do not know of there is any government support int hat matter in Germany. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

@@GuidoWarnecke Okay Capt. Thanks for your kindness

@@mauricioamado5975 Best of luck for your flying career. Work hard and the sly is the limit. Happy landings, Capt. Guido

Hi Clinton, I don’t fly the F900 but the CJ4, also to FL450 Due to the limited time available, the emergency descent is die based on memory items. Once at safe altitude the actions are verified with a checklist. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

I only adjusted the fuel flow slightly. The fuel injected C172 runs very rich with the mixture full forward. Airport elevation at EDMA is 1,500ft. At a OAT of 20C this corresponds to a density altitude of 2,500ft. One should always run engine rich at high power settings. There is not benefit in running excessively rich though. The contrary: power is degraded. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

@@GuidoWarnecke Thanks for the reply. I guess with a digital engine monitor one can adjust mixture very carefully without risking damage to the engine.

@@pinkdispatcher that is correct.

Thank you! The airport is EDMA Augsburg, Germany. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Hi Gary, Difficult judgement. You don’t want to either undershoot or overshoot your target landing zone. I rather stay on the higher side and dissipate altitude with side slip or s-turns. This is why we should practice and train. We all get rusty. Engines are too reliable… Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Hi Marko, everyone can learn flying. It requires discipline, time and the willing to continuously learn. Happy Landings, Capt. Guidoi

@@GuidoWarnecke Yes but unless I create my own SOPs I can't find any anywhere. Or is that what you did? Thanks!

@@markor2476 If you follow the POH, you are always on the safe side. Also common sense prevails. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

@@GuidoWarnecke Roger

That is correct. Not much difference in a c172. Thanks for watching my videos in such great detail & Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

Hi Stephen, Thanksgiving for your comment. An instructor carries a lot of responsibility. Alfred did everything right: he did not touch the controls or made any control inputs. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

An instructor carries a lot of responsibility. He also trains ab initial students on their first flight. Happy landings, Capt. Guido

@@GuidoWarnecke Yeah, I was more commenting that it is just in their nature to be cautious, no matter who they are flying with. Thanks for the great videos, Guido!

That is correct. Alternatively you can loose altitude with S-turns or wider circles. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

@@GuidoWarnecke Thank you for the video and clarification.

@@camsmeltzer9388 Only my pleasure!

Hi Andreas, it is a refresher. Training of all sorts is good for ANY pilot, irrespective of experiences levels. Happy Landings, Captain. Guido

Gerne! 515m hätte gereicht... Ich war dort noch nie. Der Platz sieht sehr schön und gepflegt aus! Vielleicht komme ich mal mit einer PC12. Der RP gibt sicher eine Genehmigung. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

@@GuidoWarnecke Bis 2500 kg MTOW sind wird zugelassen, mit PPR sind 5700 kg möglich. Fällt da die PC12 noch rein? Wir hatten schon AN2, Beech Traveller, Stearman, C313, Bonanza TP...

@@fliegergruppegiengen ja die PC12 ist darunter.

@@fliegergruppegiengen Muss das Regierungspraesidium die Genehmigung geben? In EDFG hat dies EUR 100 gekostet and den RP Darmstadt foer 3 Landingen in einer King Air 90.

@@GuidoWarnecke Nein, solange du unter 5700 kg bleibst, dürfen wir es entscheiden.

You are certainly entitled to you opinion. In my opinion, most of the approaches in light aircraft are down way too fast, resulting in long landings, used up brakes, blown tires and runway overruns. Slow speed flying is safe as long as the aerodynamics are well understood and risks considered. I agree with you that the speed has to be adequate for the conditions and weight. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

This C172 has a fuel injected engine and definitely runs too rich under given conditions of this flight - full throttle climb out at higher density altitude. It is equipped with a fuel flow gauge and proper EGT gauges for all 4 cylinders. Proper mixture in the climb ensures best climb performance in this (rather underpowered) aircraft. Please explain your concerns and why do you ridicule this? Thanks. I have flown a lot in South Africa with density altitudes above 8,000ft. Without proper leaning techniques performance is significantly degraded. Dop you fly out of a sea level airport? Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

@@GuidoWarnecke That was a wonderful explanation i must say, really appreaciate it! Never go to bed without learning something new.

Hi Guillaume, for this aircraft and weight conditions, 50KIAS on short final is plenty above stall speed. In turbulent conditions one has to be careful though. Happy Landings, Capt. Guido

I believe it was intended over thresh hole. I keep 55 kts. on final.

Hi Dean, the instructor is PIC on the flight and carries a lot of responsibility. Happy Landings, Capt, Guido