Great question. To be 100% honest, I have no idea. I am the original owner of the Mesa cabinet these speakers were in, and I also have a 2nd brand new HB cabinet that just came... I have never noticed a difference in tone over time. I know that supposedly speakers sound better as they age, but in my experience theres not a perceivable difference between brand new and broken in. But that's just my observation, I could be wrong 🤷♂️
@@TaylorDanley Fair enough. I've just noticed that highs tend to mellow over time in speakers. But, those high mids sound like a beehive in the hecho en china speakers
@@mikemccourt6225 interesting. I dont know that I will ever put the china v30s in another cabinet. I may just sell them, not sure.. so I may never find out!
I had a mixed reaction to the speakers depending on which part of the tracks we're playing at the time. Sometimes I liked the Chinese vintage 30s sometimes I like the made in England vintage 30s. Perhaps you could experiment with putting one.of each in the 2x12 to see how they blend. The Chinese v30s seem to have a better high end response but lacked the full body of the ones made in England. It made me think that blending one of each in the same cabinet would actually give a wider range of tonal response. It might even be interesting to see if mounting the Chinese v30s in the Mesa cabinet sound different from how they sound in the 2x12.
Nothing odd or different about the HB Vintage 30s being made in China. The Vintage 30 was the first speaker Celestion switched to Chinese manufacture back in 2003. I bought a couple of HB 1x12s with Vintage 30s and the drivers are identical to the aftermarket Vintage 30s available from my local Celestion dealer. The Mesa and Marshall Vintage 30s are different - they are specially voiced for Mesa and Marshall, not the same as "stock" Vintage 30.
Says someone who doesn’t have the British version lol. Dude they sound totally different. I have both an Engl and Mesa 4X12 and can tell you that they sound identical with the British versions. We then hooked up a Randall with Chinese v30’s and the tone was wider and more fuzzy at higher volumes. Its definitely noticeable.
I agree with commenters saying: 1) the UK Mesa’s are old/broken in, the Harley’s new; 2) All V30’s made in China now; 3) Mesa had their V30’s voiced specifically to their cabs. So the difference here is objectively indecisive before breaking the Harley’s in.
@@alexandertorrente198 It means the fibers of the cone get a chance to be stretched to where they will remain, and as a result the sound grows less harsh as the fibers are stretched as the cone is that much less ridgid. You will have a ton of hi mids with new speakers that will smooth out over time.
@@alexandertorrente198 It means that the speaker is run at moderate volumes for a while to "relax" the paper surround that holds the speaker cone in place, that way they sound better, it is most noticeable on paper surround speakers (guitar/bass) and much less on rubber surround speakers (PA)
@ From my understanding it is mostly the surround that is "broken in" and not the actual cone, it is also most (near exclusively) important on paper surround speakers (instrument speakers - guitar/bass) PA speakers have some form of rubber (foam) surround, and they change much less over time.
8 ohm and 16 ohm speakers sound different though, as they tend to have a different number of coil windings. Not sure you can really compare the specific speakers you tested in a meaningful manner. I like the knowledge from your videos though, keep it up!
Yeah you‘re totally right. its a General rule that speakers with higher ohm Rating will have More highs and high mids. 4ohm speakers are significantly darker
I like the spiky edge of the Chinese made ones to be honest, gives the ear more information, but if you wanted to tame it i'm sure you could pull back on the presence on the amp and it'd give you the desired effect
Good vid. I am sure someone already put this in the comments but there are so many I can’t find it. The Ohm rating of speakers changes their sound, the exact same speaker type will get more top end as you move up from 4 to 8 and to 16. It is just something that is impossible to overcome and happens to all speakers. So two V30 16 ohm speakers wired in parallel for 8 ohms and two V30 4 ohm speakers in series for 8ohms will sound very different in the top end with the 16 ohms speakers sounding brighter. And, that is before accounting for the power amp as it will drive them differently if they are not the same ratings. An amp tapped for 4, 8 and 16 will also change its character with those different loads.
The UK ones sound a bit better here, but I'm confident that if you set up the amp slightly differently, move the mic a bit, or apply some EQ afterwards, you could get them to sound indistinguishable in a blind test. I can see why you choose to send exactly the same signal to both, but for a real world application test it would be nice to also hear the difference if you set the amp/mic up the way you like it with both. Hearing it with some different tones, especially lower gain/clean would also be nice, perhaps Basically, I agree that they sound different, but wonder if that difference is relevant in practice. I also wonder in what way the different impedance affects the sound.
Great points, I wonder this myself. I can tell you to my ears, when my band is practicing, I can definitely hear the differences displayed but they are much less apparent. The difference is so minimal that I think I'm going to swap the 16 ohm MIC speakers back into my HB cab lol.
This is very similar to the Orange PPC/Crush Pro cabs in my experiance. Awesome review/demo, thank you for demystifying the price/quality of the Harley Benton cabs.
I heard a guy, who obviously was a old time pro, with lots of combos under his belt, say that he had tried, like *everything* - found out that the perfect, like magic combination of 2 drivers was a V30 and the 35XC. I personally got them both, but also the Eminence Maverick (tune-able) which is like, heavenly in a 1x12. I am just about to start experimenting with the 3 different 1x12´s in different combinations. But the guy sweared that the: V3 (unknown version) with a 35XC was the greatest sound he had ever achieved. My own V30´s are new and 8ohm, and chinese (but that doesnt matter, other stuff do) - so i will have a blast trying it for myself. That said: Check out the Eminence Maverick and Reignmaker (us vs uk) : the dB tuneability give you *lots* of different flavors in either one. But a 2x12 with both, even more so.
I like the sound of the chinese speakers better so thats nice to know haha. I would love to see a 8ohm vs 16ohm shootout and a series vs parallel wiring shootout. That would make a fun video forsure. A new Sub waiting for that video ;)
Might be a while before I do another comparison vid with these. I'm sort of waiting to see if the chinese speakers end up breaking in and sounding different first.
Great video! I think the ohms factor is a huge one here. Mesa 2x12s are two 16-ohm I’m made Vintage 30’s wired in parallel which makes the cabinet run at 8 ohms. That might be another interesting comparison to make since they are same ohms ratings. Love the info in the video here. Thanks!
Lots of people here are thinking that "V30's are not made in China". Yes, some of them are. Celestion are manufacturing speakers in China for at least 10-15 years. Depending on what cab/combo they are installed, you need to open the back an look at the sticker on the side of the speaker if you wanna check. Mesa Boogie has different voiced V30 speakers "Celestion Vintage 30 (custom made for MESA in Ipswich, England) - used in our closed back Rectifier® cabinets" - that's from Mesa website. So, that's why here they are sounding different. I know these facts for years...but maybe it's just me :))))
I think in these Chinese to UK comparisons the HB just sounds brighter. But I believe that isn't anything you can't take care of with a good eq, like the 10 band MXR. And woah baby that Jackson!!!
Mesa V30's are specifically voiced for Mesa as Celestion does for other amp companies, (some not all). Chinese V30's are the generic type found in Orange amps, etc.
Great idea using a DI re-amp! Most RU-vid vids I've seen use different performances, and often two different mics; even if they're the same riff or model mic, there can be subtle differences, whereas using the exact same recording seems to be the most accurate way to do a "shoot-out"..
Hey Taylor, Thanks for the QUALITY video! You answered actually 2 questions I have been pondering .... The difference between the sm 57 and 58, (which I agree with your opinion)... And .... your in depth,logical speaker swap comparison results. Thanks to your vid here, I will be purchasing a Harley 212 cab. The speakers sound very similar to me, and while I do slightly like the england over china tone, ... It would be very easy to EQ the benton to match it. Thanks again. I subbed cuz of your intelligence, ...and your a helluva guitarist too! Regards, Gerry
I have the Horizontal HB 2x12 v30s. The left speaker sounds more like the Mesa's and the right one is way brighter and harsher sounding. I guess the secret is getting used to eq the ugly top end/harsh mids to fit your mixes. After that, the cheap cab will do the trick anytime
@@TaylorDanley exactly, and for me it's an extra feature to have two different sounding speakers. I guess that happens because the HB cabs are built in a B-stock fashion so not all the speakers are new or have the same construction.
You cant compare the 16 Ohm driver with the 8 Ohm version. They are different speakers with different sounds, they will perform differently on the same signal from the amp. Also, the amp powering the cabinet will perform totally differently powering an 8 ohm cab then a 4 ohm cab. Nice video though.
Another variable is the difference in ohms. Speakers react differently to different ohm loads. Higher ohm loads have more resistance and thus take more power to move them than a lower ohm speaker.
I think one of the differences not enoguh people talk about is impedance. It makes a big difference in tone. 8ohms, like mesa uses, have that characteristic smoother sound. 16ohm v30s sound A LOT brighter in my experience. Every "harsh" sounding V30 I've ever heard, whether it was new or broken in, was a 16ohm speaker.
That's why i personally prefer to go with Eminence. While they don't sound the same as a V30, they have a really unique sound to them that sounds absolutely crushing. If you wanna go with eminence, i would definitely suggest either the CV75, the Govenor, or the Man O War. Eminence Speakers are also made in Eminence, Kentucky, which is also my homestate, which I thought was really cool.
!6 ohm and 8 ohm speakers sound different, so the comparison is not really accurate. Most of the vintage 30´s you buy online is chinese. The brittish made that comes in mesa and other high end cabs are a lot more expensive. But even if you compare the brittish made there is a difference between 16 ohm and 8 ohm speakers. 8 ohm speakers are a lot darker sounding than 16 ohm speakers.
This may be true, but saying my comparison isnt accurate is a little odd. I mean I compared speaker A to speaker B, pretty straight forward. I'm didn't make the video to debate impedance, you know what I mean? 🤷♂️
I have a Randall 2x12 with China V30’s and by far the best cabinet I’ve owned , I also have a Marshall 4x12 made in England V30’s and love that cabinet too , but the Randall Diavlo 2x12 is a lot easier to transport and even though has the China V30,s and well broken in sounds KILLER.
I can confirm that the UK manufactured 8ohm speakers are smoother sounding than the Chinese 16ohm speakers which have a nasty high frequency spike on axis. I have the exact same speakers and recently transferred the UK 8ohm speakers to my 2x12 cabs. Messa cabs still use the UK speaker so that is one of the reasons they will sound different/better than another manufacturer like Harley Benton.
Hi Taylor, really glad I ran into your channel - a smooth blend of entertainment and useful info. Either it’s the gear you review or smth else, but you nail my youtube content prefs spot on, keep it running man! Now to the subject. Considering the high gain stuff, the chinese HBv30 is my piece of cake for sure. I always tend to lean towards clarity/presence/mid-treble domination - at least you can deal with it dialing it out if needed, but you can’t add something that’s not there in the first place;). But again crunch and cleans might be a totally different story - I mostly find myself liking speakers for high gain not so with clean-crunch stuff and vice versa. One of the good all-rounders for my taste is a g12H creamback for example. How do you find sm58 compared to sm57 for high gain recording?
Thanks, tha means a lot! In all honesty I think the Chinese v30s kind of sound more similar to cream backs, maybe that's why you like them more! The classic UK v30 is just what I've been used to for the last 10 years, so I'm biased. I use an sm58 because it's a little more forgiving with placement, and it just takes less time to set up for shooting videos. Tonally, they are really close, but the 58 has a little more low end. I WILL be modding a 57 here soon (if you aren't familiar you can mod them to sound more like sm7b's). I also like using 2 57's with a Friedman clip sometimes.
Hey Taylor, I see the V30s in the Harley Benton are model T3904A. If you happen to still have your UK V30s, could you tell me what the model number is on those speakers? In case it's interesting and there's a difference, I ordered an 8 ohm UK V30 directly from Mesa and got a T4335B. Just wondering if your Mesa 4x12 has a different UK V30 variant, as I know there are actually a few different ones out there depending on the age of your Mesa cab. Thanks!
I don't know what model number, but I bought that cabinet new in 2009 if that helps! If I had the speakers pulled out, I'd check, but I ended up putting them back in the mesa cab... On a side note, I think the UK made for mesa V30's are better (smoother, less harsh top end) after spending a few months with them in the 2x12.
Hi Taylor, please feel free to call me a dork, but I like the Harleys better, especially in the mix. Might be personal taste, I don't know. Sound ist allways quite subjective. Nice video you did there. Stay safe and healthy. Greetings from Germany.
Another thing that’s not mentioned here, in the HB cabinet, the speakers are front mounted and 4x12 the speakers are rear mounted. Front mounted speakers will be slightly scooped in the low mids. If you rear mounted the Chinese vintage 30s - it would thicken the tone. As well aging the speakers will get them identical
Bro i just bought this Orange 212ppc and i wish that i could hear it more without cranking it do you think I could stand it on its side so thats essentially a vertical so that its in my face rather at my feet?
At least the Chinese ones give some semblance of rhythm separation through all that gain, but 8ohm speakers are usually a little darker due to why they have a different rating anyway.
@@TaylorDanley Seems so, the standard HB speaker cabinets, which are a bit cheaper have generics in them, and they sound good! Less harsh than the V30s!
Hi Taylor, great video, I bought an harley benton 2x12 v30 too, and if I use it in mono (8ohm) shoud I switch the amp for 8ohm too, right? And if I switch the cabinet for stereo (16ohm) and use two power cables, wich position shoud I put on the amp (in my case is a peavey 6505+)? 4, 8, or 16 ohm???
How "broken in" are the Chinese V30s? V30s of all sorts are known for being harsher when new, until the surrounds break in and soften a bit. Seriously curious, since I have the horizontal Harley Benton cab and it DOES sound quite different from my Carvin cab with English 16 ohm V30s. Curious how many hours I need to break the Harley Benton in.
Great comparison. I just ordered the Chinese German cabinet. As much as there is a difference I sort of like the Chinese break up because I play grunge like Soundgarden type tone Black Sabbath. If I played metal like you I would probably make a big difference and I would have to have the English variety.
TBH, yeah, they are different but I feel like it's not that one is "better" you can make each sound great. I went back to the stock speakers, and I'm pretty happy with them! I'm sure you'll enjoy them also.
To me the obvious difference is the HB is front mount.....the Mesa rear mount. The “young me” would’ve gone for the rear mount.....usually a deeper bottom end (my ears). But me now usually prefers the front mount. For me, the front mount typically sounds a little tighter and crisper (some say “it sounds clearer). I agree the upper mid “breakup or noise” was noticeable. I’m not a fan of v30 live (because I usually play loudly). My experience was w/a 50w head....v30 was ok live, but I prefer my GK-85’s live due to the fact they stay tight when pushed hard. Reminds me of an EV, but warmer. Now a-days I either use an AX8, or a tighter front mount 2x12 with my Soldano rack.....just let the PA do the bottom end work. Good vid regardless.
Thanks! That makes sense. I assumed the UK v30s sounded brighter/tighter just because it's a smaller cab, but I didnt consider front vs rear mount. Good point!
In all fairness I thought the MIC v30s sounded pretty decent. When you factor in the cost though, its nuts you can get a speaker of that quality for that price
@@TaylorDanley So true the reason I picked up the Marshall Vintage was that they were 8 ohm and 70 watts and only $100 a piece. I had them in an old cab I sold a few years ago and really liked them.In another cab I rebuilt I'm using Eminence GB128's I really like the way they sound with my Laney AOR.
Hey Taylor please answer my question I need your help! I just bought a Harley Benton G212 Vertical Cab to go with my new EVH 5150 iii 15 watt LBX Stealth amp and it’s my first time buying a cab and I’m not sure how to connect. My amp is 8ohms so it definitely matches but the pictures of the cab shows 2 input jacks on the back. So which one do I plug the cable running from the speaker output Jack of the amp head into on the cab? The left Jack (input) or the right Jack (through)? Would really appreciate it I’m expecting the cab to arrive tomorrow.
Celestions are notoriously bad without beaking in, i think that's the case here. But cool vid, i would love to hear if you try them again after you hit them hard for 48hrs
Yeah. And like you can see in the thread, theres a billion opinions on 8 ohm vs 16 ohm, etc., etc. But for me, the proof is in the pudding. Thats just the way the mass produced chinese ones sound. BUT, now that I'm using an axefx3, dialing them in is cake, so they dont bother me at all anymore. I actually swapped the speakers back to the stock ones recently, and have 2 matching HB cabs now for live use!
Why does everyone make such a big deal about the price of the speakers? Most likely the answer is “wholesale pricing”. I’m sure Thomann is getting better prices than MSRP.
People dont realize how ripped off they're getting buying single units from sweetwater, or even speaker cabs in general. Those $130 Celestion V30s are about $40/per once you get into triple and quad digit quantity orders (and $30/per or less for 10k of them). Speaker cabinets are a HUGE grift, fuckers charging you $500-1000 for a $100 worth of wood, speakers, and mesh.
I did the same swap with the Mesa 2x12 vert.. I thought that slight eq diff. might have been the cab size difference but came to the conclusion that, like the gentlemen below note, it was the "break in", and maybe the impedance adding a pinch of "high". I do, however, posses a pair of old V30's, UK, that have been in several 4x12/2x12 cabs, that were obtained in the 90's. One of them is bright, and one of them is noticeably darker sounding. It sounds like the Mesa's. I think the Mesa V30's may have diff. edge dope too. Be that as it may, I don't use treble or presence on my Marshall heads, (maybe 1), and never have the tone knob past 7 on my bridge pup. I ordered another HB cab though.
I like the UK's. Seems like the old adage you get what you pay for applies. There are also tonal variations (so I am told) between front mounted and rear mounted speakers. For $200 might be worth buying the Harley Benton and swapping out the chinese V30's for a pair of Green Backs I have laying around.
They're totally worth it, the cabs are plywood and pretty well built. The chinese speakers really aren't bad at all... I'm actually considering swapping back and just using the MIC v30s
Is it possible maybe the chinese one just wasn't broken in? Also, could you get them to sound the same by rolling the presence back just a hair on the chinese one?
I'm waiting for a while to see if they break in. They had a decent amount of play time at live rehearsal volumes, but I just want to make sure since theres no consensus on how long it takes for a speaker to break in. I can tell you from my experience, using an axefx you can really dial in these speakers, and then they end up sounding similar to the mesa uk v30, but not the same.
@@TaylorDanley there's a speaker called the avatar hellatone which is just a broken in v30. I can't remember how many hours they break them in for. Depending as on a lot of factors like how hard you push it iirc. Just crank your amp every day through them for a while and see of that works lmao
The Ohmage maybe have caused the change in the tone... a true test would be comparing 16ohm to 16ohm-- with the two 8ohm speakers in parallel, and a 4 ohm cab, you get more "sag" which gives it a less focused bottom end and less punch and crunch, but more of a smooth peanut buttery sound (that I frankly love about the V30s anyways). Glad you pointed out the Ohmage thing, I would hate it if somebody got overeager and then destroyed their amp. I have been thinking about buying a HB 2x12 cabinet myself, and then replacing the speakers in time as I save up the money. thanks for making this video.
The UK Vintage 30's have a more complete/full/round...etc tone spectrum where the made in China do have some top heavy frequencies going on, as you mentioned. I almost went for the Thomann V30 cab but in the end built my own and bought used UK manufactured Vintage 30's. I would still recommend the Harley Benton and the status of Thomann in your corner. I have never lost in doing business with Thomann. They provide the win.
Has nobody mentioned the construction of the cabinet has a bit of effect. Rear/front loaded speakers. Baffle / mounting panel construction. My Harley Benton 1x12 sounds a bit more scooped than my birch constructed TV front cab 1x12 also with Chinese V30. Also on my Vox 2x12 I installed a series / parallel switch to switch 4/16 depending on my amp. No noticeable difference that I can perceive. But maybe I will try it again with an amp that has multiple speaker resistance options.
There not the same vintage 30’s , Mesa has there’s specifically voiced for them , the Marshall vintage 30’s are different again that the standard vintage 30’s and as of 2003 all celestion speakers are made in China except a few heritage models like the alnico blue and heritage greenbacks , celestion speakers get better sounding the older they get so a ten year old speaker will sound warmer and fuller that a brand new speaker that isn’t broken in
That's an insanely insightful comment, thank you. I knew making this video was going to cause some debate based off of threads I had read on forums. At the end of the day, I'm swapping the speakers out for myself and making a video that will hopefully be enjoyed by other people, you know? 🤷♂️
Taylor Danley sorry wasn’t criticizing just throwing some info out there , I learned most of this the hard expensive way , there’s also vintage 30’s with other labels on them if you know where to look , some are Marshall gold ( the original vintage 30 from the 70’s ) and Mesa used to label them as black shadow on some custom orders , the Harley Benton cab will get better sounding after awhile , few years ,
I really like the idea of the video and the execution, all good, but I really wish you would not poison the well and tell us what your opinion of the sound before we hear it. Its your video though. Still great content. The HB cab is still a good deal.
First: 8 ohm vs 16 ohm means different spiders, voice coil sizes, and possibly different cap sizes and even cone materials. One of the biggest differences between resistance ratings is the effect on tone. The higher the impedance, the brighter the speaker. This is why the old Fender bass amps used 4 ohm speakers. Second: what’s the age and hours of use on each cab? Speakers have a break in period of at least 30 hours. Third: cabinet materials matter. Are they both the same size and dimension? Are they both the exact same materials? You are goin to get different sounds. Summary: the expectation should be that the HB cab will be brighter, and lack more low-end. This is not an apples to apples test.
As others have pointed out, all V30s are Chinese these days and have been for awhile. Mesa has theirs made special for their cabs. I like both and think one of each would be great.
I know people say that, but I dont think that's correct. You can buy UK made v30s direct from Mesa, so they obviously still make at least some in the UK 🤷♂️
@@TaylorDanley that's true, but the Mesas are voiced specifically for and by Mesa. So its comparing 2 speakers that are supposed to sound different. Mesa isn't the only company that use v30s. Whether you're buying another brand that has celestion v30s or having a nice custom cab built, if you choose celestion v30s you're going to get those same Chinese made celestions. The idea that Harley Benton is using some lesser Chinese made V30s is the part I think people are pointing out. If you go online to purchase non-mesa v30s you are going to get the Chinese v30s. HB isnt using some cheaper speaker and calling it a v30, they're using legit v30s. All that being said I think I'd rather have the Mesas. I currently have the Harley Benton cab and am pretty happy though.
@@TaylorDanley Celestion has cleared this up before. The real Chinese vs UK comparison is comparing old UK v30s with Chinese V30s. Celestion claims there is no difference and many tests support that. The Mesas are a different deal though. They made an OEM deal with Celestion for their specific speakers and part of the deal is they stay in the UK.
@@TaylorDanley as far as I know you can still get brand new Mesa V30s and theyll always be made in the UK. I also heard that other companies have speakers that are based on the v30 that they voiced differently and then gave a different name. Not sure which ones or where they're made. You also have old Celestion v30s that used to be made in the UK.
TBH, I have no idea. Lots of people in these comments will tell you yes, but I just don't know enough to confirm or deny it. I can tell you this though, I do think break in is a myth. These speakers sound the same today as they did the day that I purchased them.
@@TaylorDanley lol, I thought the little speaker in my Fender Champion 20 was breaking in and sounding better over time, in reality I think I was just getting better at dialing it in though...
@@TaylorDanley There is a difference in 8 vs 16 ohm, and besides that - the "break in" works like this: new, you could think that the mid or treble is sharp, but in reality the mechanical stiffness of the driver surround and such causes the *bass* to be less, so eventually (x hours) the *bass* will be louder/better, and the perceived trebeliness will be lower. More balanced. (and then, remember that ones hearing memory is actually kind of short, so we become accustomed to sound after just a while, too - difficult to make a compairson "by ear" by yourself)
Another great video of yours, thank you for that. How have you had / played the british V30 in the past? Probably the chinese ones need to be broken in. Cheers
Thanks! I have them in my mesa 4x12s. Could be they need to be broken in, no idea. I've gone back and forth on how I feel about the chinese ones lol. I definitely prefer the v30s from my mesa, but could be break in, only time will tell
Thx for the video. I am using a 20watt tube amplifier that requirers a minimum of 8 ohms. I want to connect the HB cabinet to another cabinet with 2 x 12 inch 50watt 8 ohm Eminence speakers. Should they be configured to 8 ohms? In series or parallel? are they any special concerns? mono or stereo jack(s)? I thought that the HB speakers were 8ohm but, I guess that they ran them to be 16ohms from what you say in the video. thank you
Are the Harley Benton Stock Speakers already burnt in? These makes a difference! Also it would be interesting if you could EQ the highmid breakup out with a EQ between Amp (-Modeller) and Speaker! Thanks for the Video!
Thanks for the suggestion! Yes, they definitely had adequate time to be broken in, I've been playing this cabinet at various volumes for a couple months before I made the video. I'll have to try to EQ it out, I actually haven't attempted that yet! I have a 2nd one coming soon.
@@TaylorDanley yeah I was thinking the exact same thing. Pretty sure the ampero or the mooer would have some sort of equalizer pedal you could apply in the chain? Or an actual physical EQ pedal?
@@OinTaylor yes! They definitely both have eq pedals built in. My power amp also has an eq.. i think if I'm going to do this demo though, I'm going to use a modeler with a bit more horsepower..
Were the English V30s new or old? Also, do they even make them in the UK anymore or is that only reserved for certain ones? Doesn't really make sense to have some v30s made in China and some in the UK. People have stated they actually like the sound of the Chinese ones more, part of that sound I think was here too, but that mid-high thing you talked about, yeah..