Chaos is a Ladder... But To Where? Q&A (The Littlefinger Q&A) 

So there was a dagger question that I worded really bad, pretty sure it was about who owned the dagger like during the times of The Mad King or something? Just to clear up my terrible rewording of it XD

Catelyn was supposed to be spared during the Red Wedding. I wonder if Littlefinger had something to do with that detail, he wasn't in on the plan, but maybe he impressed upon Tywin the importance of sparing her as part of his ascension to lord of Harrenhal.

the hour long q&a... based, gonna watch this later

I do not think that this will happen at all, but I kinda want Stoneheart to be a perpetual figure at Winterfell, with future generations of Starks just nonchalantly taking her for granted, perhaps calling her something like "Old Granny Stoneheart", but having it be an extremely (and comedically) uncomfortable moment whensoever they have to introduce any of their friends or betrothed partners to her for the first time.

Little Finger reading Karl Marx is a great visual. I can def see him using that "opiate for the masses" line on people

As for Ned to the wall - ask why the hired assassin (faceless man) was among the people going to the wall? Littlefinger hired him to Merk Ned before he arrived north of the Neck, in order to guarantee the war between 5 kings. The faceless man now without a target decided to recruit his successor instead.

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The thought of Marwyn reanimating a pickled Maester Aemon is the level of horrific I would expect from a Euron chapter. Thank the old gods and the new that isn't remotely on the cards. (This being a theory I've never heard and see no reason for Marwyn to do so)

Great to hear you enjoying yourself while reading the questions my guy. Fun qna

For the Varys series a big question I have is why he wanted Ned alive and tried to keep the peace for so long, when surely starting a war and making mayhem would better suit Westeros for Aegon taking over? (And it’s what he seems to be doing know so why did he wait so long?)

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Just came here from Interesting Nerd Club. You guys made me laugh so hard I almost peed myself.

Personally, I've always liked the idea of Littlefinger trying to end feudalism and transition into capitalism - not out of any benevolent revolutionary desire to help the peasants or anything, but just because it is a system where Littlefinger would dominate. His family already has ties to Bravos and via Bravos, the Iron Bank, he was Master of Coin before, and this winter is going to massively destabilize feudalism, so I find it plausible for him to come up with a sort of baby's first capitalism built on buying and selling land from lesser lords, "loaning" land temporarily (rent) and so forth. I suppose it seems credible to me because of how George steals from history; the way the Black Death and it's mass labor shortage led to the collapse of feudalism, and the significance of the Magna Carta taking power away from kings and into the hands of merchants. In the show (which as awful as it was likely did loosely follow George's ideas) we see an aristocratic class take over in a sort of messed up Republican Democracy, so maybe in the books something similar will happen, but it will have been the string-pulling of Littlefinger. The show fucked up by pretending this new aristocratic democracy was something more egalitarian than before, but the books would likely make it super clear that this is a terrible system with clear exploits - like how whoever has the majority of food and populace would basically outvote everyone else immediately. Seeing as Littlefinger has been hoarding food in the well-protected Eyrie, and the Arryns are basically the only unspent force in Westeros, we can see the clear endgame there for him. Of course this is all rabid speculation but it always made a lot of sense to me, for this self-made man to be the one to try and take down the system of lords and ladies that screwed him over - the replace the overly rigid world of monarchy with the chaotic world of capitalism. I say all this with the addendum that George himself generally is pretty negative on capitalism, so Littlefinger would not be the hero here - just a unique kind of villain. The best part is though, this all still accommodates Littlefinger as a petty little loser who is obsessed with revenge, in my opinion. In pragmatic terms, his grand master plan may be to surplant kings and put himself at the top, all the while never needing to put himself at risk or responsibility that kings bear. He can become an Illyrio, a rich man with immense infleunce and no one to be beholden to. However, on a personal level, it's all about proving himself, proving how those assholes in high school were wrong, and making them all pay by basically burning down the high school. Throwing out the board game in order to really and conclusively "win". Everyone else is playing Risk but Littlefinger wants to be playing Monopoly, basically. So he's gonna make them play Monopoly. A socioeconomic revolution fuelled by one man's spite and ego.

Gf2P hype. Good job, quality series, will rewatch with the other hits.

The connection in Question 2 between Littlefinger and the Titan of Braavos is really cool.

thank you for the video series very interesting

I can't remember most of the series (that's the problem with video series I suppose), but I think Littlefinger is still plotting. I think there is more to his plans than revenge on the Tullys and capturing Sansa.

"What little peace and order the five kings left us will not long survive the three queens" (Alayne II AFfC) Who is the third queen? Has LF cast his net wide enough to know about Dany, and to believe she's coming west soon? (that's what Illyrio believed in Tyrion II ADwD, which takes place about 3 months earlier... would LF's news really be that much out of date?) Or does he know about Arianne's Queenmaking, and anticipates a Queen Myrcella or Queen Arianne? (The Queenmaker is also about 3 months prior to Alayne II). Odd that he would know about Dornish schemes but not Varys' plans with King Aegon.

little figner's standing for himself

So ye i actually love the idea that LF is gonna die in a trial by combat since it would go back to him challenging brandon. Like he realised he cant do that anymore so he doesnt fight anyone anymore and him being forced to try and save himself with fighting would go back to that.

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15:15 the starkgaryens shippers cry in pain as Jon Snow gets a Ice-elf/necromancer GF in the next book

I thought it was established that Joffrey was the one who tried to have Bran killed? Not Littlefinger. I mean he has the knife, but hell, he didn't know Bran would get chunked from the window

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Is it on LF's to-do list to destroy the castle of Riverrun? Its the location of all those bad memories for him... the ultimate symbol of House Tully's destruction... plus there's imagery in the text about the castle being destroyed (weak evidence, I know, but its something): Its on the *Tumblestone* river; "Through the stone, she could hear the faint rush of the Tumblestone." (Catelyn VII ACoK); "hard black rain pounded against the stones of Riverrun" (Catelyn III ASoS); "I'll pull your walls down, and divert the Tumblestone over the ruins" (Jaime VI AFfC). Castles have been destroyed before, including via water (Castamere, Tarbeck Hall, Tower of Joy, possibly Whitewalls, kinda Harrenhal)

LF wants power and money. And Sansa. I think Sansa will at last get rid of him after he offs SR. She's been getting more and more creeped out by him.

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Missed this opinion on Stannis and how will his story end? Also what do you think was GRRM's purpose with this character

4:00 i have always felt it was obvious that Catalyn and Maester Luwin were the ones that hired the cats paw. Cat gets the Lysa letter says its encrypted but burns it so no one can read it aka ned. Luwin then tells how Jon wants to join the watch and and catlyn seems to think how much better that plan is in securing her childrens succession. I believe when Bran falls Catlyn then choose to have Bran put out of his misery and then likely changes her mind but cant then call it off. Which is why she is terrified that if she falls asleep Bran will die because she knows that the Cats paw which she and luwin paid off will be coming at some point and she needs to be there and awake to call it off. The cats paw tells her that she wasnt suppose to be there. Says its a mercy. Like hes trying to explain she made the right choice and that he will do it quick. Its clear after saying this and her telling him no that he feels set up. He whispers something in her ear which is super suspect. Also liturally the night he strikes luwin tells Catalyn that they will need to name a master of horse she then starts screaming to kill the horses kill the wolves to silence them. Rob says the next day he will apoint master of horse which will then leave the assassin without a spot to hide so they have no further choice then to move up the timeline luwin leaves shortly after the library fire and then then man strikes. With how far the fire is i believe luwin will have needed to start the fire. But the biggest proof is Catlyn not believing Bran is more or less at risk for death once she falls asleep and wakes. Which is because the true risk to Brans life as been taken out of the equation. Also she tells jon that he should be the one essentially dead when he comes to see bran likely being the original target before bran was hurt and jon chooses the nights watch. The whole story of Luwin destroying a box because of getting a box with a lense is idiotic. The letter is also sealed with the Arryn sigil so why could that not have been a letter for Ned. The whole scene was set up before hand between Catlyn and Luwin to manipulate Ned she was expecting the Knock on the door and it was all planned to get Ned to accept being Roberts hand. Last bit of evidence is a bit less obvious but if you look at the conversation between her and varys if i remember right is subtle jab at cat for being responsible the cut on her hand. He also tells her that the free cities have the best healers in the world and he could send for one. Clear hes talking about assassin because Maesters of the Citadel are world renown as the best healers and the free cities are known for assassins aka Bravos Catlyn seems to get the hint at this points says no she has a maester looking after Bran. I would suggest anyone thats not thought of this to think of this being whats going on and rereading the book up to when she meets little finger and Varys and this becomes the only reasonably explaination that fits everything else going on. She also has some greater plan with little finger that little finger basically shuts her up from saying outloud when she ask if verys knows about. He cuts her off says varys knows everything moments later varys arives on scene clearly he didnt want him to know what she was going to say and knows he has ears everwhere. Side note the fact that in Brans vision of the fall before flight he sees his mother on a ship with a bloody dagger ? Wtf this comes off as being a real time view of things in some viewings but if so why is there blood on the dagger . And if its metaphorical blood and shes holding the knife its because she essentially weilded the blade and cut her own hand by hiring the man that cut.her . Again varys seems to rub it in as well that she cut herself. Which she did cause herself to be cut by hiring this guy that fails to complete the job so varys tells her he can send for someone that can get the job done. Sorry about the rambling

Stoneheart will want to die if she knows her daughters are alive.

I agree that Varys and Ilyrio aren't nearly as interesting as the Faceless Men. It's pretty much just logistical stuff that we don't know about them at this point. Though, if you have anything to add about them, I'll still be interested in hearing it.

Come to think of it isn’t a plot hole, that when the cats, Paul wrestled with Kaitlyn, Kaitlyn grabbed the dagger to hold it off from harming brown, but we like to learn that this is a valerian, steel, dagger, and valerian steel slices through muscle bone, even metal like butter. Therefore, Kaitlyn should’ve immediately lost her fingers, and should not have been able to hold a knife at all.

Can’t believe I missed this

Hoster would have died years before.

Do you think Sansa will inherite the money, food and Lands as Alayne?

How do you see LF's trial playing out??? Everything we know about Stoneheart suggests that there's no way any justice she dispenses will be just. LF can probably talk his way out of any charges, if its actually a fair trial that listens to his defense? If the Old Gods compel him to confess, I don't really like the mechanics of that on a thematic level.

(T)Aegon is going to ride rhaegal, and after he dies, Jon is going to hop on rhaegal.

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Harry will die, but he might marry and impregnate Sansa first. That could change the power balance.

I think that Harry and Sansa will marry, and that LF will get him killed somehow.

Little finger WANTS to call the shots in the bed, too much of a beta to do it.

I don't think that LF loves.

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“You weren’t supposed to be here” repeatedly, really suggests the cats paw was a total idiot and the plan to distract Brands guards wasn’t his. “It’s a mercy” being the wildling way backs Manse manipulation of an idiot into taking the job. Preston has a real point with this one