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There's something so funny about Chaos saying they're "still displeased". They're usually so distant from everything so hearing them basically say "hmm yes, I appear to be fucking pissed at that guy" is a bit of a shock
Even then there are still other primeval forces out there Gaia chronoses mother and although scattered Uranus his father and considering that the lore for Aphrodite in Hades is that she is chrosoes half sister they have the same father maybe love is timeless
I don’t think Chaos minds a smidge of order, it’s all going to turn back into chaos eventually after all. They’ve always been something like a somewhat detached scientist, and they only chose to interact with anyone aside from their child Nyx due to boredom. If they weren’t interested in seeing what Chronos was going to do with their plan, they probably could quite easily get rid of him.
@@gameb9oy "I believe that chaos being upset is a bad move by Supergiant,Considering the higher viewpoint and strictly speaking, fates don't dictate the future but can make certain possibilities more likely to come to pass. Fates only display prophecies that have an almost absolute chance of happening and through displaying possibilities it has snow ball affect
Technically, Chaos is beyond the Fates, since they are most definitely the most powerful entity in the Greek Mythology and predates and gives birth to literally everything
@@ryuvereignnolife3980 Considering how Chronos completely captured both Nyx and the Fates, I'm not sure that tracks, unless they end up making Chronos a protogenoi rather than a Titan.
Chaos is not stupid, it's more like Chaos is so far outside of everything that from this distance everything becomes equal and only by oberserving something out of the ordinary, Chaos recognizes indifferences. Also Chaos can't be too close to creation or otherwise the mere interaction would cause everything to be erased from reality. Oberserving, being curious and granting some boons but still being far away is the only thing Chaos can do. Chaos even if they appear careless don't want creation to end and hold sympathie towards creation. That's why they can't get involved and based on what we know from the first game, Chaos is conflicted because Chaos cares about certain individuals like Nyx or Zag. As naive as it may be, when Chronos contacted Chaos, it was a child of creation talking to the parential figure that birthed creation, just like a child asking one of the parents on the playground for chocolate.
i think chaos is so out of inmortal and mortal affairs, it all seems alien to it I guess they just see the greater scale of things, so they can't really focus on the details
he is alien to sentience despite being sentient himself, yet the one trait of sentience he seems to know well is whimsical curiosity, which is fitting for a being like him, who wishes for perpetual entropy, a key aspect of the chaos theory which is fundamental to the universe. thats kind of the best way ive come to describe him in my head.
Yeah that one line from Chaos describes it perfectly: "I don't care for trivial questions, only answer when prompted but above all else always speak your mind."
It is hard to predict deceit when you are so far above everyone else. That is the reason why Ouranos fell so easily to Gaea's plot and why Kronos ate a boulder instead of Zeus. Kronos learned from his mistakes but Chaos is so immune to consequence that he simply can't fathom deceit.
@@dylanpyle6500I’d argue more that they can’t, usually. They definitely do care about freedom of their creation, and they care for Nyx and to an extent Zagreus and maybe even Melinoë because of their interactions allowing them to become closer. However, if proximity allows Chaos to care, then Chronos is someone who they have a care about, and that is one of the two vendettas Chaos has ever cultivated. The fact that Chronos leveraged the only other vendetta against them is definitely not tolerated well. Chaos has far more words about it, which makes me think they’re trying to brew ideas and, dare I say, _chaotic plans_ in Melinoë’s mind. If she’s on a path of her own creation, they can assist in their own way.
@@filipemarques5666 no chaos sees possibilities and is interested in which will come to pass out of all of them,I see the existence as a reflection like a mirror to explore more about itself.just like Witcher 3 and guanter o dim
Sorta irrelevant, but I am deeply in love with Chronos' design in this game. The gold mended cracks along his obsidian skin is so inspired, considering both his love for money in game and the fact his body was spread and seperated in the pits of Tartarus. All of the artwork in this game is so gorgeous!!
Bro was relearning to bond with their "family" the last game. If I was an all powerful primordial embodiment of discord myself, helping out shady members of the family "just a little bit" would be inconsequential.
@@amanofnoreputation2164 which is funny because his new form is they holding their own ripped off head with spine and all, pondering about it. considering this form is so similar to nyx and attempting at looking less grotesque and unsettling, perhaps this incident with Chronos was the one thing in not even he knows how many eterneties he might have stopped and started thinking about what he just done, instead of just going ''ah yes, that was quite amusing.'' like he usually does. and by self reflecting he decided he should try harder to actually understand the sentience that, despite having, still knows so little about how what it really is.
Chaos really is the only one who could've given Chronos the Fates' location, as they are above them (the boons they give to Zagreus are said to be distortions in reality, which don't follow the Fates' design), bc if it was up to them, the Fates would've absolutely stopped Chronos otherwise
@@dylanpyle6500 fellow daoist the wild how do you fare? author has new novel again btw haven't read in a while but wasn't the reason wisdom path was so limited was because of heaven?
Primordial chaos getting bamboozled bc they just have so little consideration for other gods' agendas and petty conflicts that the idea that they could be a factor in one of them didnt even occur is kind of hilarious.
To be fair, Chaos is an observer first an foremost. They do seem to "care" about certain individuals like their daughter Nyx, but they're so above even Chronos that their attitude is best summed up as: *"Meh, it'll work itself out."*
except this time he saw only later how fucked up all that was and was like ''oh, that doesnt look good''. which was enough for hm to decide to reform completly, judgng by how similar to nyx and how he is holding his own previous forms ripped off with the spine head, is attempting to understand sentience better and ponder about his own. literally self reflecting wondering what he could have, and should do better in his position perhaps.
I mean... the whole realm going complete chaos now, I doubt them would give a flying f. The 'deceive' probably is the only thing that displease them, slightly. Any sane being should think a billion times over before they make a decision that would upset chaos, even slightly. Though, Chronos lost his mind ages ago.
Chronos gloating that he scammed the creator of existence is something else. Like bruh, this is how you get smited far harder than your sons ever did to you...
Still, Fates goes against Chaos since they trace a destiny that can't be broken, which of course, that's something that chaos is all about the freedom and different outcomes, the ever changing entity. He has his regret because Chronos can set everything to only one goal and that goal there is no place for chaos
I mean... Chaos is, well, Chaos. You can't expect Chaos to know what deceit is as it would mean going against something already planned, and well, planning probably isn't what Chaos does best.
I think it is less unfamiliar and more personal experience. Chaos watches mortals talk but does not talk to them so much. Basically I do not think they can be fooled twice, but fooling once is all Chronos thought he needed.
From what I understand is Chronos phrased it like a science experiment: What would happen if the fates were unable to do their job? Chaos was so intrigued by this question he didn't think that Chronos had ulterior motives for doing it until it was too late.
I know this is not at all the point of the video, but dang Chaos got a glow up from the last game. Not to say that their look in the original game was bad, but this one is just fabulous
I like to think that Zagreus is part of the reason for this change. I mean Zag and Nyx were the only ones by the time of Hades 1 that had contact with him, and he made a brief appearance at the feast on olympus, and decided he wanted to look similar to them instead of his usual look in the first game. That's my "logical" take on why he changed, for when someone new, here Melinöe, comes looking for them to talk.
I'm not entirely sure how to feel about their new look, pretty as it is, but I know one thing I miss from the old look: the way that they stared directly at the camera in their portrait. Ominous, like an omni-present eye gazing at the player themselves. This new look seems a lot more subdued in that regard. I suppose that Chaos facing away from the player could have its own intrigue - like the eye is still watching, but from its periphery, not even bothering to give you its full attention. This sort of lines up with how Chaos finds Mellinoe less interesting than her brother, thus they may not care to give her the same focus. I just prefer the direct gaze a bit more.
Curiosity, with omniscience, and the power to manipulate everything it perceives makes Chaos unknowable. No ethereal or material ward is free of its influence.
Yup. Chaos seems as close as can be to an accurate depiction, of what we Christians and Judaists call God. Infinite, untouchable, and at times seemingly indifferent.
I could see that chaos will enact some sort of retribution on Kronos, Kronos is in facts probably like an Ant to a giant where chaos is a giant and the the punishment for hurting their child word probably be far worse than they could ever imagine and every experienced, something like being splinter million pieces on the atomic level but still conscience.
I love Chaos' design in this game, compared to the one in the previous. They became more human, and looking at what seems to be their old form seems to me as Chaos questioning and reflecting upon their past outlook on their place and influence in the world. Their words show not just simple curiosity, but interest and personal belief. It feels like they are starting to understand that some outcomes might be more favorable than others. Not to the point of actively interfering with anything. But to the point of expressing their dislike for it and, possibly, taking measures to prevent it further on their part.
he also looks very similar to Nyx. considering how he grew foundly of her, and was the one other being he was the closest, he choose to shape hs new self based on her because she was his best point of reference to understand a sentient mind, which despite also having one, he doesnt understand it nearly at all.
The character literally states outright that they are very displeased about being deceived, yet everyone here keeps saying they dont care. How would they be upset if they didnt care? Can y'all stop forcing your own headcanon on the character?
@@ethanduncan1646 Honestly, Chronos really fumbled the bag. He could likely have gotten Chaos to willingly give up the fates for imprisonment if he just said he wants to kidnap the Fates to see how reality would be without anyone being affected by their meddling. Then Chaos would not be displeased with him.
Chaos does care about their children in their own way, that much was established in the first game. *edit: Grandchildren I guess. But Nyx was taken too so they definitely have reason to be mad other than just being deceived.
i feel like Chaos is more pissed off about being misled than he is that Chronos used him. like if Chronos went up to him and said "hey, i wanna find the fates and entrap them so i can fck up the gods" Chaos would have been like "sure, they're in this location. have fun" but pissing off the oldest and strongest being in existence. ballsy. stupid. but ballsy. cant wait to see how Chaos helps fck him over.
Chaos and Strife would be best friends according to Eris, and according to Chaos she would be an interesting variable in the current running experment of existence.
chaos isnt stupid. he just likes to play around and create chaos. he wanted to test how legit fates are and it turns out that even the fates could be in a need
I'm a bit peeved that the devs are depicting Chronos incorrectly. Cronus was the Titan Lord and Chronos was husband to Ananke and keeper of time. Two very different beings. But hey, they managed to write in Zagreus and Dionysus so I guess its fine?
Many of the myths contradict each other, merging the two entitites is fine considering this game already has way too many characters and if's not even done.
@anitaremenarova6662 It's not about the amount of characters. It's the fact that Chronos and Cronus are very, very different. They have no interactions in mythology. Just because the name is similar doesn't warrant a complete merge imo.
I son't think they are stupid, although i hope they answer how Chaos was deceived exqctly. Just like Moros says he is upset, I can imagine Nyx wanting to cut contact with her parent once again out of anger (we've seen her how she was with Dusa in Hades 1) because the capture of the Fates made everything much complicated (plus, they are Nyx's daughters too iirc)
can't even blame chaos, it's litterally chaos incarnate, what are you going to tell them "what a mess you made"? that's kinda the whole point besides that, i can't be mad at chaos, for how ancient and all i feel too mutch simpathy for them, they are just too innocent and friendly
@@tylercunanan8255Anubis cannot be omitted since we’d obviously expect the death gods if they went to Egypt, and there would be riots if they didn’t try to make their version of lucario
Chaos: i didn't understand deceit. Comment section: it's not that chaos didn't know about deceit its that theyre removed from the actions and consequences of reality and they're inconsistent in their actions!!! How about we let the game speak for itself?
Being removed from reality is the reason they wouldn't understand deceit though. The agendas and machinations of others are so insignificant to Chaos that the idea of being roped into one of them is alien in itself. Thus not understanding deceit. Rather than taking that one line of dialogue at face value, people are just placing it in context of the character's established personality and motivations throughout both games.
I mean, they live in a void. Obviously they wouldn't know deception and how to read people's true intent given that the only people they've been in contact with thus far were all genuine.
Tbf you get to see him early into the game. It's not an endgame spoiler or anything. Still wish people would use his shrouded sprite given that he has one, oh well.
Chaos isn't stupid. Try Wildly curious and/or Unknowingly experimental. They didn't know what Chronos would kidnap the fates for his own means, but it's shown that they're relatively indifferent to the outcome. Chaos is chaos, and the fates now don't have the chance to screw with peoples lives (both mortal and immortal). While they were deceived thanks to their general lack of care making them unused to noticing clear signs of ill-willed intent, they're looking at every possibility, there's just ones they haven't considered just yet. Do they not care? I'm doubtful, since Chaos expressed their displeasure at the action of being tricked. Emotion in the more negative spectrum are just a bit new for them.
Same reason why everyone speaks english in this game: convenience. It's a game with mainstream appeal, this is an easy way to communicate who he is even to people who aren't greek history nerds.
