The most messed up part about that is that to refuse a proposal from the heir to the throne would have been worse. Apparently that would bring huge humiliation to her and her family if she turned him down. So the nightmare began the moment they met
@@ReaverLordTonus No it wouldn't have. Charles proposed to other women before and they turned him down. Amanda Knatchbull is one. Plenty of people have turned down royals. A lot of people don't want to take on the huge task and responsibility, to be in the media.
Well diana was dead inlove to prince charles since she was a kid. I feel sorry for her all people thought she was living a fairytale but behind the palace she was suffering
One thing I will love about this portrayal is that it shows her as her age. It doesn't try to age her up like some versions, but let's her be a 20 year old. With that the show contrasts her youth and fun with Charles' boring and stuffy behavior. Thank you for letting her be young
I don't think Charles was (is) boring and stuffy, he was just older than her, and it showed. They had nothing in common. He (or rather the character in The Crown) said it in the previous episode -- Diana was still a child.
@@romanawaleczkova1514 exactly! One of my favorite scenes in the show was the one where Anne dishes on Charles and Diana’s marriage. She basically said that it did not work, they were too different. Charles was older than his years, Diana younger than hers. That wasn’t an age gap it was an age chasm. And neither understood the other.
@@lauraschoenborn3544 I completely agree with this. He had different interests because of his age. He was fascinated by intellect and was more comfortable with introvert activities while Diana was youthful, extrovert, and who wasn’t given a chance to discover who she is as a single woman for very long. She didn’t get to enjoy her 20s the way most in the world did.
Apart from the age difference, which was not huge, there was also the social difference. As the daughter of an Earl, Diana was brought up around the royals, but she was by choice a "Sloane Ranger" whereas Charles was by then already a "Young Fogey," to use the terminology of Cosmopolitan magazine. Far from parroting "Monty Python" TV scripts, Charles would recite "Goon Show" dialogue from the radio a couple of decades earlier. He also hung out with comedians of that ilk and vintage, as his aunt Margaret had done.
When Charles didn't knelt down during the whole proposal, defines what respect he has for Diana. Even the whole gang felt confused about it on the phone. Also the scene where she had fun with her friends and when she said goodbyes to her friends when she's leaving her flat for Buckingham, it's like trading fun and supportive bunch of people for stone cold hearted people in the royal family.
I love freedom, but I would gladly give it all up to become a prince. Harry and Meghan are ridiculous. As royals, they had everything. Access to several castles, vacations all over the world, interesting trips, and never having to do real work again. Instead, fake duchess Meghan decided she wants to be a celebrity, and beta male Harry decided to go along. When will the Queen take away their titles? Diana lost her HRH when she divorced.
@@blucolife they had no freedom and had to live with those weird inbred rat people. They made a good decision and their children won’t be affected by those weird royals.
@@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwyxz102 They traded the monarchy for celebrity, honor for being no different than Paris Hilton or Kim Kardashian. Archie won't even be in line for the throne, he'll be just a commoner, although a commoner with rich parents. They had no freedom? They had the perfect job! It's not even hard job like working at Home Depot, or going to war in Afghanistan and coming home in a casket or without a limb or two. Meghan, a mediocre actress that never amounted to anything, could have become Queen. Instead, she's become nothing. Duchess of Sussex? That title means nothing in America. Who's gonna curtsy to her in America? Who's gonna bow to Harry? They gave all that up, and for what? Celebrity? They're pathetic. The Queen loved horses her entire life, she could have a happy life breeding horses, yet she chose the responsibilities of head of State and kept her hobby on the side. The Queen even gave Diana a royal funeral even though it wasn't what she wanted. I admire the Queen, I don't admire rotten Harry and rotten Meghan. Shame on Oprah for interviewing them, they deserve no attention whatsoever.
@@blucolife Oh, what a load of steaming, bubbling horseshit. Archie is so far down the line of succession it makes no practical difference, nor would Harry have ever been King. As for Afghanistan, Harry served his time there and fought in the front line same as his men. As for calling him a 'beta male,' he had the courage to look death in the face on the front line in war, and had the strength of will to pull himself singlehandedly out of drug addiction - he's got more steel in his spine than Tony Stark. Meghan has endured unbelievable levels of hatred and vitriol, including headlines like 'Harry's Half-Breed' and baby Archie being called 'part chimpanzee.' Harry saw how miserable the press made his mother's life and he wasn't about to let them do it to his wife. Simple as that. Take your nasty, small minded bigotry and fuck off. Keep fucking off till you get to Fuckoffville, turn right at Fuckyou and keep going until until you reach Sitdownandshutit.
He did not get down on one knee to propose. Prince Charles is weird, on one hand, he's a rebel, he rejects the aristocracy, and yet he insists on special treatment. Just like Princess Margaret who tells her psychologist to call her ma'am.
@@tomatocultivator9592 He's too arrogant. The Queen herself got on her knees during her coronation, when she prays, and I suppose she would get on her knees to pick a dog. The psychology of Charles is fascinating, he can be humble and self-effacing, and he can be a pompous prick. I sympathize, when he lived in Wales and saw how a normal family behaves, the hugs, the jokes, etc, he realized how much he was missing out. I would love to give him a hug.
@@peachbooks3199 Diana could have chosen a long engagement, instead of marrying him almost right away. I hate how Charles was pressured into a marriage he wasn't ready, with a woman of aristocratic heritage yet commoner in her outlook. I think if Charles had married a princess of Spain or Sweden, it might have worked better, they might have learned to love each other. Then again, Camilla was his one true love. Watching The Crown has made me sympathetic to Charles, I hate how his father treated him, putting him in that barbaric boarding school instead of Eaton, and the Queen herself didn't pay much attention to him.
He doesn't reject it but he consumes it and always wanted to be King as he is now. Well at least y'all King. Charles is like psychopathic serial killer. He's charming thru the lense of he's a Prince now King but he's cunning, unforgiving and selfish thru the lense of he just being a human being. Too many people romanticize the Royals and forget these are people who obtained wealth in ways that were disgusting. To be honest I don't even think he loves Camille as much as he once proclaimed he does. Now that the Queen has died Charles has caught the horse and is screwing up royaly. Just like the Queen thought he would do. As for Camille I think he's caught the horse & could care less for her. Camille's history will always be written as the other woman. And she knows it.
U know what. Actually seeing this, I thought the royals were happy with Charles' choice to marry Diana, BUT were actually mad and sad when at the end he chose to betray her with Camilla. I mean The Queen didn't want to sit in the same carriage until a while ago
Have you seen Philip's letters to Diana? He literally said that they never even thought it would happen "because nobody in the right mind would leave you for Camilla".
@@arthurmead5341 there's various public access letters of the royal family online. Phillip was more tender to Diana's wellbeing at the beginning of the marriage, seeing repeated the act of being an "outsider" marrying in. It eventually broke down after the divorce, but the evidence is there for the beginning.
When the edge of seventeen fades in, my eyes swell up with tears every single time. I am so happy for her that the prince asked her to marry, but she is in for the cruelty of it all until her death 😢 The song is perfect choice 👏👏👏
@@cypress7876 yeah it really did. He dressed her up in a red cap, sun glasses and a leather jacket and they also went clubbing with someone else but i cant remember
I thought the whole phone call thing with Margaret, Queen Mother, QE and Anne was a conference call like today, which in the early 80s hasn't existed yet. Also how she drove back to her place while singing in the car tells me how happy she was deep inside.
Poor poort Diana, so young, so naive, so innocent and in love. If only she knew then what she was letting herself in for. But then again we would never have Prince William...
She was thrown to the wolves by her family who wanted the trophy to bolster their fading aristocracy. He was not the villain of the piece. They were both victims of a ludicrous system.
It breaks my heart how she was just so so happy when Charles proposed... she was living her dream life and she was so thrilled to be the Princess of Wales... this absolute rose of a woman did not deserve any of the pain and hurt she suffered🥺
It's not even a romantic relationship. The Royal Family chooses their children partner through tests and reviews, hardly a romantic nature to the whole thing.
It wasn't really like that in real life. According to Andrew Morton in his biography Diana: Her True Story, he arranged for himself and Diana to have a dinner together in his palace apartment, and it was afterwards while they were walking around the old nursery rooms that he asked her to marry him. Diana's response was not ideal - she giggled because she thought he was joking. (I mean, that must have been a bit off-putting for Charles - you propose to someone and they laugh at you) It was then that Charles said he was serious and offered her time to think about it. But Diana had been raised to believe that marrying a wealthy toff was the best she could ever aspire to, and accepted on the spot. So, in my opinion, Charles was the one trying to do the "right thing" (organising a romantic dinner, trying to treat the moment with the seriousness it deserves, and kindly realising she may want to think over such a major decision) and Diana was the one being wtf, what with the laughing at him and the impulsive accepting.
This was so pure. How happy she was, her friends' reactions and support... I wonder if any of them were able to keep in touch after things turned sour.
Nothing wrong with prostitutes, it's the world's oldest profession. Nothing wrong with being Australian either, their country actually has a higher literacy rate and employment rate, a lower crime rate than England, higher household income, better weather and a more stable economy. Bit snobby of Margaret, really.
I love how this shows that she felt like she was on top of the world...and that was the last time she’d ever feel that again before everything went down hill. All because she said “yes”.
Diana felt like a rose to me. A beautiful, colourful and live rose at the beginning. Then it eventually wilted away, losing its life, and it died in the end.
Charles was always looking for sympathy due to he was in a arranged marriage, but that's no excuse for the cruel, abusive way he treated Diana and tried to destroy her as a human being. It wasn't her fault. She didn't know he was being forced to marry her. She thought he loved her & wanted to marry her. No excuse for that cruel, selfish poor example of a man. NO EXCUSE!
Charles never looked for sympathy. It was Diana who blabbed to the media and sought the sympathy from the world for her marriage problems. Why is it that the Diana Cult always distort everything. Furthermore Charles was not cruel or abusive to Diana.
The amount of drama, horror and hatred that would have been prevented had The Family allowed Charles and Camilla to marry in the first place! Diana would probably still be alive due to lack of press attention. Charles & Camilla would be in a marriage where they genuinely love each other deeply. The public would have minimal hatred towards them. The only downside is the family may not be so modern thinking and sympathetic to emotion. They may not admit to it but Diana changed the family for the better and instilled a sense of compassion rather than "Silence is my duty. It's my duty!"
Oh my God. Looking back on it, the whole thing has the mark of a nonstarter. They’re so different. She’s so young and immature. He’s so young and clueless. Doesn’t even get on one knee. That’s insane
Charles had the Opportunity to become a Great King alongside with his Charismatic n Enigmatic Wife PRINCESS DIANA.But like his Grandfather King Edward before Him, SCREWED IT ALL...Also For the sake of a Divorcee.
History repeating itsself but the Uncle Abdicated as Charles should have done after divorcing Diana His sister should have taken over by his mother changing the rules like she has done for Charlotte.But no poor Charles! ! She wasnt strong enough ! Only good for shaking hands and attending😮 charity dos Some job well paid look at their wealth.DISGUSTING ! WHEN PEOPLE OF THEIR COUNTRY AND countries who have fought and given their lives for their WARS .What has been done for those countries NOTHING These MONARCHS HAVE RECEIVED GIFTS WORTH BILLIONS THST SHOULD BE GIVEN BACK.THIEVES !!!!! NO CONSCIENCES HEADS OF A SO CALLED CHRISTIAN church.
It wasn't just his family that was pressing Charles to marry someone, anyone. The newspapers played that game too, and presented us with the life story of any woman that was in his vicinity. They presented a whole parade of European Royals, somehow concentrating on Princess Astrid of Luxembourg. Latterly they began to get nasty. When he published a fairy story for children the Daily Express called him a "Fairy Prince." The right-wing papers also got worked up about Charles being forced to marry an Asian or African woman, which we see now had to have been a figment of someone's imagination.
She was literally still like a child. The scene where she’s driving back to London in her own little first car, dressed very much like a teenager in bright colours and animal prints, singing and dancing along to the music on the radio… it just shows how young and immature she was … and how different she was from Charles… it’s so sad 😢❤
