Cheap Speed: How to get 25% more Power & Torque from a VW Golf GTI Mk6 Stage 2 Tune 

ebay downpipe brah

Cameron Lapha they are at a really high altitude which sucks for anyone who wants to make power

QuickHand Cam It is pure garbage. COBB is totally trash , I’m on a Revo stage 2 with half those bolt ons (literally an intake and a downpipe) pushing 298 crank - give or take 265 wheel

KrypTiicGaming yea right

KrypTiicGaming standard Leon fr 2.0tsi runs 190 brake. 260 ish with a hybrid map

Ikr I'm making way over that on my stage 2

Cobb sucks in VW world though, they should use APR.

i was shocked at the times to 60mph and the power gains i thought he must've been talking about when it was stock lol

Elevation is not the problem

Haha Yes that was Roman and I!

Dieselgate tho!

+Samay Sahoo I'll let you in on a secret. Most "dieselgate" TDI owners don't really care for getting their car "fixed" the so called fix reduces both fuel economy and torque. Most just want to be left alone.

Exactly! Plus my DPF and all the other filters got clogged, I ended up having them removed and just running a straight pipe from the turbo back to the OEM muffler.

My friend has one and he's not "fixing" his either. Luckily we don't emission test in ohio so he has no need to.

all the VWs with diesel gate still don't add up to trucks rolling coal. I bet my diesel is cleaner than your gas car!

Im curious too. I think “1 mile above the sea level” got to do something with the power!

those aren't swirls they are holograms caused by bad rotary polishing

The best way to Polish a car is to put it on by hand and take it off with a buffing wheel. No swirls guarteed.

Yes, and even worse on black cars.... :d

That whistle is pretty common and is not always the DV I unfortunately listened to people like you when I did a ECS cold air on my mk6 gti and everyone said it's the DV so I ordered a GFB DV+ for it and installed it. Still there... eventually got around to a car meet and met a guy who had a fully built GTI and ensured me that the noise I'm hearing is the harmonics inside the cold air from the intake.

@@RC_Trailblazers As anything when it comes to cars "your mileage may vary". Everyone's setup is different but I wanted to share personal experience from my setup. Typically upgrading to an updated DV valve fixes the issue for a lot of people and helps get some hp back as a bonus. It's a little strange your car still has the weird whistle.I watched your video and it's really loud and apparent. Mine only did it briefly between like 4-5k RPM. Have you looked at reviews on your intake to see if other people had the same issue? Also, if the positioning is adjustable at all, I would try adjusting whatever I could to try and cancel out the harmonics. Weird how only the mk6 has that weird noise. My mk7 R never had that issue. I'm assuming it's mk6 turbo specific.

yes it will - better underpinnings. but "ya run what ya bring"

There is a good amount of people who own gtis that run cobb now. Me included.Plus they tune Porsches and BMWs.

91Tricky I've met plenty of people running the others even eurodyne but never any german guys running COBB. I'm guessing you came from subaru or ford before now? Only reason I'd see anyone choosing COBB over the others.

Cobb released their software in march for gtis so that is probably why you don't see many. No I didn't come from Ford or Subaru, I owned a chevy cobalt before this. lol I bought it because it was the cheapest offering for tunes. And I liked the extra features that the accessport provided. Plus once you buy the accessport all of the tunes are free which is nice.

91Tricky lol the access port is $650 on COBB's website. A tune from every other brand is $600 and it's $450 from eurodyne. For $900 from eurodyne you get the tuner which allows you to custom tune yourself. COBB only increases 34hp with a stage 2 tune. APR and everyone else is drawing 80-100hp with stage 2.

Yes its $650 but you get every stage. I am stage 1 now and its free to go to stage 2. No additional fee. And you have protunes, if want more power for around $200 which will give better gains over the COBB OTS tunes.

Stage 2 with stock turbo doesn't need the intake, actually hurts your low end torque. Can do way better with airbox mod. I'm Unitronic Stage 2, in Longmont area with a sport back A3 and could smoke this GTI

Only TDIs have the limiter.

+Abe Froman I can verify 2014 DSG Eos hits the torque limiter w stage2 Eurodyne.

You can say TDis only have it, but I experienced exactly this on my own mk6 GTI.

Tim Flohr yes mine is 14 DSG Eos TSI and yes torque limiter kicks in

My cobb stage 2 GTI is pushing 310 torque to the wheels, DSG is not tuned, there is no "torque limiter" and the clutches aren't slipping.

Justin Walters agreed and don’t forget the .14tsi golf 👌🏽

Benjamin Edwards yeah altitude causes serious power loss. He claims in the video 15 on turbo I believe that's correct at a mile over sea level. So back where I live that would be nearly 300hp car.

APR would have much better options. Cobb does Focus and Subaru and other stuff, not VW.

Cobb isn't a joke with other brands. Let's keep perspective here.

Eurodyne

there is no DV tube. the DV is mounted on the turbo. otherwise, they would have mentioned they installed a DV relocation kit

VWs don't use an electronic boost controller??

Don't need one. the ECU retune takes care it boost control

Brodey Dover yes they do have electronic recirculating valve (or boost controller)

Yeah that's what I thought. I never mentioned tube either.... DV for intake side boost and wg for exhaust side boost

they do

should've gone with APR or REVO and you'll get a factory like tune but with much more power.

May have more to do with the exhaust. Going from 2.5 to 3 inch often compromises smooth engine response.

+smgs921 c2 tune

Yep. Various tunes effect the power band in different ways. Some people actually prefer that "jerk" because it throws your head back in your seat a bit. Kind Ipod a torque illusion with the GTI since comparable tunes offer the same hp gains.

In some applications a smaller diameter pipe can increase performance due to back pressure. In an engine like this, the turbo provides more than enough back pressure. I've seen 4 cyl turbo engines with 4+ inch exhausts behind the turbo that do not hurt the performance.

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type then drink... just a suggestion

if he drove down any suburban roads in Texas his car would be complete toast XD

k&n style filters let in micro particals of dirt. much more than oem style. this alone will wear an engine more.

What about the ones that go inside the original filter box?

I'm not sure on the COBB tune they used which is extremely uncommon to use on german cars. Most people will go with APR, REVO, or GIAC which make more gains than the COBB anyway but people have put 100-200k on these tunes with no difference in reliability. Again those are more trusted in the german community than COBB. As far as filters I'd go with an APR or Neuspeed intake. You'll gain a few HP and they sound great!

it voids your warranty

Jeff K not necessarily true. Some vw dealers will flash APR tunes and cover warranty work as well as many people have still been covered after a tune. However it is a gamble some dealers wont cover you.

yes

Agreed, but personally I like the exterior/interior design and feel of the MK6 better, however it cannot beat a newer platform and new gen of engine.

only the VERY strictest emissions testing will fail it...PLUS simple to reinstall for testing!

I'm assuming that's 214 at the wheels and they're a mile above sea level.

Yes. Same amounts NA and turbo

my 2014 does NOT lose power like NA motors... Only big inclines caused downshifts .. even then I could accelerate uphill.