CHEAP SYNTH FX?! - I like wasting money lol

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This is what happens when you shop on Amazon as much as I do. You guy suckered into buying stuff you don't need. At least this time I made a video lol.
So what do you get when you buy a cheap multi-fx pedal and combine it with a synth? Let's find out.
TLDR: Just use a plugin lol
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@CtrlSaltDelete 3 года назад

I'd love to see more pedal stuff here! No one demos pedals with synths, for a multi-effects unit I bought a Zoom MS-70 which sorted me out for modulations and reverbs and a little clone of the Proco Rat for distortion and while they're both not perfect they're per dollar a bigger impact on my sound than basically anything else. Every synth should have one or two pedals to really expand their sonic possibilities.

@NoirEtBlancVie 3 года назад

Glad you pointed this out, let me start to look into more pedal stuff, it’s WAY cheaper for me to get my hands on them than synths honestly.

@CtrlSaltDelete 3 года назад

@@NoirEtBlancVie That would be amazing! Don't change your style or go too far out of pocket though of course! I (and we, I'm sure!) love your work whatever the topic, and I expect you could get a lot of mileage from your existing gear :)

@JohnLRice 3 года назад

I think there are a lot of synths+pedal demos out there but they can be hard to find in the ocean of guitar+pedal demos! ;-) I've even been known to do a few (shameless self promotion alert! 🤨😁) but my style is different from Noir's as they are usually less personable and instructive and more just "watch and listen as I fiddle with this stuff" videos. lol Here's one for instance ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qQjxCJw9dA8.html

@jgoney 3 года назад

+1 for the MS-70CDR. Great bang for the bunch, and very synth friendly

@gautrstafr 3 года назад

If you can get an MS-100BT, its the best of that line. Plus you can get an iOS app and swap algorithms via bluetooth, fortunately they have opened up all algorithms and you no longer need to buy them.

@jvaranx 3 года назад

I like using guitar effects pedals for synths, too. Donner has a lot of cheap ($30-60) ones that are decent.

@jubeijackson6602 3 года назад

Nice! Decent in terms of subjective sound or decent in terms of execution? Which ones do you like specifically?

@jvaranx 3 года назад

@@jubeijackson6602 Subjective sound. I haven't tried all of them, but the Yellow Fall Delay is good and so is the Dirty Mouse (a clone of ProCo Rat).

@logarhythmic6859 3 года назад

@@jvaranx I've got the Yellow Fall as well, and it's not bad. Just wanted a delay, didn't care for any bells or whistles, and it perfectly satisfies my needs.

@sheepkillindog 3 года назад

Cheap delay I recommend the Gauss Delay from TC Electronic. You can get them around or under 50 bucks all day. It’s really nice

@johnruschulte2593 3 года назад

I got a pedal like this and I immediately noticed the silicon tubing around the thin Volca style knobs and purchased 6 feet of tubing and put it on every knob like that on my gear and couldn’t be happier. I got 1/4 inch inner diameter 3/8 inch outer diameter and cut them a shade longer than the knob. You have to wiggle the piece on. It makes the knobs feel more precise and better. And it’s about a dollar a foot.

@LukezyM 3 года назад

I wouldn’t go below Zoom Ms-70cdr. And it’s stereo in/out.

@SquarepulseMusic 3 года назад

I always feel like the ms70cdr is a hidden gem. Seriously my go to for mfx when I’m away from the studio

@anonymoushuman8344 3 года назад

Someone on a tight budget with a starter synth and no effects yet might find this $50 box extremely useful. It might be a big improvement over having no delay, reverb, or chorus.

@night_speed 3 года назад

I really like the base tc electronics pedals. If you get them used for about 40 bucks each you can get the Gauss tape delay which is my favorite delay pedal, the skyverb reverb pedal and the june60 chorus. What else do you need? Maybe a more shimmery reverb? They have that too. I just love the form factor and dead simple controls.

@sheepkillindog 3 года назад

I responded to another comment where I recommended the tc gauss delay! I love that pedal and very affordable. Cheers!!

@night_speed 3 года назад

@@sheepkillindog it's a great pedal. I got mine on sale for 40 bucks.

@VictorSteiner 3 года назад

Korg NTS-1 was cheap but sounds pretty good as an effects unit.

@PulzarTZ 3 года назад

For me the Korg NTS-1 is the ultimate multieffect. The customisability is incredible, the effects sounds great and it's so cheap, that I'm planning to buy one for each of my instruments. NTS-1 for the WIN!

@Joel-re1jz 3 года назад

NTS-1 sounds great, to me it even sounds better than my Zoom Multistomp pedal

@maikrobin 3 года назад

Are you using it directly or as a send and return? I try to use it as send&return fx on my mixer, but unfortunately I only get some noise back :( Maybe you have some advice? ;)

@Joel-re1jz 3 года назад

@@maikrobin I chain it through audio in/audio out. If you are getting noise then I would use a dedicated power bank for the power supply, sometimes the USB can introduce noise.

@maikrobin 3 года назад

@@Joel-re1jz oh ok! I´ll try that, thanks man!!

@Metamerist625 3 года назад

@@Joel-re1jz yeah I second this, sometimes I get noise too. Cheap ground loop isolators from amazon can help too. Depends what's plugged in to what though as you say.

@josephf7306 3 года назад

Anyone looking for a comically bad reverb should try out the built-in reverb on the Akai Miniak synth. It's SO bad you can't not laugh when you hear it.

@je7647 3 года назад

could tell the difference with this unit, not saying it was bad tho. there are some cheap pedals that are IMO just as good or very close to high end brand name pedals

@gidd 3 года назад

Hey ,I'm new to synths what's the difference between a synthesizer and a controller

@je7647 3 года назад

@@gidd a controller is something that is used to play notes, usually (not all cases) it will be a keyboard that you will attach to the MIDI input of a synth you want to play so the synthesiser will receive notes and you will use to control the synthesiser. a synthesiser will be the thing that is actually creating the sound as opposed to the controller, for example if you bought a synth with a keyboard, you would not usually need a controller for it. hope that helps

@gidd 3 года назад

@@je7647 so a controller is similar to a midi keyboard?

@je7647 3 года назад

@@gidd a midi keyboard is a controller.

@gidd 3 года назад

@@je7647 oh I thought the video was on synth controllers

@defjeff2907 3 года назад

Thanks Noir! I'd spend $100 on Korg Nts-1 anyday for the effects alone, but you get a synth too!

@sunrespecter9874 3 года назад

Loved this comparison! The pricier pedals definitely had more depth to their sound, but the multi-fx sounds decent and it's got kind of a charming look to it.

@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 3 года назад

I've been building a collection of Zoom MS70CDR's, now have 3. For the money, the best for synths. Fully programmable and you decide the chain order, though must be in series. Sound design with this pedal is deep when you consider all the options. I don't think Zoom has any competition. Sonic quality is very good, depending on your skill at programming effects and processers. The included pre-sets are all bad, I think this is why the controversy over this pedal, design your own specifically for the song and instruments and you will be very happy, and so will your bank account.

@Wil_Dsense 3 года назад

Good advice! I might pick one up then... so, did you get your blackbox yet? 🎶

@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 3 года назад

@@Wil_Dsense Yes. It is the only piece of gear I have purchased in 35 years where I wasn't disappointed about the sound or features. The BB exceeded my expectations as a sampler finally for the musician.

@GuitarManiac1975 3 года назад

For that money, it sounds surprisingly ok... as long as do not want to be a “Pro” (like me) cheap Multi- FX can at least give you an impression of how FX can spice up your creations.

@32ndBrother 3 года назад

Not something I would use but it’s not bad for someone just getting started.

@AMTunLimited 2 года назад

You should check out 60 Cycle Hum. He's got an entire "Afford-a-board" series where he looks at/sifts through these cheap Amazon pedals. He's made some pretty good boards

@Stadsjaap 3 года назад

Man, if a verb can't make a Grandmother sound good...

@midicleric.derekcrockett 3 года назад

I just picked up an old Korg Kaoss Pad Quad. For effects on the fly. Luvin' it.

@brokenscart7989 3 года назад

The NTS1 is so good. It blows the MS70 out of the water for reverb and delay.

@stever3788 3 года назад

I have a Line6 M13 and that is really ideal for a synth setup with stereo I/O and good algorithms for just about every category. I turn off the crappy fx on my synths and use the Line6 instead. Plus it is an excellent midi controller for software looping plus two midi expression pedals. I'd still recommend the M13 despite it being older, the new HX Effects is good but smaller and fewer switches and knobs, though it has the new capacitive touch switches and more modern patch storage.

@AMTunLimited 2 года назад

On that ocean verb, a "shimmer" verb has an octave higher mixed in, and it's reeeeeeeeally hard to get right, especially for non-guitar sounds.

@theyellowroom5026 3 года назад

Effects for synths should be stereo, at least the output, preferably input too. It often makes all the difference. It could be cheap or meant for guitar or Senegales banjo or whatever, doesn't matter. That's why the Zoom MS-70 CDR and the Korg NTS-1 are so popular.

@l1fef0rm 2 года назад

I love stereo rotary engine effects. Good for a headspin.

@l1fef0rm 2 года назад

I like some of the Donner pedals a lot. Yellow Fall Delay is wonderful.

@asher1303 3 года назад

Recently picked up a Donner Revecho for my Moog DFAM and it adds exactly what I wanted, a bit of ambiance with the reverb and the delay helps create more rhythmic intricacies

@iNuchalHead 3 года назад

I rate this video se7en severed heads out of ten.

@SyncdAlien 3 года назад

Very interesting, thank you!

@187onasimp 3 года назад

Pedals are like synths... only bad one is one that doesn't turn on.

@NoirEtBlancVie 3 года назад

So true, it’s just another color on the palette 🎨

@traitortotheliving 3 года назад

Not to shabby for a cheap effect option. People always seem to complain about pedals that are mono which never makes sense to me. Just add a stereo out pedal at the end of your effects chain and it converts the signal to stereo. I dig the pedal content man I’d enjoy seeing more like it from you. Cheers 🍻

@KattKirsch 3 года назад

I love my weird boutique pedals - I have a LifePedal and Korg Miku in my central signal chain - but I'd be lying if I didn't say my Zoom $100 special did a surprising amount of heavy lifting. Any thoughts on the Dust Collector? And remind me to bug you about the Sledge on Thursday, we were talking about Waldorfs and it got me thinking about it.

@mirllewist3086 3 года назад

Funny! I recently bought two cheap a$$ Donner pedals and sync them by ear to get a decent approximation of the Brian May multi delay effect. The "tape" delay setting sounds like mud, but the "digital" setting is clean enough to sound as good as Brian May's actual tape delays on Brighton Rock etc. Have fun!

@ChrisSmout 3 года назад

Interesting video and a peek into the world of guitar pedals. I can't seem to find Amuzik in UK Amazon but Donner have a couple of multi effects pedals in the identical case but with slightly different effects (a distortion or high-gain instead of the roto-engine here). I always rate Donner's mini pedals (clones of Mooer ones as I understand it) - they aren't going to set the world on fire but they offer some good bread-and-butter effects at a low price.

@jvaranx 3 года назад

I've actually read Donner and Mooer are the *same*, not just "clones". The circuit boards inside are identical, except for the branding. Most Donner pedals are actually clones of older, more classic pedals. There's a list of some of them somewhere online.

@ChrisSmout 3 года назад

@@jvaranx curiouser and curiouser...I know cloning is rife in this area but I didn't realise the two were identical.

@maxmatson1578 3 года назад

Incidentally, but related. I just special ordered a "micro freak" and waiting for it to be delivered.🎹🎧💫😵😎👌 Thanks for the video you did on it!👍🙏

@SisterRose 3 года назад

more useful for guitar than keys, but there's some amazing fuzz pedals for next to nothing out there too. I think one was a Cuvave fuzz. And there was another that was like... I forget hte name of it but it was some sort of a MOSFET distortion that had a big muff vibe.

@ivon1688 3 года назад

The Zoom G1on cost my like $30, but I wouldn't recommend it, it sounds gritty but not in a good way.

@legitimatefrenzy 3 года назад

Hey noir have you tried the empress zoia? I think you would enjoy

@samecoff2788 3 года назад

I’ve seen those pedals on Amazon and always wondered. Thanks for helping me save my money. Great video!

@synthseeker 3 года назад

Well, you made me go try to buy an Atreides. :P Sanity pulled me out of the GAS tailspin.

@jessetaldotcom 3 года назад

Good shootout! The budget pedal should be a great addition in a pedal-based sound design setup in which multiple pedals are engaged. In situations like that, it may help to be able to simply fill an effect ‘gap’ on the cheap while not compromising too much on quality.

@serenemachine9110 3 года назад

I love the honesty and chill mood of your videos. I'm starting to watch them more and more. Good job!

@codypower4298 3 года назад

the roto engine was kinda nice ! delay was solid, and the reverb was pretty bad ! could be fine for just a splash of it though ?

@gratedebate 3 года назад

It does have it's own character. Someone will make good use out of this.

@rars0n 3 года назад

I just went off on an Atreides tangent thanks to this video. What a cool pedal! I agree about the delay and phaser. Both sound pretty good. I could still tell which was which pretty easily, but it sounds like a decent cheap option.

@edrosa3485 3 года назад

I don't know if it's the cheap bone conductive headset I'm using but that box is crunchier than a bag of doritos.

@DataBroth 3 года назад

that's a cute little pedal, pretty funky looking

@SquarepulseMusic 3 года назад

How was the reverb? Totally digital trash?? Delay and phaser were not bad but I felt the difference - seemed like the Way Huge pedals had more clarity. Thanks for doing this. I've seen those pedal so many times and have always wondered as a fellow sometimes (but not always ALL HAIL THE PROPHET 6) cheapo.

@NoirEtBlancVie 3 года назад

The Reverb was strange, some high pitched resonance spike that always showed up, usable with lower mid range sounds, but anything crispy it gets ugly. Delay and other effects not so bad!

@SquarepulseMusic 3 года назад

@@NoirEtBlancVie great to know! For now I’ll stick with the zoom ms-70cdr. Definitely may look at grabbing one of these for a knockaround or back up tho!

@barrnycharlton8951 3 года назад

does it matter if pedal shave a line level or not

@WildernessMusic_GentleSerene 3 года назад

Dependability is a BIG issue with me, and the reason I don't buy Cheap Behringer and Alesis gear. This device may catch fire, or fail in less than a year. A new manufacturer will need long term testing otherwise $50 bucks may be the most expensive gear you ever purchased and used for a month.

@u4yk 3 года назад

Behringer has been stepping up their build quality the last few years. I also have an HR-16 that I've banged the shit out of over the years that still runs like a champ. Most Alesis gear is fine unless you're buying their electronic drums.

@surrealchemist 3 года назад

I thought this looked similar to the stuff I see on this donner site I keep getting advertisements for on social media. Sure enough they have a selection of different ones that look like that with that same case and weird knobs. I wouldn't be surprised if you open it up and they are just using the same common effects processing chips that most of these cheap pedals use.

@NoirEtBlancVie 3 года назад

Yeah, that Donner company has been infesting my inbox with their stuff. They’re just some random company (though I think they’re called Grey market) mass producing gear from pedals to midi controllers. I don’t get their aim, I think they do knockoffs...I just put their emails into Spam lol.

@surrealchemist 3 года назад

@@NoirEtBlancVie I think even Amazon has gotten into the cheap pedal game. There are some vids of people who opened theirs up and it had the same insides as other low end brands. You could probably search up alibababa, talk to a seller and work out making a pedal with your own branding on it and maybe even customize the hardware design somewhat if you are buying in large enough quantities. It’s been going on a while for other electronics, but it seems to be creeping more into the music gear world more now.

@NoirEtBlancVie 3 года назад

I honestly can’t wait to review the Alibaba synth, I looked on Wish for one, but didn’t find anything say a year ago. Everything is just dirt cheap these days if you look hard enough right hehe

@theboywhochosethesea 3 года назад

@Joshua Kleiner there's obviously a bunch made up in the same factories and rebranded, started out with Joyo and a few others, someone must made Amazon a good offer to have their name on. Some of them aren't too bad, but some are terrible. On the plus side you can have a decent board for cheap now if you mix and match a bit. Synths are getting the way pedals were a few years back in popularity, can't see it being too long until we get knock offs of volca type instruments...