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Cheap vs Expensive Hunting Rifles: Ya don't always get what ya pay for! 

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@backfire
@backfire 2 года назад
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@lorenzotelleria1858
@lorenzotelleria1858 2 года назад
Ohh sweet!!! I am dying to see that 7mm PRC working and performing!!
@Perry2186
@Perry2186 2 года назад
you do realize left handed people exist right sling if sling stud were all on the side it puts the bolt straight in to your back!!!!
@jeffwood6136
@jeffwood6136 2 года назад
@@Perry2186 most put the QD inserts on both sides so you can sling it to whichever works for you.
@philipjones7094
@philipjones7094 2 года назад
I have a Ruger American predator and have never gotten very good groups with it and i even put a Vortex Strike Eagle on it but still no good... Any tips
@ajd.804
@ajd.804 2 года назад
Backfire: could you do a review on the Norma Bondstrike Extreme 6,5 Creedmoor 143gr and seeking ph2 havoc rifle?
@jheasley1
@jheasley1 2 года назад
I’m 60 years old, been hunting since I was a young teenager. Also been a firearms instructor since 1985, a lot of things in this video you mentioned are going to be very valuable to a lot of people, nice 👍👍
@wellgreatengineeringltd3884
@wellgreatengineeringltd3884 2 года назад
I am a year or 2 older and my 12 gauge Ted Williams shot gun works just fine. paid 129 bucks for it. Thank you.
@erickvides3689
@erickvides3689 Год назад
@@wellgreatengineeringltd3884 probably has been gathering dust old timer.
@trueseeing
@trueseeing 2 года назад
The titles thing is a scam I'm sorry to say mate, the Scottish parliament is on record as explicitly not recognising people with just land as Lords. This service is the equivalent of those 'Name a Star' scams where it's just recorded on a piece of paper somewhere but nobody actually recognises it or calls it that.
@doubleutubefan5
@doubleutubefan5 2 года назад
About time someone sees it as it is
@Notjay95
@Notjay95 Год назад
It’s legit enough for the type of bozo that wants to call himself a lord
@toxixbob8375
@toxixbob8375 Год назад
@@Notjay95 fr, only people that are dumb would actually spend money on those
@amonmamarth8744
@amonmamarth8744 Год назад
@@Notjay95…on his “douche-dating site” 😂
@amnobody117
@amnobody117 Год назад
How much did it cost you? 🤔 😝
@graynotescartridgebox
@graynotescartridgebox 2 года назад
There is certainly a lot more in a rifle than meets the eye. Reliability is often over-looked. Too much emphasis is placed in precision. The average shooter could win most any PRS match if they could maintain 1-1.25 MOA in all positions. Few shots on game take sub-MOA shooting. But it’s the focus of many. I’ll take an MOA gun with consistent groups and consistent cold-bore over a half minute gun that always throws a flyer cold-bore before it settles in. Many times, it is the reliability, consistency, and ease of use that make or break a hunt.
@graynotescartridgebox
@graynotescartridgebox 2 года назад
@@TrolloTV it’s a system; impossible to be isolated.
@OneSvT
@OneSvT 2 года назад
@@graynotescartridgebox you think shooters who take PRS matches seriously are average? Let alone a rifle shooting 1.25 MOA at best would take the win?
@owned323
@owned323 2 года назад
Man lemme tell ya, I have been shooting competition for a couple of years in F-Class and PRS and my rifles consistently shoot 1/4 MOA or better and there are still PRS stages that I can't clear due to the positional instability. If you were to take a 1.25 MOA rifle to a PRS match, getting top 80 would be a chore. Those guys aren't average shooters, they are far above average shooters. A pro actually tested this theory and came to a match with a hunting rifle that shot sub-MOA. He usually placed top 5, but he barely made the top 60 that day.
@owned323
@owned323 2 года назад
There is a reason PRS Setup's can cost upwards of 10,000$ not just accuracy but positional stability and balance are the biggest factors.
@graynotescartridgebox
@graynotescartridgebox 2 года назад
@@OneSvT I didn’t say say they take 1.25 MOA rifles. I said if THEY maintain 1.25 MOA. It’s a system between shooter, rifle, and ammunition. They cannot be separated. The shooter is the limiting factor.
@spile7
@spile7 Год назад
I could go the rest of my life without hearing someone say “price point” again. Its a useless phrase that realtors use to sound smarter than they are.
@gregbeck906
@gregbeck906 6 месяцев назад
Agreed.
@broderickcamel1701
@broderickcamel1701 2 года назад
" and the award for the most random commercial plug goes to.."
@jonpoyner3182
@jonpoyner3182 Год назад
Your ad at the beginning kinda discredits you dude. Look into your sponsors if you don't want to come off as a scammer or unknowlegable on the things you talk about, at best
@thebigskykid
@thebigskykid 2 года назад
“Don’t drop guns” words to live by
@carguy3028
@carguy3028 2 года назад
I bought a Howa rifle for $350 in 2019 and it’s a great rifle, it was more but went on sale. It still works great,
@iDreamOfWeenie
@iDreamOfWeenie 2 года назад
I still rock the same Howa 1500 in .30-06 I bought in 2011 for like $330 and she still shoots lights-out.
@theanswriz42
@theanswriz42 2 года назад
Love my Howa. Definitely an undervalued rifle in the US at least.
@YankeeWoodcraft
@YankeeWoodcraft 2 года назад
I hunt with a sub-$400 Remington 783 in .270 that's topped off with a $200 Leupold VX-2 scope and I never fail to fill my tags and almost always get heart shots. In fact, I've gone on to name my rifle "Formality" because it's just a matter of time before I drag something out of the woods and I've hunted in near 90 degree temps all the way down to sub-zero conditions, on sunny days, in the rain and under snow & ice storms. Life is easy; Learn your weapon, buy from reputable manufacturers, use quality ammo, take care of your equipment and aim small. We're in the golden age of firearms manufacturing right now and the men who settled this country would kill for a $400 bolt action rifle that can be picked up at Walmart within minutes that we take for granted these days.
@TheFlyingZulu
@TheFlyingZulu 2 года назад
Golden age indeed... I often think about how people in the 1500-1700 would view the quality of our modern day firearms AND how many we can afford to buy.
@JohnDoe-xu6uu
@JohnDoe-xu6uu 2 года назад
Not all 783s are the same the heavy barrel threaded with tac bolt handle ones were 400 plus a couple years ago. Basically sub $600.
@tommybrannon
@tommybrannon Год назад
I got an old Remington 7mm 770 after I returned from Iraq... all I wanted was a rifle to deer hunt with. I tried about three different brands and found what it liked and it has been one of my favorites!
@YankeeWoodcraft
@YankeeWoodcraft Год назад
@@tommybrannon As long as the deer don't get back up and say that it doesn't count because it's not a $2000 rifle, who cares, right? Hitting them right with a $400 rifle is just as good as hitting them right with a $2000 rifle.
@Imyourfather225
@Imyourfather225 Год назад
Exactly, I know several hunters that use the old Winchester 70 and kill animals year after year, is this model considered a cheap, medium, high?
@calebmartinez3805
@calebmartinez3805 2 года назад
Man I have the opportunity to own really hi end rifles custom built to my desired, when I was single,but I tell you what (tikka rifles are hard to beat) they shoot so well and is my rifle to go any were now,for the fraction of the cost.
@mulekicker-ut5jl
@mulekicker-ut5jl 2 года назад
I know my sako is better than my old savage lol
@veteranironoutdoors8320
@veteranironoutdoors8320 2 года назад
Those sling studs are traditionally placed there for a reason. Your gonna have a pack on your back, not a rifle. You sling the rifle over your shoulder. Its also there so you can take a more accurate shot using a sling wrap hold.
@tacticalmattfoley
@tacticalmattfoley 2 года назад
Exactly.
@jessewalby6631
@jessewalby6631 2 года назад
Yeah, I can't think of a reason I'd have my rifle on my back. Pain to get it ready in time when I need it. Off the shoulder it's pretty fast.
@milsurprifles
@milsurprifles 2 года назад
Only rifle I ever had fall off my shoulder was one that had QD sling attachments. The top QD let go, for whatever reason, and the rifle dropped on a big flat rock muzzle down. 😫 I’m a huge fan of sling studs for hunting rifles.
@theodorehunter4765
@theodorehunter4765 2 года назад
Cheaper rifles tend to use an older style stock, back when iron sights were more common. That's why you have issues getting a good cheek weld on cheaper rifles. The idea was to get your eye in line with a sight that is maybe half an inch above the top of the barrel. Now, the vast majority of bolt action rifles don't even come with iron sights or even a way to easily add them, yet they still use the old style of stock. Most don't even come with a rail to mount a scope on. Once you've added a scope base, rings and a scope, you have a sight that is likely an inch higher than what iron sights would have been. Personally, I don't like stocks that don't have tool-less adjustable LOP and cheek piece. If you have one of these cheap stocks and you can't afford to buy a better one, you can always build up the cheek piece with some craft foam and slick-backed tape. It looks ugly as hell, but it works.
@brandtbuchanan5526
@brandtbuchanan5526 2 года назад
Great advice. Going to you on a rifle with a great stock that fits you well you'll never compromise again.
@Predalien195
@Predalien195 Год назад
The problem too with the rifle shown is the 20 MOA flat base rail sitting on top. A typical 2 piece weaver mount more commonly found on rifles offers a lower scope mount thus eliminating this issue entirely. It's partly why on many Mossbergs like the one displayed they ditched the one piece rail and went back to a 2 piece mount.
@caseysmith544
@caseysmith544 Год назад
I have a gun that has ability to have both scope and a stock on, my Remmington (forgot number) Varmint Hunter 243. The gun was made for hunting varmints and coyote/deer where the last two need a scope but some other larger varmint/small game they need sights like fox, badger and others. I do want to remove the sight since I have a not great Nikon one for anyone with glasses on even though it was supposed to be okay for that. At a place I can hunt now, I can use my Youth Remington 870 with wood stock as the deer come that close.
@Chevsilverado
@Chevsilverado 10 месяцев назад
You can also make your own kydex adjustable cheek riser for cheap, or even buy a nice one for under $50. I wish these cheap rifle manufacturers would modernize their stock shapes, they’d be so much better. But that would cut into sales of their premium rifles so I think it won’t be changing any time soon. But some company like savage could absolutely destroy the competition in budget rifles if they made the cheek piece higher and flattened the fore end, and added these quick sling attachments on the side. It cost virtually nothing and it’d be and excellent gun.
@portugal5698
@portugal5698 Год назад
Great vid, but that cringe intro that even you yourself clearly knew is a giant pyramid scheme . Understand why you did it though as a businessman myself.
@sylverbullit7192
@sylverbullit7192 2 года назад
Every bolt gun will get a scope. Why don't all manufacturers make the stock design so customers get a good cheek weld? It doesn't cost anything. Same thing with a flat bottom on the fore end.
@azzir325
@azzir325 2 года назад
I bought my first deer rifle, a Savage "package gun" in 30-06 caliber, 30 plus years ago, for around $329. Still using it and it still drives tacks.
@chadwhite7290
@chadwhite7290 2 года назад
My 1sy was a savage 3006 it was 199 bucks in 1987
@wraithvendeta
@wraithvendeta 2 года назад
Same. Savage 111 long action in .30-06. bought it used and been shooting it since 2004. Still my favorite hunting rifle. Even stretched it's legs out to 1100 yards. All I did was glass bed the action and barrel lug and put it on a choate precision stock. Put a Leupold mark 4 on it and I love it
@jfox71
@jfox71 2 года назад
For the money it is hard to beat a savage
@michaelratliff9449
@michaelratliff9449 2 года назад
It drives tacks..but...Can it drive a clutch?
@nathangoode1089
@nathangoode1089 2 года назад
Same, seems to do just fine on the deer I’ve shot.
@jancovanderwesthuizen8070
@jancovanderwesthuizen8070 9 месяцев назад
What’s a good recommendation for one of those mid-tier rifles? I like the low amount of problems, good accuracy and heavier weight for recoil reduction. Also budget wise I’d like to be around 600 to 800 USD
@dylanbraamse8365
@dylanbraamse8365 9 месяцев назад
backfire what's the difference between a buffalo rifle, elephant rifle, express rifle, punt gun, and varmint rifle?
@variableknife4702
@variableknife4702 2 года назад
Backfire - I'm NOT a fan of sling studs. If a traditional look is desired, the best is to put the swivel attachment on a barrel band. Say whatever about not isolating the barrel, but chances are if you want swivel attachment and you want a traditional look, the rifle will be plenty accurate for your needs. The 'real' problem with the studs is in line with your description, but not quite the same. In heavy calibers, recoil energy can be such that your sweaty support hand can end up being jammed up in the swivel. At best it'll hurt - at worst... Easy to say that'll never happen, until you have that snap-shot opportunity on the hunt of a lifetime with a 378, 416 or whatever. Boom. Ouch.
@dbap5293
@dbap5293 Год назад
The best hunting rifle is the one that gets passed on from an older relative
@viktorchekh1523
@viktorchekh1523 2 года назад
Thank you for today's content. I am looking forward to 7 mm PRC! Would you mind comparing it with 7 mm SAUM?
@GulfSoftwash
@GulfSoftwash Год назад
Best bolt gun out of the box is a Tikka hands down. Very reasonably priced and the accuracy and butter bolt can’t be beat.
@winkletown8828
@winkletown8828 8 месяцев назад
Ruger American v2 😎
@johnlimongello5716
@johnlimongello5716 2 месяца назад
I am trying to decide between the Tikka and Gen II
@Mj-CWO4
@Mj-CWO4 2 года назад
I would like to see a comprehensive list of rifles in the three categories and how you rate each one.
@roberti76
@roberti76 2 года назад
Really good advice and review. Best advice is don't drop guns I agree. Love to see a bit of a review on the euro straight pulls like the Blaser, New Beretta BRX1, Vs the Savage? Also the Benelli Lupo? How does that compare? Pricey guns but some pretty good quality.
@foonus406
@foonus406 2 года назад
Seeing all those rifles laid out on your table in the first moments of the video reminds us of a seized evidence table on some CBC liberal hit piece!
@pauld4010
@pauld4010 2 года назад
7mm PRC!!!! Definitely need to do another 7mm comparison. I’m curious how it’ll stack up to the 7 mag and the 7 saum.
@pauld4010
@pauld4010 2 года назад
@@Blueberryheadbandd just curious to see where it fits in its performance. Want to have a lighter mountain rifle built probably gonna go with a 7 saum but the PRC sounds interesting lol
@firestorm8471
@firestorm8471 2 года назад
my primary deer rifle cost $99.00 when I bought it about 35 years ago. An H&R Handi rifle in 30-30 Win. COUNTLESS deer have fallen to it in the Ga. woods . I put a TASCO 3x9 x30 scope on it , zeroed it to hit 1 inch high at 100 yards and to this day I have never had to zero it again.. I load 150 grain Nosler Ballistic tips to just under 2000 fps and it puts the first 5 into a group of less than an inch at 100 yards. the open slightly as the barrel warms.. This load give a complete pass through on anything I will be shooting with it. I have H&K ,, Winchester , Mauser,, Steyr, Remington,, SIG,, Carl Gustov and various other makes and calibers but this is my hunting rifle and I will not change. It is Light ,plenty powerful and extremely accurate. I carry a Glock 27 as my Coyote gun . I see them while hunting and a.40 S&W round is cheaper than my loads in 30-30 . I would hunt anything in the US lower 40 with this setup except Elk and Grizz. BUT I do have an H&R Shikari in 45-70 for big stuff.😁.. I see come of these videos of people shooting animals ay 700+ yards. Well I say that is NOT hunting..that is shooting. There is nothing Fair Chase about anything over 100 yards or so. I do not condemn them on their methods, but it is just not Hunting. And those guys use some freakin high dollar gear. They just need to work on their stalking skills and save a lot of money by getting close to their game.. Even at 57 years old I can still stalk to within 50 yards of a Whitetail.
@ronaldjohnson1474
@ronaldjohnson1474 11 месяцев назад
The world is poorer since H&R's demise. The Handy Rifle and the Topper shotguns were utilitarian & inexpensive.
@hakuuna_matata
@hakuuna_matata 2 года назад
OMG I can't wait for the 7mm prc build !!! Where are you getting your brass ??????????????? That's gonna be my next rifle !!
@billbauer2239
@billbauer2239 2 года назад
You will also have more customer service calls and warranty repairs on the high end, because people who pay premium prices are less likely to work around any imperfections. When you pay for top shelf you expect higher attention to detail.
@4mrholsterco981
@4mrholsterco981 2 года назад
I have to say, the savage axis heavy barrel model in 6.5creemoor is one that is great for accuracy, didn’t rust once (it was a rode hard and put away wet kind of rifle), and I only had three complaints for a under 400 dollar under 1/4 moa gun. The stock is horrible, flexible as hell. It has kind of a weak extractor, but I could use that to my advantage not having to search for brass. And finally, the trigger plain sucked, at just over 4 pounds adjusted all the way down. I took the accutrigger blade out, and got the trigger to just under 3 pounds and it took out all the creep. Also the accutrigger blade being in made the trigger lock up just cycling the bolt. It’s at its new home with a very good friend who needed a new hunting rifle. That rifle with a Timney trigger and a Boyd’s varmint stock would have been badass. Now I have a weatherby TRR in 6.5 creedmoor, it has a fiberglass stock, and it is way better out the box, and I got it for under 600 bucks new.
@gum_man0843
@gum_man0843 2 года назад
I’d love to hear your thoughts on the Sako S20. I recently purchased one chambered in .308 and I’ve been very pleased with it! My wife though? Not so much due to the price tag 😂
@HKSUZI311
@HKSUZI311 2 года назад
I've been wanting to order an S20 for over a year. Tikka roughtech is also a consideration. Would love to hear anything you care to share regarding the s20 .308. sounds like your pleased with it!!
@darinwright679
@darinwright679 2 года назад
I love how your dog is just longingly looking outside, ignoring you and the video camera. He just wants to go outside in the wind. Either that, or he is just watching to see if a cow or house fly by. Lol....love the video and the comparisons. I have many of the same rifles you review, and I find that many of your findings are accurate with my rifles of the same manufacturer. Thanks for what you do. Any chance you could do a video comparing some ground blinds for rifle hunting?
@tec9944
@tec9944 Год назад
I literally can't agree with the first statement more! Cheap rifles have problems and lots of them, but so do the fancy ones I know from experience, then you got x bolts and 700s and model 70s etc thats middle guns u can run 100 years and shoot killer out of the box that's problem free. I 10000% back that
@Roccopaul73
@Roccopaul73 Год назад
Brand new in the”Hunting crew” what mid range rifle would you suggest? Most likely a vertex glass will Be mounted. Thanks for The time.
@fls360
@fls360 2 года назад
Great points mentioned here. I look at a rifle as a tool and you must have the proper tool for the task at hand. I hunt anything from varmints to deer sized game and hunt from tree stands, ground blinds, ladder stands ect. I have a "tool" I use in each situation and most rifles I have are budget priced but i do have some wallet bruisers also. All rifles have their good and bad aspects but most modern rifles either mass produced or hand built in a custom shop have their targeted buyers. I agree with channel owner that a medium priced rifle will serve you better than a entry price level rifle as the fit and finish is better. I have noticed most budget brand rifle makers are slowly designing these rifles with some creature comfort items. If a budget priced rifle is all you can afford, by all means do a little research and get what will be the best all around caliber to handle the task. The old tried and true .243 Winchester is an excellent choice for varmint up to whitetail size game. It's nice to have expensive rifles but it is not necessary and by all means not required. I have found that an expensive rifle and optics give you more confidence on a hunt but I have killed more game with big box store rifles. Just my 2 cents worth.
@pogeegitz
@pogeegitz 2 года назад
I can attest to a lot of this. I recently upgraded from a 1st Gen Savage Axis to a Weatherby Vanguard, and the differences are night and day.
@codym2903
@codym2903 11 месяцев назад
So you just upgraded to a Howa 1500. It's the same gun.
@pogeegitz
@pogeegitz 11 месяцев назад
@@codym2903 same action. Weatherby makes their own stocks and barrels for it.
@Chevsilverado
@Chevsilverado 10 месяцев назад
Yeah there’s a lot more to a gun than just if it can shoot accurately. I will admit I loved modifying my axis on a budget to get it shooting really well, but at the end of the day a nicer rifle will work better in every way and cost less. For me though, a trigger kit, sanding some material from the fore end, bolt lift kit, cheap cheek riser, polishing up the action, made the rifle an excellent shooter. Still suffered from a flexible stock, bad magazine, and small missing features but to upgrade those would just be stupid when I could get a tikka for the price of the axis + mods. Fun project though and surprisingly excellent results. Majority of the mods to make it a great gun are free or cheap.
@pogeegitz
@pogeegitz 10 месяцев назад
@@Chevsilverado I tried a new trigger, and a new, pillar bedded stock. First shot with a cold barrel was accurate, but after that it was all over the place. I think the barrel just did not like being warm, at all. You'd have to let it sit for at least 15 minutes between shots to get better than a 3" group out of it.
@ethantownsend8139
@ethantownsend8139 2 года назад
Thank you Jim. I have recently become interested in the CVA Cascade. Your review played a big part in that along with shooting More deer with a CVA Muzzleloader than any other gun. Please begin adding it to your lineups if possible, just to help us see how it compares. It’s kind of weird since price wise it hits right between the low and medium rifles.
@durtdyver
@durtdyver 2 года назад
He reviewed it already, great value. 👍
@stephaniebolding3741
@stephaniebolding3741 2 года назад
I have a CVA Cascade in 65 creedmoor that I wasn't planning on buying but my brother talked me into it and I am super glad and happy that I did you won't be disappointed
@jimedick9496
@jimedick9496 2 года назад
The CVA Cascade is hands down the best budget rifle out there. For the price range, you can’t beat it. I went into Sportsman’s Warehouse with a $1,200 budget on a rifle only, and walked out with a $600 rifle with a fantastic scope to go along with my new CVA. It’s been a tack driver and the action only gets better the more you shoot it. It compares with the $1,000 rifles all day long.
@chadkauffman2744
@chadkauffman2744 Год назад
@jimedick9496 did you get a cva in a 308? I'm in same boat. I don't wanna spend 1200 $ for rifle only. What are your top 3 rifles? I'm from PA
@peterweikel7123
@peterweikel7123 2 года назад
I really appreciate your insight on these different classes of guns. I do hunt the back country but I do prefer a little heavier rifle. I have shot the light rifles and with the calibers I shoot they just are not something I want to shoot. Mid tier is really where it's at for me. I don't have the patience to deal with issues of any kind so I ruled out the high end guns as well as the low end. I want a rock solid dependable system. The weight, look, price, and even trigger are all secondary to rock solid dependability.
@oneshothunter9877
@oneshothunter9877 Год назад
My brother from another mother :) You said it best. That's exactly what I want. Greetings from Greenland.
@MrTacklebury
@MrTacklebury 2 года назад
I know you don't apparently like them, but the TC Compass is one low end that I'm really enjoying, minus the stock. So I bought the 7mm Rem. Mag and an extra magazine. I put a 6-24x44 Konus Pro Mildot scope on it and a Boyd's Featherweight thumbhole stock on it with a nice sling and a $20 compensator which is nice and thin. I have sub $600 bucks into this thing and it shoots lights out. Never failed to chamber a round and never failed to feed. The 5r rifling and the 1moa guarantee along with a lifetime warranty, really makes me think you have under estimated this rifle FOR those who need to keep costs down. It comes with a threaded barrel and is slightly shorter at 22". I'm buying my first suppressor this fall and will be using the same one for suppressed subsonic .308, full power .308 and 7mm magnum full power loads. So it's really nice to have the threaded barrel also at this price point. I will say that I purchased the stock at the same time as I ordered the rifle, because I hate all synthetic stocks for the most part and really cannot stand chassis stocks. This one from Boyd's is a really nice feel and finish for sub-$200.
@locomike102
@locomike102 2 года назад
Yeah, I've got one in 204 Ruger I bought for sub $300 and it is my go-to varmint gun. I put a cheap Boyds stock on it and put a spring kit in the trigger and it shoots .60" to .75" groups all day with several different bullets.
@robertboyd3863
@robertboyd3863 9 месяцев назад
@@locomike102 I threw together some 243 rounds for mine using the cheap speer 100 gr. bullets , 47,5 grs. 4831 done a 3 shot just under .40 I done the spring kit , thinking of doing a Boyds Stock this under $300 gun matches of outshoots all my other guns , my Weatherby's being the worst on all counts . this was a slightly better than average for it, but shoots about anything good , Also it's Winchester style safety is one of the best , the one on my Xbolt being my favorite ,
@combinedlegacy
@combinedlegacy 2 года назад
Bought a $500 Savage 111 trophy hunter in .270 win. Tagged my first bear at 120 yards. At the range it'll do 1inch groups all day with Core lokt 150gr. Also likes the Non-typical cartridges.
@hxl6162
@hxl6162 2 года назад
Perfect, amazing how YOU TUBE Shad0w B4n you, I don't receive the notifications.
@januswestraat2104
@januswestraat2104 2 года назад
I really enjoy the side mounted flush cups on a rifle stock, to me it makes the rifle a lot easier to carry. I have a Howa and a Tikka, the howa has cost me almost as much as the Tikka because of the upgrades to the stock and the trigger. I get half moa accuracy out of both with handloads.
@TexasForever-tw8ko
@TexasForever-tw8ko 2 года назад
For the barrel rust. I put the lightest goat of grease or oil on the outside of the barrel. It’s saved my shotgun in the salt marshes duck hunting and in the rainy deer and pig hunts.
@andyherzfeld9492
@andyherzfeld9492 2 года назад
Spot on. If you are into guns and handle a lot of them, you will know immediately when you pick up a quality built rifle. That said, you can have problems with them too like he indicated. The bedding is very important with rifles for consistent accuracy which is also something to consider. Materials are important. I don't mess with really cheap rifles because I use my equipment hard and why trust a 5,000. hunt on a cheap built rifle.
@chevyon37s
@chevyon37s 2 года назад
I think what you’re getting at here and in many of your videos, but having trouble saying it, is at what point on these rifles are we seeing the diminishing returns in accuracy, features, quality, etc for the dollars spent. And how good of a value each price point of rifle is. You certainly make the points about value for each rifle. Personally I think the greatest value lies in the $700-2000 range for a bolt action rifle, with the intent to use it as a hunting rifle but still be able to have some fun at the range with it.
@SuperBman1221
@SuperBman1221 2 года назад
I Have been using a Ruger American with a Boyd stock for white tail 6.5 cm and have taken a deer @ 275 walking without taking a step... adjusted trigger to 2lbs with some gunsmith help. Just bought a Sig Cross been testing scopes..I was seeing a difference in chambering my hand loads as I test some that would chamber in the Ruger but not the Sig was confused on why and you have educated me thnaks
@thegreenman2030
@thegreenman2030 2 года назад
I’ve been hunting with a Ruger American Ranch in 7.62x39 for the last two years. Took my 1st deer with it last November. With cheap steel cases soft point it shoots 1-1.25moa at 100 yards. With quality hunting soft point it will shots .75-1 moa at 100. It’s light weight and easy to maneuver around the thick woods of NEPA. I also have the American Predator in .308 and that’s equally as accurate but not as handy. I’m disabled so the lightest weight package is what I need and why I went with a 16” rifle.
@Gokiburi777
@Gokiburi777 2 года назад
The inexpensive rifles aren’t blued, it’s a cheap coating.
@bobbycollins684
@bobbycollins684 2 года назад
Why don't you review rifles made by sauer or blaser or merkel
@ChristianGrest
@ChristianGrest 2 года назад
Definitely a lot of food for thought for anyone looking to pick up that next hunting rifle. Great stuff as always 👍
@texassportsman5880
@texassportsman5880 2 года назад
I'll bet my $500 used Browning X-Bolt composite stalker .30-06 w/Ziess V4 4-16x44 against anything you rich boys got.
@sisleymichael
@sisleymichael 2 года назад
Best inexpensive rifle brand I have ever used? Savage. Crazy accurate with handloads, OK with store bought. My most accurate rifle? A custom built Vz24 action chambered in 6.5x55. That gun has a 24" barrel, shoots .5" at 100yds all day, sits in Byoyds stock, nothing fancy, and has a Timney trigger. Did it myself so all in cost? Maybe $800 a decade ago? Has an old Leupold 3-9x40 Rifleman scope. Just a nuts and bolts basic all weather, all terrain, hunting rifle.
@rsbreeze
@rsbreeze 2 года назад
Also Weatherby Vanguard
@Treasuremonk
@Treasuremonk Год назад
It’s more the ammo than the rifles. I have $1300 rifle that shoots Winchester terribly but a $300 Ruger American shoots same ammo tight
@daithi1966
@daithi1966 2 года назад
I'm not going to lie. I'm really looking forward to the 7mm PRC. Actually, I'm really looking forward to seeing some commercial offerings in the next year.
@ashtoncarie3999
@ashtoncarie3999 2 года назад
Y’all have helped me a lot with what I’ve been looking for for the my rifle and cartridge to deer hunt with and possibly elk hunt with in the future. Thank you guys for the informational videos.
@brockn5554
@brockn5554 5 месяцев назад
What did you end up getting? Me and my brother want to get into hunting.
@ashtoncarie3999
@ashtoncarie3999 5 месяцев назад
@@brockn5554 I got a Howa 1500 in 308 Winchester. I love it.
@rugerfarming5387
@rugerfarming5387 2 года назад
confidence in a rifle . cheap or expensive is the biggest key no questioned asked. i have shot peoples rifles i could not shoot for nothing and they shoot it great. confidence is key.
@MrJtin69
@MrJtin69 2 года назад
Best channel of info and backfire website i prooved alot of people wrong on which caliber beats which in flat shooting
@MrJtin69
@MrJtin69 2 года назад
Cheap rifles like vanguard from weatherby and howa garaunteea 1 moa or lesa
@thegreenman2030
@thegreenman2030 2 года назад
I’ve been hunting with a Ruger American Ranch in 7.62x39 for the last two years. Took my 1st deer with it last November. With cheap steel cases soft point it shoots 1-1.25moa at 100 yards. With quality hunting soft point it will shots .75 moa at 100. It’s light weight and easy to maneuver around the thick woods if NEPA. I also have the American Predator in .308 and that’s equally as accurate but not as handy. I’m disabled so the lightest weight package is what I need and why I went with a 16” rifle.
@1drunkdog
@1drunkdog 2 года назад
I agree. I've had the compact 5.56 and the predator .308 for over 10 years. . Both ate sub moa guns and under$500. My only regret is that they are the flush mags. I like the updated version with the better mags but oh well.
@thegreenman2030
@thegreenman2030 2 года назад
@@1drunkdog For the 223/5.56 I believe you can call Ruger and get the conversion insert so you can run standard AR mags. It's not listed under their part section, you have to call. I know Magpul was working on something for the ,308 as well or you can put that in one of their stocks.
@thegreenman2030
@thegreenman2030 2 года назад
@@zachaddington5264 The 700 has been a corner stone for American bolt actions for decades. There make an excellent base to build on for precision and long range shooters for years. More recently Remington had several years of poor manufacturing and QC so they have fallen out of favor. I wouldn’t hesitate using it purchasing one.
@thegreenman2030
@thegreenman2030 2 года назад
@@zachaddington5264 In that price range there are a lot of good choices. I would do a good about of research on the quality of current product 700’s before I drop that. When Remington was under the freedom group they had several recalls in their 700’s as well as accuracy issues with their barrels. That was around 2008-2015 if I’m remembering correctly. I’d definitely look into Tilka.
@striderwolf687
@striderwolf687 2 года назад
The last budget rifle vid and review of the CVA cascade helped me purchase my Weatherby Vangaurd and CVA Cascade. I still can’t believe the CVA value vs. other brands for features.
@tacticalmattfoley
@tacticalmattfoley 2 года назад
You called a 3lb Vortex scope light weight? instead you could have mounted a Leica Amplus 6 which weighs a pound less, is double the quality and is half the price. You don't even feature a Weatherby Mark 5 Accumark which is the most accurate factory rifle produced. I've owned five of them over the years and every one shot half MOA or better. I don't know about this channel.
@backfire
@backfire 2 года назад
I think you’re looking at a different vortex razor. This is the LHT.
@primsolllineguy8689
@primsolllineguy8689 2 года назад
Well don video and I agree with most of what you have said. Dollar for Dollar the best of the best low to medium priced rifles is undoubtedly the Weatherby Vanguard 2. The are drop dead accurate, Howa action, and top notch blueing. From a fantastic comb stock ( not free floated) to the best safety around they rock. They also scope exactly like REM 700. I own a number of them and IMO best rifle for the money period. The also guarantee 1 MOA or less with any quality ammo. Simply put BEST BANG FOR THE BUCK. THANKS FOR THE GREAT VIDEO.
@Ray-ho8dw
@Ray-ho8dw Год назад
Great rifle I bought one in 7/08 for my son about 15 years ago for 225 he has taken about 3 deer a year with it so yes it has paid for it self
@evanwindom
@evanwindom 4 месяца назад
I just got my new Fierce Mountain Reaper. I haven't even fired it yet, and already have two big gripes. 1. The magazine rattles in the receiver and makes a ton of noise. 2. The M-lok slots in the handguard are cut too small. Standard accessories don't fit. I'll have to file or Dremel the slots to fit. How in the heck do you get that wrong on a $3000+ rifle? At the price of this rifle, I expect things to at least meet industry specs and not have obvious QC oversights. Am I asking too much? I've literally seen $400 ARs that have better mag seating and M-lok compliance.
@stanleyspurgeon5339
@stanleyspurgeon5339 2 года назад
I’m 59 years old I have been looking for years for a reliable well built accurate rifle and affordable. I found the Styer pro hunter. If I buy another rifle it will be a Styer
@sherrykendrick1765
@sherrykendrick1765 2 года назад
You need to check your prices on these again. All hunting rifles, hand guns and shot guns have doubled in price.
@OutdoorGorilla
@OutdoorGorilla Год назад
you know that established title is a scam right ? how can you promote that ? other then that good video!
@M.H357
@M.H357 2 года назад
The phone number with backfire logo asking you to text him/her is a spam, no prize here. Be careful everyone.
@rudolphferdinand3634
@rudolphferdinand3634 Год назад
You buy a Savage rifle, you may have crap rifle; it's a hit or miss firearms company. My first Savage 1994 in 30-06 116 model, the bolt broke bad trigger, I replaced it; in 2016 Model 116 375 Ruger bad stock replaced now the Model 110 Tactical 308 deeply chattered bore tractor made this bore. I replaced the barrel with Criterion barrel match grade 22".
@dooker08
@dooker08 7 месяцев назад
Watching all these videos of calibers makes me laugh how it's about $. 3 rifles I have the most animal's in freezer an old winchester .243 an old cva muzzle loader using .240grain .44 and a modified a303. When I want to feel special I use my .30-30 iron sights. Yea well I can take my 6.5 to 1k lol and? I can kill within 50...
@erinoconnor9306
@erinoconnor9306 2 года назад
When it comes to cheap rifles I love my marlin xl7, my favorite rifle is my model 70 with a high gloss stock. Beautiful look and a classic gun.
@chancechamlies4999
@chancechamlies4999 Год назад
I use a savage axis 2 6.5 creedmore very accurate and reliable plus pretty cheap
@bullheadedgideon1673
@bullheadedgideon1673 Год назад
Although I love your channel, I was pretty disappointed in this video. I wanted to see/hear comparisons, pros/cons, recommendations, etc., between all these rifles you had on the table. What was even the point of bringing all the rifles out??? For example, within each category you had (accuracy, stock quality, trigger, metals), you should've compared the rifles. Even ranking them within said category. I love your channel, tho, man. Keep the videos coming!
@jackdundon2261
@jackdundon2261 2 года назад
I don't watch many of your videos, in fact I don't watch many of a lot of people's videos cuz honestly I know more than they do. Most reviews are "presentation" NOT REVIEWS. all your reviews, when you're trying to find accuracy, are you handling custom loads finding the bullet, finding, the powder, finding the brass, finding the brass length, finding the right primer, oal length etc... to give the most accuracy out of your gun if you're not doing that you're accuracy data is going to be wrong. not all guns are created equal if you're after a 2 or 3 minutes of angle groups that can be easily obtained. less than one MOA you better have your s*** together. So are your expensive guns more accurate? have you done extensive testing on those guns? How do you know how accurate your rifle is with mass produced ammunition.
@markdotcomau
@markdotcomau 7 месяцев назад
Same sorta theory applies to the Automotive world...Buy Chinese, end up with a POS that depreciates in value faster than a Tesla, with zero dealer support, Buy Japanese or Korean, end up with a high quality, well appointed car with a long warranty, great customer service and relatively good resale. Buy a Mercedes, Audi or Jaguar/Landrover and get a beautiful looking, well designed car with heaps of next gen tech, however it spends more time in the workshop than on the road, your bank account is empty and your dealer would prefer to through you under the bus rather than repair or replace your lemon.
@timbarnett3898
@timbarnett3898 Год назад
I had interesting weekend with neighbors AR an new silencer. silencer took tac driver over 1" right, an 4" high. after adjustments AR was back on target. let's break out the beer. but I left early cause hunting season in morning. neighbor needs his rest. I get call he has broken bones an needs me to take him to hospital now! I see him middle of 50 acres laid out on ground breathing labored an can't talk. I can't move him, I don't know what broken? so I call new cop neighbor an 911. cop shows up, 911 wants me on drive entrance, so I wave ambulances on property. Then lock up generators, trailers after everyone gone. got call his being air flights to Harbor View so it was serious!
@scotthardwick7413
@scotthardwick7413 2 года назад
Ok.. I shoot to 250 m when hunting... If it gets to 250 m the its dead.... Cheap guns these days do it... Sling studs are good.. They work for the hunter... Stop mucking round.. Most of you complaints are just just pissing in the wind for the average shooter.... Apologies for disagreeing...
@jimpalmer4916
@jimpalmer4916 Год назад
I still haven't found a more comfortable rifle than my old 30/06 Remington BDL. That there gun shoots about 1.4 groups with factory ammunition. Ì have a pet reload in fire formed brass that will poke all 3 into a single jagged hole everytime if I do my part right. I am old fashioned and don't even want any of these newfangled thousand dollar plus guns.
@garykappes4654
@garykappes4654 5 месяцев назад
Military surplus sporterized rifles feed the best. I have several US model 1917 Enfield rifles in 30-06 that I would grab if I needed some thing to work 100% of the time.
@joshclancy8440
@joshclancy8440 Год назад
I thank you for your videos, I appreciate it all! Sometimes your complaints although appreciated, sound kind wimpy, as in weak and working against warrior men! Our nation won't live without warriors! I know what your return comments might be. Not looking to take away from your extremely informative and valid content in anyway. Just saying we all need to toughen up, our nation is getting weak with pathetic shit! It has to stop! Please don't take offense, none ment! Thank you for all your efforts!
@jb3757
@jb3757 2 года назад
what you have on this table is called "American Market". Cheap, sporty, high volume, and has some good spec on paper. that's why I rather buy one Blaser R8 with some barrels instead of buying a truckload of cheap iron and plastic...
@88decor
@88decor Год назад
Your “high end” is mid tier without a gunwerks or full custom built rifles that guarantees 1/2 moa and extreme reliability your problems are mid tier rifle issues. I’ve never had a failure on any. I’ve ran and shot hundreds of long range setups, I’ve seen rifles fall down hills bounce off rock and still hold zero with a nightforce on elk hunts.
@keithprinn720
@keithprinn720 3 месяца назад
your thoughts on attachments and massive work developing recoil reducing butt pads shows great thoughts, hope it is successful. just mild modifications can transform comfort using a rifle set up and ease of taking in the field, with a folding stock a rifle for comfort and carrying a massive deal.
@brushwolf
@brushwolf 2 года назад
I've killed more deer and hogs.....and a lot of other critters with a cut stock, beat up, iron sight 7.7 Type 99 granddad smuggled back from Okinawa than anything else.
@sydecarnutz972
@sydecarnutz972 Год назад
LOL. We used to joke in nuclear power that if yer gonna ride the razors edge of hi tech, you'll often just get your butt cut up! I prefer tried and true. Got me a Ruger Amurrican that I am very happy with. ;-)
@Snurker
@Snurker 2 года назад
If you get the chance, buy a Blaser R93 or R8. You can change caliber within seconds. The scope is mounted directly on the barrel, so it is no receiver on the gun. Straight pull action with LOADS of calibers, you can use the same bolthead for dozens of calibers. Mini, Standard & Magnum.
@mysterioanonymous3206
@mysterioanonymous3206 Год назад
4/5 guys (hunters) own one where I live. I just held one yesterday and no matter how much hype they have, or how much I want to convince myself they're great, they just don't feel right... Idk, may be just me. Most guys do love them.
@tazdog4528
@tazdog4528 Год назад
Man really be nice if you would get off the sling studs issue. We all no you dont like them and you make it a point to mention it in every video. Gotta remember these are hunting rifles not taticool guns. Hunting rifles are well made to hunt with and the traditional sling stud is perfect for this. Leave the taticool stuff for you bench rest shooters or what i like to call the GI Joe's that want to show up at the range every time you go. Ive been hunting for over 40 years and to this day they have never been a issue to use. Also learn to shoot off hand and you wont need to worry about resting on a bipod, stick, backpack ect. All we ever did was use the old military wrap and maybe our knee to brace our guns. Have shot deer out to 400 yards doing this and taken game with out issue. I probably wouldnt have said any of this but you just got to make a issue about the sling studs in every video we get it already lmao.
@RichardThePear
@RichardThePear 4 месяца назад
My howa 1500 .300 wm w/ oryx is HEAVY. Great shooter. Super accurate and adjustable. Just an absolute bear to hike with lol
@rediron44
@rediron44 2 года назад
I've had great service outta my Ruger American and my Savage axis.
@mikekopmanis2099
@mikekopmanis2099 Год назад
And a Picatinney ratio won't dig into you worse than a sling stud??? What??? Also disagree on rounded forend. Guess all those old M70's are just sub standard rifles, LOL.
@leealan4312
@leealan4312 5 месяцев назад
I like his living room. But if it means I have to be a lawyer to have a living room like that I would pass. Law is a dishonest progression that attracts dishonest people. Even if I know I am a honest man, being around a bunch of dishonest lawyers day after day would be a moral siege.
@stevensrspcplusmc
@stevensrspcplusmc Год назад
Just buy a defiance action, proof prefit barrel and a good chasis and you’ll have a shooter every time, guaranteed! Stop wasting your money on crap! I’ve built 3 so far and no lemons! Life is too short for buying crap!
@IcyDeath91
@IcyDeath91 10 месяцев назад
I have a walmart special remington 700 (7mm mag) adl for like $375 years ago. Put a new scooe on it and away I went. Solid enough rifle, never has needed an upgrade to stay accurate.
@TheFlyingZulu
@TheFlyingZulu 2 года назад
So just buy an American Ruger in .270, .308 or .300 winmag and then experiment with what kind of factory ammo shoots well in it and you're good to go.
@ranchodeluxe1
@ranchodeluxe1 Год назад
Hunting rifles aren't made to bench shoot, they are made to hunt. The sling swivels are there for a reason and it ain't for a spot for poor marksman to hang some apparatus from. Learn to shoot in all positions and you don't need a bipod. There isn't a rifle on that table I'd be caught dead carrying Life is too short to go afield with anything but a Model 70 or a Savage 99.
@petedetraglia4776
@petedetraglia4776 2 года назад
I'm shooting a Savage Axis (Gen 1) 6.5 Creedmoor no Accu-trigger that I bought for $300.00 after rebate, with a Nikon Buck Master II BDC reticle, and a Harris Bi-Pod. With Hornady Match 140 grain Sub 1 MOA at 100 yards, Sub 1.5 inch at 200 yards, and Sub 2.5 inch MOA at 300 yards. It's not always the rifle, its the setup, ability to dial in your optic, breathing & trigger pull, and matching the best ammo for your barrel length and distance of shooting. I seen great shooters out shoot amateur shooters on a cheap rifle while the amateurs have 1000s into the rifle and optics...Master your trade and you don't need a "Gucci" gun....
@TAShannon1
@TAShannon1 2 года назад
10 yrs ago I bought the Mossberg 4X4 24" in .270 win for $298. With my best reloads it is a .75 moa rifle. Not as accurate as many others but good enough for any hunting. Rifle is 6.5lbs. 5 round detachable magazine. Trigger is a decent 2lbs but at 2 lbs I have a light primer strike every 40-50rds or so (Bosnian hard primers). Stock feels cheap. All in all I say 4/5 stars compared to all other rifles. For the money 5/5 stars. I've killed many hogs with it and several whitetail deer. It has probably been on 80-100 hunts in It's life. Still holding up great. Bluing is okay Oh yeah, the recoil is really bad
@adamb2619
@adamb2619 2 года назад
Its 2022....good luck finding anything......if you are even able to buy anymore.
@JohnDoe-ew6ru
@JohnDoe-ew6ru Год назад
This is true half the time you are paying for somebody's name just like snap-on tools biggest waste of money you can buy especially when you find out that icon brand from harbor freight brakes at the same failure rate as snap-on ratchet off topic but prime example
@donaldwagner6012
@donaldwagner6012 7 месяцев назад
The rifle stock you showed in this video was great, regarding the one with the QD flush cups and the picatinny rail. What brand was that? Thanks for these great videos. Don
@josephbishop3231
@josephbishop3231 2 года назад
3lbs is a reasonable number for mass produced rifles. I've seen enough moron's with the Blackhawk Down "this is my safety" meme as their only safety idea.
@modestovanegas2334
@modestovanegas2334 Год назад
Ese fusil vale 1,500 dolar y si vende cartuchos para el fusil y como aser para comprar un fusil
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