Cheese?! (Jenny Mustard's Struggles with Veganism) 

This!!

It’s actually would be a disservice to not show your kids that they should prioritise their health. Lead by example

​@MdoubleHB2 Your use of the word abuse really does such a disservice to all the people that are sexually, physically, and verbally abused everyday in this world. Don't agree with her, fine. Say that, but to say it's "abuse" is just false in the very definition of the word as well as what it means in the lives of so many.

....wigga ​@MdoubleHB2

I really wish this was talked about more, I have no microbiology background at all, but it seems only the people in this field are concerned about this. Not even doctors are seemingly too concerned considering the over prescription of antibiotics to humans still continues.

Fascinating. Thanks for sharing

. . . Shut up Meg

The avian flu thing now spreading (is it another SARS variant?)…50% fatality rate (minimum). I know it’s not as contagious or anything as COVID. But all it takes is a little mutation in the variant and it very well could be easily spread. Wow.

@@dont_harsh_my_mellow Thanks for drawing my attention to this - I haven't been following news enough lately. Avian flu is caused by a type of flu virus not corona virus (coronaviruses cause SARS - Severe acute respiratory syndrome). Where do you get the 50% fatality rate? Is it from some predictions of its potential evolution?

Same! Jenny and UV are like, the longest RU-vid subscriptions I've had, it's crazy she's never heard of her 😂

I’ve been watching her forever as well, like back when she didn’t have eyebrows. I thought, this girl can rock this odd look so confidently, the same way she rocks veganism.

I was waiting for her to say chips after reading this, got there 😂

Chips 4 eva!

Congratulations! 😂

your need for chips is needed

😂

Studied biology so it also blew my mind that besides by friends no one was even vegetarian 😔

I did an sustainability related degree. I was the only vegatarian. So many didn't even separate their trash!

. . . Yeah . . . because theyre normal people

I think originally she actually built her channel quite a lot around veganism but changed after a while to cover more of other topics.

Totally agree with you on her. She’s super fun and unpretentious. I love when her and David talk crap on the Danish language 😭

@@jdmmg4904 Oh, I see. I should have said that it isn't currently all about veganism :) I have been following her for a long time but not since the beginning.

Is she? I quit watching her because I got tired of her condescending tone. She always talked 'at you'.

@@Killjoy_Mel Really? I'm sorry that was your experience. It's so interesting how very differently people can perceive things.

In my area mod pizza has vegan options

@@Amyjwashere Sadly, the nearest Mod Pizza for me would be in Pennsylvania, which is a few hours away from my location on Long Island, NY. I know there are some vegan options near me, but I'd like to be able to go to *any* good pizza place - there are tons in NY!

I ate a lot of sardines during my transition to veganism in college !

​@@earthyvibrations11.11 Yeah, sardines are a very convenient source of high quality protein that also has a ton of DHA and EPA omega-3 fatty acids. They also have the lowest amount of heavy metal contamination of all fish. They were the last thing I gave up during my own journey to vegan eating.

I love celebrating veganniversaries! 💚 But if I could magically make any one food vegan, I'd definitely choose cheese. I've never yet found a vegan cheese I like as much as I used to love cheese, and I've tried dozens of different kinds. Also, like the OP said, cheese is so ubiquitous, it makes it much harder to find vegan alternatives for things like pizza in many parts of the country.

It's them casomorphins.

I've been Vegan and unemployed for years. Don't abuse animals because of economics.

That sucks. Where do you live? Plant based protein is super cheap here in The Netherlands (beans, tofu, tempeh…). For instance, ground beef costs ~ €10 per kg, tempeh costs ~ €6 per kg but has the same amount of protein (based on prices at Albert Heijn supermarket).

@@OmegaPointZen I'm happy for you but I'd assume that you don't have an interest in bodybuilding and don't require an above average protein intake? I definitely believe that your average low-income or unemployed person could get enough protein eating a plant-based diet, but someone who has protein needs that are higher than average and can't afford plant-based meat substitutes and yoghurts and so on on a regular basis would have to buy animal-based products to meet their goals

Tvp is really cheap, I eat it a lot

@@carstenaltena I live in Sweden. Yeah meat is pretty expensive here as well, the only meat I eat is tuna, I eat that once or twice a week, and horse meat, which I eat a few times a year. But I still definitely eat more meat-substitutes than actual meat. I'm more so talking about eggs, and low-fat yoghurt, and cottage cheese - if you look at the cost of that it's significantly cheaper than meat and meat-substitutes. I do eat beans and lentils every now and then as well, but that's just because I like the taste, they don't have quite enough protein in them to regularly appear in my diet, they don't really stack up to meat-substitutes that are soy or wheat-protein based, or low-fat dairy and tuna. Take 100g of black beans, they have 102kcal and 7g of protein. Meanwhile my favorite soy-based chicken-substitute has 151kcal and 23g of protein. Low-fat cottage cheese has 79kcal and 13g of protein. Tuna has 71kcal and 17g of protein.

🫂 even if they don't change, I'm sure you lead by example & that's still very necessary & helpful even if you're just increasing cultural acceptance & understanding for veganism

@@allyson-- Thanks pal, that's a very sweet comment! Hope you're doing well * hugs *

I think there's a lot of truth in what you said about us coming programmed with thoughts. There's a "if bad was done to me you should suffer too" and "if I bad was done to me I want to save you from it" way of seeing things. And for some people no matter how much abuse or cruelty to animals they learn about, they'll still think it's right to use them for food.

@zulemapalito Yeah, sadly, I think you're right 💜

It's even more heartbreaking that they were bred into existence in the first place.

8 billion killed in the US annually for food is heartbreaking too. I can't comprehend that number as individuals suffering tbh... it's too much

And historically speaking we won’t abandon these industries just bc there’s an alternative that’s more ethical like it’s said in the video. Renewable energy technologies were heavily subsidized to the point where they’re extremely cheap now but we haven’t transitioned to them. Why? It’s almost like businesses are very risk adverse. Instead the goal is to prevent competition and innovation. The animal industry succeeded in having vegan products branded as discs and other unappetizing descriptions. Why would they not try anything in their power to prevent animal free products from jeopardizing their position? Wishful thinking might allow us to sleep at night it however has nothing to do with reality. We won’t get there trusting dairy and meat businesses to wake up and become ethical all of a sudden. We’ll only get there if we advocate for better animal rights protection mandating to put an end to this and if not at least heavily regulate and reduce it.

Sorry that you live in a place where plant based eating is so uncommon. I live in one of the most vegan-friendly places in the world and most of the people I hang around with are at least vegetarian anyway. Being vegan for ethical reasons is still relatively uncommon, but it is rare to get comments. That said..., and don't take my comment the wrong way..., but I would stare as well if I heard a reducetarian say that. Because, if you lived 200 years ago, would you have said something like that to the reduced percentage of slaves that you decided to keep exploiting?

@upgradeplans777 you're totally right, of course. Reducetarianism isn't enough.

@@upgradeplans777 Your problem is that you want everything right here, right now, without offering any ways to make it happen right here, right now. I live in a place where we largely depend on seasonal local produce, and when 6 months out of 12 is winter and you only get 6h of daylight, you can guess what our options for vegetarianism and veganism are. In my part of the world, vegetarianism and veganism with proper nutrition literally are a luxury for those who have three things: time to shop mindfully and cook at home, and the money to pay for both the time and energy spent, as well as money spent on the product itself. I get what you're saying and why you're saying it, but you're saying it from a massive ivory tower, and that is why you're met with hostility and refusal. People simply aren't able to make the instant change you demand of them, even if they're ideologically aligned with you, and want to go vegan. And to knock you down from your throne a bit... 200 years ago, my people were serfs. Serfdom is a form of slavery. So I don't know what I would've said, but I would've most likely been too busy worrying about surviving subsistence farming (which my family did until late 90s. Eastern Europe was a poor place then). Rapid and radical change was never driven by the poor and the peasants, even the French Revolution was financed and spearheaded by unhappy aristocracy exploiting the suffering of the poor, all its major leaders were nobility. So if you find yourself in a position to enact this rapid and radical change, make that change possible for those who cannot afford to make that change themselves. Reductarianism might not be enough for you, but you'll just have to deal with it, because you have the convenience of living in a vegan-friendly place, but most people do not, and you stand in front of two realities: the unattainable 'do it perfectly and do it now', and 'do what you can, and try to do more'.

@Killjoy_Mel this is so true. If you live somewhere where veganism is accepted, it must be really hard to imagine contexts where it is hard or even impossible to eat vegan. To say nothing of people with eating or sensory disorders. I know that reducetarianism isn't enough. For me, it's the best I can do right now to reduce harm. And we're sure as heck not going to convert anyone else to a less harmful path by shaming them.

By the way, just wanted to add that it's Swayzes channel that has really influenced me and my views on reducing harm wherever I can. Thanks, Swayze!

Would love this too, as I cook sometimes for diabetic friends.

A few years ago, I was behind a car that had a vegan bumper sticker, and I wondered to myself if vegans were less aggressive than meat eaters. There's a notorious super short left turn light in my neighborhood, and many people miss it completely. Well, this guy wasn't moving, so I politely barely tapped my horn. And he flipped me off.

Weird. What country are you in? It couldn't hurt to kindly request the store manager order more in? Or email head office? There might be more people silently irritated too!

@@hannahmitchell87 The country of Florida 😅

Same here, all kinds of plant milks available, but unsweetened soy is hardly ever in stock. No soy yogurt, either, which is a shame since it has more protein than almond, cashew or coconut yogurt. I'm in Massachusetts.

That's so strange! There was a shortage here (in my area at least) of the UK but usually soy gets the same shelf space as the other milks. I'd be peeved too if nut or oat water were my only options! Where's the protein??

Yes, I’m from the US but was living in the UK for a few months and was delighted by all the non-dairy soy options! There simply isn’t the stock/variety/market available stateside :(

I'd also be interested. I had a classic 'im in my 30s now' injury when I bent over into a car and now it flares up regularly

@@pigeonqueeen LOL I feel this!

Really? I don't need another reason to go to Trader Joe's... But.. 🚗

They have pepperoni? 😯

There are machines that do the laundry for you. You just have to transfer and fold it. It's pretty quick.

@@suredeydo silly me, I was doing it by hand over a barrel in the garden this whole time.

I do too! My friends call it hippie dust, lol

Yes, and minus the actual nutrition in cheese made of cow milk. I don't buy any. Swedish dairy cheese is delicious. Västerbotten that she mentions is wonderful. There is absolutely no vegan equivalent, but I do well without it.

@@thatsalt1560you don’t need cow milk for nutrition. You eat cheese for your tastebuds, stop fooling people and stop exploiting cows. You do know that most calfs need to be killed for milk? It is disgusting.

Most likely worse, unfortunately.

It’s much worse than any animal fat

@@Livingwithadog Well the saturated fat in cheese and yogurt has a different impact than saturated fat in meat and butter, the latter of which is most likely worse than coconut oil.

Yeah, When I was a kid and teenager growing up in Russia, we never ate beans or other vegan proteins and I don't recall even seeing beans/legumes available in stores. I know many vegans like to say that you can find plant foods anywhere in the world, buuut living on just veggies and fruits long term is hard to do in a healthy way. I'm not even talking about how veganism/vegetarianism is still relatively unknown in Russia and I think people look at it weird and think there's a religious or cult undertone to it.

@@oksanakaido8437 Yes, exactly - from all I've seen thus far, in the brief few weeks I've spent in Russia and Uzbekistan, it is both what can be obtained at the supermarket, but more than that, the very mentallity - You simply get kind of _"driven into"_ buying and consuming only carnist stuff as a matter of course, there is absolutely zero awareness to any Veggie ideas. There are beans and stuff, but even they(!) would contain that horror or another, and there's no real _interest,_ it seems, in having any Vegan, Vegetarian, or Environmentally sustainable kind of groceries. The society simply has no awareness - pretty much like what I've heard (though have not seen for myself) of (for example) the American deep south.

@@CitrianSnailBY ugh, it's a shame to hear that the vegan grocery situation hasn't improved there. Do you mean that animal products are added to stuff like dried or canned beans in stores? Cause that sounds very weird🫤 Also, where in Russia were you, was it the bigger cities or somewhere more remote?

Ah yes, Uzbekistan, where the vegan alternative to meat on skewers is vegetables on skewers. Okay enough to visit as a tourist, because the fruits and veg are amazing 😍, and the bread is delicious, and who cares if I don't get enough protein for one week, but actually living there and being vegan has got to be so rough. Can't just live on melon, grapes and flatbread.

@@oksanakaido8437 Indeed, it is very weird... right now I'm in Velikiy Novgorod, a Lovely town, but it wouldn't be possible to be Vegan here. There might be canned beans that are absolutely fine, but some time ago, in Belarus, I had accidentally bought canned beans which, along with the tomato sauce, also contained murdered Animal's body-parts; after the shock from that, and as my Russian is still very basic, I do not take any more chances...

Well, greed and gluttony are two of the seven deadly sins.

@emmaponymous Yes, overeating is a sin. It is just like using a cellphone and other electronic devices that depend on child labor in dangerous cobalt mines.

Powdery snacks 😬

Some people just think they can make up anything and people will believe them. I once had someone say you shouldn't eat too much fiber because it turns into fat in your stomach 😂

Maybe you just get exhausted so fast bcs not enough animal food.

@@MadamoftheCatHouse LOL. No, it’s definitely the murdering of others by the billions every year.