Cheesers RAGE when they get cheesed LOL | Salt Mines #21 - StarCraft 2 

LadyBug here!

Horace needs help… But like actual professional help.

"He was playing with 100 APM, he was incredibly slow". I felt that

Your channel got me back into playing and watching StarCraft after nearly a decade away. Keep up the great work man 😊

I enjoy the minigame in this series where Pig tries to figure out the pattern in the replays that Dot picked out

21:59 kys means kiss in Danish, so I'm just imagining Toons acknowledging his flaws, becoming a better human, and the postgame chat turning into a beautiful romance... ah, young love. ;-)

PiG showing his wholesome side at the end

Hey PiG! Was fun meeting you at Dreamhack and chatting at margaritaville! :D

I'd call this mentality "Unilateral Rules of Engagement." People will create arbitrary rules for themselves like "I *have to* build _in_ my base" so they can't even conceive of the idea of their opponent having a proxy. And when it *does* turn out to be a proxy, they don't correct their preconception, they double down on it. They rage on the opponent for not following these arbitrary, self-imposed rules. "You've broken the Rules of War which you never agreed to and which are really more like guidelines... *shame on you!"* "I *can't* fly over and attack their defenseless base, I *have to* beat this contain down with my _face!"_ Unilateral Rule of Engagement "I *can't* capitalize on a failed attack with a counter-attack, I *have to* rebuild the 5% of my economy and infrastructure they damaged!" Unilateral Rule of Engagement "I *can't* pull back damaged units, I *have to* press forward with full strength until I win or wipe." Unilateral Rule of Engagement And how *dare* anyone do otherwise! "Anything I don't know how to defend is cheese" The *Ultimate* Unilateral Rule of Engagement

“Stay gold, AcTiVillain. Stay gold . . .” The pillow seemed to sink a little, and Player died.” S.L. Kerrigan, The Stargazers

I hope that last player gets a ban, that was genuinely unhinged.

I like to imagine the internet tough guys threatening people, laying in bed at night staring at the ceiling like "I'll really do it!"

Man, Pig, with that closing speech I want to see a reaction stream of you watching the rants Artosis goes on when he loses!

Wise words in conclusion! Great video as always! Really like how u're giving an analysis of what could be done to avoid the situation or how to manage it! thanks

i have no idea why the ppl get so upset about cheese.. its an rts game... every strategie u can win the game u can use.. iff i die to cheese i watch the replay and look for what i can improve in my own gameplay... will still say gg and often i laught if ill get cannonrushed or somthing. its a game enjoy it guys

"In throes of rage, I shall hone my craft."

that last guy was just hilarious. From the bottom of my soul. LOL what soul

"which one's the click again" 🤣🤣🤣

The side tangent after 12:25 got me rolling! Your analogies are the best, too. Man I love this series!

I love salt mines my new favorite thing to watch. I know watching two players rage at each other and liking it dosent make me a bad person right?

I love to see cannon rashers getting punished. Their rage makes it even better

My favorite salt episode yet, with the last 3 minute eloquent-as-usual monologue being more proof of why I hold you as the best and most enjoyable SC caster in the history of the game (even ahead of the always funny Tastosis). :)

These were funny but can we group report Horace? There's salt and then there's... that.

6:41 pawns aren't worthless. Alot of games are decided on pawn moves and promotions. A passed pawn can singlehandedly win you the game. It's like saying that drones are worthless cuz they can't fight...

Glad to get a visit to the Salt Mines so I can bring some home for my Thanksgiving leftovers. Do you have anything akin to Thanksgiving in Australia?

Hi im activillain, I like clicking on things. Thanks for casting my game

Is uThermal to blame for all these proxy hatches 😂

It amazes me how many just never use control groups and just f2: I started with command and conquer zero hour and while that is way less micro intensive then sc2 it was just handy to have control groups. So it keeps amazing me that so many in a micro intensive game just never use control groups.

23:02 if at any point someone ever suspects this at all in the slightest, you know what they can do about that???? *go fucking check.* lol

The dumb ass build was how I would defeat protoss every game in diamond : p when all they did was turtle into sky….maybe it’s different now

Test always rages, I face them on the ladder all the time, funny to see them here.

Love this, cheesers getting stuffed with a better quality cheese and refusing to accept it 😂 But tbh this is why I don't want to ladder, too. I just stick to AI matches and sparring with my friends. I don't need to experience this to know I'd totally be thrown off by a cheeser. 💀

The salt mines is a fantastic series

Pig, I love your psychological analysis on players, you're my favorite SC2 steamer and you're hilarious. Much love from Colorado_Battle ❤️

are death threats banned by blizzard? that last game was a few tiers higher than just being salty, goodness

if i had a son/daughter, i would set a recording on their monitor if they had internet access because i would want to take away their gaming days if they ever said anything hateful like these online. these poor kids are crying for help and their parents have no idea what they are doing/feeling.

zerg proxy cheese is the best to watch because it's the hardest to pull off, but hugely effective if it can get rolling

That second game was perfect. Absolutely love seeing people get their own cheese back in their face and then getting pissed.

hahaha gave the thumbs up for the high level insight on how to properly insult someone. You're all right

Pig, you need a cybernetics core to build shield batteries, hope that helps. Love your videos!

Good ol' sex panther, 60% of the time works every time

Second one is *cheff’s kiss*

25:00 Idk man, I'm no SC2 ex-pro but I'm no twitch chat neither, but that definitely ain't the middle of the map

uThermal starts his Zerg cheese series and suddenly there are a bunch of players proxying hatch, coincidence? I think not!

by the way when someone is named Player it usually means that they got their name forcefully name changed for having an inappropriate name

Even though I viscerally dislike Zerg, when I see a cannon rusher, even I root for them with all my soul.

I think i need to change my cannon rush response to include proxy hatches. I need more ragers in my games

So many pvz in the 1st half of the video lol

I miss the Florencio files :(

I once had a game of DotA 2 in which one of my team mates vowed to get my IP and cut my head off. That was when I knew I had been successful in griefing the hell out of his game (and all my teammates')

spinecrawler micro lol

Ima following ur Twitch channel This is some decent content and worthy watching lul

Such Heresy coming from Horace.

First game insults were confusing - both an incel and their gf left them? I don't think your celibacy regrows when you get left. Second game they didn't rebuild the cyber core so i think no batteries in main as an option? (of course, so much money they could have rebuilt that ages ago)

ugh ya that red zerg in the third or fourth game was so hard to watch... reminds me of bronze league heroes for sure.

I hear the term 'social contract' being used, but I have yet to sign one...

so a quick question... what do pools have to do with a video game?

Test messed up in wasting 150 minerals with that cannon on the 3rd spot. If you do that strategy, I would assume you'd would have at least seen Flo or someone else do this. Anyways, you know not to start that cannon until the Hatch is about 75% done. This way the cannon finishes at the same time or just after. If see the hatch cancel, cancel the cannon.

i hate meat products but always love your content, dude.

while I love laughing at angry nerds in starcraft replays, Horace made me feel sick

yeeeeeeessssssssssss gimmie more salttttttttttttttttttt 🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤

Tactical salted nukes, just the way I like it!

This game made me wonder if there are ever replays sent in that get cut either by the filter or by PiG for just being too yikes

A pawn is like most important piece and it's just i PWN, not own not pawn. You look old enough to remember 1337 speak.

PiG doesn't know the 5 year awards??? Does he REALLY play this game? :)

iPwn is a certified legend.

I just came to say I think you are really cool.

AMD HHHYZEN AND AMD HHHADEON FTW!

Pig go easy on Player. He going through a rough time. He just wishes for his baby to come back. I mean any kinda fool could see this

I honestly don't understand why zealots are the slowest units in the game. They literally can't chase down a building.

The only reason he loses is because his opponents are f'n noobs! LOL

EPIC

I'm gonna start saying mother+ to insult someone through youtube's censorship. Thanks, test!

I wish I could be as sanguine about winning and losing as you, brother PiG. I am just filled with rage at each loss, to the point where I no longer even play any PvP stuff.

Yet another player that needs to be reported to the police for threatening to kil a person.

If you won't say the F word, you shouldn't say the T word either. Otherwise love your content PiG.

2:08 dude has less drones than you start the game with.

RUMB is are you mad bro

I sure hope there’s some RTS gamers among you, for im looking forward to shaking off those cobwebs and playing 1v1 with you in my all time favorite game… only criteria, I get to be my strongest race, you get to be you… PvT. anyone else grow up playing nothing more than C&C and StarCraft for the better part of a decade? My childhood ROTC so to speak…

Yeah Harstem, Protoss players are so mannered.

well ... report that person with evidence ... its a crime so he will sit long ... very long ..

Not pig calling the pawn the worst piece in the game 😥

Not to defend the salty ragers, but I think what they mean when they cry about "noobs" and "no skill" and "stay diamond" is that they belive their opponent is resorting to "dice-roll" strategies (where little to no skill is involved for either player, and you just pray your opponent isn't blind-countering you). In some cases I'm even inclined to agree, certain strats do take much more skill to defend than to execute. Thanks for the entertaining vids :)

holy didn't know sc2 players were so toxic :o

you were on player's side when he used "tranny" as an insult? that's tactical and precise still? it's the after game insults that ruined it for you? lmao

Saying Pawns are the most worthless piece goes to show how much you know about chess.

Just came back to sc2 played some elite AI games was crushing it... got shit on by a bronze player in my placements xD I was laughing at how terribly I played Edit: not saying I shouldnt lose to bronze was mentioning rank to show how low tier I am. I hope i didn't offend anyone or come off as an ass

No compassion for comments like that,a

🧂 =you just 👎

noobs

didnt expect trans slurs this episode tbh

Isnt it kinda hypocrite to censure rape? That's what he meant, and if you do censure why not death threats?

the horace heresy

Can there be an option for auto chatoff and show a little icon next to your name or give a system message. I want to play a strategy game but blizz knows 99% of people are emotionally fueled. Im sorry but im not playing sc to socialize especially with salty inbreds who rage at others before they self analyze. The only time i could possibly imagine getting mad is to getting 2raxed lower ramp before rubble was implented