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"I totally did not expect this to blow up. With that said, I would love to make another one." - the party officials involved in the Soviet nuclear program
fucked up thing is, in reality he didn't know this was a possibility. He was a victim of fucked up soviet design. In real life he send the 2 persons who looked into the reactor core, when they were still in the operating room. But they refused. Ukrainian workers are made of some otherworldly stuff man.
I love the insane troll logic shared between Dyatlov, Bryukhanov and Fomin when it comes to trying to explain how the core exploded. It essentially boils down to "if you can't explain how an RBMK reactor core explodes, then it can't explode" lmao.
That line of thinking is actually quite common for individuals with strongly held beliefs. If you can't disprove their line of thinking, then you must be incorrect.
Well, in reality it wasn't a toilet, I think, but he was rather making rounds around the power plant. When he returned to the 4th block's control room, the power had already dropped and Akimov with Toptunov were trying to rise it. He gave them his blessing to continue and continue they did. At least that was Dyatlov's version of events. You have to take it with a grain of salt, but the HBO series with the spoon of salt. It's American made series, after all. 🙂
Sounds a lot like the Biden Administration right now “Supreme Court Justice nominee can you tell the definition of a woman?” Supreme Court nominee now judge “no I can’t “
There's everything wrong with that. You don't hire such people for posts like this. Under-educated, under-qualified factory workers are not material that is useful for anything other than their base jobs.
To be fair to them, none of the people in that room had been close to the reactor after it exploded, so they themselves didn't actually see it. The control room was in a completely seperate building on the other side of the complex, amd I expect the conference room to be somewhere there as well. Both far away from the actual reactor buildings.
@@xxnightdriverxx9576 that’s literally not true at all. The control rooms were relatively *close* to the reactors. Which is why we see so much graphite on the ground from Dyatlov’s perspective in one of the upstairs corridors. If the control room was as far away as your comment suggested, then Dyatlov couldn’t have seen graphite from his position. The control rooms in RBMK plants were in the same buildings as their reactors.
@@dancingcarapace The five stages of grief: 1. Denial 2. Anger 3. Bargaining 4. Depression 5. Acceptance The five stages of grief, according to Dyatlov, Bryukhanov, and Fomin: 1. Denial 2. Denial 3. Denial 4. Denial 5. Denial
@@friedyt thanks buddy I just LOVE how you emphatized to hilarious levels the skill of these guys to deny the clear absolutely disastrous reality. Plus, the actor which plays the manager/constructor chief of the VLADIMIR LENIN NUCLEAR POWER STATION (let's not call like a capitalist pleb would or they will cut our internet too...) has that kind of deep cigarette-crippled voice with a particular pitch that turns every said thing into gold. Let's don't talk also about the shoe factory worker in charge because that's just ART. Well... cheers comrad. *To the RU-vid Red Banned Workers of the World...* * *FAT VODKA SIP INTENSIFIES* *
“Hey, maybe we should evacuate the city and inform people about the danger.” Old guy: “or, we can act like there is no problem and we don’t get in trouble.” “THIS MF SPITTIN!!!”
This whole episode is so INFURIATING because you know those poor bastards being subjected to insults and ridicule are just trying to properly assess the GRAVITY of the situation and upper management’s only concern is to downplay it and prepare running “damage control.”
More like they all knew this special task was lunacy but they couldn't overrule the idiot who supervises them that only wanted it done no matter what the cost.
The hell of it is Legasov knew the entire time, he knew not only how it was possible, but also the only chain of events that could have caused the reactor to explode. And then he arrives on site, the only man there who knows exactly how it happened, gets his opinion attacked by the fuckups responsible, and because of the government putting pressure on him he can't tell them that it's entirely their fault, that they broke every safety procedure in the book, and that as a result there will not be a single person born on the planet in the next hundred years that will not hear the name Chernobyl and shudder in terror at their magnificent lack of competence.
I actually wish he included the whole old man's speech. It starts with this slow "greatest generation, blah blah, we've been called on to mark hard choices" and being in the west you think this is going to end with some selfless declaration of doing the right thing and immediately working the problem...but hes an old-assed Stalinist so he immediately wants the phone lines cut and to hold the civilians in the toxic radiation zone.
I swear I said it in class one time when I was 15 after a chemistry group project and was in charge to write the essay but since I suffered of imsomnia I hadnt slept for 2 days and fell on the PC exhausted so my mother took me to bed and so... "No one can blame me guys, I WAS SLEEPING!" (for one day and half right until the morning when we had to give it to the teacher).
the emergency calls chill me to the bone. i cant help noticing the abstract difference in competence between the emergency call operators and the 'management.'
Dyatlov comes back from work Dyatlov's wife: 'honey how was work" Dyatlov: not great not terrible Dyaltov's wife: YOUR SKIN IS FALLING!!! Dyatlov: your delusional
@@feeblemonster8174when they planned to take Kuwait, they took it. When they planned to take Afghanistan, they took it. When they planned to take Iraq, they did. When the Russians planned.... Oh wait, they didn't....
@@sjonnieplayfull5859 don`t discuss with loosers like him. Just think about how Wagner swept thru russia with 25.000 troops like a hot knife in butter. Russia is a joke.
Um, you aren’t correct there. They didn’t take Kuwait, the Iraqis did. Iraq wasn’t a victory because as soon as Saddam was removed it descended into sectarian and ethnic civil war which even the journalists in America and Britain feared would happen. Iraq if you haven’t checked lately is far worse than before we bombed it as was Libya. Afghanistan, if you consider your enemies taking back control of the entire country with capturing vast hordes of your equipment while fleeing the country with your tail between your legs and the Taliban restoring everything as it was before a victory then at least when Russia actually wins they do win. Hence, Georgia, Crimea and eventually Ukraine.
Dyatlov left the room at the key moment because deep down he knew that something could be wrong (perhaps not as wrong as it went), which is why he could blame one of the workers if the worst happened. This is why his superior Bryukhanov was also conveniently sleeping at the moment, even though he was the one who pressed for the test.
I see this kind of attitude everywhere. People, who think that they know more about any subjects than a professional, who studied the subject for years on a university and then published numerous peer-reviewed works.
@@CZpersi First of all, darling. If you know something, you know something. The state of having knowledge has nothing to do with how many articles you publish, in which corruption is a major factor, but it's bound to understanding and knowledge. Using credentials to justify shortcoming is not how real science works. Published articles do not make you an expert, a deep understanding of the problem makes you an expert. In this show, Legasov is an expert not because he's a professor or he published articles, he's an expert because he knows and understands the science. Do not confuse the two.
@markarmage3776 So, one does not need to be educated as a nuclear physicist? One does not have to pass tests, exams and write papers to become recognized and known as a nuclear expert? You can have all the knowledge in the universe, but you need to prove it first, if you want others to believe your advice. Otherwise, it is just your "trust me, broh". Diplomas and publications have many shortcomings and academia is indeed nepotistic and corrupted in many ways, but I will always prefer a properly educated nuclear physicist in charge of my nations nuclear power plants, thank you. I myself would rather prefer my surgery to be done by a properly trained and experienced medical doctor with qualification in surgery. But, what can I know? Perhaps somebody, who saw couple videos on RU-vid would do it better? The freedom of choice is yours. Also, I am not your "darling". If you are unable to discuss politely, then you automatically lose the debate.
you should've used dyatlov vomiting as the clip to signify when someone is talking bullshit. after every time they're like "how does an RBMK reactor core explode?" you just follow it up with dyatlov vomiting XDD
I think it’s been long enough to make jokes.. but I also feel the gravity of the whole situation and as a Russian myself, many family members were affected by it
sharp elbows. make sure to take a portion of the responsibility when things go well and avoid the brunt of the blame when things go bad, be hard on those under you, owners like that. for some reason it shows loyalty and leadership capabilities
They kicked ass at lower rungs of the ladder. A LOT would improve if the coorporate culture allowed for returning people who get promoted beyond their competence to return to the job they did well with no shame attatched to it.
@viracocha Management constantly trying to cover their ass. Not telling people what they are doing at appropriate intervals or letting them examine plans ahead of time. Being against people asking questions. Hostile environment. The people at the top of the chain not being knowledgeable on their subject matter. Yes, most jobs, at least in the US, are exactly like this.
It infuriates me when clueless americans like you bagatelize how fkin horrible the communist leadership and the whole system were, where the only requiememt for any position of power was being the biggest bootlicker and snitch, no matter the expertise. This rot was in every corner of society, never knew who to trust, everybody could be a snitch, you could be jailed just for something your child said in the school because he/she heard it at home. you had to talk about anything “political” or anything that could be deemed as such (asically almost everything) in a hushed voice, never on the street, workplace, pub or you faced jail, loss of job, loss of education for your children, etc… everybody was afraid if everybody, this series depicts it solidly, but not in it’s full darkness. Yeah, just like in america🤦♂️
I put this in my presentation actually! The Russian troops exposed the radioactive dirt which the liquidators buried and increased the radiation in the exclusion zone by more than 10x.
@@friedyt week ago I read a report of Russian Docters seeing more radiation problems with those soldiers. It's actually a fear of those who bury the stuff that it will be found in some far future by people who have forgotten what it was Sadly, the far future was very near...
@@friedyt not too surprising: they were raised by people who got educated in the Soviet Union, by those who were told that the State does not make mistakes and there are no serial killers in the Soviet Union. Those people raised and trained these soldiers, and the last years they have only been told bad things about Ukraine so any truth should be ignored as much as possible. And then it hits them in the face like an open door hits a blindfolded guy
@@danielk5780 not really.. nuclear powerplant workers today are exposed to very little radiation. This movie and media has made it seem as though nuclear engineers just drop dead as soon as they enter a power plant.
They sent somebody from Moscow to Chernobyl and the engineer at Chernobyl couldn't be arsed to walk around the reactor building to see that there was graphite on the ground.
I was thinking about that actually, The 2 have a lot of similarities in that they portray the Soviet Union, Use mostly British actors with varying regional accents instead of Faux Russian accents, and are somewhat comedic and portray the general events quite well, but specifics and the characters are inaccurate.
worked in a shoe factory ----------------> ( ' -- ' ) "and now I'm in charge. To the workers of the world" **fat sip** Brilliant. I loved every bit of it.
Legend says he smoke so much that his lungs were radiation-proofed. You are right he has that kind of calm (he slept too much clearly) deep yet weird pitched voice that makes you laugh only for a simple sentence. 😅 BTW his voice I-II-IIS WELL UNDER CONTROL! Just like his own designed power plant.
@@friedyt yes we should just pass over the reactor core several times until we puke to make sure it's exposed. That smoke may just be Brjuchanov relaxing himself inside the RMBK with a cigarette.
@@friedyt lol you said it dude! XD No wonder the ACTUAL Bryukhanov died of lungs cancer, not even for a long term radiation exposure illness, because unlike the the HBO miniseries character, he basically staid in the Nuclear Plant bunker (yes there was a bunker in case of a foreign nuclear attack to the power plant, but well... they nuked themselves so...legit 🤣) until KGB dragged him off there! I bet they were also wearing fireproof cloaths and gas masks more for all the cigarette smoke pouring off the plant (so Boris is somehow right...) rather for the RMBK extreme radiation doses!
As arrogant as Dyatlov yes its true he was supervising out of his ass but he always had the thought that if he it goes wrong the fail safe button will end everything safely, yes he was responsible for the accident but not entirely as there was a problem with the AZ5 button, he wouldn't have known the reactor would explode, he must face imprisonment clearly but the state should have delt a more serious charge, its sad that nothing changed until professor Legasov had to kill himself. He was true the hero, along with everyone involved and every person who sacrificed their lives and exposed themselves to the radiation. What a show.
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