Chessnut Air vs Air+ | Is the Plus Worth Almost Double the Cost?

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Chessnut's latest iteration of their travel sized electronic chessboard is available for pre-order, but the big question is: Is the Air+ worth almost double the cost of the Air? In this video I compare the two products and give my thoughts on whether or not Chessnut's improvements to the Air are worth the "plus" in cost.
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0:00 Introduction
0:33 Similarities
1:29 Board Comparison
4:28 Piece Comparison
7:13 Final Thoughts
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25 июн 2024

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@cougarmeat8803 4 месяца назад

My guess is, because the LED has to illuminate from under the wood, the dark squares have to be a lighter shade. But if the dark squares are richly dark on the Pro, then it’s marketing - they need reasons for the Pro price. Too bad you can’t pick your board and pieces separately. The only functionality I’d use is being able to have a record of practice game moves without having to keep score. Can’t justify the cost for just that. But I could if the pieces were well weighted and high quality.

@Harvestersz 6 месяцев назад

It should be pointed out that the Air+ brings the aesthetics of the Pro Board over to the smaller Air form factor. If you like the looks and feel of the Chessnut Pro, you will love the Air+ simply because, for all intents and purposes, it is the same board shrunk down. BTW, I love mine.

@cameronginochiochess 6 месяцев назад

Totally agree. I think the greater offense is how much more expensive the Pro is over the Air+. I agree it’s a beautiful and fun board to play on, but it comes at a pretty prohibitive cost for most.

@stephenelliott7071 Месяц назад

Oh that's a nice product. I have the Chess Nut Pro, but it's certainly not a travel sized board. I would never use a physical board with plastic pieces and board, so this is a welcome upgrade. But I agree with you that the wooden pieces could have more detail and weight. Maybe the next revision will have those features.

@cameronginochiochess Месяц назад

Checkout the video I just posted on the Chessnut Go! It is a new travel-focused board which I’m really impressed by so far

@benshaw673 5 месяцев назад

Thabks for that. The board I think I want is the Air+. But the cost (and the current 2 month pre order delay) has me pausing. Especially as a UK resident where paying a sizable chunk of import duty is on the cards.

@scoopbls 5 месяцев назад

I ordered and got mine in the second batch. From London UK. No import duty.

@CR3DT 6 месяцев назад

yikes, those pieces are horrible... that is really killing it for me.

@AuRowe 5 месяцев назад

Facts. Dealbreaker for me

@cameronginochiochess 5 месяцев назад

I guess I might be in the minority but even though the pieces do have some very obvious imperfections I still think the plus looks far and away better than the original with the all wood features. I’m still annoyed the Air+ pieces are lighter, though.

@utubepunk 5 месяцев назад

@@cameronginochiochessAre the pieces interchangeable? Will the regular prices work on the Air+?

@cameronginochiochess 5 месяцев назад

Yes, in theory all of the pieces are interchangeable between all of Chessnut's products including the Air, Air+, Pro, and EVO@@utubepunk

@utubepunk 5 месяцев назад

@@cameronginochiochess Thanks for information. Gonna stick to my RadioShack 1650 Travel Chess for now. Lol. One day I hope to snag one of these beauties.

Месяц назад

Could you compare this chesnut air plus, with the dgt pegasus?

@trentonstromberg18 4 месяца назад

hey… i found you off chess reddit and I really enjoy your content with this. I would really appreciate it if you could make a comparison between the pro and the air plus… what are the key differences? is it worth paying almost double the price for better quality pieces? etc… I was going to get the air plus but seeing how much better the pro looks had me thinking

@cameronginochiochess 4 месяца назад

Hey thanks for the comment! I'll try to make a video soon comparing the Pro and the Air Plus. If you have the space for a tournament sized board, it would be my recommendation. I've played probably 90% of my rapid games in the last few months on my Pro. The Air Plus is a beautiful board in its own right, but when it comes to playing experience it's hard to beat a tournament sized board. Functionality is essentially identical, so I understand why the decision is hard to spend double the price for the Pro. And to be even more transparent, all of my Chessnut boards with the exception of the original Air were sent to me by Chessnut for review, so I personally didn't have to make that decision. All that said, I still recommend the Pro as it's the best playing experience for sure. If you don't have the space for a big ass board like the Pro, the Air Plus is fantastic, too.

@peter1970uk 6 месяцев назад

Dam I want the air+ board with the original air pieces now after this.

@cameronginochiochess 6 месяцев назад

It's crazy because the wood pieces for the Pro are immaculate. I was surprised to see the Air+ pieces deviate so much

@wrecklass 4 месяца назад

@@cameronginochiochess I think what'd I'd really like is for someone to make some 3D printer pieces that fit the sensors. Which they sell at Chessnut for about US$30 dollars, or about $20 less than a full replacement set of pieces. Which, BTW @peter1970uk, you can purchase the Air pieces if you'd like those instead of the wonky wooden ones. I have the original Air and really like it. You could keep the wooden ones as backup.

@Toimu13 5 месяцев назад

After watching Aart Bik's Chess for Android video comparing a lot of eboards, I like Chessnut eboards the best. I love that Chessnut sells the sensors for the figures so I could easily make my own. I wish the Air+ had a higher contrast board. Someone made their own chess eboard from a Raspberry Pi... Wonder if I could put the electronics into another board myself...

@CanadianFinanceSimplified Месяц назад

Hey Cameron! New to the channel but is the EVO considered the top of the line in the world?

@cameronginochiochess Месяц назад

Hey there! In terms of robustness of features you’d be hard pressed to find a device that can do as much as the EVO. It really depends on what you want out of an electronic chessboard. That said, the EVO certainly has its software quirks that can be frustrating when it costs as much as it does

@Sejdr 5 месяцев назад

Thanks for the nice reviews. Does Chessnut Air+ work on chessable?

@cameronginochiochess 5 месяцев назад

Thank you!! Unfortunately not. As of now only the EVO has that capability

@Sejdr 5 месяцев назад

@@cameronginochiochess Thank you for the information.

@swilliams140 5 месяцев назад

You had me with the nostrils. I like the regular Air more. Have you seen the chessgirl video on how to change out the pieces for wooden ones. You just need to have access to a drill press, or pre-drilled chess pieces. Stone chess pieces would be even better.

@cameronginochiochess 5 месяцев назад

I have! When I first bought the Air I thought that was a super cool feature that they sold the sensors separately. I just haven’t had the motivation to put in the work to do it myself lol

@titoan31 5 месяцев назад

Can you give us the link of this video plz ?

@Toimu13 5 месяцев назад

ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bDAMj7ro2LQ.htmlsi=gYCqKT41knt9oCeV CHeSSgirl removes the sensors from the Air+ figures and puts the sensors in new wooden figures. Chessnut sells a package of 34 sensors if you don't want to damage the original figures.

@swilliams140 5 месяцев назад

@@titoan31 ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-bDAMj7ro2LQ.html

@tychay 4 месяца назад

why not get an indian manufacture to sell you the pieces without weights or felt added? Most will do so. The hard part is finding pieces that will fit 35mm squares. No problem with the pro as 2.25" is the USCF standard. You can even buy tungsten putty (used by boy scouts and fishermen to weight down wood block cars and lines respectively) to maybe even weight down the pieces if there is any room in there before you stuff in the sensors (which can be shipped a bit).

@1pwNz0mb13Z 25 дней назад

What happens if you close out of the app on these while playing a game, like if you get a phone call or temporarily switch to a different app? Can you just switch back to the Chessnut app and continue the game?

@cameronginochiochess 25 дней назад

The game will continue even if you leave the app!

@benmonsta2506 4 месяца назад

For he surplus pieces work on the regular air board?

@cameronginochiochess 4 месяца назад

Yes all the pieces are interchangeable, I believe they use the same chips. I needed 3 knights the other day for a puzzle and used an Air piece on the Pro board

@iAPX432 Месяц назад

Would take the Air instead the Air+, I prefer good plastic pieces with correct weight to bad wood pieces. Weight being essential for my enjoyment. I think the Air gives more for the dollar, while Air+ is still great. Notice that I am accustomed to tournament plastic board and pieces, and would love a product that look exactly the same on the correct sizes (and weight), because it's the real thing in clubs, associations, local tournaments, etc.

@cameronginochiochess Месяц назад

Have you tried the SquareOff Pro? That might give you the experience you’re looking for with tournament sized pieces and a roll out board.

@iAPX432 Месяц назад

@@cameronginochiochess effectively, seems the right fit for me! Thanx!

@TFPMadcow 6 месяцев назад

I think the Air1 pieces are really bad, when you say the plastic pieces are better than the wood ones you kill a lot of the enthusiasm I had for this board … you are sending me back to square one and looking at the Pro :)

@cameronginochiochess 6 месяцев назад

I wouldn’t call the wood pieces bad, I just think they could definitely be better. The Pro is wonderful though, I’ve also done a full review of that board and its pieces.

@cooloutac 5 месяцев назад

for me thats alot of money just for the all wood set. But then again I'd rather get the pro over the evo lmao. I've had the original air for two years now play on it everday. I remember at the time I coudln't find another board even close to under $200 with full piece recognition. I originally had the dgt pegasus but it always gave me issues and a had a poor battery. Chessnut blows it away.

@CalBru 5 месяцев назад

Got the Evo and have to say I love it, for what it's worth.

@cooloutac 5 месяцев назад

@@CalBru very cool. I love my air. don't get me wrong if I had the money I'd get the + or pro, but its nice they have an affordable version for people like me. lol.

@CalBru 5 месяцев назад

@@cooloutac yeah, in fairness I choked a bit on the cost, so was glad I found it was worth it.

@lokkedpiano5261 2 месяца назад

Hello, could someone please tell me if the pieces are electronically special or is it just the board? Could I use any chess pieces on this board?

@cameronginochiochess 2 месяца назад

The pieces have specific sensors in them that make them work with the Chessnut boards. Chessnut does sell the sensors separately if you are so inclined to modify a piece set you’d like to use

@jahwshfig 4 месяца назад

Dude I love ur ring where about did u get it 🤣

@jahwshfig 4 месяца назад

Sorry for random question

@cameronginochiochess 4 месяца назад

Lol appreciate it!! Got it from a local jeweler!

@pawnslinger1 6 месяцев назад

Axtually, I like the original better. But I wish that I had the upgraded pieces.

@cameronginochiochess 6 месяцев назад

Thanks for your comment! What do you like more about the original?

@pawnslinger1 6 месяцев назад

@@cameronginochiochess I like the contrast of the squares on the original. I also own the Pro, and it is very nice, but again the contrast of square colors is too washed-out for my taste. But then my normal Chess board is an ebony/cream colored squares board. House of Staunton has a real nice Maple/Palisander board for around $150 that I purchased a few years ago. Nice. I paired it with a nice Staunton set from Chess Bazaar (that only cost around $100).... its funny how I end up spending more on the board than the pieces. But the look of the board is VERY important to me... I think my taste is not shared by everyone, but most people I run into value the board look over the piece look. In pieces, I like the Dubrovnik look or the Zagreb style best, because I need help distinguishing between Bishops, Pawns and Queens. But the finer details on the carving go unnoticed, except when the board is setup as a show piece. For play purposes, my favorite set is actually plastic!! I like weighted pieces that have clear distinction between pawns, bishops and queens.

@cameronginochiochess 6 месяцев назад

@@pawnslinger1 great insight! I think I definitely lean more toward piece quality, but more in the sense of weight. Idk why I’m so obsessed with heavier pieces, I just think they play so much better. My House of Staunton pieces/board feel really good and the contrast is great, it’s a blue set lol. But I hear you, it’s surprising to me that Chessnut didn’t go for a deeper color for the dark squares on either the Pro or the Air+

@pawnslinger1 6 месяцев назад

@@cameronginochiochess I totally agree with you about weight. I like the quad weighted pieces from the House of Staunton... my everyday regular set is their plastic Marshall set.... I love it, I wish I could afford the wooden version. And my best set, for special occasions and for display purposes is the House of Staunton Morphy set.... I picked it up on special approximately 5 years ago. My only problem with it is that it was pretty expensive (by my standards) and so I don't play with it often. When I really need/want to play with a wood set, I picked up a cheap Staunton style set (boxwood ebonized) from Chess Bazaar.... it looks okay and is weighted.... but only double (I wish it was quad weighted like the Marshall set). So yeah, I like the weight too.... so those 2 things are the most important factors for me, weight and piece recognition.

@spartanj2957 3 месяца назад

Is the battery replaceable by the user.? They don't last forever. Would be nice if they were weighed,yes carving needs work for what you are paying.

@cameronginochiochess 3 месяца назад

Unsure about the battery but it’s a good question. I’ll ask Chessnut

@jahwshfig 5 месяцев назад

Can you slide these pieces like the pro?

@cameronginochiochess 5 месяцев назад

Yes! The Air+ has the same Move Latency setting as the Pro which enables you to slide pieces

@rulaspla 5 месяцев назад

So you can't slide the pieces on the Air but can you do it on the Ari+? Do they have different movement latencies?

@cameronginochiochess 5 месяцев назад

@@rulaspla correct, the original Air does NOT have the setting to add a Move Latency so you would need to be more careful about sliding pieces. It’s something that seems like it could easily be added, though.

@jahwshfig 4 месяца назад

Can you use cable to connect with devices or computer or is it only bluetooth

@wrecklass 4 месяца назад

The new Air software seems to have the same Latency feature now. I just got one, and it works with slide moves very well. Although I did get one game where it didn't register a queen move, and that made for an embarrassing 'blunder.'

@Murat807 6 месяцев назад

I would buy the plus if it had 81 LED. Single LED per square sometimes gets blocked by the pieces.

@cameronginochiochess 6 месяцев назад

I worried about that but the LEDs are pretty far into the corner of each square and it often doesn’t become a problem. I do really like the way the EVO illuminates its squares though. Super easy to see

@AuRowe 5 месяцев назад

@@cameronginochiochessyo man, just got the Evo and it's a little larger for carrying to the backyard than I was expecting. So now looking at the air plus as an additional to carry around the house and into the backyard. Evo is not too big with a will, but its MacBook-like design makes me not want to take it outside..

@cameronginochiochess 5 месяцев назад

@@AuRowe agreed, the EVO is a tank for sure. I don’t like moving that one around a lot. The Air+ is my preferred board when I’m playing randomly in the house or if I’m working through a chess book. It’s just so light and compact.

@leatangerine Месяц назад

Hey there We're working on launching an automated chess robot and we'd love to get your input to make it the best it can be! We're particularly interested in hearing from potential users like you about what features you'd like to see and what you think would be a fair price. Just to give you some context, we're a team within a leading AI company in Asia, focused on developing chess robots. We've already introduced two successful board game products that combine top-notch AI technology with robotic arms. They've been a hit in China for the past 2 years, finding their way into tens of thousands of households. Reply if you are up for a chat about it!

@scoopbls 4 месяца назад

DMed you pics of my Knights on FB from my Air+. In some ways better than yours, in other ways it's worse

@cameronginochiochess 4 месяца назад

I just saw that, woof. Chessnut definitely needs to lock down quality control on the Air+ pieces

@uragonkadi356 5 месяцев назад

This is not worth buying. My experience is that there are instances where pieces are placed in the wrong square. I am returning my Chessnut Air.

@cameronginochiochess 5 месяцев назад

Interesting, can you elaborate? When you place a piece is it registering somewhere else? Do you slide your pieces?

@AuRowe 5 месяцев назад

@@cameronginochiochessditto on those questions; replying to get updated if he answers. Got the evo today and its solid. Got it partially due to your review. Keep it up man

@cameronginochiochess 5 месяцев назад

@@AuRowe appreciate the kind words and so glad you’ve found them helpful!!

@tetsero 4 месяца назад

This is awful. You could also make the same thing by putting tags into each piece and putting a chess bot on a raspberry pi and build it into the board. All of these are WAY overpriced.