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Chili OOLER vs Eight Sleep Pod! (Best Cooling Bed) 

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Eight Sleep Pod: bit.ly/eightsleeppod ($150 discount code: "authentech")
This is my in-depth comparison of the chili OOLER sleep system versus the Eight Sleep Pod, two hydronic sleep systems, that actively heat and cool your mattress bed producing the best sleep of your life!
Which one should you consider? Watch my comprehensive review, and leave your thoughts or questions down in the comments, and I'll try my best to respond.
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@shawnkitchen7807
@shawnkitchen7807 3 года назад
Just an update.... 8sleep does NOT charge for the membership anymore!
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 3 года назад
Yay!
@jaykelley9881
@jaykelley9881 3 года назад
That's major.. The subscription model kept me from purchasing one.
@louieschwartz
@louieschwartz 2 года назад
@@jaykelley9881 an 8 dollar a year membership stopped you from buying a 2500 dollar piece of kit LOLLL. It'd take you 10 years to pay 80 dollars
@joshperry8702
@joshperry8702 2 года назад
@@louieschwartz if your spending such a crazy amount then that’s such a stupid comment haha that 8 dollars is nothing if you have 2500
@louieschwartz
@louieschwartz 2 года назад
@@joshperry8702 literally my point haha
@BounceHub
@BounceHub 3 года назад
Watching this whilst I’m sweating buckets in bed
@mauricecohen3830
@mauricecohen3830 4 года назад
We've had the 8 Pod for 3 month now. It is very good. Compared to the ooler, the 8 Pod seems like a more cohesive and better designed product. I agree that charging for the analytics app is ludicrous after paying over 2k for the 8 pod.
@ScotLam
@ScotLam 4 года назад
Thanks for AGAIN showing me something I didn't realize I needed (or even existed).
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 4 года назад
It's the ultimate sleeping hacking :)
@cmvalentino
@cmvalentino 4 года назад
Might have missed it, but can you feel the channels in either? Does one/either/both feel like you're on a typical foam mattress or feel like you're on a plastic grid on top of a mattress?
@kurtyaz
@kurtyaz 3 года назад
Great review, these products have both changed quite a bit, I would check out some updated product reviews to make the best decision.
@mitchelljack1590
@mitchelljack1590 4 года назад
Thanks for this, but is there a chance that you may have just gotten used to the Eight and therefore preferred it? Thanks again
@jdpierce21
@jdpierce21 4 года назад
8 Pod all the way! I have had all 3 and prefer the 8 Pod over the Ooler and Chili Pad.
@Torulv
@Torulv 3 года назад
Why do you think so? The eight sleep pod is not available in europe unfortunately.
@tylerfoote3976
@tylerfoote3976 2 года назад
I sleep really warm and the ooler doesn't get cold enough for me. Does the 8 get colder and stay colder?
@Anna-zt3xo
@Anna-zt3xo 4 года назад
Thanks for this review you went into just enough detail without talking our ears off 😋 this helped me tremendously and I do prefer the app on the eight if it shows you your sleep movements I agree very interesting!
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 4 года назад
Awesome, thanks!
@sondrax
@sondrax 3 года назад
Yes it’s REALLY a shame use the ripoff subscription model for something that’s automatically tracked by their servers....they have to chase your every penny after charging so much to begin with! Too bad. JUST because of this I’d support the Ooler product.
@justaninja1
@justaninja1 3 года назад
I wonder who else will have access to that data
@claymango576
@claymango576 4 года назад
I DEFINITELY think sleep tracking is a plus!!! However I wouldn’t pay that much extra AND a subscription fee for it. Better off getting a fit bit or other tracking device
@dickfitswell3437
@dickfitswell3437 3 года назад
20 yrs ago I thought of this idea. Wish I was not 10 when I thought about it & then forgot. I always want a cold bed and pillow.
@George-xr2mg
@George-xr2mg 4 года назад
any idea of the power savings after a winter of use? thanks, Ben!
@Jeff-zy7dz
@Jeff-zy7dz 2 года назад
It sounds like the 8 Pod is better in many ways but having to use their mattress is going to be a non-starter for many folks. I for example have a very comfortable and hypo allergenic latex mattress that I'm not going to trade out.
@americansoldier7776
@americansoldier7776 4 года назад
Just bought BedJet 3! Love it!!
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 4 года назад
Nice! I'm really intrigued by that one. What are your pros and cons?
@dmiller9786
@dmiller9786 4 года назад
Bedjet does not actually do any refrigeration. They just write a lot of copy implying that they do
@TheRebel57
@TheRebel57 2 года назад
Id be curious to see how they both work when you want to store them and not use them for the winter. is there a setting to drain the water from the tubes? or do you have to squeeze it out? or is it not designed for that?
@SlingShotKid007
@SlingShotKid007 3 года назад
great review
@dangelo4139
@dangelo4139 4 года назад
Hi there Ben, first and foremost thank you for making this vid review. I am a new user who is seeking a better nights sleep. You def have me interested in the 8pod but my question is about their mattress that comes with it, I normally experience back pain, especially lower back and neck region -due to so, I feel like the foam mattress they provide will give me that unwanted experience. Do you still recommend the 8 sleep pod under those circumstances? Or am I better off purchasing a firm mattress with other cooling option ? Thank you.
@renorican1
@renorican1 2 года назад
First time seeing you channel, loved the video. Subscribed! 👌🏻
@aaronramly1705
@aaronramly1705 4 года назад
i have seen people diy-ing this bed cooler since 8 years ago using aquarium chiller.it does the job except they dont have fancy app back then
@jvaux77
@jvaux77 4 года назад
We tried the 8 sleep. I found the matress too hard. I am side sleeper and I would wake up sore... We returned it, bought a Layla hybrid matress (use the soft side) and an ooler and love them both. I really like the fact that with the ooler you can use any bed if and when it does or another better product comes along in a few years you just replace the cover and not the whole bed. Thanks for the review.
@zachhagen593
@zachhagen593 3 года назад
Can you feel the tubes laying on it?
@iqueequeg3531
@iqueequeg3531 3 года назад
@@zachhagen593 Yes you can. Ooler didn't work for me, could feel the tubes, kept me awake
@Jeff-zy7dz
@Jeff-zy7dz 2 года назад
@@iqueequeg3531 Ooler has 2 sides, one where you can feel them (cooler side) and one where you don't.
@somarcsaid
@somarcsaid 3 года назад
I need to know more about that bedside clock! Where’s it from? 😬
@Meeowyful
@Meeowyful 2 года назад
I'm interested in buying one of these and I'm curious about the longevity of the product. This review is 2 years old now. So, are you still using one of these AND have you hade any issues? Usually, most water circulating system develop issues over time. Can you post an update video?
@mikefranks4528
@mikefranks4528 Год назад
Wow. no response yet. :(
@Yarrney
@Yarrney Год назад
Boooooooo
@somethingsomething404
@somethingsomething404 Год назад
Dude stand by your reviews. Tell us?
@brittanyblonde9005
@brittanyblonde9005 3 года назад
I wish the 8 sleep was sold separately. I love my current mattress and it's only 2 years old. I don't want the 8 sleep mattress but it seems like the superior product.
@ashleytaylor2374
@ashleytaylor2374 2 года назад
They are
@STONE1993DK
@STONE1993DK 3 года назад
Can you use the eight pod with an elevation bed?
@adamcolter3190
@adamcolter3190 3 года назад
I’ve heard some pads aren’t that comfortable because you can feel the water coilers. Can anyone speak on this and which brands are better? Also could I still use the comforter I have above the cooling pad?
@kurtisgarcia6965
@kurtisgarcia6965 2 года назад
Which model of the pod did you get on this I'm looking into getting one just not sure if it's worth it to go with the more expensive unit... great review
@ryanramage2858
@ryanramage2858 3 года назад
What about noise? Which is quieter the Ooler or the Sleep 8?
@jamesmorales710
@jamesmorales710 3 года назад
Is the 8 mattress is firm ? Or soft
@Owvert
@Owvert 3 года назад
OOLER is the best for sure, Life changer for sure, never slept better.
@gamingofthelegend3907
@gamingofthelegend3907 4 года назад
If the 8 pops would the water spill everywhere?
@drew9496
@drew9496 3 года назад
which of these is quietest to keep temp very low for hot summer? ooler seemed like a roaring tank lol
@Nathan-te7qr
@Nathan-te7qr 4 года назад
This is a video I never saw coming
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 4 года назад
Hey we all sleep ;)
@renorican1
@renorican1 2 года назад
Are any of these products compatible with split king adjustable beds? I was checking on Ooler and no luck!
@slinkyminx2010
@slinkyminx2010 3 года назад
If the ooler is controlled by bluetooth what if I want to switch my phone off at night? Will it just stay on the same setting?
@tihkal
@tihkal 2 года назад
awesome review. any updates since 2 years ago when you made it?
@gjkrisa
@gjkrisa 3 года назад
If the pod was as cheap as the ooler I'd get it but I'm guessing the diy route is going to be the way those prices are not bad for the ooler but insane on the pod.
@Ebrake57
@Ebrake57 3 года назад
Just bought the eight sleep pod. Hope it lives up too the reviews. I have a gut feeling it will .
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 3 года назад
Hope you like it!
@katweaver3275
@katweaver3275 3 года назад
how did it go?
@DrunknOdin
@DrunknOdin 3 года назад
Yes, update please! I want on now but waiting for an update.
@mohammedzulk8485
@mohammedzulk8485 4 года назад
Cheaper to sleep on a trampoline outdoors.
@newking70
@newking70 2 года назад
😅😅
@tiffanyferguson829
@tiffanyferguson829 2 года назад
I really want to get this but my mattress is already super thick how does this fit under matress protector and sheets?
@delta69er
@delta69er 4 года назад
What alarm clock is that?
@ermannognutti2977
@ermannognutti2977 2 года назад
Hi, what are the dimension of the box/package when arrive? P.s they don’t ship in europe😢
@audibleseekz
@audibleseekz 3 года назад
Anyone able to comment on the firmness of the 8 sleep pod mattress? I love a very firm mattress.
@LisaRyanMD
@LisaRyanMD 3 года назад
I would probably use the metrics for a while, but not likely long term.
@madskillzdc
@madskillzdc 2 года назад
my question is since i sleep on my stomach would I hear water slushing around all night?
@dferrerll
@dferrerll 2 года назад
is there not a cooling blanket as such?
@EvanZapfRealtor
@EvanZapfRealtor 2 года назад
Hey Ben!! Great video- what kind of comforter is that you're getting into bed with!? Looks super comfortable. Its at minute 9:31. Thanks!
@jeffstarkco
@jeffstarkco 2 года назад
Would the Eight Pod not work for me if I turn WiFi off during the night??
@prohealthprolotherapyclini9344
@prohealthprolotherapyclini9344 2 года назад
Hey thanks for the great video! do you know if there is a difference in emf levels between the two devices?
@Dieterbe
@Dieterbe 2 года назад
Bluetooth is lower radio power than wifi
@Rebornation0712
@Rebornation0712 Год назад
I think the no go for many people is having to use the pods mattress. I love my sleep number and a pad is feasible but I would not use their mattress
@kevinwelsh7490
@kevinwelsh7490 Год назад
is the water being refrigerated i.e. with a compressor and condenser
@roxiorocha1186
@roxiorocha1186 2 года назад
Dont have the remote cocntrol i vn still use it? thanks
@terrencebryant8140
@terrencebryant8140 3 года назад
We currently have a tempur pedic mattress, we have had it for about 5yrs...it sleeps hot especially since moving from NC to AZ. How does the 8 sleep mattress perform? Is it soft and plushy or firm? I love how the cover encases the mattress. Not sure I am ready to give up a proven mattress for one I know nothing about. Wonder if the cover will fit over the tempur pedic?
@thomaskendrick6766
@thomaskendrick6766 3 года назад
If you like your current mattress I recommend just buying the Pod cover, it fit my Purple mattress like a glove. It was about $1500 for a Queen.
@fondoo
@fondoo 4 года назад
upgraded my chilipad to the ooler. i want to start my ooler remotely when i come back home from work
@clarkkent1521
@clarkkent1521 4 года назад
Use the Ooler cooling unit with the Chilipad pad.
@audibleseekz
@audibleseekz 3 года назад
@fondoo any reason you made the swap?
@fondoo
@fondoo 3 года назад
@@audibleseekz wanted to be accessible on my smart phone and set timers
@audibleseekz
@audibleseekz 3 года назад
@@fondoo appreciate the response. I have a Chilipad and it didn't get cold at all. Like less than a 1 degree change. Think I'm going to have to upgrade to the 8. Just seems like a better experience.
@Torulv
@Torulv 3 года назад
@@fondoo is the ooler colder than the chilipad?
@nopenottoday6179
@nopenottoday6179 3 года назад
Update now you can get the 8 pad without the mattress so you can use it with your pre existing mattress
@TheCalebOsborne
@TheCalebOsborne 3 года назад
With the eight sleep pod - does it bombard you with EMF all night long? Or is it like the oura ring which supposedly doesn't do that - while it tracks biotrakcing metrics?
@Kurio71
@Kurio71 2 года назад
I live in Cabo. It's 90 F in in my room
@claeslind9532
@claeslind9532 4 года назад
I don’t care about the tracking and the changing temperature, I just want the cooler to be able cool down the mattress as cold as possible, which one would you say be best for that?
@paulg5079
@paulg5079 4 года назад
We have the Eight sleep and we can finally turn the AC off at night. It really cools down your bed
@dmiller9786
@dmiller9786 4 года назад
For you the chilipad, which is less expensive than the newer Ooler
@JLTPhotog
@JLTPhotog 3 года назад
@@dmiller9786 ya, the chillipad for sure. I actually just downgraded from the Ooler to the Chillipad because the Bluetooth and scheduling features were very problematic, but once it was cooling it is amazing! The chillipad is a simpler, yet just as effective system.
@TheBshackelford1
@TheBshackelford1 3 года назад
Eight sleep is the way to go. It's goes down to 55 and as high as 110 ( I think). It's amazing. Quite firm though. I love it anyways
@briannelsonpalmer
@briannelsonpalmer 3 года назад
I’ve had the chilipad and upgraded to the ooler, I can confirm that though they SAY they get down to 55, when you’re actually sleeping in the bed the cooling system isn’t strong enough. I set my unit to 55, and it can only maintain about 63 degrees. Since the 8 doesn’t actually tell you the temp, there’s no way to confirm right? Haven’t tried the 8 yet, though I love my mattress so probably won’t.
@thewanderingwizard6894
@thewanderingwizard6894 4 года назад
I have an ooler, and can say that I would choose it over the 8pod anyday. You can customize the temperature of the ooler to ANY schedule you can imagine. From subtle/long temperature transitions to abrupt/fast, or having the ooler being warm before you get into bed, all for $1000 cheaper than the 8pod. Almost every feature you mentioned can be done with more precision on the ooler. The one thing the eight pod has over ooler is the analytics, but if I bought an oura ring or something similar with the ooler it offers more features and less cost than 8pod. Just sayin
@dmiller9786
@dmiller9786 4 года назад
$2000 cheaper now
@Sonic3rdgen10R
@Sonic3rdgen10R 4 года назад
Any mold concerns? Do you hear or feel water moving thoughts either unit? Do either unit have recommended life cycles?
@johnnyeatworld
@johnnyeatworld 4 года назад
The Ooler has a UV filter that kills mold as the water recirculates in the unit.
@failscalator
@failscalator 3 года назад
Surprised the channel owner didn't respond x.x
@roshunepp
@roshunepp 2 года назад
Did I misunderstand that the 8 has to use it's own mattress? I can't put it on my current mattress?
@michaellazzara3292
@michaellazzara3292 2 года назад
what about the blanket??
@infantry0508
@infantry0508 4 года назад
My concern on the 8 pod is it’s longevity, with all the technology in it... do you believe it is built to last 6-8 years... that seems a reasonable expectation. Thanks for the review👍🏽
@101perspective
@101perspective 4 года назад
For that kind of money it better last a ton longer than 8 years.
@122172639
@122172639 2 года назад
8 years is absurdly short for a bed's life span... I'd be fine if the base unit lasted the standard 15-25 years (standard coil mattresses of any decent quality will have warranties that long against warping and against splitting of the usually wool-silk blend encasing!) and you had to replace, for FAR less $$, the cooling outer layer every 5-10 years with some loyalty program, but honestly, will these companies even EXIST in 5 or 10 years?
@lynngrant1198
@lynngrant1198 2 года назад
Thoughts now that 8 has separated bed from pod and the cost changed. Also, no more monthly charges.
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 2 года назад
It's an even better deal, we recently got the new Pod Pro and love it
@BluD
@BluD 3 года назад
Seems like they agreed on the membership eventually
@jimnelms9861
@jimnelms9861 4 года назад
I have an Oura ring so the extra sleep architecture breakdown is not a necessary feature for me, but still pretty cool. Also, pretty lame to be compelled to fork out additional money to be part of their study group!
@LightCanadian
@LightCanadian 2 года назад
Please longevity update
@Eflodur
@Eflodur 4 года назад
Perfecr review!
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 4 года назад
Thanks!
@samanthab5006
@samanthab5006 3 года назад
I love my purple mattress and wish they sold the cooling cover separately. Also worried if I make my current bed too comfy I'll never be able to sleep when we travel
@WattsUpDev
@WattsUpDev 3 года назад
Then by the ooler
@mikefranks4528
@mikefranks4528 Год назад
i’m the same. I love my purple mattress 3 but will have to get the Ooler since that is a pad that goes on top. I would rather have the eight but just didn’t work out that way.
@StanManChan
@StanManChan 4 года назад
Thank you for an excellent review...Can you tell me the cooling technology these products use? Is there a compressor with a refrigerant? Without that it would seem difficult to lower the temp significantly. Or is it just a fan across a heat exchanger coil? We have had a waterbed forever because of temperature control...the best for that, but we need a mattress with better pressure point control and overall better support, thus our interest.
@dmiller9786
@dmiller9786 4 года назад
Ooler uses a thermoelectric cooler that can also heat. It cools to about -10f from ambient air temp with a person in the bed.
@somethingsomething404
@somethingsomething404 Год назад
Update? Did they last?
@SteveS86
@SteveS86 2 года назад
@AuthenTech - question for you. Did the fan on your Ooler control unit run even when the machine wasn’t pumping water, e.g. whenever it was plugged in? Mine is running constantly at all times (just the fan not the pump), not sure if that’s a bug or feature.
@margaretmarshall3645
@margaretmarshall3645 9 месяцев назад
My Ooler unit shuts off when it’s off, fan and all.
@csootoo
@csootoo 3 года назад
When you get this mattress that you posted the link for. Does it come with a bedframe or is that a separate purchase. Also do you have to use their bedframe or will and of the correct size work
@joelayoub2774
@joelayoub2774 4 года назад
I have cats who like to jump on hte bed and walk with claws out. Is the topper of the ooler think enough to withstand that? ive had issues with air matresses where they would immediatly pop them
@sandram852
@sandram852 2 года назад
same!
@somethingsomething404
@somethingsomething404 Год назад
Hopefully they recommend distilled water
@chrisfrancis8446
@chrisfrancis8446 2 года назад
What night stand is that?
@shawnmatthews5118
@shawnmatthews5118 3 года назад
I don’t have wifi out in the wilderness. Guess I’ll have to build an analog model myself.
@kevinarndt6110
@kevinarndt6110 2 года назад
The 8 sleep pod did not last for me. Was a great product but started leaking after 2 months. Not worth it at all.
@xXTECHxKNIGHTXx
@xXTECHxKNIGHTXx 2 года назад
So are they just evaporative cooling systems? If so they are WAY OVER PRICED.
@kamilsliw19941
@kamilsliw19941 4 года назад
Curious to know how much energy did the 8sleep cost you. Obviously both are run on electricity, and I’m wondering since they run all bight, did you electricity bill skyrocket?
@marvfromthecity
@marvfromthecity 3 года назад
a bit late responding, but i pulled this from their website: Whether your Smart Bed is recording data or not, it uses the same amount of electricity as an alarm clock on your night stand. While using the warming feature, our device uses 85W of energy which is the equivalence of charging a 15"-17" Macbook Pro laptop.
@meikaline
@meikaline 3 года назад
From : the princess and the pea - Can you feel the unevenness of the pad under the sheets ? 🐾.
@thomaskendrick6766
@thomaskendrick6766 3 года назад
You can feel the texture of the pad with your hand but I don't notice it when I'm laying on it.
@paulwong7224
@paulwong7224 4 года назад
How does this compare to bedjet 3?
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 4 года назад
Unfortunately I haven't been able to test that one yet. It's a completely different approach and design
@DiamondPaintWithBabyCakes
@DiamondPaintWithBabyCakes 3 года назад
The 8 sounds amazing but I have a sleep number bed so I can’t use it 😭 thanks for the wonderful review.
@SlingShotKid007
@SlingShotKid007 3 года назад
how come?
@DrunknOdin
@DrunknOdin 3 года назад
Maybe because you'd be replacing the entire mattress.
@nationalist818
@nationalist818 4 года назад
I know its completely different but have you used a BedJet 3 Climate Comfort system? have you used one and what do you think?
@bulvie1995
@bulvie1995 4 года назад
I like the Eight Sleep pod better.
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 4 года назад
👏 😁
@screwdriver502
@screwdriver502 3 года назад
8 sleep leaked after 105 days, turning my bed into a wet sponge... customer service was very little help
@pdisme
@pdisme 3 года назад
'No monetary compensation was received for this video', just future compensation via the referral links...
@everythingyousayiscorrect
@everythingyousayiscorrect 3 года назад
Actually I like that fan noise to go to sleep to. My partner and I have to have a fan going in order for us to go to sleep. I cannot sleep in a quiet place. It’s creepy and i can’t stand to hear someone breathing.
@veganconservative1109
@veganconservative1109 3 года назад
Ooler needs a smart phone and 8 needs to get their mattress. Ceiling fan and HAC it is then.
@corylazart2407
@corylazart2407 4 года назад
Because setting the ooler to start at 8:45 instead of 9 is rocket science...
@louieschwartz
@louieschwartz 2 года назад
Literally 😂😂 just hating on the ooler
@meganveldhuis2070
@meganveldhuis2070 3 года назад
Thanks for this! We like to turn off our wifi on our phones at night for EMF reasons. With the Pod, do you need to have your phone connected to Wifi all night?
@jamesprivate9832
@jamesprivate9832 3 года назад
lol get a grip
@tyson9419
@tyson9419 3 года назад
EMF does not = wifi silly goose
@BIGBORE375HH
@BIGBORE375HH 2 года назад
So we're going back to the 80s and waterbeds. 😆
@mvega6018
@mvega6018 3 года назад
I am a hot sleeper and I think I want an 8 sleep pod but the idea of paying a subscription after spending that kind of money really irritates me.
@dericflairmultiverse4952
@dericflairmultiverse4952 2 года назад
Did you try the ChiliBlanket?
@jgfarms
@jgfarms 4 года назад
what brand are the side table and dresser? thanks
@AuthenTech
@AuthenTech 4 года назад
Find those in my Smart Bedroom vid
@liraven7676
@liraven7676 2 года назад
Had 2 oolers..both broke within 2 years...even with the ooler cleaning solution,and regularly mattress tube clearings..and after getting one fixed. It DOES keep you cooler..the app works well when not getting constant upgrades..but, it will only last so long.
@cerebralmindgame9818
@cerebralmindgame9818 3 года назад
You get what you pay for. The 8 Pod system is overall BETTER-hands down 🤷🏾‍♂️ !!
@mainotmia
@mainotmia 4 года назад
Say less. Eight it is!
@amandalocatelli1427
@amandalocatelli1427 3 года назад
can cats ruin the ooler pad?
@TextlefSchrempf
@TextlefSchrempf 3 года назад
No. Just lives.
@TheCitizenFitz
@TheCitizenFitz Год назад
Totally love the cube system (formerly chilliPad) BECAUSE it has none of the app nonsense. Keep It Simple Stupid.
@jamesb2148
@jamesb2148 3 года назад
Lol was super excited and then realized they were so pricey. I’m out
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