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Chinese ‘Tiger’ Tanks of WW2: Vickers 6-Ton Mk. E of Tiger Company 

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This is the companion video to the one made by Tank Encyclopedia (which they have very kindly allowed me to host). If you enjoyed this video, consider checking out theirs as well (link: • Facing the Rising Sun ... ).
The Vickers 6-ton Mk. E tank was the most commercially successful tank of the 1930s. They were sold to a wide range of nations all over the world, with China being one of the users. Possessing a total of 20 Mk. E tanks, it was the most numerous tank model in the Central Chinese military prior to the start of the second Sino-Japanese war. This video will take a closer look at these tanks in Chinese service.
*This video is not monetized and made solely for the purpose of education.
Sources:
Kangzhan: Guide to Chinese Ground Forces 1937-45
中日装甲兵全史 1918-1937
中日装甲兵全史1938-1945
抗日战争中国军队坦克装甲车辆图鉴
中国武备图志装甲兵篇1930-50
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Комментарии : 66   
@steelhelmetstan7305
@steelhelmetstan7305 Год назад
Great video , as always well presented. The vickers tank works on the river Tyne closed in 2012...it was by this time owned by BAE. It reopened in 2015/16, making components for tank parts and other pieces of engineering kit. I remember being in a car driving past the place in about 1985 and I saw a tank....unsure what type, being driven round the test track there...its about 35 miles from where I live. Cheers 😊
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thanks for watching! That sounds really cool, especially being able to see tanks being tested. I wonder if any parts from the Chinese tanks were manufactured at that particular factory. Thanks again for watching!
@steelhelmetstan7305
@steelhelmetstan7305 Год назад
@@resistanceremembered 👍👍
@itsmeghost9461
@itsmeghost9461 Год назад
Hello Resistance Remembered, I just want to say thank you for doing content like this even though it is very unpopular. As a Chinese person, I want to thank you from the bottom of my heart. Although my family members did not fight the Japanese in the Sino-Japanese Wars (at least not to my knowledge), I still feel very emotional when it comes to the amount of lives that are lost in Japan's war against China. I am just very grateful that you are covering topics about the Sino-Japanese War because it is not as prevalent in Western media. Thank you, thank you very much for shining light on this topic and I hope that your channel gets the attention it deserves.
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thank you so much for your encouraging words! I have a Chinese background as well and many of my family members also lived through the war. There’s just not enough coverage of this part of history in the west, something that I hope would change in the future. What happened in China during the 30s and 40s isn’t just interesting, but also important as it influenced the outcome of the entire Second World War. Thanks again for your support and I’m glad you enjoy my videos!
@user-gu8qi4me8x
@user-gu8qi4me8x 3 месяца назад
This video is actually genuinely underated.
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered 3 месяца назад
Thanks for watching! I’m really glad you enjoyed the video!
@evanhand6437
@evanhand6437 Месяц назад
Absolutely amazing video as always. I expect nothing less that perfection and you always deliver. Informative great layout and commentary as always incredible keep it up man
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Месяц назад
Really glad you found this video informative! Took quite a while to find not just the info but all the footage as well so I’m happy to hear that people are enjoying it. Thanks again!
@tvgerbil1984
@tvgerbil1984 8 месяцев назад
Before the Soviets made a pact with Japan, they supplied a number of T-26s to China which were also based on the Vicker 6-ton design. Did the T-26s ever fight alongside the Vickers?
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered 8 месяцев назад
Yeah, they did. The surviving 6 tons were incorporated into the later armoured units and served alongside the T26s. Thanks for watching!
@starwarsstudio100
@starwarsstudio100 Год назад
This was a very deep and detailed video about the Vickers 6-Ton Mk. E Tank in Chinese service. I always assumed that they were all lost during the battle of Shanghai and Nanking and didn't expected some to survive all the way up to the civil war. I was wondering where some of the tank footage is from, mainly the ones at 6:57 and 6:50
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed it. The footage comes from a variety of sources such as the national archives. As for the footage starting from 6.50, I believe it’s from a WW2 era Chinese documentary called 民族万岁 (kind of translates to ‘long live the people’). I don’t think the entire documentary is available online but I was able to find more recent documentaries that used footage from the original one. Hope this helps!
@starwarsstudio100
@starwarsstudio100 Год назад
@@resistanceremembered Ah thank you so much, man. Research on the topic has been rather difficult, haha. I also tried to find footage of the defense of the Sihuang warehouse, but I'm unable to find any leads on them as well. Will you do videos of other units in the future, like the Chinese navy, military police, marines, etc?
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
@@starwarsstudio100 No problem! For Sihang warehouse, try universal newsreel or Japanese sources. Eventually, I want to talk about the Air Force and navy but at the moment, I’m still trying to find good footage to use. As a result, I’ll probably be sticking with army for now as that was the bulk of the Chinese military at the time.
@starwarsstudio100
@starwarsstudio100 Год назад
@@resistanceremembered Ah thank you very much! Ah yeah that is fair. There is more footage of the army out there which is for the reasons that you have mentioned. Footage of the air force does exist, the navy is pretty rare. At least as far as I recall I haven't seen much naval footage, other than during the Canton Operation I believe. Speaking of the army, will you do a video about the Chinese rank system in the future as well. Like how their ID patches work as well as their rank badges on their collars. Like is there a way to get in touch with you other than the comments?
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
That’s quite interesting! I don’t think I’m aware of footage of the Chinese navy from the Canton operations. I’m assuming from 1938? Ranks and patches are a great suggestion, and one that can be done relatively easily. I’ll keep that in mind. Thanks! I have an email that you can contact me with under the ‘about’ section of the channel page. Look forward to hearing from you!
@earlnovero8208
@earlnovero8208 6 месяцев назад
I really love your channel I learned more about second sino Japanese and World War 2. I suggest you make a video about Abyssinian crisis which Italy invade Ethiopia.
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered 6 месяцев назад
Thanks, I’m glad you enjoyed the videos. There’s quite a lot of things about the Second Sino Japanese War that I want to talk about and I don’t know a lot about the Abyssinian Crisis to make a video on it just yet. Thanks for the suggestion though, I’ll definitely keep it in mind!
@SupermarineSpacefire44
@SupermarineSpacefire44 Год назад
I love this! I’ve been doing research on the Vickers tank in Chinese service lately, and I came across the photo of the gate guard in Taichung, which really surprised me since I had always thought all of the Vickers tanks had been destroyed in Shanghai. Keep it up!
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thanks! So that’s where the photo is from haha. I wasn’t able to find an exact location and as a result, I couldn’t be 100% sure of the time frame. I did see a photo of vehicle 63 (technically 563 by that point) that was taken in Kunming in 1944. Unfortunately, I couldn’t find a digitalized version of the photo so I was unable to include it in the video. It’s a shame that the tank was scrapped in the end, much like the ones taken to Japan.
@SupermarineSpacefire44
@SupermarineSpacefire44 Год назад
@@resistanceremembered yeah I found it on an old ROC veterans chat room. There’s another photo of the same tank with US advisors next to it in the 50s. Shame that they’re all gone now, the only thing remotely left is the reproduction they made for the movie The City of Life and Death
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
@@SupermarineSpacefire44 Yeah, but even that ones not being taken care of very well. I recently saw a video of it just sitting out in the open rusting away unfortunately.
@SupermarineSpacefire44
@SupermarineSpacefire44 Год назад
@@resistanceremembered yeah it’s a damn shame. The only remaining KMT tank that was probably used during the war is the CV-35 in Beijing since it was captured and used by the PLA in the Second Phase of the Civil War. It’s better than nothing but still would’ve killed to have a Chinese Vickers or T-26 preserved
@MjrCarnyx
@MjrCarnyx Год назад
Fantastic informative video again, very well done! Thanks :)
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thanks! I’m happy to hear that you found it informative!
@LeoHuangNZ
@LeoHuangNZ Год назад
Fantastic video mate! Clearly a well researched project :)
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed the video!
@terrynewsome6698
@terrynewsome6698 Год назад
What was the main infantry anti-tank weapons of the kmt and pla forces in this war? Boys at-rifles, bazookas, t-gewhers?
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Early on in the war, they imported some 37mm Pak35/36 AT guns from Germany. These were only provided to the elite divisions however, before being concentrated into an independent artillery regiment. For some of the infantry units, they might have had a few 20mm cannons that could in theory be used to engage Japanese armor. The few mortars that they had could have also been used although accurately hitting a tank would have required quite a bit of skill and luck. Otherwise, the men were left with hand grenades. Late in the war, around 43/44, troops of X force and Y force would obtain a number of Canadian manufactured Boys anti-tank rifles, bazookas, as well as US 37mm AT guns. These would have been quite capable of knocking out most Japanese tanks at the time, even the Boys rifles which if used correctly, could wreak havoc on Japanese light tanks or tankettes.
@CZ350tuner
@CZ350tuner Год назад
One mistake: The Type E only had 13mm. of frontal hull armour. The later Type F had 25mm. of frontal hull armour. Poland, Finland & Bolivia specification Type E variant B armour layout: Gun mantlet = 13mm. Turret front, sides & rear = 13mm. Hull front & sides = 13mm. Hull rear = 8mm. Deck / Floor = 5mm. (Top speed = 22 MPH). Chinese specification Type E variant B armour layout: Gun mantlet = 17mm. Turret front, sides & rear = 17mm. Hull front &7 sides = 13mm. Hull rear = 8mm. Deck / Floor = 5mm. (Top speed = 19 MPH). Thailand specification Type F armour layout: Gun mantlet = 17mm. Turret front, sides & rear = 17mm. Hull front = 25mm. Hull sides = 13mm. Hull rear = 8mm. Deck / Floor = 5mm. (Top speed = 17 MPH).
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thanks for watching! Yeah, I got conflicting information from the different sources that I used regarding armor thickness for the Chinese tanks. The images of vehicle 58 with the hatches open shows armor that was definitely thicker than 13mm so I decided to go with the higher value of 25. Taking another look at the images, I guess it could be 17mm as well lol. Thanks for the comment!
@CZ350tuner
@CZ350tuner Год назад
@@resistanceremembered Vickers custom built the VAE & later VAF tanks to customer's specifications. Some had the turret offset to the left, others to the right. I have the "The History Of Vickers Tanks" book. I have a UM made 1:72 scale model of a Chinese VAE. The Vickers-Armstrong 47mm. L.23 3 pounder gun was issued with HE and AP solid shot ammunition. The gunsight had x2 magnification. The gun was tested and found capable of penetrating up to 33mm. of RHA @ 9 degrees @ 100 yards & up to 27mm. of RHA @ 0 degrees @ 300 yards..
@paulkosoff8851
@paulkosoff8851 Год назад
I don't think there is any source of 25 mm hull armour. Soviet tests of the Finnish tank with Mark F hull proved it had 17.5 mm in the front and sided. There were no Mark F tank actually apart from a single prototype for Belgium, but its hull was used for late Mark Es. I doubt, if Chinese tanks (with standard early E hull) had 17 mm armour - have you a good source which claims so?
@paulkosoff8851
@paulkosoff8851 Год назад
@@CZ350tuner all tanks built by Vickers actually were VAE - E was for Elswick :) And of course, Mark E with late hull were not Mark F.
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
@@paulkosoff8851 Very interesting information. There definitely seems to be a lot of contradictory info for Mk E armor. I tried to show the uncertainty by stating that the frontal armor was ‘up to 25mm thick’ but I guess I could have worded it a bit better. As for the Chinese tanks, I simply used period photographs. If you take a look at photos of vehicle 58 with its hatches open, you can get a pretty good idea of the thickness of the armor, which is in my opinion, thicker than 13mm. That’s why I decided to go with 25, but it could also be 17.
@Martin-vy7mm
@Martin-vy7mm 10 месяцев назад
just discovered this channel, amazing content. WW2 china is extremely interesting but barely talked about!
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered 10 месяцев назад
Thanks! I'm really glad you enjoy the content!
@usna98
@usna98 Год назад
Another great video! As we still see to this day, without proper combined arms coordination, tanks are going to struggle on their own.
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thanks for watching! Unfortunately for the Chinese in the 1930s, they didn’t have the time nor the experience to train the crews properly, resulting in some pretty big losses early in the war.
@coldwarmilitaria6593
@coldwarmilitaria6593 Год назад
Really interesting video! Your videos are always very well made and very informative!
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoy them!
@alexren2434
@alexren2434 Год назад
Great video man! Keep up the amazing work!
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thanks! I’m glad you like it!
@JimTimber
@JimTimber Год назад
As always a superbly researched and delivered video my friend ! Very interesting learning about this tank !
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thanks! I’m glad you enjoyed the video! By the way, what happened to your channel? I don’t seem to be able to find your videos anymore.
@JimTimber
@JimTimber Год назад
@@resistanceremembered It kept getting hacked and then blocked for abusive comments. It happenned five times and it upset me so much I deleted it. I really appreciate all the kind support that you gave !
@hugod2000
@hugod2000 Год назад
Interesting video. Thanks for posting
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thanks for watching! Glad you enjoyed it!
@wargamingchina9174
@wargamingchina9174 Год назад
Great video, wonderfully informative ,some awesome footage, bravo
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thanks for watching
@wargamingchina9174
@wargamingchina9174 Год назад
@@resistanceremembered What you have presented is the definitive guide to the Vickers 6 ton tanks in Chinese service, I doubt it will ever be matched!
@danielforcedtofilm8461
@danielforcedtofilm8461 Год назад
Could u do a video about the Renault zb or Chinese indigenous armour
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
I have plans to eventually make a video on the Renault ZB. I’m currently in the process of trying to find more information and more importantly, photographs of the tank, which could take a while.
@abukharan5774
@abukharan5774 Год назад
4daalgorithm
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
Thanks for watching!
@markma6815
@markma6815 6 месяцев назад
您好请问您有国军装备的意大利造菲亚特3000型的照片或影像嘛
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered 6 месяцев назад
不好意思,我没有见过国军Fiat 3000的影像或者照片。其实国军当年到底有没有购买过这种坦克也不好说因为没有什么资料可以证它们的存在。可能是有人可能到了东北军的ft17坦克误认为是意大利的fiat3000?但日军当年确实购买过两辆,测试后否定了大量引进的想法。后来其中一辆被交给了天津驻屯军。
@markma6815
@markma6815 6 месяцев назад
@@resistanceremembered 感谢您的信息!
@Drownedinblood
@Drownedinblood 2 месяца назад
Considering the k/d on that tank im sure it was sold for scrap on purpose as an F U.
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered 2 месяца назад
Considering how a few of the tanks actually survived into the post-war era, it’s extremely unfortunate that none were able to escape the fate of being scrapped in the end.
@stormeaglegaming5395
@stormeaglegaming5395 Год назад
Would you do a video on what is was like for a Chinese soldier during the war ?
@resistanceremembered
@resistanceremembered Год назад
That’s a really interesting suggestion, although it might be quite difficult due to the fact that it really depended on the unit a soldier belonged to. Some had it relatively well (according to Chinese standards at the time), receiving relatively good rations, pay, etc. Normally, only some of the troops from the Central Army could expect this sort of treatment and even then, it was far from guaranteed. On the other end of the spectrum, there were soldiers in other units who were walking around barefoot and starving. Now take into account things like disease and the extremely high casualty rates, I would say that for the average enlisted man/conscript chances were that it was a pretty horrible experience. Thanks for watching the video!
@stormeaglegaming5395
@stormeaglegaming5395 Год назад
@@resistanceremembered Thanks for answering my question , you could try a soldier from the famous german trained divisions early in the war . I would assume they at least be easier to find documents/diaries on .
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