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In a previous video we looked at a Chinese tank known as the WZ-111. However this is far from the only failed design produced by them. As relations between the Soviet Union and Chinese government began to fall apart it became a priority to not just replace their aging license built tanks but also to design new ones capable of facing off against the latest soviet armor should fighting break out. This scramble would eventually lead to the tank project we know today as the WZ-122.
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@ConeOfArc
@ConeOfArc 3 года назад
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@copter2000
@copter2000 3 года назад
Friendship end with GAIJIN. Now WARGAMING is my best friend.
@radonsider9692
@radonsider9692 3 года назад
@@copter2000 only best friend of WG is money and unbalance
@_aragornyesyes_7171
@_aragornyesyes_7171 3 года назад
Sponsor checks out
@hilmansudirman9857
@hilmansudirman9857 3 года назад
It's kinda ironic when WT players start to promote WoT. Because usually, it's WoT players that switch around to WT. But I guess that's not the case.
@dylonkejhu
@dylonkejhu 3 года назад
Sad
@eatthewitch2858
@eatthewitch2858 3 года назад
WZ 122: when the T-62 and the Leopard have a kid, but... they’re cousins...
@noobplayer_23
@noobplayer_23 3 года назад
Oh yeah Alabama time
@kayagorzan
@kayagorzan 3 года назад
Indeed
@actionhirvimoose4294
@actionhirvimoose4294 3 года назад
More like siblings
@USSAnimeNCC-
@USSAnimeNCC- 3 года назад
corrections a Leopard 2 and T-62 had a kids and it had a kid with it twin
@LimeBrawlstars
@LimeBrawlstars 3 года назад
Are u chinese
@knobjob2839
@knobjob2839 3 года назад
"countless tanks all designed to kill" Either the enemy or their own crew.
@Doyle-
@Doyle- 3 года назад
*Ferdinand Noise
@DefinitelyNotEmma
@DefinitelyNotEmma 3 года назад
*looks at soviet tank doctrine* You're not wrong o.O
@Based_Lord
@Based_Lord 3 года назад
@@DefinitelyNotEmma as a Russian I can confirm aside from the the T-80 and T-90 every previous tank was a death trap.
@USSAnimeNCC-
@USSAnimeNCC- 3 года назад
Random careless British tanker who foot got destroy by the Challenger 1 turret
@Doyle-
@Doyle- 3 года назад
@@USSAnimeNCC- wow how could that happened? The turret ring rotating while his foot was in 'there'?
@Jowjoejoe
@Jowjoejoe 3 года назад
China: What were we doing, this is dum. North Korea: I will take your entire design phlisophy.
@gustiwidyanta5492
@gustiwidyanta5492 3 года назад
I mean, they basically have T-62s as their main force.
@Doyle-
@Doyle- 3 года назад
@@gustiwidyanta5492 bruh in syrian conflict there are T-34/85 used in there but the gun breach can kill you so they shoot the cannon outside of the tank
@Bialy_1
@Bialy_1 2 года назад
@@Doyle- What this have to do with NK? Not so long ago crew of americans in a american M-18 was able to blow themselves up by not firing the TD from outside... If the shells have more power because they are puting more propelant to it then it is a good idea to shot it like that. With old stuff people often using reduced charges but in case of a war that is not an option. NK licensed the T-62 production from USSR so NK tanks are based on old technology but are not as old as Soviet version would be. Not to mention that NK improved many critical components: laser rangefinder, "There is a new TShSM-41U gunner's sight, new commander's sight, "Meteor-M1" stabiliser, BV-62 ballistic computer and 9K116-2 "Sheksna" (NATO: AT-10 Stabber) guided missile unit with 1K13-BOM sight (it is both a night sight and ATGM launcher sight. However, it cannot be used for both functions simultaneously) " So to repeat my question: what a tank with a laser rangefinder, stabiliser and ballistic computer have to do with WW2 era T-34-85?
@AdamantLightLP
@AdamantLightLP 2 года назад
@@Bialy_1 because NKs tech is stuck in the cold-war era.
@misanthropichumanist4782
@misanthropichumanist4782 2 года назад
@@Bialy_1 Eh... I thought the point was there are *even older* tanks still in use in recent/on-going conflicts?
@korbell1089
@korbell1089 3 года назад
In most countries, saying "you're way too smart for this job" would be seen as a compliment and not a threat!
@T33K3SS3LCH3N
@T33K3SS3LCH3N 3 года назад
Famously some US police departments don't accept applicants who score too high on an IQ test.
@yottadrive
@yottadrive 3 года назад
@@T33K3SS3LCH3N I think it happens because they are too important to die.
@HarverTheSlayer
@HarverTheSlayer 3 года назад
@@yottadrive Not really. It's more because people with higher IQs are more likely to question the orders they're given, or think too hard about them. And for certain jobs within the police force (like riot police), you want someone who will do EXACTLY what you tell them to do, and not bother with the details. Or, to put it in other words... If you want people to bash some heads, you don't want them asking if they should do it. You just want them to do it, and that's it.
@bigbo1764
@bigbo1764 3 года назад
@@HarverTheSlayer IQ and intelligence are indicative of the ability to follow orders, ironically, these individuals that you claim would question orders go on to work office jobs where they are told EXACTLY what to do without question. They don’t take high IQ individuals, like how the military try to enlist college students: they are valuable members of the workforce, removing them for “grunt work” isn’t ideal.
@Professor_Sex
@Professor_Sex 2 года назад
@@bigbo1764 The military isn't just about grunt work, though, and many positions require alot of skull jello
@dragonhearted7761
@dragonhearted7761 3 года назад
East and West: this one's looking at both of us
@SymmbolZS
@SymmbolZS 3 года назад
"lets name it, Perry the tank"
@ClingyCrab
@ClingyCrab 3 года назад
@@SymmbolZS No, Bartholomew the tank.
@thebravegallade731
@thebravegallade731 3 года назад
So does korea btw South korean k2 is a conbination of a eastern design philosophy with western tech, basically being a desendant of both the K1 (which itself has its basis on the m1 and xm1) and the T-80U
@LoisoPondohva
@LoisoPondohva 3 года назад
@@thebravegallade731 how is k2 anything like t-80u? It's literally a leo clone.
@thebravegallade731
@thebravegallade731 3 года назад
@@LoisoPondohva a leo clone? Nah. If anything its baseď on the k1 whichbis based on the XM1 the failed competitor for the abrams. But at any rate it uses tech based on the RoK's exp with using and building the K1 and its usage of T-80U. The smaller profile of korean tanks and the autoloader are based on russian design philosophies, mostly from the T80U
@alexanderzippel8809
@alexanderzippel8809 2 года назад
Developing Tanks is difficult. China: Yes. So you need special knowledge to develop tanks. China: Makes sense to me. So you need education to develop tank. China: Yes. And you purge your tank developers, who need an education to develop tanks, because they were educated? China: Correct.
@blackroberts6290
@blackroberts6290 2 года назад
ayonima
@cosmoray9750
@cosmoray9750 2 года назад
It is incredible there are people who still think like you do and make fun of others. Get a grip man.....this is the 2000's, not 1950's. Leave the past and come into the present.
@alexanderzippel8809
@alexanderzippel8809 2 года назад
@@cosmoray9750 what does your comment have to do with mine? I made a simple joke based on the events shown in the video…
@UnsungAces
@UnsungAces 2 года назад
@@cosmoray9750 ok chinese bot
@capitalism2096
@capitalism2096 Год назад
"it rhymes"
@randomveezerr2824
@randomveezerr2824 3 года назад
".... resulted in the capture of the soviet T-62 in 1969, it further jumpstarted the program..." Chinese : Prepare the copy-inator
@lolasdm6959
@lolasdm6959 3 года назад
Russians: Refuse to sell T-62 to China China: Captures one
@randomveezerr2824
@randomveezerr2824 3 года назад
@@lolasdm6959 pretty much covers the night stalkers story
@Bialy_1
@Bialy_1 2 года назад
"Prepare the copy-inator" was that copy-inator by anny chance produced in Soviet Union as Soviets also loved to copy not soviet stuff... Tu-4=>B-29, jet engine technology(MiG-15 was heavier and more fuel consuming version of British engine that they were to cheap to just legaly license from RR)...
@nasuegaming1255
@nasuegaming1255 2 года назад
China: Control+C, Control+V 😎👌
@SP-sy5nq
@SP-sy5nq 3 года назад
Cultural revolution be like: “I like you, don’t come to school with glasses tomorrow”
@lolasdm6959
@lolasdm6959 3 года назад
END THE NERDS
@Nathan-jh1ho
@Nathan-jh1ho 3 года назад
How about tie up our teachers and scream at them tomorrow
@MinkyTwats
@MinkyTwats 3 года назад
L-Mao
@peekaboopeekaboo1165
@peekaboopeekaboo1165 2 года назад
It's actually infighting among factions and cliques within the CPC.
@sooryan_1018
@sooryan_1018 Год назад
Bruh that's Pol Pot's class 💀💀💀💀
@herwinladres3659
@herwinladres3659 3 года назад
7:33 lmao this is literally the meme 'Write that down! write that down!'
@OverwatchExtractor
@OverwatchExtractor 3 года назад
Fun Fact: The Chinese tech tree presently seen in World of Tanks is almost completely different from what was originally planned. This is due to how secretive the Chinese Govt. is, even over designs decades old. Essentially, Wargaming had to have each tank and its modules approved before they were allowed to release them. It delayed their release on the NA and EU servers for a significant amount of time.
@zegzbrutal
@zegzbrutal 3 года назад
WG Chinese MT is completely fk up.... It needs a rework with Type 85-I as t10
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 3 года назад
@@zegzbrutal The thing that bothers me the most about the Chinese tree is the "Type T-34". Instead of that fabrication, I'd prefer if the tree just had Tier 5 light tank (either a Taiwanese Chaffee or the M113 with a Chaffee turret) and only branched to medium tanks with the Tier 6 Type 58.
@zegzbrutal
@zegzbrutal 3 года назад
@@RedXlV TBH with the Type 58 being not good in t6. Might as well move down to t5. 59-16/Early Type 62(WZ-131-) become t6. No need T-34-1 and move POS T-34-2 in t7. Start having Type 59-I at t8, then split into two routes. With the first one is Type 59D(59 with the extra long barrel 105mm gun) follow by Type 80. And the other is 122-3/6 follow by 122-4
@RedXlV
@RedXlV 3 года назад
@@zegzbrutal The Type 58 in its current state is basically a nerfed T-34-85, so that does make some sense. It'd need a significant DPM nerf to be Tier 5, since its alpha, pen, and turret armor would be monstrous compared to most Tier 5 mediums.
@taolakhoai
@taolakhoai 3 года назад
@@zegzbrutal T-34-1 is a pretty good MT at tier 7 considering its competition, so T-34-2 down there might be problematic with its 122mm and harder turret. I'm fully on board with getting any Type 59 variants though.
@hmmmintresting3770
@hmmmintresting3770 3 года назад
Imagine driving in your sherman and you suddenly see this MBT looking monstroty pointing its 122mm at ya
@Rururudenko
@Rururudenko 3 года назад
It use 120mm gun
@skysunknownheroes
@skysunknownheroes 3 года назад
@@tylerwenks1063 M4A3 vs IS2 brrrr
@alessiodecarolis
@alessiodecarolis 3 года назад
Napalm?
@britishpersonwholikesgerma908
@britishpersonwholikesgerma908 2 года назад
@@alessiodecarolis Trees?
@jaroslavkalivoda3496
@jaroslavkalivoda3496 2 года назад
Why Sherman ?
@snake45aiman
@snake45aiman 3 года назад
"all the designer were purge because the designer were part of educate class" ..oh that why most of their stuff were copy paste
@ConeOfArc
@ConeOfArc 3 года назад
The designation isn't based on the gun size.
@Predator20357
@Predator20357 3 года назад
@@frankpolly This is like inbreeding but with ideas, imagine if NATO took no ideas from the Soviets, it’ll take longer to get ideas like Composite Armor.
@sheeplord4976
@sheeplord4976 3 года назад
@@frankpolly they did destroy a bunch of old monuments. The plan was to destroy the culture, not just clean it up
@jxmai7687
@jxmai7687 3 года назад
@@frankpolly sorry, let me correct you, firstly in 60-70 Chinese cultural revolution was took place, revolution mean replace every old thing with new, so a lots of old traditions culture were removed or banned, with the people with education was purges most reason is themself or their family was in different as the poor working class as in communisium theory, and Chinese Chess haven't been banned as a basic enjoyment for the working class, but the western Chess was banned but really there was not many people know it exist. druing that time all the university were close, almost noboby can pickup any new technology even you show it to them. my father was a engineer university graduated right before the cultural revolution and work in the goverment institutions, my mother was a medical doctor, they were sent to work in the conuntryside for few years.
@Dermisc
@Dermisc 3 года назад
@@frankpolly You couldn't be more wrong if you tried. The "cultural revolution", along with most political movements in China between 1949 and 1980, was conducted under the theme that customs and traditions had to be thrown out and done away with. The movement saw worse destruction of historical sites and artifacts than the decades of war that preceded communist rule in China. Academics and educated people were persecuted because they seeked to preserve China's heritage and asked too many practical questions that threatened to invalidate the very policies that were being driven by uneducated individuals, such as Mao and his appointed officials. Soviet policies were ridiculed in China for being too conservative, too "revisionist", and not adhering to communist ideals. Mao's goal was to forever silence the knowledgeable and learned elements of Chinese society, so that nobody would question him. He even went so far as to disrupt China's entire education system so that all forms of education were effectively put on pause and replaced by recitals praising Mao's genius. Needless to say, despite getting his way with most of his decisions, Mao thoroughly failed to hold China to his path. Almost immediately after Mao's death and the end of his tyranny, the consequent resurgence of rationalism turned his policies on their heads and gave rise to decades of ceaseless economic development that shaped China's current success. If there is one trait with which one must describe a country as diverse as today's China, it is rationalism.
@thesoy-sorcerer9469
@thesoy-sorcerer9469 3 года назад
lol just opened youtube and found this premiering, thanks cone god
@Wanys123
@Wanys123 3 года назад
So 122TM in WoT and WZ-1224 in AW are from the same project. Very cool.
@harryshuman9637
@harryshuman9637 9 месяцев назад
Don't forget Object 122 from War Thunder.
@fiiv3s
@fiiv3s 4 месяца назад
⁠@@harryshuman9637and now the WZ-1224 is in WoT Console and is the inspiration for the BZ-75 on WoT PC
@harryshuman9637
@harryshuman9637 4 месяца назад
@@fiiv3s 75% of tanks in WoT Console are made up.
@Minute_Sniper
@Minute_Sniper Год назад
In case you guys didn't notice, this tank influenced the development of the ztz-88 as you can see their hulls are the same
@nemanjalackovic2288
@nemanjalackovic2288 4 месяца назад
It's also known as: Obj. 122 "MC" in War Thunder. MC standing for mechanical controls. Very solid tank and it's a squadron veahicle at that!
@releasethekraken5039
@releasethekraken5039 4 месяца назад
And you can actually use the ATGM's in that game, unlike today's sponsor lol
@nemanjalackovic2288
@nemanjalackovic2288 4 месяца назад
@@releasethekraken5039 it's so funny to bait people with intentionally missing your cannon shot just to kill them with the missiles
@kommissarkush2402
@kommissarkush2402 3 года назад
I can help with the translation of Chinese sources if you need in the future
@user-fh7zn2ef6x
@user-fh7zn2ef6x 3 года назад
Same lol
@lamexpard675
@lamexpard675 3 года назад
Me too
@zhongbocheng8074
@zhongbocheng8074 3 года назад
Likewise
@ICCUWANSIUT
@ICCUWANSIUT 3 года назад
I can't.
@soleed7138
@soleed7138 3 года назад
Other countries when the design team did a great job: Good work! China(back in the Mao’s reign) when the design team did a great job: *They’re too dangerous to be left alive!*
@BHuang92
@BHuang92 3 года назад
How does it compare to the Romanian half-attempt of copying the Leopard, the TR-580? Edit: Please do the Romanian tanks next!
@teslashark
@teslashark 3 года назад
There is a suspicion that the TR-580/77 and the Type 80 family tangentially shared design notes.
@craiga2002
@craiga2002 3 года назад
It might be informative to read "Red Horizons," a book by Ion Pacepa, the former head of the Romanian spy services. In it, he details the theft of the Leopard plans. Fascinating!
@aotoda486
@aotoda486 3 года назад
5:50 It's interesting how there probably could be an entire list of 60's/70's Chinese military designs (ykno what, forget military, just Chinese product designs _in general_ ) who's progress are just kneecapped by the Cultural Revolutionary intellecticide. I was reading what little I could find about the Harbin Z-5 Helicopter, so from the Z-6 derivative to the WZ122-A, this ban hammer effect on product designs, or at least military vehicle designs, appears to be a really across the board result.
@jamesedwardzerrudo4522
@jamesedwardzerrudo4522 3 года назад
the biggest oof ever
@jamescurth701
@jamescurth701 3 года назад
that’s communism
@nielsmichiels1939
@nielsmichiels1939 3 года назад
@@jamescurth701 Nope, that's just the chinese........
@jwenting
@jwenting 3 года назад
@@nielsmichiels1939 nope, the Soviets also had a period of it. Stalin's paranoia destroyed a lot of successful people in all walks of life, and then again after the fall of Kruschev the same thing happened with a lot of successful designers being purged because they had been his proteges.
@nielsmichiels1939
@nielsmichiels1939 3 года назад
@@jwenting Oh yeah, i remember that. Fucking Staling purged all the medical doctors and when he had a stroke no one could help him. XD
@DefinitelyNotEmma
@DefinitelyNotEmma 3 года назад
Inb4 the whole China jokes come
@TheTryingDutchman
@TheTryingDutchman 3 года назад
Dude I'm so happy for you that your channel is doing good
@edwardvincentbriones5062
@edwardvincentbriones5062 3 года назад
BT-SV CbD video is deserving
@helpd6723
@helpd6723 3 года назад
“Bob semple blessed by design” when?
@toab5541
@toab5541 3 года назад
I bet the designers were like: Hey the West and East made new tanks Ok We should make a new tank too! Any ideas? Let’s combine them both!
@OliverFlinn
@OliverFlinn 3 года назад
no, the designers were like: oh shit, east and west both have superior tanks now, we should do something about it
@loafbread1920
@loafbread1920 3 года назад
Germany: we have a new tank! China: hold my printer
@user-eo4yj3gs9z
@user-eo4yj3gs9z 3 года назад
So many pictures and information,well done.
@KriptoSeriak
@KriptoSeriak 3 года назад
Nicely done!
@cchorch9157
@cchorch9157 Год назад
Anyone noticed that the WZ-122-4 looks very similar to the BZ-176 and the BZ-75 in WOT
@theonlymann1485
@theonlymann1485 10 месяцев назад
it is, indeed, thr design motive of those two tank's turrets, pretty sure.
@NikolasEukariotyczny
@NikolasEukariotyczny 8 месяцев назад
@@theonlymann1485 Many chinesse tanks have similiar turrets. The BZ tanks are not totally made up from what i understand
@jdash1779
@jdash1779 2 года назад
I’m glad World of Warships and World of Tanks made a lot of these paper tanks or 1 offs so they can visually be seen.
@FrankJmClarke
@FrankJmClarke 3 года назад
The 1224 seems to be an M60 variant. Check out the tracks, wheels, return rollers.
@aspopulvera9130
@aspopulvera9130 2 года назад
When someone tries to copy your design, you know your design is good
@kampfgruppepeiper501
@kampfgruppepeiper501 3 года назад
Awesome video as always man! P.s. what day where you going to go to see the panzer 1?
@ConeOfArc
@ConeOfArc 3 года назад
Planning to be at the musuem both days if the tank demo event.
@kampfgruppepeiper501
@kampfgruppepeiper501 3 года назад
@@ConeOfArc awesome man, we’re going to go on Saturday, hope we can link up!
@andreasleonardo6793
@andreasleonardo6793 3 года назад
Nice video with clear explaining of characters of this China's battle tank WZ-122A . after WZ- 122B ..and its abilities and design started with Soviet T-62 tanks...and progressed its abilities by owners specific manufacturers of China which had not ...too nice video thanks for sending
@bassmith448bassist5
@bassmith448bassist5 3 года назад
Wow!!!!! I never even considered Chinese armor even given current world political situations being what they are. Some very eye opening stuff here. Job well done I say. Cheers.
@alexdivision4320
@alexdivision4320 3 года назад
"hey thanks for being scientists working on these tanks for us but uhhhh year you're smart so time to die" also funny that Wargaming just slaps covers on the MGs and missile launchers because WoT doesn't do mgs or missiles (I'm assuming missiles I don't play it)
@ConeOfArc
@ConeOfArc 3 года назад
The covers are real and you can actually see them in one of the photos I believe, but yeah they would most likely be uncovered in battle. Doesn't really look bad though so I don't see it as a bad thing.
@yolobathsalts
@yolobathsalts 3 года назад
Some tanks only have mg's. But generally, no, missiles and mg's don't get used
@ICCUWANSIUT
@ICCUWANSIUT 3 года назад
Wargaming didnt slap a cover on the MG because it's not used. There are tanks in the game with open MG's like the T7 Car, which is basically a lightweight version of the M2A2 with one turret.
@smithsfan88
@smithsfan88 3 года назад
Thanks cone, very cool!
@jensdevos6464
@jensdevos6464 3 года назад
I appreciate the fact that you actually play the game that sponsors you. Also the majority of your content I’m somewhat familiar with but the things I haven’t heard about is very interesting, you got yourself another subscriber earned keep up the good work.
@hermatred572
@hermatred572 3 года назад
Gotta drop that like early
@Area51UFOGynaecology
@Area51UFOGynaecology 2 года назад
like the stars on the track guards, they actually provide some slight extra protection
@kriszuraw2255
@kriszuraw2255 3 года назад
This was a great episode!
@sirpanzer9407
@sirpanzer9407 3 года назад
Awesome vid!
@sharkquark6252
@sharkquark6252 3 года назад
Hey, I love your videos and one of my favourite tanks is the German Wiesel 1 and the German-American Kampfpanzer 70/Main Battle tank 70 Can you do a video about one of these two maybe some time In future? It would be really cool
@kotikvtanke2349
@kotikvtanke2349 Год назад
Games that have the WZ-122: WoT: 122 TM (122-1) WoTB: WZ-122 TM (122-1) WT: Object 122 MT (122-1) TC: 1224 (well, the name says it)
@thesketchydude1315
@thesketchydude1315 7 месяцев назад
a smallish set of correction 122/122a is Three Liquids 1221/122b is Three Mechanical 1222 is the ancestor to the Type 80 and later Type 88 and Type 85 (and in a weird way even the Type 96) essentially a Type 59 hull with the rear end of the T-62 installed, a new engine, and Suspension Copied from M48 Patton (from Vietnam) and of course the L7 105mm gun later on 1223 is a weird abomination that was basically (at least initially) just a Type 59 hull with a suspension copied from M48 Patton, but later replaced the 100mm gun with a L7 105mm 1224 is the experimental tank derived from American suspension and unique welded composite turret on a HEAVILY modified 122 hull (later prototypes were used in other projects in the 1980s as part of the "BK" series) 1225 is Unknown (possibly not even a thing that actually existed) and 1226 is a more "conservative" alternative to the 1224, with a conventional cast turret instead of the welded one as far as I know 704 wasn't ever officially part of the 122 program, being sort of...an outgrowth of its own (it's also not based on three liquids but rather three mechanical, hence it not being collapsed to the ground after all these decades rotting away) at 6:56 thats not another 704 or 122 at all next to it, just a weird Type 59/69 upgrade with a mine plow, l7 gun, and smoke grenade launchers (there are other photos better showing it online) overall a great vid, seems nobody cares of chinese developments of this era which is quite sad as some of them are beyond fascinating (often being mergers of east and west in terms of tech)
@notstonks20
@notstonks20 Год назад
6:50 the one on the right is a T-54/Type 59/69, with mine clearing plow or something similar, based on the way it is. Probably not a Type 59D1 or 88 because neither of those have the front hull light on the upper glacis
@ewkera417
@ewkera417 3 года назад
Mind is getting stressed? Thinking about who made it best? East, or west? *Tank shell* hitting hard like baton, can't decide my favourite *cannon*
@SupermarineSpacefire44
@SupermarineSpacefire44 3 года назад
Mfw it’s gonna premier at 4:00 AM for me
@mrkalaspuff_3866
@mrkalaspuff_3866 3 года назад
Bruh then I consider myself lucky cause the premier is at 1 PM
@swedishgrizzly6506
@swedishgrizzly6506 3 года назад
For me it's 13:00
@Kalashnikov413
@Kalashnikov413 3 года назад
19:00 for me
@daygus1115
@daygus1115 3 года назад
Mine is 7:01
@dakufaust
@dakufaust 3 года назад
Same
@johnyricco1220
@johnyricco1220 3 года назад
WZ-1224 hull is basically the same as Romania’s TR-85. Even the 8 cylinder engine is the same specs. I suspect this was a joint project between two countries and intended to have a 120mm gun. China probably cancelled the project when the gun took too long (it didn’t enter service until Type-89 tank destroyer entered service). Without the gun the tank was not worth it for China. I think Romania completed the project with the old 100mm gun.
@Orca19904
@Orca19904 Год назад
It should be noted this tank is also now present in War Thunder as the Object 122MT "MC". It features a 120mm smoothbore main gun, 4x ATGM launchers in two pairs on either side of the gun, a roof-mounted 12.7mm DShK machine gun, and a coaxial 7.62mm SGMT machine gun. Appearance-wise, it looks similar to the World of Tanks design except all weapon systems are fully functional.
@LarryPigeon1
@LarryPigeon1 4 месяца назад
Yea it either destroy a good amount of people or just sucks no inbetween
@Ghostmaxi1337
@Ghostmaxi1337 3 года назад
Next Nb.Fz? Or was it allready? Anyway, there was the plan to mout the 5 cm L/42 instead of a 3,7 cm L/45 in the Nb.Fz, why was the idea abandond? And does anyonr know if the 10,5 cm LeFH 18 L/28 fit in a Pz IV turret? I had a shower thought, near the end of the war germany tried more and more to have interchangable parts. So i wondered wether it was possible to mount the 105 in the Pz IV turret, it would then be able to take both rolls, a big He round, and with the 10,5/7,5 cm Pzgr Ts (Apcbcds) it would be even more powerfull than the 7,5 cm KwK 40 L/48 while having a shorter barrle. Then there were Pz III/IV hulls (used for self propelled guns such as Hummel or Nashorn) Couldnt they have ceased production of Pz III and IV hulls and take that with improved armor (it has a even more sloped big front plate and there where versions where the only horizontal plate was small, just a hood for the driver) And build on that hull the next generation of Stugs, Flaks, "normal" Panzer and continue the Spgs? And possibly further imorove the hull as to implement the pointy lower hull armor setup like on Jpz IV.
@jammygamer8961
@jammygamer8961 3 года назад
you might be thinking about the Heuschrecke 10 which looks similar to a Panzer 4 en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heuschrecke_10
@cplslash
@cplslash 3 года назад
I would love to see a video on the. Neubaufahrzeug
@junior_emer2
@junior_emer2 3 года назад
122TM je great tank imo Solid 120mm front armour turret have 280mm ( best value on medium) only thing what i hate is reload time :/ 14sec for 1 shot is too long
@NikolasEukariotyczny
@NikolasEukariotyczny 8 месяцев назад
It is, but great accuracy, pen, and 300mm heat rounds make up for it
@pvt.jamesramirez6810
@pvt.jamesramirez6810 3 года назад
Don't mind me, just gonna wait 10 hour from now
@tankdestroyerno.2684
@tankdestroyerno.2684 Год назад
Now that you've mentioned the Type 89 (PTZ89) can you make a content about the Object 120 "Taran" and PTZ89? Thanks.
@drunkcat1713
@drunkcat1713 3 года назад
5:55 that's a big UFF!!
@armadillo3454
@armadillo3454 Год назад
they recently added it to war thunder as well and its tier for tier far better than the T62s at comparable battle ratings. in addition to having overall better armor it also has similar mobility and the ability to use the ATGMs means you can deal with multiple targets at the same time.
@wot1fan885
@wot1fan885 3 года назад
Wow that is cool I play on NA too . Ill be looking for ya in battle .
@darknut9696
@darknut9696 3 года назад
Why wasn't this line up used in War Thunder as a tech tree, event vehicles or premium pack vehicle because World of Tanks is pulling ahead with native tank designs for different nations but in war tinder everything is almost copy paste
@Sammael66685
@Sammael66685 3 года назад
Maybe because most of the whole Chinese tech tree from World of Tanks are rather: A: Prototypes that were just tested without any actual implementation, like the WZ-111 B: Concepts that never ever passed beyond the drawing board, like the T-34-2 C: Total WG's own inventions, like the Type 59/Patton, Type 58, the whole tank destroyer branch, etc. From all those, which makes about a 70% of the nation roster at least including regular and premium vehicles, only the ones of the A category could make an appearance on War Thunder, as they use vehicules that actually served or proposals that were actually build AND tested. (argument which makes this very WZ-122 and all their variants a very plausible addition in other hand)
@AbsolutelyStupidGoofball
@AbsolutelyStupidGoofball Год назад
@@Sammael66685 funnily enough, the tier 2 Chinese TD is a real tank and I'm pretty sure that the tier 3 is real too
@shermanfirefly5410
@shermanfirefly5410 3 года назад
The WZ122 actually might be a good tank if they managed to combine those weapon systems together
@anarchyandempires5452
@anarchyandempires5452 3 года назад
The original designers also found them selves being replaced as they were being purged because they were part of the educated class....... Now I might just be a humble Texan toy merchant, but I'm pretty sure you want your military designers to be able to read an write.
@rustybottoms8859
@rustybottoms8859 Год назад
I have the 122 TM in WoT. Its been my favorite tank for some time. Very reliable armor with only weak spot being the cupola and the gun, despite being made in China, is pretty good. The reload time is quite long but with a 5 perk crew and running food I have gotten it down to 12 seconds. Thanks for the great content.
@ivan5595
@ivan5595 2 года назад
The tank photographed in modern day is referred commonly as 七〇四分厂样车” (704 factory prototype vehicle)
@LeoMajor1
@LeoMajor1 Год назад
Wild I think C0ne was the clan I was in when I played but i quit that game it's so frustrating
@nikitashkolnikov227
@nikitashkolnikov227 3 года назад
Oh a sponsored video, sweet! good for you
@wor575
@wor575 2 года назад
interesting how this is technically CN's first step of stepping away from USSR and designing its own tanks. despite the project not working out, from the extensive tests and iterations it seemed they approached the development correctly (unlike a certain Indian MBT cough, cough).
@Pakicetus_
@Pakicetus_ Год назад
Arjun is the best tank in the universe
@souprice8046
@souprice8046 3 года назад
Made in China
@matthewzampogna7189
@matthewzampogna7189 3 года назад
Throughout RU-vid history there has been a way to fast forward and we all use it for skip the intro.
@CarmineKar98K
@CarmineKar98K 3 года назад
So, basically impatience's? Got it, understood. Fair enough have a nice day.
@christophervanoster
@christophervanoster 3 года назад
@@CarmineKar98K I watched the first two or three times. But now I just want to watch the video
@CarmineKar98K
@CarmineKar98K 3 года назад
@@christophervanoster Like I said, it's fair and I completely understand, even I skip the videos intro. But when people like him say comments like that, It's basically announcing to the world that you're impatient. By all means skip around as needed, but it didn't need to be mentioned. Was unnecessary and especially in the way he said it.
@TheTryingDutchman
@TheTryingDutchman 3 года назад
Speak for yourself, I've never even skipped it once.
@thecoopinater
@thecoopinater 3 года назад
Cone for the next video can you cover the T35
@draganraxrax7497
@draganraxrax7497 2 года назад
Thanks man for WoT.
@AceMain179
@AceMain179 3 года назад
maybe a video about the STB-1 (Type 74)?
@rleek8939
@rleek8939 3 года назад
Could you do a video on the T11E4 American tank destroyer?
@deennice6035
@deennice6035 3 года назад
Why not one on the entire T110 project
@pinkfluffyant6335
@pinkfluffyant6335 3 года назад
I still cant wait for the bob semple tank episode!
@CreeperOnYourHouse
@CreeperOnYourHouse 2 года назад
It doesn't belong in this series, it's too good.
@pinkfluffyant6335
@pinkfluffyant6335 2 года назад
@@CreeperOnYourHouse lol, it's a masterpiece
@jaymin5946
@jaymin5946 3 года назад
bro do the amx 50 line and 69 t 57 american line in one video it had new oscilating turret.
@drydogg
@drydogg 10 месяцев назад
It had a 7.92mm co-axle machine gun? I thought I heard 7.92mm. 8mm Mauser?
@elletrois1619
@elletrois1619 3 года назад
Hello mr ConeOfArc can you please do a episode on the tank o-i?
@t-34-36
@t-34-36 3 года назад
ngl the tank looks hot
@DefinitelyNotEmma
@DefinitelyNotEmma 3 года назад
Chinese tanks always look awesome
@adamholliday3391
@adamholliday3391 3 года назад
Please do a Tog 2 review
@touko_nanami
@touko_nanami Год назад
2:15 AD ENDS
@blakegoulds8313
@blakegoulds8313 4 месяца назад
You really grinding the T30? Real skill players drive meds/lights. Way more exciting too.
@Toto_Meister_01
@Toto_Meister_01 3 года назад
Could you do a video on the object 279e please
@generalslug4282
@generalslug4282 Год назад
Love playing this on world of tanks console
@ReviveHF
@ReviveHF 3 года назад
From a certain angle, WZ1224 looks like M60 Patton.
@jameshughdalton
@jameshughdalton 2 года назад
awesome vid. But having to skip to near 2 mins is a bit crap. Also, how long is your into lol
@valhalanguardsman2588
@valhalanguardsman2588 2 года назад
We stated that they would never add a smooth bore gun to their game. WZ-122 had a smooth bore 120mm gun
@aperson1139
@aperson1139 3 года назад
So did china get the blueprints and process to make the Leopard 2 tanks? That would be quite interesting if they were able to have that information, since that would mean they can some how build a copied Leopard 2 with updated technology.
@watcherzero5256
@watcherzero5256 3 года назад
They likely had outline specifications and some user manuals rather than exact blueprints as part of the German sales effort. It wouldnt have been enough to straight replicate as the parts would be lacking dimensions/metallurgy requirements but it would be enough to backwards engineer the systems.
@sixstringedthing
@sixstringedthing 10 месяцев назад
Here we have an example of Chinese technology so advanced that the very first version was able to make its designers just disappear. There's no word on whether they were ever heard from again.
@t-34-36
@t-34-36 3 года назад
Calls it WZ-*122* Gives it a fucking 120mm
@kilodekilode3992
@kilodekilode3992 3 года назад
The naming scheme 122 means, “1” being a tank, “2” means medium, and the last “2” means second their second take. As for the Wz-111 which means tank (1), classified as heavy (1), first variant (1)
@zeroyuki92
@zeroyuki92 3 года назад
@@kilodekilode3992 Ah, so that's why the light tanks are WZ-131 and 132
@masonborden5594
@masonborden5594 3 года назад
Yeehaw. Here early. Love this series cone daddy. Lol
@Chris-iy6du
@Chris-iy6du 3 года назад
Turan III, cursed by design next
@sunsys6330
@sunsys6330 2 года назад
Did anyone appreciate that the video's exactly 10 minutes?
@Snazzed_bop
@Snazzed_bop Месяц назад
I understand info is hard to get cause it’s Chinese, but does anyone have any more info about this tank? And if all possible, is it possible to purchase one of these babies? It has been my favorite tank for a long time now and if I could own one, I would live saying I had no regrets. Just having a bit of optimism.
@kringe700
@kringe700 3 года назад
Well, at least this doesn't get into production. Unlike a bunch of Iranian MBT, which is some of the most cursed Soviet/NATO mis-match ever. For example, the Zulfiqar series, which is basically the M60 being heavily modified to fit a composite armor and fitted with Soviet components.
@jintsuubest9331
@jintsuubest9331 3 года назад
If it works, then it is not curse.
@ineednochannelyoutube5384
@ineednochannelyoutube5384 2 года назад
@@jintsuubest9331 It really doesnt work. Zulfiquar would have been lacking in 1970, today its worth little more than a t34.
@PhongChu-vm2ql
@PhongChu-vm2ql 3 года назад
Do a vid about japanese late war tank
@DiscothecaImperialis
@DiscothecaImperialis 2 года назад
9:02 Tell me about chinese characters denoting photograph owner please. is a person owned this photo Chinese or Japanese? Are these chinese characters (青山 'Qingshan' or 'Aoyama' thing) at the lower right read with Chinese or Japanese pronounciations?
@Bialy_1
@Bialy_1 2 года назад
Japanese have its writing system from Chinese... so the pronunciation is different but Japanese most of the time can read and understand Chinese writing even if they do not speak Chinese(and in China the pronunciation is also not the same all over the China->writing sysem allowing them to comunicate...). btw. Why anyone from Japan would be allowed to make pictures of military tech in communist China? ;)
@kakakiri2601
@kakakiri2601 3 года назад
i like 1224 seems a good tank
@wulfleyn6498
@wulfleyn6498 Год назад
Bro this looks like something I'd make in sprocket.
@grilledlettuce4028
@grilledlettuce4028 2 года назад
Maybe I shouldn't get a degree I don't wanna be caught in the next purge
@user-xs2xe6kv8k
@user-xs2xe6kv8k 3 года назад
This video is sponsored by world of tanks Cone of arc in his previous video: this game sucks
@gansior4744
@gansior4744 3 года назад
Its just to piss of Gaijin, lets be honest
@user-xs2xe6kv8k
@user-xs2xe6kv8k 3 года назад
@@gansior4744 XD
@ConeOfArc
@ConeOfArc 3 года назад
I don't recall saying the game sucked. I said it wasn't realistic but that wasn't a negative thing to me at all.
@user-xs2xe6kv8k
@user-xs2xe6kv8k 3 года назад
@@ConeOfArc alright then
@woffle2539
@woffle2539 3 года назад
cone of arc desperately trying to get money for more golden eagles, he will stand on wot's side if it means more GE
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