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This heater has been used over winter for the past 2 years (and a bit of this year) till it finally failed to start. originally the heater was bought to test it to destruction by running it on everything it SHOULD NOT be ran on (No diesel or kerosene!). however, years on it still lives!
here we look into what happens to one of these heaters when its ran on all the things it should not be ran on.
after the clean out its fully working again!
hidden menu code is 1688 (i think)
remember, if its smoking, turn your fan speed up or your pump speed down! if it does not stop smoking, be sure the exhaust is not clogged with soot (clean it out, it can become very bad) and try cutting whatever it is you are using as fuel with a bit of "Diesel number 1" (aka kerosene or home heating oil) if you cant get that, just run it on normal road Diesel.
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@o.g.solutions
@o.g.solutions 3 года назад
Tip for u all, if you run the exhaust into a 55 gallon steel drum and then out the house from said drum you get twice the heat..just saying.
@64maxpower
@64maxpower Год назад
that's a great idea
@jeffclark5024
@jeffclark5024 Год назад
I like that idea
@drewroe3455
@drewroe3455 Год назад
You can breathe diesel exhaust fumes (carbon monoxide) although it will slowly put you to sleep then soon after... 💀
@itsnotjustyounz2813
@itsnotjustyounz2813 Год назад
Lol I don't know why I didn't think of that, your a genius
@bladi-senpai9398
@bladi-senpai9398 Год назад
@@drewroe3455 I think he said just put more surface area using the hot exhaust, but the nozzle gonna be out of the house
@twboegel2918
@twboegel2918 Год назад
You guys are fun to watch, thanks for the chuckle.
@realtimeforextraderthebrut8571
Very useful info... Good to see people keeping things running by taking them apart and cleaning everything out Keep up the good work!!!! More please!!!!!
@johndragonman
@johndragonman Год назад
I have more coming soon!
@adrianchetwynd1334
@adrianchetwynd1334 Год назад
@@johndragonman a simple fix to the fuel change over problem (cooling process) would be to install a 3 port 2 way valve on the inlet fuel pipe supply. Meaning: start up on kerosene and once hot switch over to the heavy stuff.
@loweredexpectations4927
@loweredexpectations4927 Год назад
This is not good information, it is horrible misinformation and possibly deadly. These heaters do NOT run well on waste oil and can have catastrophic failure as a result. My exhaust caught on fire, turned white hot and if I wasn't in my garage at the time, it may have burnt down. I will be posting a video soon talking about my adventures with my heater caused by misinformation such as what is found in this video.
@adrianchetwynd1334
@adrianchetwynd1334 Год назад
@@loweredexpectations4927 too much fuel and not enough air. You probably ran it at full bore but they are overrated and should never be used at full fuel flow. Search for the Vortecks YT channel, he explains it well.
@adrianchetwynd1334
@adrianchetwynd1334 Год назад
@@loweredexpectations4927 I wouldn't attempt to run on 100% oil anyway, I would dilute it with something clean and thin
@csaleen302
@csaleen302 2 года назад
Hell yes. This exactly what I was looking for and stumbled on the video by accident. Thanks for the information bud!
@davidtaylor9508
@davidtaylor9508 4 года назад
I tried this with mine a year ago with the same results. Maybe I should have made a video of it and saved you the time, lol . Good vid.
@philliplopez8745
@philliplopez8745 2 года назад
The word that you are looking for is " clinker " the hard remnant of burned coal . Good video, going to try using motor oil cut with diesel in mine .
@BeeKisses
@BeeKisses 4 года назад
The cinder-rock stuff I believe is called clinker, another great video buddy thanks
@izzzzzz6
@izzzzzz6 Год назад
Beautiful home install. Looks amazing!
@johndragonman
@johndragonman Год назад
I'm working on a better one at the moment. It will let much better than this rigged up contraption
@radleysmith7528
@radleysmith7528 Год назад
@@johndragonman Love your portable crate version of this tech, There's $$ signs appearing with an outside installation negating many regs coupled with the KW energy supply costs. The math doesn't lie whatever they blame on Putin.....Get it to market guys you may have invented the new cats eyes. I'm placing your first order here👌
@volvo09
@volvo09 3 года назад
For anyone wanting to run used motor oil just beware that this is what you'll expect real quick, so if your heater is important just keep running diesel or you'll be without heat at a bad time. I made a diy waste oil heater for my garage a few years ago and even with the burn pot getting red hot that rock like clinker stuff still showed up, and the ash accumulation was incredible, as if i was burning liquid wood. it had to be cleaned and emptied every 4-8 hours of use . It was such a pain in the ass i got rid of it. Just a fair warning to keep people out of trouble as there's lots of interest in free fuel alternatives.
@Rattlerjake1
@Rattlerjake1 Год назад
A waste oil heater is not meant to burn oil with a bunch of garbage in it. You need to either let it settle overnight so the particulates and water fall to the bottom, and/or run it through a 10 or higher micron filter, or run it through a waste oil centrifuge. Once this is done it will flow and burn as easily and cleanly as diesel or kerosene.
@hvacworkshop4791
@hvacworkshop4791 Год назад
@@Rattlerjake1 Wonder if you can make a video of your filtration, and how often to do the clean?
@Rattlerjake1
@Rattlerjake1 Год назад
@@hvacworkshop4791 - I don't have the ability or time to film and upload (no cell phone). I initially put my used oil, that I get from multiple sources, into a 55 gallon drum and allow to sit for at least a week to separate any larger solids and water. The drum is in a location where the sun can heat it up so it will filter better. From the drum it is gravity fed to another drum but through a 10 micron filter, which can be cleaned and reused (similar to this -ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-kwmpobsG-O4.html, this also shows the type of pump I use), I don't use a canister type oil filter. From that barrel it is pumped to the centrifuge (this video shows the type of centrifuge I use -ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-3rcbL4eNhFI.html) and the clean oil goes into my storage barrel. Here's a bunch more vids on different filtering techniques. ru-vid.com?search_query=filtering+waste+oil
@UQRXD
@UQRXD Год назад
Must be why they call it waste oil.
@rodkirt9273
@rodkirt9273 Год назад
Thank you for the tip ; I have access to hundreds of gallons of used motor oil , transmission fluid , hydraulic fluid and about 1,500 gallons of old ( but clean ) diesel fuel that farmers wanted to discharge because it was contaminated with water and rust while sitting in their storage tanks during the winter , before they wanted to fill their tanks up with fresh diesel in the spring ; ( for free) . Looks like , with these “ oil burners , people could heat their home , cheaply , with unusable oil products . !!
@skysurferuk
@skysurferuk Год назад
10:20 The word you're looking for is clinker. Main reason for coking up (imo) is running at lower temps, not the fuel. Always best to burn at max every now & again. Great vid, thanks for posting!
@kennethwaight9051
@kennethwaight9051 Год назад
I believe that in large quantities this stuff is called Petroleum Coke, modern steel plants use it to replace the old fashioned coal derived stuff.
@kennethwaight9051
@kennethwaight9051 Год назад
How did you come by a Chinese cab heater? All of those things that I’ve seen are Wabesto’s, very much like those that Wabesto provided to VW for beetles in the’50’s. (Air-cooled VW’s not easy to heat in the Great White North.)
@angeliquevanengelen
@angeliquevanengelen 4 года назад
Haha, that was so amusing! I have one of these under my camper and someone parked the diesel supply pipe on top of a tree trunk, flattening it. Turned on the heater and of course it started smoking. Plenty of white smoke! Looks like we'll have to open it up like you showed here and clean out the soot. Thanks guys, very amusing too
@patrickmaverol6289
@patrickmaverol6289 4 года назад
white smoke won't soot - white smoke is condensation or if it smells of diesel it is unburnt diesel which probably means it low on compression and ready to die. same theory as the diesel in my 4wd. Black smoke - burning rich WILL soot everything up, you may be able to add a little 10 dollar max valve/tap from the pump to the engine to reduce the fuel and gradually close it until the white smoke stops. Also let it run a few minutes hold your hand 5-10 cm from the exhaust (if it is just steam/condensation) your hand will be wet with water. Hope this Helps
@TheBaconWizard
@TheBaconWizard 4 года назад
Very interesting. I am making plans to run a plastic gasifier, which gives you a nice sulphur-free diesel and kerosene mix out of the end. Looks like I could burn that nicely.
@flippy9133
@flippy9133 9 месяцев назад
that ultra sonic cleaner like sound from 3:50 killed my ears, thanks
@mooregood2009
@mooregood2009 4 года назад
Great test,torture and tear down !!
@morepower3242
@morepower3242 2 года назад
Yay i can see the inside without taking mine apart
@keithandrew3079
@keithandrew3079 Год назад
Great video thanks for your great info .deisel is so expensive now here in New Zealand I am going to run mine on other stuff cheers from Keith 😉🙃
@andrewbartleman9169
@andrewbartleman9169 4 года назад
That little mesh screen cylinder is the atomizer screen. For starting, clean that one more often than not as lights the oil as it comes into contact with the glowplug and heats the next chamber where the real heat comes from
@radleysmith7528
@radleysmith7528 Год назад
Great idea guys, you've got me thinking how to modify the cat flap 🥾
@bikesandbruce5664
@bikesandbruce5664 Год назад
Very useful! Good heavens your tool bag is utter chaos.
@johndragonman
@johndragonman Год назад
Got nothing on my life!
@techtinkerin
@techtinkerin 2 года назад
I used to clean my ganja pipe in a similar way with a blow torch🤣❤️
@T2D.SteveArcs
@T2D.SteveArcs Год назад
People love these things dont they 😅 , they are awesome little beasts 👍👍
@robinjones5912
@robinjones5912 Год назад
Great video guys thank you
@aaronbuildsa
@aaronbuildsa Год назад
That plate heat exchanger (14mins in or so) reminds me of the one I took out of my old Vauxhall Omega (3.2 V6, sitting in the middle of the vee) when it failed and filled the coolant system with oil.. I could have used the ultrasonic bath to get all the milkshake out of the header tank! :)
@meansled
@meansled 2 года назад
Same problem here running it months on end just red diesel tho. I used a propane torch, a compressor with air chuck. Get the soot to burn then feed it air!
@unknown-ql1fk
@unknown-ql1fk Год назад
The key is to mix the waste oil/diesel/gasoline at roughly 50:40:10 - i just guess as i mix it all in a 5 gallon can. I will run like 25-30 gal of this then a gallon of diesel on high to get it real hot. Ive kept this pattern for like 3 yrs. The hot run of diesel is basically a self cleanse and i get a lot sparks and soot out the pipe
@johndragonman
@johndragonman Год назад
This is a good way. The hotter the better. Just like a DPF regen
@eraldorh
@eraldorh Год назад
If diesel is doing the cleaning then you may as well just run a tank of diesel through every so often and avoid all that faf, which is exactly what diesel car owners do that run them on veg oil.
@chetmyers7041
@chetmyers7041 3 года назад
21:10 The N/S "polarity" of the magnets stuck into fan is important. The Hall Effect sensor only detects one side of the magnet.
@Anvilshock
@Anvilshock Год назад
That's only half true. Hall sensors produce a measurable, proportional, and signed output for both poles. What's most likely the cause here is that the measuring electronics _after_ the sensor is set to measure the excursion in the output only in one direction, not both. Don't blame the sensor element.
@RadimStoklasa
@RadimStoklasa Год назад
Great work review
@ils360
@ils360 4 года назад
Maintenance to keep the soot down on these you run them at the highest setting for 30 minutes or more to help Cook out the soot
@johndragonman
@johndragonman 4 года назад
this one little heater heats the whole house ;) we have it set to the maximum 8hz pump speed and fan speed of 5000 RPM. its been running at 230.c on this batch of "fuel" we have been using with it.. its burning the hottest i have ever seen it in the time i have been using it. its getting way too hot for carbon buildup, but theres nothing i can really do about the buildup of clincker where the fuel is injected. my guess is its all part and parcel of burning used oil as fuel.
@johndragonman
@johndragonman 4 года назад
i will admit that i think the fan motor is on the way out. my gues is the brushes have worn down. its had some use though. at least i have a spare :D
@andrewbartleman9169
@andrewbartleman9169 4 года назад
@@johndragonman yeah I have heard of some fan motors lasting 6 months and some being faulty out of the box. I have mine running on a mix of 70% waste veg oil and 10%xylene 20% white diesel. Doesn't smoke on stock settings but doesn't fire on the first attempt, I have to try once more and it stays running
@mikefeddersen2476
@mikefeddersen2476 3 года назад
Late to your responses, my dad had a big oil burner in his shop. A big tank, probably 500 gallons, with a oil filter as it left the tank and another at the inlet. Anyway I was wondering if you could do a pump thru a luberfiner style filter of all your oil before it ever made it to the tank where it goes into your heater. Also, heats your whole house, how big is that? Wow!
@therealchayd
@therealchayd 3 года назад
Thanks for this thorough test; That's amazing that it's happily run on anything flammable, I'm increasingly more interested in getting one of these for the workshop now, given I can get loads of used veg oil and motor oil. Just thinking about the AFR on it; it's a shame there's not a sightglass into the burn chamber so you can set it for a nice blue flame (like those old Gunsons colortune things for petrol engines)
@MickeyMishra
@MickeyMishra 2 года назад
could you do the same thing by using an O2 sensor or a wideband sensor to go ahead and basically get the efficient blue flame but without a psych class? Would that work?
@laurenceperkins7468
@laurenceperkins7468 Год назад
@@MickeyMishra That's how they do it in modern engines, yes. O2 sensors are expensive though.
@loweredexpectations4927
@loweredexpectations4927 Год назад
They do NOT run happily on anything flammable. The information in this video is false and dangerous. This person is not telling the truth about something... I suspect hundreds of people have tried using these heaters on waste oils as a result of this video, and from what I have seen, no one else gets these results... I have had mine for two weeks and it almost burnt my garage down twice.
@garycraig4277
@garycraig4277 Год назад
Just got a Vevero and tried it out I’m very impressed Got it to heat out green house in Alaska so we can get our vegetables going because of the lack of heat and light
@johndragonman
@johndragonman Год назад
Nice! I recommend a backup though should it fail!
@davidroads419
@davidroads419 Год назад
I'd call that experiment a success.
@DobleWhiteAndStabley
@DobleWhiteAndStabley Год назад
Recently cleaned out my diesel heater after an e.10 error. A can of carb cleaner and a pick scrapping the crap out of the carbon and it starts up SO easy.
@64maxpower
@64maxpower Год назад
that looked way better than mine than ran 5 months 24/7 on diesel
@thekiltedkamper2855
@thekiltedkamper2855 Год назад
If you run a secondary tank with only kerosenel and some conditioner that boosts cetane and start it on straight diesel, then switch over to your oil mix and when you shut down switch back to kerosene and run it hot before you shut it down it will stay cleaner longer
@Tailss1
@Tailss1 4 года назад
I heat my whole house with one of these, only have to light the wood stove when it gets below -10c as it cannot keep up below that. There is significant heat loss out the exhaust on these, I vent mine into a masonry chimney and it gets quite warm after running on high for several hours.
@johndragonman
@johndragonman 4 года назад
my brother was looking at ways of reclaiming exhaust heat using a thing called a EGR cooler to heat water. it works really well! check out his channel at the end :D
@killerdeamonking
@killerdeamonking Год назад
@@johndragonman Heat Exchanger would work just as well.
@radleysmith7528
@radleysmith7528 Год назад
@@killerdeamonking Nicola Tesla will be both smiling and crying🤣
@patrickday4206
@patrickday4206 Год назад
Fuel with water is probably what was helping keep it clean!
@ewanrollo5527
@ewanrollo5527 Год назад
Thanks. I wanted to know if this would work with other fules and you guys have tried it years ago. This could be usefull for a lot of people just now
@davidgould8708
@davidgould8708 Год назад
Years ago I decided to fit a highly recommended item to all our cars as we were knocking up the mileage, fuel economy , clean burning , good fuel economy etc was a priority .as we were doing almost 1100 miles a week between us . So I put a Slick friction reducer in all three engines at the recommended rate and added a bit of kit that worked out at about £46 some 35 years ago The bit of kit was a catalyst cartridge, dropped in the fuel tanks at the sender units secured for easy removal on the sender unit with a very thin knitted nylon cord ..... I fitted them to my diesel BX19 TGD, my wife' petrol BX17 RD & my daughters BX leader..... it was made by a company called Broquet . I had cause to take the head off the RD which my wife had had for five or more years because it had a tiny water leak in a rad hose and my wife ignored the warning light as she was only 60 miles away from home , it over heated , warping the head , the speedo showed it had been round the clock at least once . On taking the head off I was surprised to see everything in the cylinders, on the piston heads and on the actual underside of the head & valves heads was as clean as the day it came out the factory , the exhaust manifold was exceedingly clean as well . So as a result of that experience I wonder if putting a Broquet cartridge in the oil tank would help as it is supposed to align the fuel molecules better ( It is a British invention developed in WW2 development to allow Spitfires to run on rubbish Russian petrol ).
@rizab660
@rizab660 Год назад
not much structure, but many words at this interesting project.fine, thanks.
@stonedsavage7814
@stonedsavage7814 Год назад
Those hard chunks you got out us farriers call them Klinkers we get them in our coal forges but they are massive in comparison
@bernardharvey187
@bernardharvey187 Год назад
Add some eliminox to your fuel it will sort out the water contamination, you'll get a cleaner more efficient burn and better fuel economy, less emissions, it's amazing
@TonyLing
@TonyLing Год назад
I've got a Finnsonic ultrasonic cleaner from the side of the road. It seems a bit impotent. It does blow holes in tin foil, bur generally seems a bit tame.
@paxwallacejazz
@paxwallacejazz 4 года назад
Hell just run automotive desiel with filter and blast it hard every now and again ay
@paulthomas5258
@paulthomas5258 Год назад
Great vid
@aidenjohns8248
@aidenjohns8248 3 года назад
A great informative video, i wouldn't use electical conduit as not airtight.. i was wondering why no one puts the exhaust into a 2 or 3 inch verticle flue! it will slow the gases down, and transfer to the larger exhaust pipe which will radiate heat into the room, but would keep it verticle...
@jimosullivan1389
@jimosullivan1389 Год назад
The thru air flow is what is needed to stop the unit overheating./..ANY restriction will over heat the unit pcb-ecu. Recuperation of heat on the outside of the exhaust flue will not cause a problem .
@aidenjohns8248
@aidenjohns8248 Год назад
@@jimosullivan1389 The through air is the air being heated, the exhaust gases, produce a lot of wasted heat, my point being put the small exhaust into a larger pipe, the gases will slow down, transfer heat to the lager pipe, which can then be radiated, into the living space as apposed into the atmosphere!.. but just what i have learned through experimentation
@kennethmcleod5014
@kennethmcleod5014 3 месяца назад
The reason it runs so clean is because of the high water content. Hydraulic oil absorbs water and water is great to de-carbonize hot carbon off of things. Spray water into a hot engine to clean carbon off of valves and stuff.
@LoveHateSexPain311
@LoveHateSexPain311 4 года назад
separate oil from water. filter oil. then burn. to clean unit burn transmission fluid. or a mix.
@errolfoster1101
@errolfoster1101 3 года назад
Before we built I was running a 900W 2 stroke generator and the muffler became clogged and I tried burning out the soot build up with no luck so now I thinking of convert it to steam
@brandonedwards7166
@brandonedwards7166 Год назад
I ran mine for two days on black diesel 70% oil and 30% gasoline. I had to clean it out because it looked just like yours.
@aidenmonkeynat6024
@aidenmonkeynat6024 5 месяцев назад
What are you using for cleaning solution in your ultrasonic?
@johnelliott7375
@johnelliott7375 Год назад
I will see how you do it and learn.
@dellawrence4323
@dellawrence4323 Год назад
What brand is your ultrasonic bath? I have been thinking of getting one but want to choose one that works and there is lots of crap out there.
@lookoutleo
@lookoutleo Год назад
Have you tried running on straight waste vegetable oil? Do you have to heat or mix it with other fuel?
@StevenKRose
@StevenKRose Год назад
I think I would try Berryman-B12 in my diesel to help keep it clean ?. Just a thought.
@LhDiy
@LhDiy Год назад
A review in the rain 🥶 aaah
@lorrynortheastguy4787
@lorrynortheastguy4787 8 месяцев назад
For the interest of people who like me to experiment I coked one up (my first one) it wasn't hard to work on but my mind thought of the heater plug and controller problem and only took it apart to clean (with ordinary oven cleaner) to cover all bases I thought the thing I missed after connecting rubber pipe to the to the inlet point it was also blocked a quick scrape with a bent paper clip it cracked straight up, summary: I bought bits I didn't need but great for back up, you can clean with oven cleaner, (some may have a better idea but so what there cheap) I probably could have got it going with a bent paperclip but i got some spares and about to enter year two of heating the house only from the heater nothing else
@hansjansen7047
@hansjansen7047 Год назад
The wicking inside gets dirty and then it won't start. You need to take it apart and spray it with carberator cleaner and blow out the crap with high pressure air.
@Screwdriversteve1
@Screwdriversteve1 4 года назад
The black hard bits is calked Coke. Coke is a grey, hard, and porous fuel with a high carbon content and few impurities, made by heating coal or oil in the absence of air - a destructive distillation process. It is an important industrial product, used mainly in iron ore smelting, but also as a fuel in stoves and forges when air pollution is a concern. Wikipedia :)
@andrewbartleman9169
@andrewbartleman9169 4 года назад
Cocaine is helluva drug
@radleysmith7528
@radleysmith7528 Год назад
@@andrewbartleman9169 Same burn out problem
@allynonderdonk7577
@allynonderdonk7577 4 года назад
You have to start them on diesel or kerosene and end them on diesel or kerosene . Otherwise you will get buildup. Preheat the dirty oil a little too off the exhaust gases and you will get a better burn. You would have to make a copper preheat coil or something. Don't overheat the oil though..but the exhaust don't make a lot of heat. Just gotta keep enough below flash point at all fuel flow settings.
@gothikia
@gothikia Год назад
Honestly the best way to clean this out initially and for the final scrub is Mr. Muscle foam oven cleaner. The amount of engines, intakes and exhaust headers I've cleaned in my time with that stuff is unreal. It just anhiliates any carbon build up from anything.
@johndragonman
@johndragonman Год назад
Vag vvts.. ffs. Best thing for freeing them up!
@gh-ur2lx
@gh-ur2lx Год назад
Great for cleaning sooty deposits but it’s based on sodium hydroxide and will eat aluminium components. Used it on a stainless pan years ago and it ate through the aluminium rivets.
@cricketol
@cricketol 4 года назад
did you try to use a Arduino to control the burner yet?
@robinwells8879
@robinwells8879 Год назад
My heating boiler didn’t like dexron typed hydraulic oil and coked up much the same on the flame vortex generator! On normal clean used engine oil it is absolutely fine with no smoke or aroma. Mine is diluted significantly in the 250 gal oil tank obviously. Shame to waste good hydrocarbons.
@goonluv
@goonluv Год назад
Any tips on how to clean filter used engine oil please
@billdevany3303
@billdevany3303 Год назад
I think Ide stay away from vegetable oil as it polymerizes to a rock hard plastic like gunk when not completely burned. that's why they presses it to remove the polymers it to run in a diesel engine
@jaysunkreuze1466
@jaysunkreuze1466 Год назад
You need to reduce the Hz and add fan speed to get the proper air to fuel raaatio and that soot will be greatly reduced.
@carlthor91
@carlthor91 Год назад
Sorry, #1 Diesel and Kerosene are two different fuels. In Canada, when these heaters start to foul, usually by running on #1&2 Diesel, the repair stations run them on clean straight Kerosene for 6 hours or so, if that doesn't cure it, they do a tear down and clean out , similar to the way you did. Best wishes from the far North.
@russelljones1060
@russelljones1060 4 года назад
Run the fuel line through the exhaust or the heat exchanger to preheat the oil to at least 160f but don't go to hot or carbon will form with some solvents in the fuel line. this will cut down on the build up and will help with restarts after the initial startup. burn chamber need to get above 650F to stay clean fyi. Ps if there is any residual oil b4 650f it will start vaporizing and you may have a bomb on your hands. Don't ask me how I know.
@braininavatnow9197
@braininavatnow9197 2 года назад
How do you know this?
@Cheese_1337
@Cheese_1337 Год назад
@@braininavatnow9197 unsuccessful experience, i guess
@radleysmith7528
@radleysmith7528 Год назад
@@braininavatnow9197 Perhaps John Roy Robert Searl was an early tutor
@glumpy10
@glumpy10 4 года назад
I have been Running used Veg oil in Vehicles for a LONG time. One of the things I am adamant about is running a very basic water injection system in order to prevent and clean out any deposits. It works exceptionaly well and you will always have a perfectly clean engine if you dose it regularly with water. Normally this is sprayed into the air intake as water in fuel is not good for injector pumps and injectors. I'm wondering if your watery Fuel actually helped keep your Burner cleaner than it may have been otherwise? I can think of for and against reasons But No idea which might be reality. I am thinking that perhaps some water in the intake might help here. I believe it would have a different action to water being in the fuel. It would only need a very small but constant amount, maybe something like a low pressure stream from something like a hypodermic needle. It would work it's way into the combustion chamber from there. Nothing fancy required. I am seriously thinking of one of these to heat my house this winter. The seem to be more economical that electric heating for the power out put. If I could run one on 75% WVO, that would be real economical. If the water feed kept them clean, should work till the thing wore out and Like a diesel Vehicle, would made sure they started easily as well. For an engine I implore people to dry their oil but in this case, I'm leaning more to the wet oil being a good rather than bad thing. It will cause a bit less heat output but probably a very worth while trade off if it helps keep the thing running on Sump Gunk or whatever you feed it.
@johndragonman
@johndragonman 4 года назад
First of all.. long time subscriber. Now. Thanks for the comment. Yeah ideas thinking of some kind of water mister. So the combustion intake takes that to help clean. It works good on car engines so may on this. Use water mist to clean older cars cat converters.. like the ones in my old fiats from 1991. Always works. They naturally poison the cat so the steam really gets them living again. I ran transformer oil through a car I had years back. Some of the most pure oil you can get. No impurities. More refined than diesel.
@sim6699
@sim6699 3 года назад
How do you process your wvo before putting it in your vehicle?
@glumpy10
@glumpy10 3 года назад
@@sim6699 There is a vid on it on my channel.
@MickeyMishra
@MickeyMishra 2 года назад
This might be the only really good use for a Peltier deivice and a HHO generator. It would self meter itself, and serve to clean the chamber. I always wondered if you could use something like an Induction heater style HHO Genrator that way you never have to worry about replacing electrodes. You could pass High voltage DC with the aid of some Vacuum tubes and a microwave Transformer coupled to a Ignition coil. Water is free since you live in the U.K, so using that to aid in combustion and cleaning would work a treat. Using a High voltage capacitor with an oscillator would be the perfect application for the Peltier device to get power from the heat exchange. Using something like a wideband sensor would get you the optimum burn, so this really would be the ticket to burn clean and not have to clean it as often if used at low power. It might also help running it full out as you get better fuel metering and hotter burn regardless of the fuel. Having something simular to a starting fuel computer would allow you to use Cheap old Map gas or Propane to start the thing so you don't see any deposits. However, I wonder if you could use a cermaic coating that would aid in keeping the deposits from sticking? Hmmm....
@kurtremislettmyr7108
@kurtremislettmyr7108 8 месяцев назад
Can damage bearing when fan is not running when cleaning with heat like that
@anfo9474
@anfo9474 2 года назад
Hi John, thanks for taking the time to make the video. What's your thoughts on running a 50/50 diesel/waste engine oil mix?
@johndragonman
@johndragonman 2 года назад
It's good but be prepared to have to clean it out.. although it does take a while to build up. Seem to get a lot more heat from these things on waste oil than regular diesel.
@anfo9474
@anfo9474 2 года назад
@@johndragonman Thanks, I was planning to use it every now and then and a strip down isn't any great hardship. Cheers.
@collintrolan283
@collintrolan283 Год назад
Hi John do you get a smell from useing kerosene???
@Pugwash.
@Pugwash. Год назад
@@collintrolan283 I use kerosene in my camper and my garden hut. The only smell was from a hole in the filler cap, as the really cheap ones lack any valve and covering it can cause a vacuum to form in the tank.
@mfx1
@mfx1 Год назад
A soak in strong caustic soda solution removes burnt on organic crap without affecting the metal (unless it's aluminium which won't be the case here).
@tonyweavers4292
@tonyweavers4292 Год назад
@JohnDragonMan I was interested in seeing just how far you have run the output heat duct. How many metres is it? does it still get hot at the far end?
@johndragonman
@johndragonman Год назад
yeah red hot. the duct is about 7 meters. however it is 4 inch duct. so less restrictive. the air coming out the end is well hot enough to heat the house
@UQRXD
@UQRXD Год назад
I checked the exhaust temp when new. The checked it after a year use. This will tell how much soot is built up. The more soot the less heat on hot air discharge. The more soot the higher the exhaust temp. I only run clean diesel. I was told I could run home heating oil. But have not tried yet.
@johndragonman
@johndragonman Год назад
Yes it's the way I do it too. Home heating oil is slightly more refined than road diesel it also does not have as many additives. It also sadly does not burn as hot as road diesel. However it is cheaper.
@UQRXD
@UQRXD Год назад
@@johndragonman Good to know. It's only 41 cents a gallon cheaper any way. Thanks.
@kennethmcleod5014
@kennethmcleod5014 3 месяца назад
Now I know why my 1995 7.3 powerstroke loves hydraulic oil as fuel over new engine oil i get for free from cross grad contaminated by pump flushing. Heres my special fuel mix 80%-70% hydraulic 15%-20% diesel and 5% up to 10% max gasoline preferably old gas, use as thinner/ filler because oil will give you more btu,s which really helps spooling turbo, but best used undergrad on highway low rims. Just some ideas for you guys.
@davidmitchell845
@davidmitchell845 Год назад
Feed the exhaust through an old radiator if you have enough ventilation for even more heat retention 🤒
@viscache1
@viscache1 Год назад
The most likely point of failure on these will be the fan and the fuel pump (maybe not in that order). But there is no reason that they cannot be run for thirty years before the design actually fails.
@xXRenaxChanXx
@xXRenaxChanXx Год назад
I have a feeling, if the oil was properly refined it would be significantly less of a problem. Considering vegetable oil has a similar issue in engines that goes away when it's properly refined.
@woody5109
@woody5109 Год назад
If something sounds to good to be true then it probably is. Used oil will test your patience, guck everything up, endlessly cleaning. Also, no such thing as free fuel, no such thing as clean burning oil. I’ve run these things for years as a diesel engine heater, run it all night to keep our trucks warm. Very popular in northern Canada, it’s called a pre heater, runs off your diesel tank, big deal.
@PhilVerryChannel
@PhilVerryChannel Год назад
Would you use straight filtered used motor oil or would you add 50% diesel, let's say as an example mixed with old oil? Also, I'm wondering how transmission fluid would work? Were they harder to start initially?
@johndragonman
@johndragonman Год назад
They liked used oil already quite warm the hotter the better. Yes I would cut it with diesel when it's cold. The more filtered the better too.
@layton7430
@layton7430 Год назад
How long will it run on used engine oil before needing a clean out?
@cubleycat
@cubleycat 3 года назад
Awesome thanks for sharing. are you Derbyshire lads by chance?
@johndragonman
@johndragonman 3 года назад
hey there, yeah. heh how could you tell?
@cubleycat
@cubleycat 3 года назад
@@johndragonman Im from Derbyshire lol, I know Derbyshire when I hear it lol, awesome videos on the heaters and I see you get upto alsorts of stuff so Im subscribed ;-)
@johndragonman
@johndragonman 3 года назад
@@cubleycat ahh thanks. most of my videos are nothing good but some odd ones are ok. :D
@kustumkreations
@kustumkreations Год назад
I used the hand held propane to burn out my deisel heater like you did and completely melted the center cone out of it. People DO NOT use the flame method in side of these things.
@laurenceperkins7468
@laurenceperkins7468 Год назад
Well, be careful anyway. A bunch of it's aluminum. It'll melt before it even starts to glow. You want it at about its normal operating temperature to get the carbon burning, and then just be patient.
@paulwatkins6886
@paulwatkins6886 2 года назад
Hi John, great video I was just wondering what are best advanced settings on the controller As I am using old engine oil and kerosene 50/50 and I've had oil coming out of the the breather pipe so I had to strip it all down and clean it all out.
@johndragonman
@johndragonman 2 года назад
It's different for all burners.. you kinda have to find what's best for yours. One of mine loves to have a full fan speed on both low and high settings.. the other needs to have the fan speed half way in the same settings. Start the burner off so it's running and gone through its heat up cycle the just experiment with the first 2 fan speed settings in the advanced menu. Keep the wire mesh around the glow plug clean and it will work well when set up. Try to get the fan speed low enough so its not burning and producing smoke.. but fast enough that it's not blowing the flame out. Can take some time to perfect.
@paulwatkins6886
@paulwatkins6886 2 года назад
@@johndragonman Hi John, thank you for getting back to me it helped a lot, keep up the good work, Kind regards Paul
@thecomputertech
@thecomputertech Год назад
Can you point me in the direction of the metal conduit you use to extend the exhaust ? Just looking to do similar. Thanks.
@johndragonman
@johndragonman Год назад
I got it from a scrap yard.. it's the pipe used for gas meters.
@bubbaburns1830
@bubbaburns1830 4 года назад
Filter it before use... The oil will burn cleaner... Your Pal BigBadBubbaBurns
@plasmar1
@plasmar1 2 года назад
if you don't mind saying, what settings do you have for the used oil?
@johndragonman
@johndragonman 2 года назад
i cant quite remember.. im not running much used oil at the moment as i have ran out! i have 2x lcd screens one for used oil and one for Diesel number 1 (kerro). i am pretty sure i have the fan speeds set to the maximum on both settings lower and high. the pump on high i know is maxed out at 8 hz. not sure on the lower setting. it is not often we run it at full bore though. usually have the pump speed at around 6 or 7 depending on exhaust particle content. we check the exhaust and burn with the lowest and smallest particle content we can.. then just adjust settings depending on that.
@kiddiescripterkiller
@kiddiescripterkiller 4 года назад
Oven cleaner works to clean it out.
@jj9nf
@jj9nf Год назад
Just curious, has anyone tried putting commercial additives such as redex in the fuel mixture to see if it helps decarbon the unit? You can buy one that is designed to clean the dpf on cars by burning hotter quicker. I've just started looking at these heaters as a potential boost to the household heating system, sorry if I'm asking obvious newb questions. Great vids btw.
@SPIDERM0OSE
@SPIDERM0OSE Год назад
This guy is trying to do everything right n is having terrible trouble, the complete opposite of these guys. He has just added a fuel injector cleaner to his mix, keep an eye on him. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-XjquZB_KPCc.html
@Solus
@Solus 8 месяцев назад
Did you find any answers to this? I had the same thought of using fuel cleaners
@ratgreen
@ratgreen 7 месяцев назад
I put some 2ehn in mine for a laugh as I had some laying about. It made no difference (nor did I expect it to). Redex is mainly naptha (aka white spirit)@@Solus
@davidelliott5843
@davidelliott5843 Год назад
Thick oil especially vegetable will burn like kero if you warm it. A copper coil wrapped around the exhaust will do it.
@wazza33racer
@wazza33racer Год назад
waste motor oil should be passed through a centrifuge, then filtered 2 or 4 micron and then blended with diesel. Engine oil filters are 30 or 40 micron and by the time it gets changed, its loaded with soot. People making black diesel also know that synthetic engine oil is more difficult to burn, and needs a higher ratio blend with diesel or gasoline. Stick to process used to make "black diesel" and results should be better.
@goonluv
@goonluv Год назад
I tried a 50/50 mix used engine oil big fail error 08. Any help please
@tractorman2131
@tractorman2131 4 года назад
What model is this thanks
@Citysissi
@Citysissi Год назад
Do you do anymore diesel heater fuel working testing? I would be interested to know if lamp oil can be used as diesel heater fuel?
@gbear1005
@gbear1005 9 месяцев назад
Lamp oil is kerosene.
@submechanophobia768
@submechanophobia768 Год назад
Burn anything, but don't use motor oil, It is full of solids that do not burn its guaranteed to cause problems. Stick to used automatic transmission and hydraulic fluid. mineral oil probably good too, perhaps add a bit of gasoline to thin it out and assist in the combustion. Clean motor oil in itself has additives that will precipitate in a combustion chamber. Great video though. Pushing the limits of what these things can use.
@Oofsmageroo
@Oofsmageroo Год назад
It looks like an ultrasonic cleaner with aluminum safe detergent would clean this up quite nicely and easily
@johndragonman
@johndragonman Год назад
Yes I do have one now.. I'll be making a new video soon of a new burner I am making. This time a 2kw as this 5/8kw was too powerful and always had to be ran on the lowest setting.
@damnu8089
@damnu8089 Год назад
I'm all for cleaning stuff but it's cheap as they are just buy another one but still keep the one you got
@idgaf5252
@idgaf5252 Год назад
Probs a bit late but might be worth wearing hearing protection near that ultrasonic cleaner
@T2D.SteveArcs
@T2D.SteveArcs Год назад
Alex has a channel 😮 I didn't even know 😅
@ln69bt1991
@ln69bt1991 3 года назад
Hello good video do you run yours on waste oil or a mix thanks
@johndragonman
@johndragonman 3 года назад
we pretty much always cut it with something to make it a little lighter. waste oil can be thick at times when it's cold which can cause issues.. it also reduces burn chamber Clean out intervals. waste oil holds a lot of micro particle.. when the oil is burned they stick to the burn chamber and need to be scrapped off like in the video.
@2bearms
@2bearms 2 года назад
Is there a link to this heater
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