Running a Chinese Diesel Heater on oil and blends experiment 

drain the oli from that radiator, it will burn. They are usually filled with mineral oil.

if I WAS you id mix oil and diesel 50 50 ratio oild dont got same calories as diesel soo less heat

I stopped mine working within 24 hours and had only run it for a couple of days, i was keen to get rid of oil, transmission fluids and brake fluids that I had sat in the garage which were no longer suitable for the cars we had. All were new and clean. 1st Transmission fluids stink! 2nd heater failed to start after 24 hours. Tried multiple starts to no avail, eventually decided to strip, I couldn't believe the carbon on this new unit, i suspect that one product don't know which was responsible. I cleaned everything up, still no start and white smoke, I hadn't remove the strainer but looked clear, however on subsequent removal the out (flame side) was carboned and glued up, not having a spare i merely rotated before reinserting and instant start up. I'll only dilute oils from now and due to smell, no transmission fluids.

@@thereltons3466 holy smokes dont burn brake oil thats just asking for cancer if you even get a tinyyyy sniff

Iv ran my first heater on gasoline 87 octane worked fine then I tried used cooking oil and diesel worked for a while until it wouldnt ignite anymore I now have 4 of these units and I love them

the bars DO show the body temperature of the heater.

Thank 4 the Info: how do U know the High Altitude mode is active? I tried how U described plus pushing other button however never received an indication it was active. I live @ 8200' (htr shows 2360m) & the only way 2 get any of the 5 htrs i run started is 2 set the low fan speed to 2500 rpm @ startup, Glow Plug @ 6: once its running I turn the low fan speed back to 1500 to obtain the max Case Temperature (Manifold). BTW I am running pure diesel @ the moment however have tried with used oil mixes & still have 2 adjust the fan speed on startup. In order 2 see the Case Temperature (manifold) U must have a RED Remote that specifically states it will perform that function. I cant see the Case Temp on 1 of my Red or the 2 Black Remotes I have. Can U see the Case Temp on the htrs wired display? if so provide me its specs. I have only the Blue Displays. Thank U

@@bluemanz4479 a little mountain appears on top section of the display

@@RollingThunder85👍 I was expecting 2 see that however the only time that Icon appears is when i scroll thru the menu (OK button) & it tells me the altitude in meters.

i ran a cotton seed oil "used chip fry oil" and a unleaded ethanol fuel blend with no issues for 2 whole seasons .. didnt clog up with carbon or anything

@@robburdack4361 how much percent of petrol?

@@makingcookingfixing "20% ethanol 10% unleaded fuel"

i used a wideband kit i have to lean out the mixture runs mint now 18:1 afr

I have the Blue Wired Display & I hold the Lamp + down button 2 activate priming mode. Up button turns pump on & off.

Diesel engines work fine with 20% used vegetable oil to 80% dino diesel. Older indirect injection engines can handle higher ratios so a simple drip burner should be good.

Yes use EGR cooler from car

I use one of these heaters in my camper van. The exhaust goes through an EGR valve heat exchanger from an VW Golf and used to heat water that is then circulated through an insulated tank to give us hot water for washing dishes and my girlfriends feet.

@@fuzzybobbles I'm thinking if I put a heater core or small radiator in the barrel I would have more surface area to absorb the heat. I'm trying to heat a 9x18 insulated greenhouse. With passive solar I can keep night time temps about 18 degrees warmer, but that's not enough in the winter

@@kitt080863 plants love co2 just let the exhaust gas and heat out in the greenhouse

@@mnp3713 I can think of two concerns, one would the exhaust fumes make the heater run too rich and it's a small enclosed space will it kill me!!

indeed, ive just had to open it up to clean it. Im certainly experiencing the highs and lows before i film the next video

That's why Im toying with the idea of making a dual pump controller. Clean diesel in a tank, whatever else in the other. Start and stops with clean diesel, but run on any mixture of the 2 tanks

the microphone on my camera is a bit overly sensitive. you may find its not anywhere near as loud as it seems in the video

Have you taken it out and are using it yet?

I set mine up like that. I have the Chinese unit that has the tank built in for diesel then i T’d in a 50L tank that has a 3” exhaust pipe going through it that I hooked up to the heat duct to heat the oil. I have yet to try it out to see if it works. I was also thinking about putting a little 12v heating element in the intake to preheat the air coming in to the burn chamber to help with burning the oil. Another thing I will try if the oil doesn’t burn is adding 5% gasoline.

For proof of concept I started on diesel let it run almost out then I filled it up with oil and I aimed the flexible duct at the tank and put a blow dryer near the intake and it stayed running for the full tank

It also helps to go into advanced settings and turn the fuel pump down for oil but leave the fan speed the same as factory. At first I tried raising the fan speed and dropping the fuel mixture and it started flaming out the exhaust so now I just do that for short periods of time to clean out the chamber

ive run mine the same way as he has his bolted onto a board in a window for 8 years now with no issues ... there is 2 positions they can run in ... how he has his and with the ports out the bottom

Live a little

Try throwing a lit match in a puddle of diesel. It's a whole lot different than a puddle of gasoline/petrol.

been finding my feet running used hydraulic fluid. flame outs on startup have been a big issue. reducing the max pwm and fan speed seem to be iorning the problems out. video is coming soon

@@jamesbrokentech Set Glow Plug to 6, Fan speed to 2600 on start up (lower fan speed after start to increase heat output) like Hobby said.

just done the same on mine 0.8hz min 4.0hz max afr is spot on clean burn no soot 👍🔥🔥🔥

@@brookster16v Wich model you have ? My 5/8kW model wont work below 1Hz because the temp get to low and the burner went out

The real problem is trying to run them at minimun speed. For instance, in a shed or camper. half speed to full speed works ok with most anything. Hardest so far is 15w40 full syntectic amsoil oil. 90% that and 10%premium gasoline. I suggest getting one with a old controller as you can adjust settings. This is my current limitation in my exploration on those. Older controller can also work with afterburner, a better manageament system

@@Veikra People should just run them full speed, much cleaner and burning all the fuel. If they want to be more efficient they should buy a 2KW instead of a 5KW and burn that 2kw at full speed, it's only a little over a liter for 4 hours of burn time @ full speed on a 2kw. Then again 2kw is only good for a very small camper or a van. I'm using a 5kw in my shed and it's having a hard time keeping up (uninsulated).

These don't run waste oil well. This video is false advertising.

​@@plainandsimple1 Well tell us your personal EXPERIENCE with doing this, Including how you adjusted the air fuel ratios for the highest temperature.

@johnwyman6126 go over to "lowered expectations" RU-vid channel and you can watch over 30 in depth videos about how they absolutely will not run on waste oil for any length of time over 6-12ish hours without a full tear down and cleaning. He's also in the process of building a modified combustion chamber so it will actually work.

This vid is about one of these heaters being taken apart after 3 yrs of running various oils. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qpLhwuy9M9E.html

Hi,how do you reduce pump pulse? Thanks😊

​​@@katarinaespwall8542 Secret menu in some controllers, there are RU-vid videos telling you how to do it.

A mix of 22% gasoline and 78% waste engine oil that has been filtered to 5 micron is a drop in replacement for diesel in a mechanical injection diesel......do not use hydraulic oil as it has anti-friction additives that don't burn and turn into a ash cokes up the cylinder head and precombustion chamber in an indirect injection diesel to the point that it doesn't run very well after a few hundred miles, engine oil doesn't have these additives.

@@unhippy1 cool thanks for the explanation.

yeah, well, you dont want to look at the insides of that engine. That will probably be completely black. You say it ran fine for years. But i promise you: It was for sure not used daily for many miles a day. It was used for the occasional trip around the block. Try what you said in this heater. Try waste oil, etc etc. Check David Mcluckie. He just came out with a new video on diesel heaters burning waste oil. It is pretty obvious what is going to happen to the heater. So a car running on such garbage?????? Sure, it will run for some time, maybe even years. Depending on how much you use it. But for sure it is gonna clog up channels that should be open.

ps: and the rebuilding of an engine might be more expensive than burning the correct fuel. But, it all depends on where you live, what you use the car for, etc etc.

@@bertjesklotepino I know from personal experience that as long as you are running used engine oil cut with approximately 20 to 23% gas (to make it the same viscosity as diesel) that has been filtered to 5 micron or less you won't have issues even after some 100k miles.....try it with hydraulic oil and your going to be looking at a rebuild in about 5k miles or less......

It's OK to mount sideways as long as the glow plug is at the top.

Mix ten percent petrol with the oil

Prime the entire fuel line with pure diesel first to get burner "warmed up"

Yes but one side is worse because of the glow plug screen they run every direction except for one!

Ive read that synthetic will not work. Ill be switching my vehicles to "normal" oil

They do... Just mix with a small amount of Diesel/Petrol and warm it up (Filter the old oil first), also you can pre start with Kerosene or paraffin! In line filters for both and a Y connector for both fuel types with auto switch on a timer (5 mins on start up fuel then it switches to old oil mix) Ran mine like this for a year then a strip down clean in summer, NOT to dirty either inside!

How did you do the timer?

there are a few videos on youtube from people doing just that.

This vid is about one of these heaters being taken apart after 3 yrs of running various oils. ru-vid.com/video/%D0%B2%D0%B8%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%BE-qpLhwuy9M9E.html

Ps run on diesel full power before shut to clean all the crap out of it ready for next start up

Aliexpress and Amazon and many others sell them

China 👍

i ran mine for 2 whole seasons on chip fryer oil and unleaded fuel blend with no issues just filtering the oil and mixing it down with the unleaded works fine no carbon issues

@@robburdack4361 Okay what mix worked for you? did you change settings, i only have mountainmode on mine, and burns better but waste a lot through exhaust. i have a bit of problems running mine on wvo mix diesel and gasoline - though i broke some gills of the burner and stuck a cobber u- pipe so now he fuel is around 50celcius burns a lot better and now 10-15% hotter around 180c like before with only pure diesel.

@@mnp3713 can that pump handle the hot oil?

@@makingcookingfixing the heated oil line is on the line after the pump :)

The manufacture says it runs on diesel only. It is not recommended to burn used oil.

@@patrickanderson4680 Ofc they do. But it still does.

The efficacy might be increased, but you will dry out the internal air. That is why people take air from the outside as it has a higher moisture content.

So basically what your saying is everything gas safety says about requiring fresh air for combustion is wrong?

While from an efficiency perspective reheating internal air is best , in fact bringing in outside air reduces the moisture content within a home. With a truck its not always possible to prevent engine smells etc comi g in the inlet pipe hence using cabin air. I measured humidity levels at home and even without the 2ltrs per hour on a average 2 people will exhale my home humidity went down from 65 to 50 percent as I guess damp air was pushed out through air gaps.

ive read it wont work,

What they dont know wont hurt them

Only illegal if caught!🤷‍♂️😉

I think the police courts have more important crimes to deal with ;-)

@@gordontomaszewski1420 That is not the point if everyone thought like that we would in a very bad state. This is demonstrated by those who do not stick to speed limits.

@@tjm3900 That is not the point. If I had that next door to me I'd report it.

@@g7mks383 Its only illegal because the gov can't tax it. what do you think happens to the waste oil generated by shops? Its sold and burned. If i had neighbors like you id move.