Chinese Keeps Are INSANE 

Aoe2 has the highest player count

@@noahmorales3768 aoe 2 definitive right ? I wanna buy it and start playing again lol

Most people do 1v1 primarily

@@KonnorGann i understand. Still alot play co op so good for a video to switch things ip

​@@KonnorGannno they dont ... Watch leaderboard numbers by yourself ...

He is an English main. Let the man cast what he wants to.

cause ppl only play french enligsh chinese

China winrate needs all the help it can get at the moment.

@@dawgamonggators people are bad with china dont mean is a bad civ, is pretty high tier civ. not that im that good to use it but thats on the player

@@dawgamonggators Win rate is not a good indicator of the capabilities of a civ. The Ottomans have an insane win rate right now, in Ranked, however truthfully they are one of the worst late game civs because they have nothing going for them late game, no insane eco or unlimited gold, and no powerful late game unit that makes Chuck Norris cry. Only reason why the Ottomans have a high win rate is because the games are ended in 20 minutes, before they reach Imperial. Now China is an interesting case, China is very difficult to play. Like no noob can pick up China and expect to instantly know how to properly play them, simply because China is a difficult civ to understand well. However since China has such a busted economy, and if they manage to make it into castle or imperial. You're kinda just dead and should quit unless you are playing China yourself.

​@@lostmntthat should mean that the higher the league china should be higher in the ranks but that is not happening either (china is tied for second worst in conqueror). Then are top players saying the civ is very good, but is it worth it to have a civ that the difficulty pays off only for 0.001% of all players because "everyone else is bad"?

​@@Cyanide_and_LonelinessExperts(top players) opinions are the most valuable indicator of game balance, then there is the raw data (win rates), and lastly the least useful indicator is the biased opinion of of average players. Yet China always gets a lot of hate from average players when in their tier china is not performing good at all because the average player sucks at playing china. Team game players affect this a lot because as you said, if a china player goes super greedy his economy will be unstoppable. Going super greedy with china is super hard to pull off unless the map covers you or for some reason your enemy doesn't attack for 20 minutes like in team games. So yeah, if you go 3 TC song you will be unstoppable when it pays off, does that mean the civ is too strong? not really because it is hard to pull it off. On the other hand Ottomans are very capable at ending the game before their late game weakness is relevant, does that make them a bad civ? not at all... China water eco is too strong IMO, but i always see people wanting to nerf everything else...

True! Also it’s pronounced athanati like Ashanti.

Out of context comment lol

All these ottoman pro players. Little crybaby even if bombard and janissary (btw in a completely fine spot, just different usage than you would like) would be super good you would still comment and hate the game all day long. Gtfo

This meme about Ottomans and Jans has been ongoing since their release, I’ve become convinced you’re all bots 😂

​@@TypeErrorDubsthey are the bottomans

@@adamb6108 These guys are so annoying that I hope the devs remove ottomans from the game

same

yea it's an obvious wall, he certainly choose to not building it

What?

ETA?