CHM Live | Original iPhone Software Team Leader Scott Forstall (Part Two) 

It's actually quite a simple trick. Make the user interface feel light and have real world elements integrated into it with lots of margins and padding to make it feel spacious like a planet. The new MacOS and iOS just have so many random features and ancient UI elements dotted all over the place they feel claggy and cluttered.

a trick : you can watch movies on Flixzone. Been using it for watching lots of of movies these days.

@Kole Melvin yea, I've been watching on Flixzone for since december myself :)

@Kole Melvin Definitely, been using Flixzone for since december myself =)

Same!

I wish he was still there too. I wonder if he'll ever write a book explaining what happened at Apple in 2012 when Tim is long retired. I think it's a totally different company than back then now.

No, sweetheart: the soul of Apple were /are, beside Jobs, the figures like Avie Tevanian, Johnny Ives, Jon Rubinstein, Serlet maybe... Not this cretin.

and u know this how?

Apple gets worse and worse ever version since Steve died and Tim Cook fired Scott. Apple has always been about the software. I would love IOS on any hardware. I won't go android because of IOS.

Peter d'Entremont Though we won’t know what would become of Apple had Jobs still be alive and Scott still with Apple, I still enjoy my iPhone Xr and iPod Pro. Not sure what else you can do with technology that’s so matured. Of course I’m not engineer so who am I to say?

I agree, they were soulmates

same :( rip steve

Love Scott’s animated way of talking, I miss seeing Steve on stage but by the same token I also miss seeing Scott on that same stage too, both have such a powerful prescience.

lol

This comment is underrated.

It's already happening it's just not that much noticeable. The fly-wheel will spin for a long time without additional force applied.

It’s been 7 years, get over it.

@@rambleshaker8806 stfu iOS 6 was the best no doubt

Lol

He did say they had 4 of them so probably.

wish someone would explain what happened 2011 2012

@@buowerc The new book 'After Steve' by Tripp Mickle explains a lot of it. Worth a read.

Bas Ording

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the touch technology was started before the iPhone, b/c they were going to build the iPad and ended up just using the iPad technology in the iPhone.

Why?

@@remasher I just feel like the way he tells stories is a bit different, maybe more exciting than usual compared to other people who work in tech.

like a "Social Network" type movie but about the iPhone creation and the keynote and how it was so choreographed down to the very keystroke? that'd be an interesting film. I wish the Steve Jobs movie would've gone into the later days of Apple with the Macbook, iPad, and iPhone.

bigtakeshi like he said they wanted to see if apple would have to create their own network or be able to partner with a carrier that only worried about the connect for the phone. If they had created it and and look for a carrier it probably would have taken long to get a deal.

Yes, basically donate a building with his name on it.

He is

Scott was known as the second Steve Jobs and likely successor as Apple CEO. Many Apple executives disliked him, including Tim Cook, and wanted him gone to as part of a initiative to purge those that Jobs was most closest to as they were considered too hard to work with. When Apple Maps controversy happened, Tim considered it the last straw and “justifyingly” fired him.

Cook just wanted him out regardless. Think about it.

He wasn't fired because of that, a lot of the employees already struggled to work with him since Steve died, so he would've been fired regardless. Read the book 'After Steve' by Tripp Mickle, goes into a lot of detail into that time period.

CLOSED FOR MAINTENANCE - The iOS with the best design

@@blankearth5840 so what you think , it's like finding gold in away

@@fireteehee iOS 6 was the best no doubt

no it wasnt.. it was quickly seeing mass adoption. Especially in the younger crowd because of BBM. Literally everyone in my college [around 800 ppl] had blackberry's and I was there with my Nokia N ninty-five, holding my balls.

RltchieI no it has something todo with using an very old pice of software and slap some new stuff to hide all those things wich are not ideal for the new processors. It works but it looks and feels ugly if you code with it i don’t need to have a vtable for every object i create.

it is just a feeling. it has not. one true thing is with public beta there are so many bugs still nothing with UI and i am telling this after more than 3 years of using public beta!

My iPhone X is the best so far. Significantly improved in every way compared to the 6 I had before it. I have not noticed what you are referring to. Kudos to the team that developed it.

iPhone X is the best phone ever produced. Cook’s legacy is just as incredible as Jobs...

The the current design of iOS is so lifeless

He chose that design language because it was relatable and easy to understand; and to many, fun and enjoyable to use. I have tested this theory before with my grandmother. I handed her a modern iPad and told her to do a few simple tasks and she managed to get lost immediately. I handed her an iPad running iOS 6, with Forstall's UI and she immediately understood it like it was second nature; and it was not because she figured it out on the newer iPad, I gave her the old one so she could figure out how to do the tasks, because she was lost on the modern UI. Visual cues play a massive part in design, especially with UI/UX and modern flat designs lack these for reasons that are beyond my comprehension. Everyone tried to justify the iOS 7 redesign, saying things like, "Everyone knows how to use their device now." What about newer generations? What about people that have never used an iPhone? What about older generations that have resisted trying smart devices for ages? It crippled the approachability of iOS that Forstall mentioned numerous times. Not everyone liked the visual design of legacy iOS, even Forstall admitted he wasn't a fan of some of the designs they made, but that isn't the point. The point was, keep it simple stupid. If you judge Forstall's design teams for the visual appeal alone, you have completely missed the point in favor of a subjective preference. You are correct that the designs were not perfect, but the approachability and ease of use provided by legacy iOS is unmatched by any modern mobile UI, including iOS 16 and 17.

Those are two different things. I'm sure they must have tried it. It's just a shot in the dark. When a person is dying, the people near them, their friends, family .. they try everything and anything to save his/her life. In scott's case it worked, no one knows how but it's irrelevant. I don't know if you were trying to mock through this comment.

Acupuncture and Chinese medicine has saved my wife too

But that was true, he said “we” as in the people at Apple including those who came from Fingerworks. Though they did change a lot from that original technology, like making the touch surface a display and having it react with fluidity, making it feel much more intuitive for the average person. The original fingerworks technology was not that intuitive.

Apple is the fist trillion dollar company in the US

Lmao Apple isn’t dying

@@memethanYT Not yet

It is sad to see you don’t know how to express your opinion without insulting a group of people about their age. Try again.

@@AD-ky5ci boomers are the worst. I support this ageism in this context. Boomers always have this stupid nostalgia about "the good old days" when things were actually worse.