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Chri$topher Ward Is Dead! Long Live Chri$$$topher Ward!

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CW are continuing to head in one direction, and that direction is north! In some ways it is a shame that they are drifting away from their affordable roots. But in other ways it is a pleasure to watch them produce innovative pieces like this, that still undercut the competition by big margins. Cheers, Jody

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@_all_around_us 3 месяца назад

Never got the appeal of the skeletonized look in general. A clean, simpler design is so so much more satisfying to look at.

@RJ-cq8dd 3 месяца назад

So so much more boring as well.

@tivobelievo 3 месяца назад

Yeah, but when you've already got over a hundred "clean, simple" watches, you need some spice. Plus, this thing is just a marvel. I'd prefer it in steel though.

@GeniusInventor-dj5zc 3 месяца назад

It’s nice to have a skeletonized watch when every other watch you have is a normal design

@Megatraum504 3 месяца назад

exactly. i have same movement in my CW watch with a proper dial. costed less than half......

@iamamucha2914 3 месяца назад

I think it really depends on what watch you're talking about and what part of collecting you're at as well. If it's a higher end watch seeing the movement is a wonder to all. However higher end watches will have beautiful finishing and really show just how good they are at what they do. You can't hide imperfections behind a canvas since most of the watch will be on display. I personally don't like skeleton watches as much because they usually show what's past the exhibition case back i.e. my hairy arms that make the watch look bad lol. As a piece of art though I do think skeletons will always look fascinating and a step above a typical normal dial watch unless that dial is absolutely gorgeous with patters or materials.

@polmacliam2444 3 месяца назад

The logo on the rotor reminds me of the name labels my mum sewed into my sports kit when I was at school!

@MrShoryuken1 3 месяца назад

Yes, it's much too loud. They'd be better off making it smaller and just engraved into the rotor with no paint.

@NicholasSadlier 3 месяца назад

CW CEO Mike France said on Monday that the micro-adjust would filter down to the regular Twelves. I think you're right re brand positioning, a bit like upmarket car manufacturers pushing the boat out on the F1 race track - it's more about brand-building than selling big numbers of these particular watches.

@BenGoodbrand 3 месяца назад

Great news! Planned to add a SS Twelve to the collection so I'll wait until then

@Msgt_Slim 3 месяца назад

Not my bag of crisps, Mate. And a bloody expensive bag at that.

@IOSALive 3 месяца назад

Just One More Watch, Subscribed because your videos are so much fun!

@JustOneMoreWatch 3 месяца назад

Thanks you very much and welcome!

@gerardcampbell3981 3 месяца назад

Have to admit I spent the first couple of minutes deciphering your T-shirt, Jody! This watch isn't my jam but each to their own, right?

@XiaoAnon 3 месяца назад

Literally 15 seconds for the T shirt, but its a niche skill - I am sure you are far more successful in general life and have a better watch collection than me my friend. My own collection fav is a Vostok Amphibia 42mm on a NATO,(I dont have a 7inch wrist) I also have mutliple GShocks my fav being a green GD 400. As you say each to their own. CW for thousands, not so much. Peace to all, whatever your watch brand preference (I hear Erebus are up and coming - I'm waiting for their field watch )😀

@briteppr62 3 месяца назад

@@XiaoAnon15 seconds to decipher it is about right.

@robertbeirne9813 3 месяца назад

Took me a minute or two, then I realized a 7 is a T.

@damianosavraammisaelidis9727 3 месяца назад

Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.

@stephens2r338 3 месяца назад

@@damianosavraammisaelidis9727 Quote by Stephen Hawkins

@kendallgtull1592 3 месяца назад

It's a really nice piece and the quality when you hold it in hand is obvious. I had the opportunity to handle it at Intersect Atlanta last month. Price is spicy and it makes me realise how much of a bargain the Zelos Mirage was when it launched. That was around US$4K for the titanium version on bracelet and included a fitted rubber strap. It also featured a hardness coating on the case and bracelet and has the LJP 8 day power reserve movement customised for Zelos. The Twelve is a great watch but I think I'd go with the standard versions.

@artswri 3 месяца назад

Nice skeleton. Out of my price range unfortunately...

@redflag4781 3 месяца назад

It's a bloody, expensive full stop. We are in the real world, no?

@Scott_Graham 3 месяца назад

Great shirt.

@pzwolski 3 месяца назад

I do not want to adapt. I can, but I do not want. 😁

@GavinKohAquascaping 3 месяца назад

On a different note, I like your new black, textured background over the world map. Very professional, which, of course, you are!

@emeenattoor 3 месяца назад

Very fair review! I think instead of comparing this with the zenith like many others compare this to. I'd compare this with the Zelos Mirage 2. Honestly they are both well reputed microbrands. The design on the Zelos wins for me: it is more in sync with brand design language The skeletonization is more legible Longer power reserve with 8 days The titanium case has a hardness coating which makes it as durable as SS if not better The Swiss movement by LJP is equally well finished. Lume is Superior.8 Having said all this, I'm glad Christopher Ward is experimenting so much with new stuff. I just hope they don't price themselves out of what I think they should remain; a good value microbrand offering high end products at a relatively good value

@Robespierres_Ghost 3 месяца назад

Very cool watch but no I'm not paying $5k for one. A grey market Oris pro pilot skeleton is around the same price.

@fahadkhan-db6bh 3 месяца назад

Such a clasp adjustment is also available on the Czapek Antarctique 😉

@nicksims2827 3 месяца назад

I really enjoyed this video - both the review and the ‘Jody Thinks’ at the end 🙂 FWIW, I totally agree - even to the point that I think this is the equivalent of a concept car rather than a watch they intend to sell in any volume. This is all about CW repositioning. I bought a C60 Sapphire 3 years ago (great watch btw, I love it) on a bracelet for £795. That was a standard CW price at the time. Now, a C60, C65 or C63 is much closer to £1000. They’re definitely after Longines etc and, when you look at their branding plus engineering, I suspect their long term goal is to move up towards a kind of Tudor £3000 level - though they’re clearly not there yet. I definitely think that CW can’t really be described as a microbrand now, there’s nothing micro about them

@jeff1176 3 месяца назад

It's definitely a nice piece. However, the huge detractors for me are the price, the integrated bracelet, the strange angle of the mid case lugs, and lastly the butterfly clasp. They always pop open on me, whether I wear them tight or loose on the wrist, they always pop open. So for me, it's a no-go.

@HydrogenAlpha 3 месяца назад

I have a Twelve titanium and the clasp would never pop open on it in a million years. The CW ones are well made.

@joshprice333 3 месяца назад

Hey Jody, may want to check the Aussie dollar conversion. Reckon you’re about $1,400 short.

@flemmingsorensen5470 3 месяца назад

I couldnt care less, if a macro lens spies "rough edges" or not - only what I can see with my naked eye matters. The price, well if you want a watch (or any other product) bad enough and have the available funds, then its not too expensive. CW knows how to do business, and they probably also know that creating a halo model, is about marketing more that direct model related profits (ROI). Btw: that clasp is bloody brilliant👍 PS: how is the after sales service on a grey market Zenith....🤨

@rstm13 3 месяца назад

Jody keeps demonstrating the gold standard for a watch channel. Such an honest review, especially the backend of the video was very fair and balanced.

@IOSALive 3 месяца назад

Just One More Watch, Your videos always make me happy, so I subscribed!

@Mark-sd7fc 3 месяца назад

I’m sorry, how much did you say that $500 watch cost??

@WatchesBeAwesome 3 месяца назад

Love your content! Thank you!

@forrest225 3 месяца назад

It looks ok for a skeletonized watch I guess, but I'd prefer the awesome power reserve with a normal dial.

@slash.9882 3 месяца назад

that expandable bracelet is very nice

@moneymikz 3 месяца назад

An adjustable B Fly is huge indeed

@alfieakaronaldog 3 месяца назад

It is very good but I prefer a three fold anyway. Puts Grand Seiko to shame if Christopher Ward can put micro adjustment on a flush concealed butterfly and they cannot (will not?) put it on a flush three fold!

@Barbecuejag 3 месяца назад

Zodiac has something similar on their butterfly clasps - more flex as opposed to an actual extension, but the give certainly helps with the comfort. That said, i absolutely HATE the skeletonized design of this one. Certainly no interest from me at this asking price.

@danielleclare2938 3 месяца назад

I can think of a lot of timepieces I would want more than that for the price. Jomashop will have them in stock for $1899 if you can wait a year.

@joeblackwolf17 3 месяца назад

That’s a beautiful looking piece.

@markwheeler4417 3 месяца назад

Someone on the CW forum managed to do a guestimate calculation on the number of C12X that were in the initial ordering frenzy. Their estimate was 600. That's quite a lot of SH21 movements as it has mainly been used in LEs. The machine polishing must have helped them as the C60 Concept which was the previous skeleton from CW was an LE of 300.

@alfieakaronaldog 3 месяца назад

I discovered the C60 Concept because of this release and much preferred that. The movement and lume looked better. Love CW got the micro adjustment on a butterfly, even though I prefer 3 fold! Puts Grand Seiko to shame lol.

@andreaiacolina 3 месяца назад

This is not for me, in terms of design and it's for sure expensive for a CW, but on the other hand this could probably be considered a competitor of the Oris Pro Pilot X skeleton with the caliber 115 that is currently priced at 8k, so from this point of view it's not so bad.

@azri79 3 месяца назад

It's a beautiful watch with cosc movement. But maybe at same price bracket I'd go for zenith skeleton instead

@andrewbourn1513 3 месяца назад

Dr. Ian Malcolm would have words with CW on this one. "Your engineers were so concerned about whether they could..."

@whichwatch5651 3 месяца назад

Jody, your shirt game is improving consistently these days.

@CraigG21 3 месяца назад

Hallelujah to the butterfly clasp adjustment!! 🙌 Zodiac also has something very similar on their jubilee style bracelets.

@robedmunds7163 3 месяца назад

Lovely, but what's the time? The main function, should still be well, functional

@DrNitin14 3 месяца назад

For the money I could quite happily put this up vs the zenith. It's movement is better is clasp is better it also wears smaller and more compact and it has quick release on the bracelet and rubber. For me this is a halo model for Christopher Ward and I'm glad it's not a limited edition.

@stephenspain9167 3 месяца назад

interesting but I think if they go this route that need to make the mechanism more artist

@ImTheDudeMan471 3 месяца назад

At a glance, I can clearly see it's "over there hour, some minutes o'clock". After a 1 minute glance, it's definitely 9 or 10 o'clock, kinda just past the hour maybe. Great watch....

@GingerDownUnder 3 месяца назад

Forget the watch, I just love the T-shirt 👍

@markikn3183 3 месяца назад

Spot on, Jody. Happy to see CW do this watch, my personal taste on skellingtons is neither here nor there (fwiw no thanks). But the way they are moving up the price ladder and starting to play in the Longines/Tudor/Oris pool is the main takeaway.

@mstevens113 3 месяца назад

I have a Ward bought 4 year ago but the prices have now crept into the range i won't justify over other priorities.

@markplayford5836 3 месяца назад

Not really much to add to your fire side chat there Jody as I think you made some very valid points. I would much prefer the standard Ti 12 IF you can call that standard! Like you said this is niche Ward and for some it’s just what they want, plus there is no doubt this is a bit of a technological marvel. Well done CW 👏👏👏

@rodsalvador3608 3 месяца назад

Love and own the Oris ProPilot X 115. The CW beats it on size, bezel finishing and that nifty on the fly adjustment! I'm not hating this; good job CW. My money would still go to the Bel Canto, though.

@terrysky83 3 месяца назад

Brilliant roasting by Jordi 👍 bravo 🎉

@JustOneMoreWatch 3 месяца назад

I would not have said that was a roasting! Just an honest assessment of a $5000 CW.

@TheFrankm3 3 месяца назад

This watch doesn’t need roasting. Just a photo and the price will suffice.

@WaltervonKurzgesagt 3 месяца назад

struggling to differentiate between the front and the back of the watch

@michaelrobinson4421 3 месяца назад

Jodi, I love the T-shirt, where'd you get it?

@scottlauren3145 3 месяца назад

Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change. Agreed 100%. I kinda dig this CW watch and I'm usually not a huge fan of their stuff.

@DrTerryBooth 3 месяца назад

Glad they kept the same packaging. Definitely a Marmite watch for me. Next step from the Bel Canto? Straying too far into Hublot territory?

@Mohika881 3 месяца назад

Very insightful presentation. I agree that CW will try to move up the ladder in pricing and quality. It’s a logical thing to do and they do seem to strive to take the company forward.

@stancashman2318 3 месяца назад

I like it Jody, almost as much as I like your shirt! 😁 But just too expensive to justify for me!

@ChrisDeLosSantos 3 месяца назад

The VC Overseas also has the micro adjustment system on their butterfly bracelets

@michaelgreenhalgh3369 3 месяца назад

A nightmare of cogwheels and springs 😱

@jesseGfragrance 3 месяца назад

I’m considering it highly, I’m getting a watch this year to celebrate my upcoming Chicago marathon , The new coke Tudor gmt or this Christopher ward 12 x, will be my choice , unless a Rolex ad pulls through

@JustOneMoreWatch 3 месяца назад

Good luck with the marathon! The last quarter is a grind, but well worth it.

@1SaG 3 месяца назад

Probably not a popular opinion, but I never got the Twelve (or any of the other Genta-inspired, integrated bracelet designs that have been popping up in recent years) and I don't get this one either. From a technical POV, it's great to see that CW (and the Swiss factory that does their manufacturing) are able to pull this off, but I'm not quite sure who this watch is meant for at this price. Mechanical details aside: This is still a watch you'll have to buy online - for Tudor- or Omega-money. I just hope this isn't a precursor to a further move up-market by the brand.

@adamnagy7599 3 месяца назад

Well… It’s not the Bel Canto… What I do like is the shirt!

@Mike-DuBose 3 месяца назад

Cool watch, great shirt!

@johnzimmerman1819 3 месяца назад

Love CW, love the “twin flags” logo, love the XII, hate skeletonized watches.

@Steve-xv9ir 3 месяца назад

This is the first honest review I've seen of this watch where the reviewer has actually dared give a negative opinion on something! Every other review I have seen has been more of a spec. check and letting us all know how good CW are! Well done to Jody for saying it how it is.

@K.J.H_ 3 месяца назад

If Christopher Ward wants to print money they just have to make the c60 trident pro 300 in titanium. Dont drab the colour scheme, dont give it a helium valve or do anything weird. Maybe upgrade to the 56hour sw300, keep the date. Absolute pelagos 39 killer.

@joebasford3319 3 месяца назад

How much!! 😮 Hopefully no QC issues when you receive it. Good luck with getting in touch with Customer Services.

@thewristwatchnewschannel 3 месяца назад

Butterfly adjustment clasp!. Take my money, well done CW.

@DXPetti 3 месяца назад

Rado Captain Cook Ceramic Skeleton is very similar priced (and most likely less when going through a AD). But, I will admit, the CW Skeletisation is on a level that is nearly unmatched.

@fergulator7297 3 месяца назад

CW need to remember who their base is, forgetting that can be a mistake,looks ok but people with $6-7000 ain't buying CW. Also Vacheron do that butterfly extension,it's good to see it on CW bracelet

@MrShoryuken1 3 месяца назад

Agreed but suspect that this is intended as a halo piece, all luxury brands seem to do this. Same reason they've released their minute repeater. I suspect they don't sell that many!

@DC-uf6ve 3 месяца назад

I think they're trying to shed people like you. I can see their point.

@rag_man673 3 месяца назад

I think making the bridges black, not grey, and giving it "floating" indices off the chapter ring (creating contrast) might help make it more legible. I'm not a big fan of skeleton watches because of legibility reasons, but it's not a bad looking watch over all.

@ctdavis3277 3 месяца назад

I’m not keen on skeletonized dials, with rare exceptions such as the Accutron Spaceview, but generally I feel like this is decent value for what you get.

@armandr1613 3 месяца назад

Those $ signs concern me 😐

@JustOneMoreWatch 3 месяца назад

Sign O The Times.

@alextryan 3 месяца назад

Best review of this piece. The Zenith fails because it makes the skeletonized bridges the positive space but the arbitrary shape of those pieces is boring -- who cares what random shapes they thought up? -- whereas the CW succeeds in letting the anthracite bridges be the negative space so that the mechanism itself becomes the visual feature. The Oris.... is just a hideous disaster of nonsensical geometry I guess made to tickle weak minds? I've had my eye out for a skeleton that succeeds for YEARS and this is the first I've encountered. I do hope I can get used to actually telling time with it. I have done a lot of amateur watch repair and a piece that communicates my fondness for minimalism AND my affection for all those little whirlygig parts is exactly what I've been awaiting.

@ashleybowman440 3 месяца назад

Spent ages writing a comment in T-shirtish and RU-vid filtered it out!

@ph8077 3 месяца назад

I get censored by YT 80% of the time if I give an opinion - they usually allow my comments complaining about it though ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

@adk7962 3 месяца назад

It is a bit complicated for me. I’m glad and not glad they are moving more upmarket. As for this watch, it’s fantastic but not quite for me. And for the money, I’m looking at several other watches, GS, Tudor, etc. before I would pick this one up. Not that I can afford any of these anyway! Thanks for the great review as always!

@wristopia4101 3 месяца назад

I think the grade 5 Ti is a bit of a red herring, and those scratches on the grade 2 case kind of prove my point. Having grade 5 on the bezel (next to the crystal) and case back seems pointless. Omega mix grade 2 and 5 on one of their Speedmaster Pros, but the grade 5 is the clasp ; )

@tikkathreebarrels 3 месяца назад

This stunner is not in everyone's price range and Jody looking north of £4k doesn't help those guys who say this costs too much (which it doesn't). You like skelly-bobs or you don't. You can live with the price or you can't. Most of CW's range are £1k or thereabouts. The old saying "You can't buy a $50 cigar for $15" applies here. Let's not forget this is the 20th Anniversay offering from the brand.

@michaelredding6219 3 месяца назад

"Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change," and I'm hoping this new 12 inspires the inevitable Erebus 3 Ti! 😎

@thompsonterry4804 3 месяца назад

This new Skele-Twelve is definitely in the halo/apex range for the CW catalogue. Looks great, impressive design and engineering. I’m not sold on the skeleton work as a look. But it is a brilliant watch. Bravo, CW. As to the price, this feels like an extension of the CW line that makes sense to me: not limited supply, but not a daily for the average buyer either. I think the XIIX will be aspirational as they maintain the entry lux Trident/Sealander/Aquitaine models as well.

@vaclav_fejt 3 месяца назад

CW got lately: - Bel Canto - The Twelve in two sizes - atop a portfolio of solid sports watches. Logically, a price hike was inevitable. As well as a value misstep. But that clasp is sweet.

@lordcharfield4529 3 месяца назад

Nice! I’ve got the Atoll 300 in Reef Blue - love it to bits!

@cosmic-tiger 3 месяца назад

It is expensive, too expensive for me. But I appreciate the skeleton layout is well done & looks well crafted. I’m sure there are plenty of people out there that won’t blink at the price.

@Box_13 3 месяца назад

Jody, your font with the dimensions could be a bit more substantial. It looks good and looks more refined, but is just a little light to read. Exceptionally cool watch, thanks for the review.

@Ae073001 3 месяца назад

If this had Omega or any other brand with equity, there would be no concern. Because it is a CW it's a concern. Look at the watch for what it offers in comparison to the market, and one without bias will see this is a very good watch. Congrats CW, very interested to see what you do in the future.

@markymark3572 3 месяца назад

It's an exercise in CW showing what they can do. They are showing off for their 20th anniversary, & why shouldn't they? They offer so much as a brand😎

@DragosDreamer1989 3 месяца назад

I believe this is Christopher Ward just flexing their manufacturing skills. I doubt they expect mind bending sales for this watch. Just as the Bel Canto was an artistic marvel, this is more of a technological feat than anything else.

@untoweechja2238 3 месяца назад

As you point out, a big disadvantage of a skeleton is the inherent difficulty of reading the time at a glance, hence their general lack of appeal for me. That being said, if I were to buy a skeleton, this would be a solid contender.

@WparuSlowach 3 месяца назад

When Frederique Constant Highlife watch on your channel. The best integrated watch - value for money. 👌🏻

@sylvainster30 3 месяца назад

I got my very first skeletonized Aragon watch a few months ago and I must say it looks and works really well! Sapphire glass and very comfortable bracelet! Have you ever tried/ review Aragon watches? ✌🏼😎👍🏼

@MrShoryuken1 3 месяца назад

That is one of the first skeleton watches I've seen that doesn't look like a dog's dinner. Two thumbs up!

@Robert-vw3od 3 месяца назад

Ideally, the Christopher Ward buyer might be willing to pay somewhere around 2.5k if they can do their own movement in a watch for that then they are onto a winner. Oris come to mind, they’ve had limited success with this idea but they are probably the best when it comes to going down this road.

@indaleciomendez8442 3 месяца назад

Intelligence is the ability to adapt to change.

@Laz_Arus 3 месяца назад

Came for the T-shirt, and stayed for the adjustable butterfly clasp. I'm sure it won't be long before the usual AliExpress brands pinch that design and bring out their own variants.

@johnsmith-gs4qf 3 месяца назад

Fascinating watch, but I paid less for my used car!🤑

@orangeyellow-me1pz 3 месяца назад

Eh, my used car cost too much but that's Florida for you. Disgusting state.

@alexmacchalatte 3 месяца назад

Yeah, but does your car do as much as a watch? 🙃

@ajmarion 3 месяца назад

I think it’s cool - I’m not going to buy one, but I appreciate the engineering behind it. 5 day power reserve for under $5k is impressive, and I think it’s a good value proposition if you like skeletons

@BR81-iv6lt 3 месяца назад

No it is ugly and garish

@ajmarion 3 месяца назад

@@BR81-iv6ltokay big guy 😂

@BR81-iv6lt 3 месяца назад

@@ajmarion oke small guy🤨

@saphna2095 3 месяца назад

Now the price isn't attractive, but when it comes down in the used market, and we compare again to used Propilots and Defies, it'll be a better proposition, I guess. But I can't get over how it hugs, or rather doesn't hug the wrist and floats atop...looks a bit awkward

@sledge6693 3 месяца назад

I was waiting for this release & hoping it would be slightly above their other 12s (As they already have titanium versions for 2,650AUD). But for it to cost 2.5x more to skeletonise just seems ridiculous. I love their watches. But at 6.5k you're well into luxury brand territory or should even get their Bel Canto instead which costs less & looks better imo.

@deanwoods9294 3 месяца назад

I think the team at Christopher Ward must have cried when they saw that new Zelos release 😂 ...

@marcheezy. 3 месяца назад

Reminds me of the Rolex Texano. I like the lume disk and micro adjustments. Would prefer it smaller (~38mm). Wouldn't mind a reduction in PR to 60hrs if it was cheaper and thinner as well.

@CorvusHyperion 3 месяца назад

It remains to be seen if CW can actually make these (and other models). I waited a year for a Snow Leopard (same movement) before giving up.

@shadmanlabibbasunia27 3 месяца назад

That tshirt made me think I had dyslexia, I got my alevels in a months time and the panic attack I got was too much. Cool watch tho.

@Tangylives 3 месяца назад

Finally a less ridiculous size box. Probably won't be buying this particular CW though, nice as it is.

@bobmclennan1727 3 месяца назад

It's out of my price range, and skeleton dials aren't my style, but holy cow look at that micro-adjust on the bracelet. Outstanding innovation. I hope it trickles down to their other models.

@ph8077 3 месяца назад

If only they'd used G5 Titanium on the case! 😁 Agree about the packaging - the standard CW box is great for £1k watches from an independent brand but looks shockingly cheap & unimaginative for this flagship timepiece.

@Jpjc474 3 месяца назад

I absolutely love this. Great review as well.

@brianmurphy8154 3 месяца назад

I really love this brand and this watch. But that price…yikes. I’m going with Tudor.

@ajcallaway123 3 месяца назад

👏 so impressed with CW. Love the development and innovation. Wish I could afford it. Love the skeleton look, but yeah legibility, always wonder if hands should be a stark colour (all blue, all white, all red etc) but I'm no designer.