Chris Bishop announces plan to 'flood' country with new homes | 4 July 2024 | RNZ 

Yes ,PNCC Would be a great place to start looking, a lot of cash backhanders going on there

@@user-vv6gj8fq7n That sounds like a great idea. What corruption are you talking about so we can all get a better understanding?

@@CryptoRayGun ok?! Ask the council, What styles manual do they use to construct their 'official' documentation? (It ain't the Oxford English Manual Of Styles). Goodluck getting an official answer to the question! I collect knowledge/information (as a hobby), I'll give you all the ammunition you need, for free. ,👍

@ChrisTeManaakitanga And how exactly does that relate to corruption. Come on, mate, give the people some real tangible information. I would really appreciate knowing where the real corruption is

@@CryptoRayGun hi Hamish, okay...The Justinian Deception (By Romely Stewart), you'll find it on RU-vid. I won't hold back on any information, knowledge,but...ummm it could take awhile to get your head around it!,🤔 I don't intend to waste anyone's time,so I'm not commenting here, anymore ok! 👍Goodluck.

Agreed completely. Infrastructure in Wellington is practically falling apart thanks to decades of local council neglect, and back when I was a student in Dunedin they were much the same.

So true. All costs inc compliance, trades regulation etc were allowed to rise pro-rata to built price when house prices were booming to spread the financial benefit more evenly rather than just to the land developers. Hard to take that process in reverse as prices fall without admitting those costs were being forced up unnecessarily in the first place.

They are buy bring more competition too the market.

NZ is a country of vested interest if you Don,t challenge the building supplies vested interests nothing changes.

Specially when other countries can buy NZ building timber far cheaper than we can buy it here at home, National is starting to sound like Labour full of shite

@@paton57 they are all full of it, it is part of being in politics. They just lie all the time, they present a spectacle, that is it.

You can't win now, green is saying farms are bad and cause climate change

Sorry thought you also said flood

They'll import builders, and they will live in the new homes. We had 15,000 new migrants come to Christchurch in the last year, yet built only a record 2500 new homes!!?? These homes dont support young kiwis wanting to start families. They support the migrant workers and that they are wanting to attract. Then they go to Aussie once they get a passport. And the next lot move in.

John key you got a look at who holds the pies he has his hands in

​@@AHD2105 Very true

Its just hot air to appease the middle ground (AKA the idiots that got them elected)they know its not realistic or if it does happen it will be at a glacial pace they are happy with our high demand low supply market it means more $$$$$ for them and their wealthy buddy's speculating in it.

Its just hot air to appease the middle ground they know its not realistic and they don't really care they are happy with our high demand low supply market.

Vertical Slums? Don't generalise because you probably haven't seen enough of what you call urban slums, if you did, you wouldn't sound so ignorant. Social problems? Care to explain? Of course high density residential areas do have social issues but so do single family housing. Window's, light and open space are all achievable with Urban intensification, under modern design standards, again don't generalise.

@titiwhai The people who take the business risks to help move the country forward are the ones who needed the labour in construction, farming, manufacturing, etc. The other demand to drive immigration was the shortage of people to drive buses and trucks. Immigration was driven by need not just immigration for the sake of imagination.

@@CryptoRayGun What's good for the firm isn't necessarily what's good for the economy.

Yip he/she? Is lying through his teeth!

They did this in the UK,look how that’s turning out!🙄

infrastructure is collapsing in Nelson too. What the heck is going on , what is the end game for these guys. Communism?

Hong Kong is literally 3x times more dense than Auckland, and yes, having people in a warm, small apartment is far-far better than having homeless people because they can't afford the rent on the larger apartment, You're not creating bigger housing for everyone, you're just creating shortages of affordable housing with artificial size limits. You're also cherry picking the worst example, Japan and Singapore have high population densities and far better housing.

​@@woobilicious.How about bringing back middle class and most could then afford a home, the gap is getting bigger between the rich and the poor, 😢

@@woobilicious. We know that unscrupulous developers exist. If there are limited regulations regarding size and balconies in high rise apartments then we will get some taking advantage of that to increase profits. There are many stories of people who went back to living in their cars when the transitional housing they were given was not healthy or safe. The private sector is not good at providing social housing. The UK has a similar dire housing situation to us and when they sold off their 3 bedroom council houses, many private owners converted them into tiny single bedroom flats to increase their profits. Many people have been forced to rent them because they have no other option. I think setting minimum standards are very important and new housing should be much better than a car. Also our housing shortage isn't actually a dire shortage of actual houses. If all the Airbnbs were made available to rent again we may not have a problem. There are 25,000 households on the housing waiting list and over 30,000 Airbnbs in NZ. A number of European countries are putting caps on using homes for tourist accommodation where there are shortages.

@@barbaraknowles2713 There are far more subsidies and tax cuts for buying properties for investment portfolios than supports for first home buyers it seems.

That is so well written 🙏

Just use Septic tanks, compost toilet

You ignored the rest of his speech.

He explicitly addresses this - saying that new developments will only be allowed "on the condition that infrastructure costs for new development are covered".

Has been built for the riches in the first place, NZ is not a country where normal people strive, they're destined to be slaves to the ruling class.

if you go back to sir rodger douglass , that has always been the plan

Too late.

Yep, around 20% of our children living in unhealthy homes and whose families are food deprived. There won't be supermarkets and cafes in cheap housing areas, just lots of fast food and liqueur outlets as exists now.

help the homeless? their family can step up.

@davidkennedy8871 Yes, I agree. I was raised in South Auckland, Mangere, in a home with many issues, but little attention. Life's different living on the shore now in brownsbay. Yet a box of beer is cheaper than 2 loaves of bread and 2 bottles of milk.. I don't drink nor smoke, yet I feel there's hard times ahead for many in all areas of nz

@@davidkennedy8871 no one is food deprived from what i have seen. We could all lose some weight. Some parents in particular need to take responsibility and plan raising kids.

@@Edgycoo As many do, hence the massive overcrowding problem. 1 home for 2 to 3 families isn't uncommon.

Indians will still be there no matter what

Urban intensification isn't bad, it's much more economical than urban sprawling (building outwards) because you achieve the benefits of scale, more efficient transport system, higher productivity and you give people more choice, because not everyone wants to live in a house, different stages of our lives and different circumstances means we want different things, you'd be surprised by how many people don't want the quarter acre dream, many like living in the city close to work and activities, where you don't need to drive to live your life which is way cheaper. It's quite shocking how yo have a very single view of high density urban living, I'm not sure if you are aware of modern design standards for urban intensification, Australian urban design is pretty good, you can look at that, Europe has some of the best planning cities in the world, they often design their cities around apartments with walking and cycling accompanied by incredible public transport. The way you describe it is only one design standard, an outdated one in fact, designing cities has changed alot over the years, high rises and apartments are usually now placed next to large parks or have greenery designed atop them or within. Housing in NZ has always been overpriced, it wasn't just Labour, even under National we weren't keeping up with population growth, for decades housing in NZ was becoming grossly expensive. Speaking of funding infrastructure, it's actually more expensive to fund infrastructure for houses than it is for apartments or complexes. When building houses you need to build more roads, more recreational facilities, more health, education, electrical, plumbing and water infrastructure. And because there is less people living in houses that are far spread apart, the rates and taxes are higher per household, it also encourages more people to drive because public transport is less viable in low density zones, which increases congestion that leads to increased infrastructure maintenance and lost productivity, it also increases expenses for people because car ownership is incredibly expensive, so you will be paying more, while losing economics of scale, efficiency and productivity. When building apartments or high density complexes, you only need to repurpose all ready built infrastructure which is often cheaper and more efficient than building brand new assets. And because there's more people living in a single area, the cost is distributed more, which makes rates and taxes cheaper. And with mixed use developments you also gain efficiency and productivity because by having more people living under the same roof and closer to work, retail, commercial activities, recreation etc, it allows people to commute much more easily, it lessens the need of a car especially since public transport is very viable in high density area's which leads to less congestion, it makes the economy more efficient and since people live closer to where they need to go and they have options to get around it increases productivity and it makes maintaining infrastructure and building more infrastructure much more cost effective, it also increases tax intake within a single area because you have more people living in one place, with less infrastructure needed to maintain and that saves costs for people in the long-run. There will less of a need to provide provisions for parking for high density developments because they are often situated close to public transport or transit corridors. It's perplexing how you think only immigrants will be the one's living in apartments, that is completely incorrect. As I explained, not everyone wishes to live in a house, people often like living close to amenities and work, close to cafe's and shops, it's easier to commute and cheaper overall. Why would you build new cities? That is very expensive, wasteful, time consuming and will not solve any of the issues needed to be solved as I explained above. So Urban intensification is exactly what NZ is in need of atm, because our cities have been rated one of the most congested in the entire region, NZ now has the highest rates of car ownership in the world even more so than the US, and our housing is ridiculously expensive, and one of the reasons behind that is our obsession with sprawling our cities. Which has not helped.

@@rp7784 you make some points not all of which I agree with especially around cycleways which are simply not used, the whole build it and they will come theory hasn't worked. Go to any suburb where intensification has happened and you will see more cars on the streets so that they have become one way roads due to no requirement for garaging or parking, many buildings now break the fire code because they are so close together that hoses etc can't get around buildings should one of them catch on fire, many of these new projects just tap into old infrastructure like water and sewage so where 1 house used to be you now have 8 using the same services, many experts said this was a real issue when we had the cyclone as you have 90% of land in some places with imperbiable surfaces like stone and concrete so water can't soak away it just overwhelms land, you infer, that intensification is a good thing and people live in thriving communities yet Queen st is dead and unsafe but has a huge amount of intensification and thousands of apartments so where's the cafes,shops etc there? And as for building new cities go to Drury South,, it will be when completed , a new town as big as Matamata, the houses, while not my cup of tea, are a mix of new terrracing and stand alone properties, it has all it's amenities and services from new so no overwhelming infrastructure that's already there and you can design your public transport around it rather than shoehorniing thousands of people into a space that can't cope with them. Same goes for conmara and clevedon meadows check them out online. Tuakau and Clark's beach have new subdivisions that could be used and developed into big cities you only need a rail link, and the idea that everyone works in downtown Auckland is nonsense. Public transport is dire in Auckland, Paris, London , Hong Kong which are places Bishop says he wants us to be like all have wonderful public transport services, we don't. And finally it's never good practice to remove nearly all regulations and allow anything to be built without considering the consequences. I don't know your situation but if you had s nice 1/4 acre home with a garden and lawn would you really be happy with 2 six storey apartment blocks going up either side of you? with no minimum size requirement that could mean 20 apartments or more either side of your property. Can you imagine the noise? The cars? Social dysfunction? How many might be bought by kianga ora ? Most people who don't like this sort of thing like myself are nimbys, by equally most people who support it are all good with it until the reality hits home and apartment blocks go up next door. I moved out of Auckland 5 years ago to the country and haven't looked back. No neighbours, nice and quiet and horses and sheep don't play music at 3am or do drive by shootings or break into cars. As a failsafe I also have a home on the sunshine coast and we winter over there, many of the same issues in Australia as here however there economy is much greater than ours and the public transport solves many of the issues we have and will continue to have in the future. Good debate.

Ok just thought about this (you always come up with the good stuff after you have already posted) many of you say tearing up the rulebook is a good thing re housing. So a few examples for you all to think about. Health and safety rules for schools and school trips are onerous and delay kids going out and enjoying education. So no rams forms needed for trips anymore just go and learn. Pilots for Air NZ don't have to be trained in NZ it's slowing down the airline offering more flights and keeping fares high, let in anyone with a pilots licence and set them on their way. Your cancer surgeon or gp are from New Guinea. As long as they have a medical degree they can come here and just start practicing medicine, sorts out the shortage no Need to train in NZ. The food standards and A to E ratings for cafes, bakeries and restaurants prevent people from opening these places and employing people. So we get rid of the red tape and don't check anymore......so how many of you who think no rules around housing would get on that plane, eat at that restaurant, send your kids on that trip, visit that gp? Have that surgery? ....i suggest that none of you would do any of these things. If you wouldn't buy a pie from a bakery because you don't know what standards of cleanliness have been adhered to how can you say a 6 storey apartment block will have no effect and you would be happy with it happening everywhere?

also YOU will have to pay for making the infrastructure etc to be built so that developers will make a profit! YOUR rates will pay for all of this

Good, because Kainga Ora was doing what was done to LA "harmonisation" policies of the 1970's which spread gangs from selected areas of the city to a city-wide sprawl. It meant the gangs could not be contained like they were under the gang injunctions, and most likely a contributing factor to the fatal event of a NZ woman in LA yesterday. Those two men in the photos have gang tattoos (Inglewood family Crips, if you are curious) and were simply "working" when they robbed those two poor and unfortunate strong contributors to our society. The difference is, at least one of them will likely get the death penalty. In NZ, they would be off to prison for 4-6 years, then off to a nice shiny new Kainga Ora Home subrented to the department of corrections on release. They released some of those prison guys that just needed a change to an apartment 2 doors down from where I rented in central Auckland before COVID, I complained about their drug dealing and 4 days per week partying to the Police and building management and they did nothing. 3 months later, a lady went flying off the balcony and is with us no more. Needless to say, I terminated the lease. I no longer live in Auckland. Harmonisation, the Kianga Ora Policy, does not work. It destroys productive communities.

@@asiatravel2010 agree , have you asked why the government which is what the ora is , is following the plan of another country

Yep. You can bet Key & Son builders will be a department of Blackrock, the a holes

Of course values will drop if supply exceeds demand. Basic principles of Economics.

Your house value will only go down temporarily , and then bounce back, it only hurts if you brought on a high market , and have to sell in a low market , other wise just hang in there .

Great attitude Baz!

YOU will have to pay for making the infrastructure etc to be built so that developers will make a profit! YOUR rates will pay for all of this

if house prices drop and debt is wiped out , that debt will also take money from the system . we live in a debt based system , money is debt . no debt no money , that is why we have a tax system that rewards us for taking on debt . we have to change the system

what ever it is it will be more than labours provided in the last 6 years....baaaaaaaaa

NZ HAS NO money. Grant Robertson “pissed it all against the wall.”

@@neillewis785 And you know damned well why that was, and don't pretend otherwise.

@@neillewis785baaaaa meaning you have the brain of a sheep? Going by your comment …. Then most likely “less than”.

YOU will have to pay for making the infrastructure etc to be built so that developers will make a profit! YOUR rates will pay for all of this

you are not wrong , i wish more people could see as clear as you

How could it be more profitable for developers to restrict supply? An individual developers marginal impact on price is low, and they take a huge hit by not selling early, as they have to cover construction loans. What you say would be true in a monopoly, but is that what we have? What is the supporting research?

agree , but it is not just this government , every government winston has been part of has failed . including with sir bob jones help , he took down sir rob muldoon , so they could bring sir roger douglas to power

The cafes will be in the buildings. Duh. Safety as well as convenience will stimulate business and ease transport.

With more people owning homes, rates can remain steady. The councils have to raise rates as less people own homes. It may seem counterintuitive but home owners pays for growth and it is returned to home owners as their property gain value.

it is a lot of extra work on Councils who inevitably use consultants, so yeah

​@chrissolutions it's the opposite. As house prices raise then rates raise. As government have already used kiwis homes as collateral on loans.

YOU will have to pay for making the infrastructure etc to be built so that developers will make a profit! YOUR rates will pay for all of this. In one of his first comments he say that. Also, all the extra workload this puts on councils will all fall on EXISTING RATEPAYERS!!!!

@@chrissolutions the return you talk about is the devauling our our dollar , you might not of noticed , our dollar buys a lot less

Yep to lock up these economic vandals

We've tried that in Wellington. The city's now run by activist morons.

john key?????? your'e forgetting Ardern and her promise of hundreds of thousands of houses in her first term...which was never done.??????another labour party troll with a bad memory and a hate for national baaaaaaaaaaaa

Demand and Supply principal. JK sought to keep housing prices high - so supply was cut and demand grew as the country increased in population. Simple! It has now come to bite these fake leaders like JK in the ass. (But of course JK has run away just like that fool Grant Robertson)

Ha, you mean Labour fixed the problem 🤦🏻 Don’t forget to thank Jacinda for record rent prices while your blowing that horn of yours

​@nedread6700 it was a tag team effort. Multiple land owners have a large incentive to push prices up.

@@hamish1309 Be kind! 🤣

Smaller lower cost housing by definition will create that,

Totally agree, building future ghettos

And why you think council planners care?

Is homelessness better?

@@nzvinyasa425 it's the planners job to care and it is most definitely better than being homeless, tent under a bridge or nice new flat, for me the flat sounds better.......sound proofing and good design can make all the difference as to how each small space effects the other.

This is quite funny you’re not allowed to have battery hens you’re not allowed to have sour crates for pigs but you could have teeny buildings for humans

They don't want to talk about that Billion dollar stuff up.

They are thinking about it. Something the last Government didn't do.

They're trying to let that one silently slip into next month's stuff ups as to many ppl were looking into the facts & costs... The two Hyundai Mipo Dockyard Ferries would of been finished Oct 2025 & June 2026 & their contract was locked...(we lost out breaking contract) the price blow out was the Terminals infrastructure etc but thats going to need to be done whatever or whoever's in charge because what's the other thing Wellington & Picton have in common apart from the inter islander... they're both on same fault line....

It's always been like this , but the value always goes up

Anyone who bought their first ho.e two years ago is a bloody idiot who probably got advice listening to Mike Hosking.

theres loads of unused land bro dont worry

Yet prices continue to go up.

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Consents need to be opened up to allow for private competition.

Yeah, one of the issues Act campaigned on, getting the red tape down giving council the GST component to incentivise them to do it faster and more efficiently. Let's see if it happens.

@@awakenotwoke1973 we tryed that , we got leaky homes . lets take the invester out and let the builder and homer owner build a house

Ha ha the same people who ripped the tax payer off in the Christchurch rebuild you have to be joking

Bode can build even faster, new innovative foundations and structure. But I'm sure the councils cant cope with this.

Fk Fletchers.

Ugh, nooooo. These policies have been in use overseas for decades, they aren't that big of a deal.

Well maybe you should have invested your money elsewhere. This country's productivity problem stems from people investing in homes instead of business. Homes should be for living in, not commodities.

Kiwisaver? Been around for quite a few years now.

Property shouldn't be looked at as a "safe investment" when its a basic necessity for human beings to live.

@WhatAboutKenny Absolutely. It will be painful for some but the change needs to be made.

@tommytato3988 Yep, bought my first and forever home using my Kiwisaver. Now I own a home I'm not living in that fear of yet again having to find somewhere to rent because the landlord is selling. Without all that stress I can be a better worker and contribute more towards my job and be more productive.

if you want to live in europe , move there , why europe great and we are not is distance and with china collasping in debt , most stuff we buy is going tov be traviling around the world at great cost

Where then

no , this is all planned

so you remember back to when things worked , with out government help on every corner

They don't. National put them there in the first place.

Why do you guys write like chat bots designed to complain about anything.

@@TheDoitza That's rather hypocritical, that can describe your post.

@@louiethered479 I’m not complaining though. I’m simply making an observation. Both your comments are whinging and stating something as a fact when it’s just an opinion.

@@TheDoitza Again you are being a hypocrite. Your posts are whingy complaints.

If the sustainability of a business is solely reliant on a few car parks for vehicles that on average carry 1 to 2 occupants then it's the business owner at fault for having a business model that isn't efficient. Depending on where you are, cycle lanes can bring in high foot traffic, especially in area's with high density and close to public transport, and of course if the cycleway itself is connected to feeder route's. It's also worth noting that many people who commute to shops and commercial destinations didn't actually do so by driving, business owners often overestimate the number of customers that drive. Public transport, walking and cycling often deliver higher levels of foot traffic than cars do.

And turn the giant footpaths back into parking. There were more people on the footpaths before the parking was taken away. Now they are just gang territory.

@@rp7784 , Bollocks - we have just seen exactly the opposite of what you are saying here in Tauranga. Cycle ways added to our main city arterial route and parking eliminated. Those business that survived the lengthy construction phase , now see virtually no use of the cycle way , no parking , and no foot traffic at all. Absolute lala land thinking sufficient bike riders will replace the previous huge car based clientele.

@@waynewright5504 Ah, referencing back to my comments on what makes a cycleway successful. that cycleway is an example of poor planning and a classic example of how Kiwi's are terrible at planning transport. There are no feeder routes, access points for a number of people to use it, also there is no high density residential developments along the route, there is actually very little of any residential zone's along the route, not enough to sustain it. It would have been better to have the area developed, and to develop the cycleway network outside the Tauranga centre and then work your way in instead of the other way around hence the low volume of people using it. It would be good for those living in the centre of Tauranga but that number is relatively small. Don't blame the cycleway, blame the planner.

@@rp7784 , so give me one example where business has been helped by the enforced installation of a cycle way , where it has been done at the expense of parking. The " dream " of the lefty tree huggers that this is some sort panacea for the planet , in my view its just an unrealistic, narrow idealism that takes no account of actual commercial reality.

ever heard of the term , let sleeping dogs sleep

Inferiorstructure Inferiorstructure Inferiorstructure...........

We have our own infrastructure , water tanks about 60 000 litres , plus Septic ,

@@nzbrotrev9028 me too but still pay rates

tax has never worked ever , that is why we are in this mess , the people who make the most , have tax advantage of over other people the only tax that could work is a 1% trans action tax , with no tax deductions , no tax advantage or laws changed for any single group of people

Who? BlackRock and BlackStone are already here, invested 2 billion, who do you think the govt puppets work for?