@@bankaihampter2802Why do people do the same thing to EDP445? My guess is people just have a morbid curiosity with people who do evil acts while acting like they do.
Cheating on and leaving your wife for a younger woman only to be cursed with a horrific legacy brought about by your blasphemous lovechild is such a modern example of a Greek Tragedy
@@trumpflavourednugget9325 Some, not all. A greek tragedy simply involves a person held in high regard failing through the story (through either personal choices, circumstance or otherwise).
as an art student, it's genuinely impressive how he hasn't improved absolutely nothing over the years, it takes a lot of effort to keep drawing that bad for that long
@@Nathan-rb3qp the guy who made homestuck, he's kind of vaguely a lolcow now and his artstyle basically completely disintegrated from drawing 8000s pages of that comic
I hate all sides of the Chris Chan situation. I hate Chris Chan, I hate the people who poke at Chris Chan, I REALLY hate the people who feel they have the right to go walk up to that house when they know he’s in jail and poke at his mother who is in a questionable mental state, and I hate the system that can grow a Chris Chan and then not do anything about him until literal mom-boinking takes place. I genuinely don’t know why I watch these catch-up type videos but I do, every time. It’s like watching a car wreck
Let`s be friends then. Lol Cereal now, I totally agree. But I would add that the "system" in question really didn`t do anything at all, even after "literal mom boinking took place" as you put it so fittingly. They took him in for a little while, (which was long overdue anyway btw.) woohoo, and then they just let him roam free again without an entry in the SA registry, without a trial, or any kind of punishment AT ALL, allowing this cretin to now claim everything from him being innocent, over it all being the trolls fault right up to him being freaking jesus who only went to jail for our sins FFS! Oh, and thereby also allowing him to mingle with minors again while he keeps grifting children and idiots alike like nothing ever happened while he doubles and tripples down on everything that made him a disgusting waste of space and oxygen in the first place, like spreading his wacko delusions to ppl of all ages. The last part is esp disturbing, since you never know who might pick up on that crap. I am talking mentally ill people/children who might not know better.
Chris Chan is a lesson to not coddle your children, don't abuse your children, and get them the help they need before it's too late. Also don't let your kids use the internet lol
Kids should have some access to the internet since its something we use everyday and they need to learn how to use it, but it should obviously be monitored
@@user-zm7zl9lc6j I agree. Moderation is key and giving them access at an appropriate age. I'd only want my child to have a cell phone as an emergency contact.
He’s more of a lesson as to why old women shouldn’t have children. “Barb” was in her 50s when she had him. By that point most women’s eggs are rotten and have a high likelyhood to produce children with mental and physical defects.
Imo the issue is chrischan is very very autistic. He is regarded… he should never have been allowed to be posting on the internet once he started to pull trolls and have trouble in life because of his unique character. Hes been manipulated and fucked with to insane degrees. After he got arrested he should be banned from posting anything on the internet or interacting with anyone on the internet. The justice system imo failed chris really bad if hes back on youtube after all the horrible things that happen. Guys like him, daniel larson and cyraxx should not be on the internet. They dont have the mental capability to be active online.
I was released from my 5th admission into the psychiatric unit this past November and all of the other patients in there with me were more sane than this man.
Yeah, I've been in my local hospital's MHU a few times in adulthood, just for depression and severe anxiety. And that seems like how it was for most everyone else I ever met in there. There were a few really crazy people (like schizophrenics), but for the most part, the average patient in the MHU were just regular people who are going through some seriously difficult time in life and had a sort of breakdown. Struggling with depression or suicidal thoughts, so they got admitted for a week or two.
Its not his sanity or mania. As crazy as it sounds. I believe he like most people with Autism are EXTREMELY sane, and have all The marbles upstairs. Their brains just are soo hard wired to think a certain way, or not comprehend things. So just the most bare basic of things will appear as normal to them and be mind boggling to everyone else. In this and the 3 hour documentary. I didnt see a man with no mental capacity to know. I saw the opposite. I saw a trully UNHINGED man, who stood by every single word he ever spoke, because he trully just diesnt understand how crazy it all sounds
@@DeadPixel1105i was in a mhu for a bit over a week in march. met like 3 people with schizophrenia there...none of them had or have experienced delusions as wild and out of control as chris's. its actually insane that he isn't being taken as a serious issue
@@michellechair Good point! And unrelated to Chris, but I hope you're doing and feeling better now. Keep your head up and try to stay positive. Keep yourself busy and your mind occupied. It helps.
Oh hell no! Imagine if his tiny brain had actually come up with that. He would have been so smug about it and used it as pure evidence that he is, in fact, our true and honest Messiah.
No, Truman had NO IDEA his entire life was being watched almost 24/7 any and all private information of his was forcefully published, unbeknownst to him. 90% of the things we know about Chris have been given to us BY WILL. Sure messages/videos to "sweethearts" are private, but I mean come the fuck on. Chris wants his life to be the Truman show, the only reason that Chris grew as a lolcow is because HE HIMSELF posted on the internet, wanting to share his life and comic.
He REALLY needs to just avoid the internet altogether. Like move into a cabin in the middle of nowhere and have people deliver him food on a weekly basis. He was convinced to screw his mother with dementia, doesn't get much lower than that.
I’m glad I got the “obsessed with warhammer/Star Wars/lord of the rings/transformers/anime” autism, not the “terminally online sociopathic narcissist” autism.
Can you imagine being called to jury duty, only to be selected for Chris' case and having to tell the judge that you already know about Chris and can't be on the jury?
Honestly, we all should’ve guessed something was wrong when Chris said the “sex partner” had to remain a secret. When has Chris ever kept anything a secret lol
@@N99622still fucked up that it was their mother who has dementia, someone who wasnt fit to give consent. Also it was their BIOLOGICAL mother, which is fucked regardless if it was truly consenual or not.
@@azmainshafiq1578idk if they said it wasn’t messed up just that a smalll thin silver lining is that he didn’t hurt a kid and thus soil the entirety their life cuz of CSA. Both are wrong, and both are different 🤷♂️
Chris Chan is a two-fold lesson in how far people can fall and still not be at rock bottom, and how obsessive online trolls can be with the lives of the former.
i think one moral we could take from the chris chan story is be better, do better than his parents, do better than chris, and do better than the trolls
@@jskywalker58That's the easiest part: if you're not an autistic, degenerate, furry/zoophile. That has been dropped on his head then you're already miles ahead of him
I think a higher put him on earth so that, in these trying times of self-doubt and insecurity, we can turn to him and say "Well, at least I'm not that $%@#&% up."
@@andriesoliviier9529that's not entirely fair. His upbringing was fucked. He wasn't exactly set up for success. He's responsible for much of his shitty life, but don't forget who his parents were.
@@ridiculousrandy1401 No one said otherwise. He's still a fuck up either way, and no one wants to be like him. His parents are a cautionary tale in themselves too.
He doesn't just have a disability, his experiences with the trolls did so much damage to his psyche that he needs really specialised help. I think 10 years ago he might've had a chance to live normally in society with help. Now, after prison though? No way. The court should give him an identity change and cut off the internet's access to him entirely. Anything less is just irresponsible.
@@calamitysangfroid2407 Dude, his life was a wreck even 10 years ago. Say what you will about the trolls, they didn’t help the situation but it was still Chris who escalated the worse parts of his life without any help or outside influence. Even without the trolls help Chris is not a good person and not sound of mind. Not to mention his parents kept feeding the conspiracy theory that the world was out to get him, when in reality most of the negative experiences he had with trolls could have been shaken off with common sense. Also he had a history of being a consistent nuscense to the community and had endless run ins with the law. (not troll influenced) The court don’t care about his wellbeing because a crazy person with a past criminal record is not top priority and to them not worth dropping money on.(but having him in a straight jacket should be mandatory.)
@@whoknowswhocares885 sounds like your defending the lowlifes who continued to harass the lolcow that is chris chan. Chris chan needs to be kept in some form of facility that can keep him out of society at large while also getting him the treatment and help he needs, but at the end of the day saying that the trolls were irrelevant to his mental decline is absolute insanity. Those same trolls should be locked in the same place as chris chan, if not buried underneat the prison. This isnt to excuse the absolute depravity of chris' crimes, but to completely disregard the impact the trolls had on this outcome is pathetically stupid.
I’m 30 years old, and I remember laughing at Chrischan as a high schooler. Then I went to college, grew up, and forgot him. Then in 2021 the news came out and I was like “WTF he still is out there.” It’s just fucking tragic.
I am the same age as him.... One would think that after everything that has happened through the years,. that he would wise up and stop it. But nothing ever registers. As long has he can get away with being this way, he will do it. Chris is not a good person, to say the least. But he has something more going on than just autism as well.. He is mentally challenged. How do you explain someone that graduated high school and college and still thought that the way to save unborn children was to recycle your own semen via drinking it. And he made that video when he was what?.. 27 - 28 years old?.... Still living with his mommy and daddy in a cluttered room filled to the brim with video games and toys and plushies. There is no saving this guy. The only one that can help him now is himself and i dont see that happening. Kids will just take advantage out of him because of some clout and hes going to be like the weird old man down the road that everybody laughs at like a freak show.
Stop it get some help you need some too but he needs it more but you also need some if you're on the internet doing this bullying is not okay at all and I know that cuz I'm autistic I've been bullied for my life and it's not fun I'm not bullied that much cuz I'm in a specialized class I was when I was in school I was in a special class right away in school but the sad thing is they cannot find out I was autistic until I turned 11 but I was too late and mental hospital for 2 years but now everything's going pretty decent don't bully me on the internet please I just have no opinion that Chris ain't as bad as a person as you think I respect your opinion on him though you don't got to call me a monster for it it would be like saying I like Sonic 06 and then you say you don't but I don't like that game my favorite game is Terraria just wish I had a better gaming PC I get really good grades in school also I have a high GPA
@@NatetheNintendofan I understand what you’re saying, bullying is wrong, but at the current moment the facts are he raped his elderly mother nearly 10 times. Before, the bullying of Chris was wrong and outright cruel, but he has gone past the point of no return. There is no hope of being a “good person” once you do your elderly mother, at that point you are horrible and there is no going back.
@@protozoakid6219i am not gonna defend him, but this is clearly a psychological case of gaining dominanve over his mother, this guy doesn't deserve bullying he needs to be put into mental institution and get actual help or put out of misery, this ia beyond sad at this point
There's a parasite poses as prey for fish, but lodges itself in the its throat and eats any food the host eats until the host dies before moving on to a new host. The world is full of SCP-esque entities
There is no “allegedly,” he did it and admitted it to multiple people and only now is trying to deny it. He was only released from jail (after 2 years) because there wasn’t really a proper charge for the specific act he committed; remember he wasn’t acquitted, they just couldn’t properly charge him
my dad went to high school with Chris in Manchester Virginia, he told me about how him and his buddies would throw change at chris in the hallways and he would go screaming at the top of his lungs and running to pick up all the coins every time
Our justice system failed Barb. Horrendous. I can't imagine what sick monster could possibly do something like that to someone in her state. And then getting away with it? Absolutely insane.
There was a somewhat recent live stream where someone asked about what he did to Barb and he just had the look of absolute shame. Like even in the mental state he’s in he knows what he did was evil.
@@Occam31 it was dismissed and sealed. That’s a bigger statement of innocence from the courts than an acquittal. The court decided the case was so lacking in evidence that they not only didn’t want to hear it, but didn’t even want it on the record
I hate gaming franchise I learned from documentary channels I hate tv shows and movies I don't remember all these characters all of entertainment garbage stuff anymore I must be nice brained at college Chris Chan is not your nostalgia deviantart is under Chris Chan control for making inflation bodies out of characters Thanks for these documentaries to learn me to others how to hate the entertainment internet toxic garbage stuff
It truly boggles my mind how people are willing to give that creep any amount of money during his livestreams when he should be locked up in a padded room where he clearly belongs.
the worst part is that it's really not a surprise when you look at statistics.. I pretty much knew he would get away with it tbh it's hard enough to get a conviction for rape with physical evidence (and Barb wasn't* in a mental state to testify/make a statement herself, which is really the only way rape charges have a chance of sticking); the way they piddled around on updating the public on Barb's status told me that they had *nothing* to actually keep Chris on. unfortunately, as much as the video of him LITERALLY ADMITTING TO IT should be enough, it just isn't when it actually gets to a courtroom. it's abhorrent smh
How has Barb been left alone back in that house??? Seriously?? Idc if she’s an awful person (she is), she still shouldn’t be left to rot alone with dementia and unable to care for herself. That’s not what a civilized society does. We have to be better than that.
The only time I felt genuinely sorry for Chrischan, was during his "Autism manual" video. Describing how his mother would hug him when he didnt want to be touched, under the motto: "He will feel the love eventually."
I'm high functioning autist with a cluster B mother who tried the same thing, the difference is I'm independent and functional, and I was conscious enough to know it's wrong. She tried for 30 years to touch me, and I refused. It's genuinely uncomfortable to the point of being emotionally painful. I made her feel rejected, so she perceived me as an abuser, started saying all kinds of nasty lies to family about me cause how do you justify "My kid is mean with me because he don't want me to touch him" ? :D I had to sever the relationship with her, and my life feels... Normal now ? No one else minds that I don't like being touched or even being around other people. This isn't depression posting, more like hum.. Showing another side of what this attitude might lead to with an autistic person. I'm actually very happy nowadays. :D Respect people's boundaries friendos, even if they're your child. I loved my mother, and I don't anymore because she insists on breaking my boundaries even after I went no contact.
@@FlavorsomeMusic You're a grown person (I assume?) would be weird if people still touched you when you didnt want to. I think I'm on the spectrum myself. I have ADHD and I've never felt comfortable being social or even being around others. It drains me as if I had run 50 miles mentally. It took my mother years until she understood. Though, I also think its a coping mechanism for her. "Oh, he doesnt like to come visit or go out for dinner because hes likely autistic". Having something to blame it on often helps people accept it better. Though, it seems your mother took it as a slight and went the high school drama queen route of blaming you.
@@rasmusazu Yeah I am well into adulthood at this point, I started having these symptoms as a pre-teen. Social being draining is definitely how I would peg it, other symptoms include (at least for me) being unable to read social cues, always approaching situations like it's a problem of logic and numbers and the door to my appartment being like.. this uncrossable threshold, my home is a sanctuary to me, the only place where I really feel fully safe, and people crossing that threshold make me feel uncomfortable. I also build relationships more based on trust and shared interests than feelings ? I would say that I never felt my symptoms as a bad thing ? It's always external things that made me feel like it's bad ie: my mother, struggling to function in a work environment with other people, etc... You can also like.. become fairly well-liked by people and be part of a community without triggering these symptoms ? At this point, I manage a community of ~80 people online, and yeah, they perceive my communication style as harsh, but fair, and I am really good at resolving problems/moderation. Also, circling back to this appartment thing, I think people like this are very desirable to landlords, and I believe he identified it in me early, and picked me because of it. He definitely behaves with me like someone who knows what an autist is. He always communicates with me via texts, rarely does so and he only comes into my place if he really needs to. I hear all kinds of horror stories from the other tenants about party people, so yeah, you can be very desirable on a societal level. If you feel like you might be on the spectrum, then I suggest developing skills that you can exercise from home that you can potentially monetize, coding being a very, very obvious thing to recommend, and if you're more into art, electronic music and the like because of its logical/mathematical nature. ADHD is very commonly comorbid with high functioning autism for millenials and beyond. Ultimately though, I'm not a doctor!!!! If you have any doubts, go see one, don't listen to random strangers online too much. :D
Yeah, jail was a bad call for him. He should have got 10 years in a mental ward where he could have got the help he needed. A person like Chris Chan couldn't benefit from jail in the slightest. He needs INTENSE therapy and medication.
if Daniel Larson can freely roam the streets inflicting his almost-daily reign of terror on every establishment he visits, then Chris Chan becoming a "successful" streamer is no less implausible. Truly the ultimate timeline.
I actually first heard about him in 2009 when I discovered the Encyclopædia Dramatica, but never looked into him until Rose of Dawn made a video about him in 2019. I’ve been a Christorian since then.
Flutter is one of the most enigmatic people in the post-prison Saga. She has an uncanny ability to avoid clear photos of herself and can seemingly handle Chris. Whatever her game is, I am deeply impressed.
Reminder that Barb used to force Chris to cuddle with her even once he was an adult and that she threatened to unalive the first time he went to a convention overnight when he was in his 20s. She wanted him around and reliant on her forever, and the monkey paw curled its finger for her. Failures from top to bottom got a severely mentally ill person.
“Chris is managing to monetize his own insanity in real time, and there’s absolutely nothing that anyone can do about it” is such a great line, though it is hella sad.
He clearly won. He's a genuinely horrible person, a criminal, insane and has been harassed for decades, but he still won. I don't know how, but he draws pictures, play with clay, and game, and is winning. Just, ignore his chances, and win. Justice is fake. Mathematics are meaningless.
@@informitas0117when you put it that way he almost sounds kinda based...like against all odds he was still successful in many regards. Which furthers my proof that god is dead
I’m just grateful that Tom used male pronouns for Chris. Had to quit watching other RU-vidrs like TheGamerFromMars because he’s uses “she/her” for Chris. Totally inconsiderate of female victims of SA such as Chris’s own mom.
i cannot comprehend how many times homie prolly sat in front of various professionals and yet and still none of them had the ability to keep him in a facility.
The current trend in Western Civilization is to almost always opt for the least invasive outpatient intervention (often to the point of negligence) and they go so far as to redefine terms and disorders in their diagnostic manuals/guidelines (e.g. APA DSM V) to remove disorders from clinical definitions to leave more and more psychological disorders off the table of treatment altogether...
The end of the chris chan story will be when the dimensional merge finally happens. Then we get to see what happens when the chris from the dimension where rolling and trolling was cannon confronts our chris.
Whenever I hear about Chris Chan, it makes me wonder what would've happened if Barbara was the one who died first and how life would've been if Chris was with Bob nowadays.
what i wonder is how chris would have turned out if his parents did a better job raising him, taking him to special schools and doctors that could handle kids with his autism and keeping him off the internet.
@@jskywalker58we don't hear about those kids we only hear about the ones like Chris is Chris did have all that help we wouldn't even know what his life would be cuz we wouldn't have ever heard about him
I did a TRIPLE TAKE when I saw this... I couldn't believe there was an update video!!!! Your last video on this guy served as my introduction to him... and LAWWWWDDD, what a ride that was. Now you're telling me there's an update video on his inevitably ill-fated come-back attempt? It's like the universe knew I needed to laugh today. Let me tell you - I cleared my schedule for the next hour, ran to the kitchen to make some popcorn, and got into my comfy pants - I AM READY!!!!!!
Chris Chan should be receiving care in a professional institution... It should really scare anyone living in The US, to know that you can become *this* mentally ill, and still receive absolutely zero help. You'll be left to your own devices, until you do something that will give the authorities reason to put you in prison... Do people really think prison is the right place for someone like Chris Chan, or should he be put somewhere he can receive the help he needs, to not be a danger to himself and others?
While I do agree with you mostly, Chris Chan is far too gone. I feel there's no way to help him be normal . There is no way to help him become a functional member in society . I'm not trying to be an asshole, but the guy is very mentally unwell and he is a danger to others . I feel he needs to be institutionalized in a hospital and live the rest of his life there . For the sake of everyone. Sorry if this comes off very harsh. But the guy already hurt his mother. I don't want him hurting any more people.
@@amp4105 Empathy here serves no purpose though. Chris Chan is a person who just doesn't fit in society. He needs to be locked away, there's no help you can give him.
I'm an Oldbag who's been following Chris since 2008. There hasn't been a single moment in all that time where I haven't physically cringed when he's brought up. Honestly impressive
Im shaking in shock by the fact he is back, when he was arrested I taught, wanted it to finally be over, he may finally get an actual chance to improve, to leave the internet....
Heres the thing the internet will never get. All their meddling and crap will 100% ruin a case. Its literally why EDP is hanging out at middle schools and not in prison.
@@JohnGalt916 why don't you understand extreme publicity can negatively influence a court case. no shit the law isnt based on internet idiot's opinions, thats not what he was saying
@@JesusChristDenton Isn’t it deemed a mistrial if the jury is presumed to have been exposed to biased information of the case outside of court? I feel like I remember that happening with Rittenhouse. I heard the judge ask the jury to not consume any news about the trial when they went home a time or two. Maybe I’m misremembering what he said made it a mistrial (I think I’m using the correct terminology) & ultimately ruled that he could not be made to stand trial again.
It’s really baffling that he isn’t permanently admitting to some mental hospital. He’s unfit to even be spoken to by normal people. In a recent “interview” you can clearly see that he isn’t lucid.
@@NakedOwl501 British kid : leaks videogame info gets thrown in asylum for life so he can never use internet again American kid: starts cult , grapes mom , claims to be God, is released and let online again in less than a year.... Yeah America is fucked
I've been drawing for years, and I can see improvement through time, but I still think I'm just getting to a point where I'm happy to share work for more than just getting critique, and it is genuinely fucking impressive how Chris just hasn't improved, I think it takes more effort to stay that bad at art than to improve whatsoever in 2 decades.
That's great dude. Keep at it. I'm also trying to get better at drawling. My problem is lack of consistency. I need to force myself to keep drawling everyday until I hopefully make improvement and progress. I'm wishing you luck on you're drawling journey . I hope you make it .
I noticed that as well. It shows something isn't developing there. In his psyche/brain. That part of the brain is impaired. It's stuck on a preK level.
@@foregroundeclipse8725Consistency can help but the most important thing is studying with a goal. I have improved a lot from just studying anatomy and doing studies from photo-references now and then.
He's literally developmentally stunted, at best he'll probably be mentally a troubled teenager(with the impulse control to match) for the rest of his life, but at some point he's going to decline and get worse.
yeah, been drawing for a few months and I've noticed the improvements. my theory is that eitheir there's some fuckery with the brain making progress physically impossible for chris or he never actually spends much time drawing nor does he do it evdryday.
The biggest thing to take away is, other than people brought to this person by the internet, no one has cared about this family for a long time. The time for outside family or friends to step in and help was probably back in the 90s. There is no further care or protection order for Barbra because someone has to pay for it and care enough to help getting these things rolling. There is no long term care for Chris because he is not "sick enough" for the systems we have in place which are not amazing anyway. Every angle of this story and history is one that showcases failure. Failure of parenting, personal responsibility, systems of government....just acres of failure. Chris-chan will never fail to make me feel very sad, grossed out, and slightly angry.
The thing is they only got on with one person in their family, I think barbs sister who died. All the children from Bob and barbs pervious marriages hated them.
The one liners in this video are unreal. This is probably one of the few times a video has made me audibly laugh. The "Unless covid has been making people zesty" in response to the demented claims of a vaccine for being gay predicting the pandemic was hilarious.
I feel like that moment when Chris got that donation where he was confronted with the fact he raped barb, what I believe is happening is it almost seems like it’s the first time it ever sunk in. The emotion almost seemed like straight horror to me. I wonder if that was the first time someone used the word rape to explain it to him. It seems like he’s realizing for the first time that yes, what he did was rape his mom. He looks genuinely horrified, like I’m certain he would be when he realized he is rapist. It’s like he’s finally realizing how horrifically dark and disturbed he truly is, like he’s terrified of what he’s done and what he’s capable of. That clip was very disturbing to me.
Recently (as in last Tuesday) Keffal’s decided to interview Chris Chan, unsurprisingly it was a disaster not to mention Keffal’s tried to claim Chris doing his mom was a fake made by trolls!
The Kiwifarms bit made me actually laugh out loud. Keffals and Chris are both deeply mentally ill strange individuals, but the humor they have provided is beyond compare tbh
Chris-chan is someone who just needs to...GO AWAY. I don't want him dead, I do think he should have been kept in jail...but right now, I just want him to disappear. This man/woman/whatever needs to vanish from the public eye, go into supervised care, remove all traces of himself from the internet. For both the world's sake...and for his.
You sound a lot like a false prophet that is wanting to deprive the world of the return of its savior, Mrs. Christine W. Chandler Sonichu, Goddess of the Nations of Cwcville, Comma, and the Commodore Consoles. Or the slightly shorter Jesus Christ Chan Sonichu - CPU blue heart.
@@jazzwilliams7040 A real transwoman doesn't transition to make it easier to hook up with other women like Chris did. Why do you think the Trans community disavow him?